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[jeanba]

The last picture is a R6 , the photo of G6 are very rare , I read data of the G6 his have a loadout of 100KG of bombs ( same at the G4) but his primaly duties is a recconaise escort and not have noticies for bomber mission , in all the photo not see a bombs rack maybe have a same  Sopwith strutter loadout disposition .

Gio.

P.S.: the bombs rack is a autors license not historically.

No G6 was ever affected to a bombing units.
I have never read an accou_nt of a G6 performaing a bombing mission.
The G6 were highly specialized with specific wirings either for photorecon or arty spotting, and therefore, adpating bomb racks and adding bombes in field would have proved to be fairly difficult, espcially for internal bomb disposition (the french strutters were produced as bombers or as photo recon but those were not exchangable).
I think that we can forget about bombs on G6 except for fun.

[jeanba]

The G4 mg armement was either no, one or two Mgs.
The "rear mg" could either be mounted so that the observer could fire rearward, or so that the pilot could fire foreward.
The G4 was even used as an escort fighter, with a creaw of 1, "rear mg" firing forward.

[jeanba]

The R serie did not carry bomb neither in operation.

[jeanba]

Pictures of the bomb system on the G4 :

[jeanba]

The generator on the wing of the caudron VI is also working using the java and naming convention of the TB-3:
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm42/Mission_bug/Album%202/Caudron%2011_zpsmau9ec3z.jpg

Sorry, are you sure for the position of the genrator?
All the picture I know, including factory plans, they are on the top of the front fuselage?

[Mission_bug]

Pete, very thoughtful but it never occured to me that this would be something unrelated. You're big part of the DBW-1916 development hence youre free to discuss anything you want here. Same goes for Stalker and Gio and the others.

The plane looks lovely btw.

Okay Istvan as long as you are happy for this discussion to appear here all is well.

Which strange behaviour ?

Besides doing the manouvers a small fighter would which looked odd for such a large aircraft the second aircraft in a flight tended to invert and stay that way.

P.S.: the bombs rack is a autors license not historically.

The images of what I took to be bomb racks were used to confirm that some kind of rack was actually used and therefore used to identify where the bombs would be placed on the mod i.e. underneath the main gondola and on some kind of structure as opposed to hung from the side or carried internally, it was not shown as a critique of the rack you made Gio.  One of the later photographs posted by Jeanba does seem to confirm your design anyway and different operators would most likely have used their own design.

No G6 was ever affected to a bombing units.
I have never read an accou_nt of a G6 performaing a bombing mission.
The G6 were highly specialized with specific wirings either for photorecon or arty spotting, and therefore, adpating bomb racks and adding bombes in field would have proved to be fairly difficult, espcially for internal bomb disposition (the french strutters were produced as bombers or as photo recon but those were not exchangable).
I think that we can forget about bombs on G6 except for fun.

Because there were very few images of the G-6 and none showing bombs it was assumed that it would carry a similar load to the G-4 if indeed it carried anything.

Anyway, thank you all very much for all the information you have provided and your comments, all are greatly appreciated.

Take care.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[jeanba]

Which strange behaviour ?

Besides doing the manouvers a small fighter would which looked odd for such a large aircraft the second aircraft in a flight tended to invert and stay that way.

Yes, I imagine !

Thnak you for the information
Just to clarify, in bomber formation, they are both using their defensive armement ?

[Mission_bug]

Thnak you for the information
Just to clarify, in bomber formation, they are both using their defensive armement ?

Hello Jeanba, in both cases the turret does work but and if I remember the forward firing gun of the G-4 did as a Fighter, however, the forward gun on the G-6 I cannot recall actually working when it was classed as Fighter but it might just not have got line of sight on the opponent before it was shot down.  As for the current Bomber I have not done much in the way of testing so I am not sure it the forward firing gun does work or not when the AI is operating the weapon.


What was observed is that both types need to be close to the ground to have any kind of bombing accuracy, say 5oo meters or less


I would need to reclassify again to confirm the above though.


Bye the way was the G-6 actually used only by the French Air Force or were there exports?


Take care.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[jeanba]

I haven't seen any record of exported Caudron G6 (maybe for some tests), but the Belgian used it as part of a Franco-Belgian squadron (unit C74), but I think that they flew under french colour.
I think I have seen the picture of a caudron G6/R4 or R11 under belgian colours, but I need to recheck

[Mission_bug]

Thank you very much for the info, greatly appreciated.

Both Caudrons now have the bomb rack as a separate add on so if the default option is used there is no rack visible.


Setting both aircraft to 'TypeFighter' and 'TypeSturmovik' to go with what all of you think are the primary roles continues to give the strange behaviour mentioned in that the lead aircraft seems to fly okay but the second flies at a angle which is worse if you mix the two aircraft types when the second in a pair inverts itself.

As for the machine guns, the G-4 does not like to fire the pilots weapon only the turret when facing the opposition but the G-6 behaves as you would expect.

I tried setting the G-4 guns differently having the forward firing as a turret and vice versa but it did not help, same as changing the guns to fixed or turret made no change it seems, maybe the odd layout of the G-4 machine guns is confusing to the java and it does not know which it should engage with so uses the turret weapon.

The weapons are okay if used by the player and the types fly fine if set as a bomber, so what to do, can you live with the strange behaviour and hope someone can enlighten us on what causes these issues?

Take care.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[vpmedia]

I've found this BBC series, pretty interesting...stereoscopic 3d cameras in ww1:

[max_thehitman]

That is interesting indeed.
A friend of mine, who is a dealer in old photographic cameras, has a few of those 3D-cameras
in his exposition at his house. Some very old cameras even had 4 lenses.
I guess for the extra 3-dimensional immersion fun in seeing photos, or for large landscape horizontal photos.

One little thing we are still missing in the DBW-1916 , as well as the normal WW2 game, is a model of a guy holding
a photo camera or a film camera.
That would be a cool model to place in your airfields. Taking photos of your airplanes