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[Flanker27]

This is just an observation, but iv found that many here seem to be totally against jet aircraft and modern aircraft combat in IL 1946, i know its still got a ways to go to make it a truly modern era flight sim,  but flying a mig against a F-105 or F-86 is a lot of fun. Im curious as to why most of you are so stuck on props and i dont mean any disrespect by this, just curiosity

[SAS~Ghost129er]

Cause you can't land on Fifi's with a Jet.

[NobleNerd]

Meanwhile, I witnessed an N1K1 floatplane successfully dogfight and shoot down a MiG-9 jet fighter...

I love this game's AI. 

[Ta183Huckebein]

Oh, the AI's a bloody riot.

It makes creating Co-op missions tough though, since I can't really predict how a mission will ultimately turn out no matter how much I test it on my own, until the whole group I intend to have fly it does.

[Flanker27]

im guessing that the AI is hard coded and isnt one of those things that can be tweaked for high speed BVR jet combat?

[enry711]

This is just an observation, but iv found that many here seem to be totally against jet aircraft and modern aircraft combat in IL 1946, i know its still got a ways to go to make it a truly modern era flight sim,  but flying a mig against a F-105 or F-86 is a lot of fun. Im curious as to why most of you are so stuck on props and i dont mean any disrespect by this, just curiosity

I play a lot of JTW in my free time, and i can guarantee you that the AI is almost unpredictable, especially in FMB.
However, this does not mean you can't have fun yourself. I noticed that MiG-21/23 and the F-100/104 or A-4 have a strong AI while many other planes like the F-4 or the A-6 have more problems.
If you fly a squad of F-4s vs MiGs you're probably going to "carry" your teammates, while if you play with the F-104 in particular, the AI goes rogue and starts spamming missiles, strafing targets and be very aggressive.
It's a bit hit or miss, especially in QMB, while if you pass much time in FMB like i do, you can create a more "controlled environment".
I'm making a lot of FMB quick missions in this period (for now private, maybe i'll release them in the future if i see interest) both in JTW and WAW, to always have the AI doing what i tell them to do.

[baronbutcher]

Im curious as to why most of you are so stuck on props and i dont mean any disrespect by this, just curiosity

1) Because props aren't boring,  you see the enemy and get up close  and not fire a missile miles away,  2) the game was originally designed for props especially WW2, 3) WW2 era and WW1 and in between wars saw much diversity of combat, the aircraft types and sub types was enormous, don't get me wrong I like jets especially Korean War, 1960's, 1970's etc. Sabre, Mig 15, F 105 Thunderchief, Mig 21, Swedish Viggen, F-15 Eagle, English Electric Lightning, etc. etc. but WW2 wins hands down for interest for me. The amount of Camo patterns (so ), nearly all the aircraft actually can be assessed and actually fought and the numbers involved varied from small engagements to enormous numbers in combat. The terrain over which battles were fought was diverse . 4) Modern jets are plain boring - and F-22, or F-35 or whatever compared to a F4 Phantom or F-15 Eagle:  the F4 and F-15  wins it for me for interest. Likewise I rather see a Spit or Me10, B-17, Lancaster, Fokker, Spad, MC 202, Zero, etc. etc. etc.  than some 'yawn' Raptor.   Kids like the modern jet toys but it is like comparing most of today's music to pre 2000's Rock it isn't just ain't as interesting!   

[SAS~Malone]

what baronbutcher just said.
modern aerial combat makes for a relatively boring 'video game' type fighting, as opposed to props, which force you to get up close and personal, and your ability to fly your plane to its strengths is much more essential.
i love jets too, don't get me wrong, but it makes sense that folk who prefer prop planes would be drawn to IL-2, as opposed to something like DCS/LockOn and other such jet sims.
 

[KingTiger503]

Last thing I pursued a MiG-15 with F-51, I shot him Down two weeks ago in FAC Season.

[SAS~Storebror]

I had the chance to witness what KT said, good job.

To second Eugene's statement, the game engine of IL-2 simply doesn't know how to handle guided missiles and it hardly knows how to handle jets.
Anything past the sound barrier is well beyond the game engine's limits.
The makeshift solution we've implemented to make AI fire missiles at all is just that: Makeshift. It's just there to make them launch missiles roughly in the direction of their enemies at all. Nothing more, nothing less. SAMs are even worse (that's probably because it's been done by less talented guys).
AI has absolutely no idea of how to handle Mach 2 jets, let alone an idea of what the difference between an F-104 and an F-14 is.


Mike

[Flanker27]

That explains why most of the missiles the AI fires miss then

[David Prosser]

Biggles books got me interested in flying, war, and history. As others have mentioned, this game is not really set up for jets due to game engine limitations. Many of the WWI and WWII planes are drenched in history. Multiple forests have been felled writing about their performance and feats. Not so for many jets.

I did do a Korean War campaign in 2011 when I was living there teaching English. It felt strange setting missions over Inchon. I could recognize the area where I used to live. Same for Daegu. I never released it. I might re-do it later. The Korean War is close enough to WWII.