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HundertzehnGustav

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Re: an opportunity for a serious P-51 Mustang revamp
« Reply #60 on: April 21, 2012, 02:15:34 PM »

omgwhatdididonow!

eddiiieee!
here is for you, to get you all "normal" again.
i KNOW you appreciate this picture.
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Moggy Cattermole

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Re: an opportunity for a serious P-51 Mustang revamp
« Reply #61 on: April 21, 2012, 02:17:02 PM »

M-mum?!

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Re: an opportunity for a serious P-51 Mustang revamp
« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2012, 02:17:41 PM »

I jest. On the other hand, some of the lasses in Essex...

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Re: an opportunity for a serious P-51 Mustang revamp
« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2012, 03:06:06 PM »

...right, I take it nobody's interested then?  :(
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Re: an opportunity for a serious P-51 Mustang revamp
« Reply #64 on: April 21, 2012, 03:19:10 PM »







sorry bout the offtopic...
i will refrain from talking about the subject at hand now.
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Re: an opportunity for a serious P-51 Mustang revamp
« Reply #65 on: April 21, 2012, 03:20:49 PM »

alex... who cares.
some ARE interested.
but this is the SAS - what do you expect.
a lot of opinion in a factual thread.
nothing you can do really, i am afraid.
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Re: an opportunity for a serious P-51 Mustang revamp
« Reply #66 on: April 21, 2012, 04:24:58 PM »

With the utmost respect, old boy, I was under the impression that P51s were done. They'd been subject to a lengthy project by Lt Wolf (a lot of time and effort went into them, I assure you) which covered most major variants, with a painstakingly researched FM. On the other hand, another project was also carried out on the P51s at the same time, by whom I forget for Ultra Pack, again, with much love and effort and research being put into it. There was quite a bit of debate over which FMs were more accurate, with both sides presenting well researched data that their aircraft emulated. At any rate, one or either set of P51s was incorporated into HSFX and UP, and presumably later, DBW as well. Therefore the set of P51s which can be flown with mod packs are have been heavily worked on and are finished. If you take issue with the FM, I assure you, the FMs were very well researched. I've never flown any aircraft, so I cannot comment from there, but I have done a lot of historical research and the sources used were gen. There was a lot of discussion over whether pilot's descriptions from the time and reminiscances were useful or not. (We're talking a few years ago now)

The original modders are probably unlikely to want to re-open what were finished aircraft, and current modders probably have plenty enough on thier plate to getting on with. The other thing is, writing an FM is very difficult and there aren't *that* many people who can do it. But like I said, these aircraft are considered finished, it's not like it was a frankenplane job, and it's not like the P51s were the original 1C jobbies either. So I hope that explains why there have been no takers.

At least the suggestion sparked some interesting debates.

Lord Frank Cholmondley-Featherstoneshaw
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Re: an opportunity for a serious P-51 Mustang revamp
« Reply #67 on: April 21, 2012, 06:50:46 PM »

well without even entering in the whole FM debate, the 3d models are very well far from finished. I listed a good portion of things that should be addressed.

I reckon it's a shame that such an important plane of WW2 is left half finished, it would be nice to bring it up to the standards of the latest FW190s or Bf109s.
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Re: an opportunity for a serious P-51 Mustang revamp
« Reply #68 on: April 21, 2012, 08:42:05 PM »

HundertzehnGustav, those 3D models might have lots of polys but they are very inaccurate. The 3D models in IL2 are actually much closer to reality.
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Re: an opportunity for a serious P-51 Mustang revamp
« Reply #69 on: April 21, 2012, 08:44:43 PM »

well without even entering in the whole FM debate, the 3d models are very well far from finished. I listed a good portion of things that should be addressed.

I reckon it's a shame that such an important plane of WW2 is left half finished, it would be nice to bring it up to the standards of the latest FW190s or Bf109s.


+1..but modding seems to be a bloddy time-consumptive job, FMs, pits, 3D models, skins...I can only say hats off to the community so far regarding what has been accomplished in modded IL-2 over the past years.
Bottom line..I rather say thanks and may any modder do whatever he (or she) pleases.

Good Luck, Alex T., and seriously, if you want to fly them from a different perspective (not judging here), try Histomod. And make sure to activate Freddy's Mustang pits. It's 4.09m, constantly in friendly dispute or disagreement ( :D ) with SAS modders, yet both sides cooperate.

http://histomodforum.forumactif.org/

Cheers

Tom, who loves IL-2 and talks too much...g' night.
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Re: an opportunity for a serious P-51 Mustang revamp
« Reply #70 on: April 22, 2012, 03:25:45 AM »

I'm not sure some of the things you mentioned are even possible, it sounds like a lot of complicated coding.

Ronald
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Re: an opportunity for a serious P-51 Mustang revamp
« Reply #71 on: April 22, 2012, 03:43:27 AM »

How do u mean Moggy?
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