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SAS~Tom2

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Re: F8F
« Reply #300 on: December 30, 2010, 11:39:35 AM »
No pun intended, but I think it's rather highly unlikely the F-16 was the first aircraft to break the F-8's record.
A very early F-15A would have eaten any F-8 climbing in any condition (after leaving the ground and speed let's say 220 knots upward ). Same with F-104 series and F-4s ..also any Mig-21 ;) (?).

From Wiki..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_F8F_Bearcat
"An unmodified production F8F-1 set a 1946 time-to-climb record (after a run of 115 ft/35 m) of 10,000 ft (3,048 m) in 94 seconds (6,383 fpm). The Bearcat held this record for 10 years until it was broken by a modern jet fighter (which could still not match the Bearcat's short takeoff distance)."

The F-4E's rate of climb would be around 7 times faster..e.g-albeit an F-8F1/2 may very well blow the Phantom away in the first 10 seconds... :D
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Re: F8F
« Reply #301 on: December 30, 2010, 03:39:04 PM »
The S-64F helicopter I fly for a living, beat an F-4 Phantom to 10,000 feet way back in the 70's. It did this as a CH-54B, but they are virtually the same machine.  ;)
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Re: F8F
« Reply #302 on: December 30, 2010, 06:02:02 PM »
That Sir sounds amazing. I always knew transport heli pilots are hellmen. ;D

I suppose the real climb advantage for fighter jets comes into play at altitudes beyond 15.00 feet, but that's only a guess.

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Re: F8F
« Reply #303 on: December 31, 2010, 09:31:26 AM »
Please, keep in mind that the time-to-climb starts as soon as the aircraft begins moving.  The Bearcat needed a very short takeoff ground run before beginning the climb phase.  A helicopter needs no ground run.  Jet aircraft, other than VSTOL like the Harrier, need a significant ground run before they can begin to climb.
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Re: F8F
« Reply #304 on: December 31, 2010, 11:37:50 AM »
There's no doubt in my military mind that Stansdds is exactly right about that!! At least as it applies to the helicopter part of it!  ;)
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Re: F8F
« Reply #305 on: January 02, 2011, 08:05:14 AM »
I've written up the weapons.ini entries (cause I'm a neatness freak). I noticed some of the entries are showing the wrong loadouts in the setup screen.

The 150 gal. Droptank and 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets shows the 2x100lb bombs and the  2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR show the  2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR + Droptank loadout.

Keep up the good work Gerd, I'm loving the Bearcat. :)

Code: [Select]
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# F8F-2
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F8F-2.default                    Default
F8F-2.4xhvar2                    4x2.75" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.4xhvargp                   4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.4xhvarap                   4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x150dt                    150 gal. Droptank
F8F-2.1x150dt4xhvar2             150 gal. Droptank + 4x2.75" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x150dt4xhvargp            150 gal. Droptank + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x150dt4xhvarap            150 gal. Droptank + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x100                      2x100lb. Bombs
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvargp             2x100lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvargp1x150dt      2x100lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR + Droptank
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvarap             2x100lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvarap1x150dt      2x100lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR + Droptank
F8F-2.2x100_1x150dt              2x100lb. Bombs + 150 gal. Droptank
F8F-2.2x250                      2x250lb. Bombs
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvargp             2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvargp1x150dt      2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR + Droptank
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvarap             2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvarap1x150dt      2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR + Droptank
F8F-2.2x250_1x150dt              2x250lb. Bombs + 150 gal. Droptank
F8F-2.1x500                      500lb. Bomb
F8F-2.1x500_4xhvargp             500lb. Bomb + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x500_4xhvarap             500lb. Bomb + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x500                      2x500lb. Bombs
F8F-2.2x500_4xhvargp             2x500lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x500_4xhvarap             2x500lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x500_1x150dt              2x500lb. Bombs + 150 gal. Droptank
F8F-2.1x1000                     1000lb. Bomb
F8F-2.1x1000_4xhvargp            1000lb. Bomb + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x1000_4xhvarap            1000lb. Bomb + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.none                       Empty
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Re: F8F
« Reply #306 on: January 02, 2011, 09:31:51 AM »
Is this plane only for 4.09?

I hope not, because it's awesome.
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Re: F8F
« Reply #307 on: January 02, 2011, 10:30:17 AM »
I have it flying in my 4.10.
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Re: F8F
« Reply #308 on: January 02, 2011, 11:14:16 AM »
yep, it works fine in 4.10.
don't be scared to at least try it, guys, before asking if it'll work or not.... :D
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Re: F8F
« Reply #309 on: January 04, 2011, 03:38:52 PM »
I developed temporary F8F-2 MOD of Ver410. ;)

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https://www.mediafire.com/?1x5ve8ed483i12v
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Re: F8F
« Reply #310 on: January 04, 2011, 04:05:24 PM »
Quote from: Tom2 on December 30, 2010, 11:39:35 AM
No pun intended, but I think it's rather highly unlikely the F-16 was the first aircraft to break the F-8's record.
A very early F-15A would have eaten any F-8 climbing in any condition (after leaving the ground and speed let's say 220 knots upward ). Same with F-104 series and F-4s ..also any Mig-21 ;) (?).

Don't forget MiG25 ;)...0-30000m in 3min 10sec (modified)...stock one took just little over 4min for same altitude.
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Re: F8F
« Reply #311 on: January 04, 2011, 07:37:28 PM »
How do you install it in 4.10 without a MODS folder??
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