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Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Other Mods => 3Dfix => Topic started by: Ranwers on May 29, 2022, 06:33:09 AM

Title: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Ranwers on May 29, 2022, 06:33:09 AM
New models of pilots based on WT game

(https://i.postimg.cc/x8HvYxsB/italian.jpg)

You must have mod for big files - download =>https://www.mediafire.com/file/4hebawep70kkdxb/DLL-4096-2017.rar/file
Add in IL2 main folder. Make first copy the files

I recommend to add "head movement" class too (made by Barnesy)

download pilots => https://www.mediafire.com/file/ehcc6ns0d7cwgnn/%2523_PILOT_I.7z/file

(https://i.postimg.cc/85bR0QrJ/2022-09-21-17-53-37.jpg)

Patch1 - pilots for Cant 1007 => https://www.mediafire.com/file/2r4hej01zrzr8tw/CantZ1007_pilots.rar/file
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: cgagan on May 29, 2022, 08:10:41 AM
Vast improvement over the existing ones! Many thanks Master! 8)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: stanislao on May 29, 2022, 09:18:51 AM
 :D   A heartfelt THANK YOU! It's a crazy job! Big, big boost in the realism of our game!

Here too I add the latest patch that RANWERS sent me for publication, it concerns the CantZ1007 Monoderiva, for all SAS friends who love this splendid plane!

Link:  https://www.mediafire.com/file/g3q3iqbowkch329/CantZ1007mono.rar/file

P.S. For those who do not have this aircraft in their Hangar, they can find it in this package which includes the three Cants available
in our simulator, they are in Rebels version 4.09 but absolutely compatible also with version 4.12.
Open the Link:  https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,24416.0.html


(https://i.imgur.com/xXWQBLw.jpg)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: urmel on May 29, 2022, 09:26:11 AM
Brilliant!Many thanks for your work!!!
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: shardana on May 29, 2022, 11:05:17 AM
Fantastico!
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on May 29, 2022, 12:21:31 PM
Thank master!
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: rkalhorn109 on May 29, 2022, 12:59:02 PM
Just when I thought the weekend couldn't get any better. Thank you, Ranwers!   ]hello2[
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: shardana on May 29, 2022, 01:01:13 PM
Where are we supposed to put the file?
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: bomberkiller on May 29, 2022, 02:12:30 PM
Hello Ranwers,

Wunderbar, thanks a lot!

Best regards

 ]cheers[

Gerhard
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Dragunoff on May 30, 2022, 02:23:47 AM
Does anyone know what is "mod for big files" ?
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Epervier on May 30, 2022, 03:01:40 AM
Does anyone know what is "mod for big files" ?
A game able to accept meshes with more than 3000 polys!
Here we are talking about 10000 polys and more!
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Dragunoff on May 30, 2022, 03:04:41 AM
OK, thank you for your quick answer Epervier!!!

Thank you very much Ranwers for this great mod - looks fantastic!!!

Did activation go through JSGME or just to put it in BATMODS folder ?
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Ranwers on May 30, 2022, 03:06:00 AM
Does anyone know what is "mod for big files" ?


Added on first post
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: shardana on May 30, 2022, 04:30:03 AM
I've done all as suggested, but when I have to choose pilot before a mission I don't know under what name to look for. I've got may different pilots
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Kelso on May 30, 2022, 06:25:58 AM
You only choose the plane and the country - Italy. Ranwers' pilot is waiting for you there.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Dragunoff on May 30, 2022, 07:29:47 AM
Thank you Ranwers ! It works and looks great ! GREAT !!!!  ]hello2[ ]hello2[ ]hello2[ ]hello2[ ]thumbsup[

(https://i.postimg.cc/SQgjP4xD/Il2-Sturmovik-Forgotten-Battles-30-05-2022-15-06-12-2.png) (https://postimages.org/)


(https://i.postimg.cc/KYbZzpY1/Il2-Sturmovik-Forgotten-Battles-30-05-2022-15-16-56-2.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Knochenlutscher on May 30, 2022, 08:40:34 AM
Great, top notch, love it
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: tomoose on May 30, 2022, 08:57:24 AM
Wow!  Outstanding.  Are Allied pilots on the way too (or am I late to the party as usual)?
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Ranwers on May 30, 2022, 09:09:41 AM
Are Allied pilots on the way too (or am I late to the party as usual)?

Easy...
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: bestekampfpilot58 on May 30, 2022, 08:39:19 PM

Hey guys, embarrassed to ask, but, HOW do you activate
these Italian pilots? :-[ They look GREAT!!  :o
Thanks!
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: stanislao on May 31, 2022, 08:11:04 AM
 :)  This mod to be activated must have priority over all the others, otherwise other mods take over, so it must be placed at the top of the Mods list by prefixing the folder name for example with the symbols "    !!! _    ", However remember that the Italian pilots and Frenchmen will appear only if you assign the Italian or French nationality to the plane, for other nationalities only Oleg's puppet pilots will appear ...  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: bestekampfpilot58 on May 31, 2022, 11:47:08 AM


Thanks stanislao, :) But, what folder, do I put '!!!      PILOTS Italy' in?, Batmods, Waw3? No idea... :-[
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: bomberkiller on May 31, 2022, 12:22:49 PM
Quote
But, what folder, do I put '!!!

If you fly WAW3 your modsfolder: #WAW3.

Best regards

 ]cheers[

Gerhard
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: bestekampfpilot58 on May 31, 2022, 12:57:46 PM
Hey Gerhard, thanks!  :) Yeah that is where I put the Italian pilots into #WAW3...
I also installed il2_core.dll and il2_corep4 in the root of Bat and made copies
of the originals...I did not (yet) use Barnesys head movement which is optional?

So, when I get Bat loaded up into quick mission, and select (for example) an
Mc-200, the select button will flash, but the plane will NOT load!? What? o_O
So, it looks like my system doesn't like these files, il2_core.dll and il2_corep4
or, the files are in the wrong place? Why this doesn't work is beyond me? :-[ :(

I have Italian pilots listed like this in #Waw3,    !                               PILOTS Italy


Il2-1946_Bat\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946-Ver 4.12.2   il2_corep4.dll

Cheers!

P.S. If I load a different plane in quick mission then select a Italian plane, when I select R.A. - Regia Aeronautica
the plane will disappear!?   o_O
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Epervier on May 31, 2022, 04:28:08 PM
So, when I get Bat loaded up into quick mission, and select (for example) an
Mc-200, the select button will flash, but the plane will NOT load!?
LOG ?
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: bestekampfpilot58 on May 31, 2022, 05:36:55 PM
Hi, Epervier,

I just now tried to fly a  mission in  QUICK MISSION, I selected a Macchi MC200 Series 7, 1941 R.S.I (ANR 1943-45) This allowed me to view the
aircraft, however as soon as I selected R.A.-Regia Aeronautica, POOF!,  the plane disappears!!
Here is my logfile...

https://pastebin.com/CmHd8z0i


P.S.
Just had EXACTLY the same result in Vp-modpack! Disappearing planes..So, it's not just Bat that is acting erratically..Sad to say...I hope it is not caused by my old computer!! :(

a 'Snippet' from my log-file.."WARNING: object '3DO/Plane/MC-200_VII(it)/eye.mat' of class 'TMaterial' not loaded", seems like I've seen this type of message in the past? o_O
I don't remember the solution however....
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: bomberkiller on May 31, 2022, 07:59:01 PM
Hello BKP58,

please try the following:

Main Game Folder\ BATDOCS\ BATDLLS-00_SAS-ModAct...

or copy BATDLLS-02_BAT-Alternative to desktop, unpack, put these files back into your main game folder.

You will then be asked whether the existing files should be replaced - then you click yes.

For these different DLL files, there is no one-size-fits-all law. You have to try...!

I copied the BATDLLS-00 into mine so that the 4K (49153kb) skins can be displayed.

With best regards and good luck,

 ]cheers[

Gerhard
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: bestekampfpilot58 on May 31, 2022, 08:51:44 PM
Hello Gerhard, sorry that didn't work! The airplanes just disappear! I tried two of the Bat files,  BATDLLS-00_SAS-ModAct, and BATDLLS-02_BAT-Alternative.
Same dismal result. But, at least I have a clue the game is looking for and cannot find this...WARNING: object '3DO/Plane/MC-200_VII(it)/eye.mat' of class
'TMaterial' not loaded"

If I can track back in time and remember HOW to help correct the path to this "eye.mat' then I'm sure that at least that problem would be solved?! I hope!
Check back later!  ]banghead[  ::)
Thanks! (Vielen Dank!!)

Horrido!
 

P.S. SO I de-activated the Italian pilots mod, kept in place all the new .dlls, and the game (Vp_Modpack) runs just fine, sans the Italian pilots of course!!
So, I'm convinced that the missing 'eye.mat' file is the reason for the missing planes, not the .dlls..Barking up the wrong tree as it were.  ]confused2[ If I could only track down
the history of the problem that I had a few years back (2019?) with another missing mat file..I'm sure that the situation would be 'gold!'
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: bomberkiller on May 31, 2022, 09:42:16 PM
Haha, just checked,

had the same crash (100%) like you.

I made a new mods folder "#WAW3".

In that folder I took only the required mods for #WAW3.

I chosed "Country Italy" - nothing showed up in the "aircraft window".

I chosed "Country Luftwaffe" and the MC-200 Serie7 showed up in game but without the new "Pilot Italy".

It semes we have to wait for repaired mods...!

 ]cheers[

Gerhard
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: bestekampfpilot58 on May 31, 2022, 10:26:07 PM

AH_HA!! ]confused2[
Sehr Gut! ]salut[ Just like me!! But wait, it gets better!! I got the FRENCH pilots to WORK!!! Ja! Wunderbar!!! I just had a nice
dogfight in a Vichy French Hawk 75 with a Cool French pilot, against a P40B Tomahawk!   ]blob8[ ]blob9[ SO! Why do the french pilots work?, but not the
Italian pilots? (eye.mat!?)  Plus I saw a PINK Bf109!!??  Because of the eye mat error or the new .dlls? Sheesh? Not sure WHAT to make of this mod(s)
Anyway!! Thanks a lot for cluing me in!!
Cheers!

Horrido!

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WOOO HOOOOO!!! ]hello2[ ]hello2[ ]headbang[ ]headbang[ ]blob1[
In BAT I now have BOTH French AND Italian pilots!!! I think a re-boot helped?, I don't know, but they are there!!!!! JA!!!
I can't get both to work in VP-modpack, but in Bat I DID!!!!! Shazamm!!, those pilots look GOOD!!!!  :o 8)
GOOD WORK GUYS!! Well done!! German pilots next? Fingers crossed that all is well!! 🤞
Cheers!!
Horrido!
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: bomberkiller on May 31, 2022, 10:37:41 PM
Quote
Italian pilots? (eye.mat!?)

Exactly!

Put the "EYES" from french pilot, wasn't a solution either.

 ]cheers[
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mission_bug on June 02, 2022, 01:26:02 PM
Excellent, thank you very much, really appreciated. 8)

I had a problem with these only showing in some aircraft, even stock stuff like the SM-79 would not load them. o_O

Looking in the folders later it looks like only some Italian aircraft are contained within so just check before a particular type is tested
that it has a folder within the mod, at least I think that is the reason for the no show. ;)


Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on June 02, 2022, 03:42:05 PM
Excellent, thank you very much, really appreciated. 8)

I had a problem with these only showing in some aircraft, even stock stuff like the SM-79 would not load them. o_O

... well, that's quite normal, since the SM79 is not included in the pack ...  ;)

Only the pilots for these planes are included :

(https://i.postimg.cc/8Czv7zDW/pilots-Italy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dhg3Xvht)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: mikojan3 on June 05, 2022, 08:11:45 AM
Hello Gerhard, sorry that didn't work! The airplanes just disappear! I tried two of the Bat files,  BATDLLS-00_SAS-ModAct, and BATDLLS-02_BAT-Alternative.
Same dismal result. But, at least I have a clue the game is looking for and cannot find this...WARNING: object '3DO/Plane/MC-200_VII(it)/eye.mat' of class
'TMaterial' not loaded"

If I can track back in time and remember HOW to help correct the path to this "eye.mat' then I'm sure that at least that problem would be solved?! I hope!
Check back later!  ]banghead[  ::)
Thanks! (Vielen Dank!!)

Horrido!
ufff i have the same problem in any installation of il-2 same error
 

P.S. SO I de-activated the Italian pilots mod, kept in place all the new .dlls, and the game (Vp_Modpack) runs just fine, sans the Italian pilots of course!!
So, I'm convinced that the missing 'eye.mat' file is the reason for the missing planes, not the .dlls..Barking up the wrong tree as it were.  ]confused2[ If I could only track down
the history of the problem that I had a few years back (2019?) with another missing mat file..I'm sure that the situation would be 'gold!'
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: mikojan3 on June 05, 2022, 08:13:10 AM
french worked very fine but italian and RAF don t work eyes mat error
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: mikojan3 on June 06, 2022, 06:11:28 AM
ok air gentlemans i have realized the problem is just the raf pilots
raf enabled italian and raf don t work
raf disabled italian and french worked perfect hmmm strange sure is a conflict in this 2 packs
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Knochenlutscher on June 07, 2022, 07:33:19 AM
God of IL-2 Modding invented lightnings.
We are all doomed, nothing works here.

The latest picture showing our regular Users when forced to use a Mod.
(https://i.imgur.com/0goKtJB.jpeg)





Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on June 07, 2022, 09:58:31 AM
 ]laughing4] ]cheers[
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Ranwers on June 07, 2022, 10:31:01 AM
Guys - I see that this mods give more problem with use.
Sorry for that. First i made it for myself and few friends only.

After many asking, that work not properlly for many users- I have question - do you want more pilots ?
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Sergent Pepper on June 07, 2022, 10:59:40 AM
Guys - I see that this mods give more problem with use.
Sorry for that. First i made it for myself and few friends only.

After many asking, that work not properlly for many users- I have question - do you want more pilots ?
Yes! of course (for my own).
Thank you for your beautiful work.
For some planes there are little issues, but easy to solve (disabling Re-2005 folder for example).
It's not heavy, it remains the others!!!.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: hguderian on June 07, 2022, 11:07:38 AM
Yes!! For sure...Usaf and Luftwaffe I hope :))

Many thanks Ranwers!
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Knochenlutscher on June 07, 2022, 12:10:12 PM
Ranwers, this Mod is awesome. I'm glad you shared.
Don't feel sorry, nor ashamed.

For us old Breeds, a glitch is no complainer, if you know how to fix.
Folks who can't fix stuff themselves, do like Sgt. Pepper and disable the folders for the moment.

more Pilots?
Definitely Yes, Ranwers, whatever work you do, I had literally no trouble using these Mods.
I'm already working on 1-2 Fixes for Italy and RAF pilots plus additions for BAT.
Will post the Links as soon as I finished the Fixes.

Best wishes
Tobias

Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: starfighter311 on June 07, 2022, 12:42:03 PM
 :) Hello Ranwers!


Yes! we must continue,
even if for the moment they do not all work correctly, take as long as it takes to do them.
 
Your Pilots are really beautiful, with a lot of details, a lot of realism and adds a considerable improvement for our good old Il2,
(seeing blinking eyes, it's awesome 8))

it would be good in the future to have in addition the USAF, USN, RU, LUFTW., JAP, and other Pilots, in a maximum of aircraft,
or at least the most representative.

Congratulations again for all that you do, and for a long time,
All this deserves careful work and requires time, so don't be discouraged and don't be disappointed,

We must consider this wonderful work as a WIP for now.

Maybe other people could take over to help you and have a more general integration in BAT or in the form of a ModPack


Time doesn't matter, only the result counts, you have to know how to be patient.


Many thanks,
Best wishes

 ;) ;) ;)

starfighter311
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Ranwers on June 07, 2022, 12:58:43 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/nVKJqC4w/2021-09-17-10-53-03.jpg)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: stanislao on June 08, 2022, 02:53:55 AM
 ;D     Siiiii  !! Full speed ahead ! These pilots are a breath of fresh air to our game! Even Oleg's old planes with your boys have acquired a charm that was long lost! You have no idea how much more enjoyable it is to fly without those awkward pilot simulacra! Thanks and with the help of all of us this mod will become a real game changer! Incidentally, 101tfs' Re2005 has always given problems, even without your pilot, so it probably doesn't depend on your job.

Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Dragunoff on June 10, 2022, 12:33:59 PM
Yes, we want more! Thank you Ranwers!!!
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: mikojan3 on June 11, 2022, 02:28:15 PM
Guys - I see that this mods give more problem with use.
Sorry for that. First i made it for myself and few friends only.

After many asking, that work not properlly for many users- I have question - do you want more pilots ?
Yes! of course (for my own).
Thank you for your beautiful work.
For some planes there are little issues, but easy to solve (disabling Re-2005 folder for example).
It's not heavy, it remains the others!!!.
yes absolutely pacific was nice
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Timex62 on June 12, 2022, 12:40:24 PM
Definitely, no question about it! There may be some bugs to work out (by folks more tech savvy than myself) but this is a great improvement.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: ssn637 on June 13, 2022, 04:26:28 AM
I for one will be a happy camper once Tobias has helped to get Ranwers' outstanding creation to work in BAT, especially the RAF pilots since I love chasing down Messerschmitts in my Spitfire XIV!

Thanks for everything, you guys are geniuses and we can't live without you!

Cheers

Geoffrey
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: bomberkiller on June 13, 2022, 04:29:55 AM
Quote
but this is a great improvement.

Yes!

 8)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Knochenlutscher on June 13, 2022, 05:58:30 AM
Here's the first ITA Pilot Fix

Tested in BAT

https://www.mediafire.com/file/jzcmv532wuplvtg/%2523_PILOTS_Italy.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/jzcmv532wuplvtg/%2523_PILOTS_Italy.7z/file)



Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Sergent Pepper on June 13, 2022, 06:53:24 AM
Thank you! :)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Sergent Pepper on June 13, 2022, 07:58:06 AM
I've got a try...
With 4.12.2 (VP Mod Act) full success!  :)
But this mod doesn't like open canopy mods for Macchi fighters.
It's not an issue, open canopy has no effect in cockpit view.
With 4.13.4 (SAS Mod Act 6.40 and Y.Pack 1.2.3) Re2005 remains inoperable : plane's folder has to be loaded first.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Knochenlutscher on June 16, 2022, 12:23:26 PM
Then be happy it works.

Re.2005 I must look at confirm in BAT here. Will be fixed.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Kelso on June 17, 2022, 12:06:08 AM
Barnesy head movement for 4.13.4
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ibn3w9k24pbidwy/Barnesy_head_movement_4.13.7Z/file
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Knochenlutscher on June 17, 2022, 07:39:03 AM
Small glitch in my Add-Ons to Ranwers Pilots, some Planes miss the blinking Eye feature.
Will shuffle out a fix this Weekend, stay on or off alert, how you wish.

It's an easy to solve issue.

Thanks Gerhard/Bomberkiller for the pointer  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 06, 2022, 11:55:35 AM
... the G-55 Silurante ...

(https://i.postimg.cc/JhCLxtxM/06-09-2022-16-10-20.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DS6HyvRM)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Epervier on September 06, 2022, 12:44:01 PM
... the G-55 Silurante ...
Tu vois quand tu veux !!   :D   :P
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 06, 2022, 03:31:04 PM
... I have no merit, since there was only one protoype built, tested with a mock wooden torpedo ...  :-X

(https://i.postimg.cc/FFwHHhL2/Silurante-prototype.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Epervier on September 10, 2022, 08:34:41 AM
In first post, link for italians pilots is dead !  :-[
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: raf1659 on September 10, 2022, 02:20:32 PM
... the G-55 Silurante ...

From where download the mod ?
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 10, 2022, 03:35:20 PM
... try here ...  ;)

https://archive.org/details/G55-S_Centaurov_v1.2_MULTI_FULL-HD_OR_REGULAR_FOR_IL2-1946_4.13.4
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: raf1659 on September 10, 2022, 04:24:32 PM
... try here ...  ;)

https://archive.org/details/G55-S_Centaurov_v1.2_MULTI_FULL-HD_OR_REGULAR_FOR_IL2-1946_4.13.4

Thanks but...is BAT compatible ?  :-|
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 11, 2022, 12:29:45 AM
... sorry, I don't know, the version I use is 4.09 adapted and this one is for :

REQUIREMENTS :

 IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946 - Version 4.13.4
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Epervier on September 11, 2022, 03:32:41 AM
On the original post on his original site...

REQUIREMENTS :

IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946 - Version 4.13.4 / 4.12.2 / HSFX 7.0.3

(May work in other versions)

Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Korrigan on September 11, 2022, 09:20:15 AM
Quickly tested in BAT, it seems to work fine.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 21, 2022, 01:32:44 PM
... Ranwers kindly added the Cant 1007 bis pilots, just here :

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,69518.msg757085.html#msg757085

(https://i.postimg.cc/QMGv9Lnf/21-09-2022-19-02-29.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/874Z9YGv)

and here after renaming the folder, the Cant 1007 Monoderiva ... ;)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fbNgWcJF/21-09-2022-19-14-44.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1wk0s5c)

(https://i.postimg.cc/nrDPc0Yy/21-09-2022-19-15-19.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/n9nk3KW2)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 22, 2022, 04:40:12 AM
... this morning I tried to put Ranwers pilots inside the SM79, and so far I am only half satisfied, as the dorsal gunner is looking forward, even when he is shooting backwards, and the lateral gunner is also looking forward even when he is firing from either side ...  :-X

The pilot and copilot look OK, and maybe also the belly gunner ...  ;)

(https://i.postimg.cc/KzYx2bts/22-09-2022-9-19-57.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/94svdv8G)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QM8rQDYx/22-09-2022-9-20-09.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sMN8zkRt)

(https://i.postimg.cc/259833jf/22-09-2022-9-35-52.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7dKxsTW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jj1tt9vx/22-09-2022-9-36-01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xkLWP6Wh)

(https://i.postimg.cc/HLr1Zzmf/22-09-2022-9-38-32.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LqFWhznT)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 22, 2022, 05:30:34 AM
Dear Mick !!

Cant 1007 etc...

Thank you for your hard working...  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on September 22, 2022, 05:32:04 AM
 :D  :D   :D  I am delighted! A huge thank you to Ranwers for his Italian crew on Cant Alcione! They work great!    ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on September 22, 2022, 05:40:49 AM
 :D   And thanks also to Mick for his efforts in placing a crew of Ranwers on the Cant and now on the Savoia Marchetti!
In brackets I put the Ranwers pilots in a duplicate folder titled "CantZ1007mo" But Ranwers' pilots do not appear ... Oleg's remain ...... how should I rename it?   :-[



Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 22, 2022, 07:31:14 AM
... the Italian pilots in (Dimon's I think) Fiat BR-20 ...  8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/dVn6sJ9G/21-09-2022-16-24-59.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HrcX3DRL)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZK46C1nH/21-09-2022-16-25-02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4n2Y02zH)

(https://i.postimg.cc/pdwFxS3D/21-09-2022-16-25-12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sBJX4TjX)

(https://i.postimg.cc/76rfj2T9/21-09-2022-16-27-34.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5Hp4CjgQ)

My modding teacher, Epervier, gave me a tip regarding the SM79 gunners, so I'll try to move them 180° using Kempel's tool, fingers crossed ...  8)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on September 22, 2022, 08:05:48 AM
 ;D  Dear Mick, Ranwers IT crew for Dimon's magnificent Br20 are already in the Fiat-20 folder .. I'm happy to see progress on the Sm79, can't wait!
Can anyone give me a little help on Cant1007 monoderiva?

Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 22, 2022, 08:34:06 AM
... well guys, there's nothing like a good teacher like my friend Epervier ...!  8)

He wrote a tutorial about Kempel's tool for me, and I managed to turn both gunners 180° on my first attempt ...!  :P

(https://i.postimg.cc/Hx3SsK7P/SM79-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/j5qX9Xk6/SM79-4.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/tJxVmnyt/22-09-2022-14-10-36.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/y37dDdDk)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5sjbG9M/Sm79-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hXxVM31L)

Here is the SM79 DL link (IES version I believe) for you to try ...  ;)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ohllrhw3758k0nu/SM79-I(it).7z/file
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 22, 2022, 08:52:04 AM
Here is the SM79 DL link (IES version I believe) for you to try ...  ;)

This is another victory... ;D ;D ;D

But dear Mick..!!

All the pilots of SM79 seem to be wearing the wrong Hmask... :o

    - 4.12.2m, SAS 5.30+BAT 4.0

(https://i.postimg.cc/1XPt3gY1/2022-09-22-16-12-54.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TL7GkP6t)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 22, 2022, 11:16:14 AM
... sorry about that detail being wrong ...  :-[

In fact the Mask model seems to be OK, it is the value of the "Attaching" line that is wrong and needs being edited ...  ;)

I'll check tomorrow (I use a 4.09 version of the game) and fix that bug ...  ;)

So, until tomorrow, fly the SM79 under 3000 m, and the Mask bug won't be displayed ...! 8)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 22, 2022, 01:11:48 PM
... OK, I couldn't wait until tomorrow, so here's the fix ...

(https://i.postimg.cc/G34qmVM6/22-09-2022-18-57-23.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V5cj7GPF)

You only need to replace the previous hier.him with this one ...

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ux05mv5xwyv2rhz/hier.him/file

Thank you gunny0134 for pointing to that visual bug ...  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 22, 2022, 02:29:21 PM
... if you wish, you can also edit the pilot mat files, so that one or several pilots/gunners wear the white flying suit instead of the leather default one ...  ;)

You only need to add the letter"w" (stands for "white") to the name of the texture called by the mat file.

This texture name must be exactly the same as the one you'll find in the TEXTURES folder.

Here, only the two pilots are wearing the white flying suit :

(https://i.postimg.cc/htNFPDGX/22-09-2022-20-10-45.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/87dXZVMG)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 22, 2022, 06:09:14 PM
... if you wish, you can also edit the pilot mat files, so that one or several pilots/gunners wear the white flying suit instead of the leather default one ...  ;)

You only need to add the letter"w" (stands for "white") to the name of the texture called by the mat file.

This texture name must be exactly the same as the one you'll find in the TEXTURES folder.

Good information...dear Mick !!!

Thank you very much  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 23, 2022, 02:35:08 AM
... you can also mix, for example keep the brown leather helmet, but change the flying suit to the white one, or the contrary ...  ;)

Maybe you didn't see the Mask fix just above ... ?  8)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 23, 2022, 03:47:57 AM
... you can also mix, for example keep the brown leather helmet, but change the flying suit to the white one, or the contrary ...  ;)

Dear MIck. It's not as easy as I thought.

I am now studying about this... ::(

Maybe you didn't see the Mask fix just above ... ?  8)

I installed it and confirmed that it was normal... ;)


Now I have MTO planes and 3D pilots, but I can't get one map from the MALTA mission to apply them. The old map name is this. ''mrz MALTA(high etc 4 ini)''

Of course, This is in BAT mod. But among the objects required for the MALTA mission, 'ShipArchie' is 70% CTD in BAT mod. in SAS mod...it's ok.

So I'm trying to run this mission on SAS mod, but now the link is dead for getting the map, so I can't get the map. All other objects have been set up.

If anyone has this map file, please share it.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 23, 2022, 04:55:14 AM
... maybe this is what you're looking for ...  ;)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/zfukr7re7zjnaeu/mrz_malta.7z/file
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 23, 2022, 05:17:44 AM
... maybe this is what you're looking for ...  ;)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/zfukr7re7zjnaeu/mrz_malta.7z/file

This is what I was looking for... ;D ;D ;D

Dear Mick...!!

Thank you always.
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 23, 2022, 06:12:37 AM
Yes, it works well the mrz Malta Map on SAS mod 5.30.

The old ones are good ones...!!

The GB_Battle for Malta 1940_42 mission is now possible... ;D

Thank you.

(https://i.postimg.cc/BvHG6s8T/2022-09-23-12-00-44.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2qktcs7y)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on September 23, 2022, 10:53:28 AM
 ;D    Well, I am sending you the latest Ranwers Patch which concerns an aircraft that I particularly love, the CantZ1007 Alcione Monoderiva. A heartfelt thanks to Ranwers for all his monumental work!
Here is the Link:     https://www.mediafire.com/file/g3q3iqbowkch329/CantZ1007mono.rar/file 

P.S. For those who do not have this aircraft in their Hangar, they can find it in this package which includes the three Cants availablein our simulator, they are in Rebels version 4.09 but absolutely compatible also with version 4.12.
Open the Link:  https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,24416.0.html
 


(https://i.imgur.com/Kyncbe1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xXWQBLw.jpg)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 23, 2022, 08:41:15 PM
Well, I am sending you the latest Ranwers Patch which concerns an aircraft that I particularly love, the CantZ1007 Alcione Monoderiva. A heartfelt thanks to Ranwers for all his monumental work!
Here is the Link: https://www.mediafire.com/file/g3q3iqbowkch329/CantZ1007mono.rar/file

Dear stanislao...!!

I'm asking to you because I don't know well.

Where is the plane file of CantZ1007mono? I can't find it in this forum. It's not even on the planes list of BAT mod(4.0).

I can't find it anywhere... ::(

So I downloaded your file, but the pilots are playing on the ground because they don't have a plane to board.

Please help them... ::(

Thank you.

PS : maybe CantZ1007bis = CantZ1007monoderiva ???
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 24, 2022, 01:26:13 AM
... there is a 4.09 version here, try it ...  ;)

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=24416.0

... and skins by Stanislao here :

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,63616.msg700415.html#msg700415

Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 24, 2022, 02:16:44 AM
... there is a 4.09 version here, try it ...  ;)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=24416.0

Oops...!!

I already checked this chapter.

There was no mention of 'Mono', so I thought it wasn't right file.

But when I saw your article, I downloaded the file and opened it, it was inside.

Thank you always, dear Mick and Stanislao... ;D
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 24, 2022, 05:10:16 AM
CantZ1007mono(4.09) works well on 4.12.2m BAT mod 4.0...!!!

(https://i.postimg.cc/sfPWKjz8/2022-09-24-10-31-07.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3v3jd7c)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 24, 2022, 11:43:35 AM
Dear Mick...!!

Where did this plane(Br20) come from?

(https://i.postimg.cc/T2nNszSH/21-09-2022-16-24-59.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on September 24, 2022, 03:44:09 PM
The Br20 used by Ranwers is a truly spectacular model posted by Dimon, you can find it at this link:      https://www.mediafire.com/file/8458qrln2jq968x/Fiat_BR.20M_Flyable-v2.0_Dimon.rar/file

Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 24, 2022, 06:11:10 PM
The Br20 used by Ranwers is a truly spectacular model posted by Dimon

Thank you, dear Stanislao !!

I applied it and checked it...It's looks really good... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 26, 2022, 01:18:56 AM
... I also plan to put Ranwers Italian pilots in other aircraft, maybe the Cant-506 will be the next one ...  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 26, 2022, 12:25:35 PM
... first attempt, Cant-506 ...  ;)

... but still a lot of work to do, especially with the gunners and bomber ...  :-[

(https://i.postimg.cc/g0Yr1JjQ/26-09-2022-16-48-03.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WdH2ksMw)upload pictures website (https://postimages.org/fr/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/25KbvYjt/26-09-2022-17-50-44.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hJVtWHd8)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 27, 2022, 03:31:32 AM
... the Ro-57 Quadriarma is here :

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,69537.0.html

... DL link soon ...  8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/j21xCsRq/27-09-2022-8-58-26.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XBwSz6Zt)

(https://i.postimg.cc/D0RhnBc8/27-09-2022-9-05-33.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJ1yT1yB)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 27, 2022, 04:32:41 AM
... here is the DL link :

This link only contains the plane folder, according to your install and version of the game, and where you installed 101tfs new Ro-57 Quadriarma you may also need the "TEXTURES" folder that comes with Ranwers Italian pilots pack ...

Besides, I just saw that a new fixed version has been released ...

https://www.mediafire.com/file/siniunwxjr1uow0/Ro57bis(multi1).7z/file
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 27, 2022, 10:39:40 AM
... next step ...  ;)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Zqc4X58W/27-09-2022-16-16-22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z9CGdZDm)

(https://i.postimg.cc/VvbysfCB/27-09-2022-16-17-02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zH5201pV)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on September 27, 2022, 11:01:07 AM

 ::(  Nisba, apparently the He111 is not compatible with my version 4.12. I give up. Or maybe you worked on the He111 family version and maybe it depends on it ..
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 27, 2022, 01:30:01 PM
Your gentlemen will be able to choose between sitting back a little comfortably, or pulling a little forward and holding a stick with the pilot of Mick's Ro57bis (multi1)

I choose the pilot of Ro57bis(multi1) to hold the stick. (4.12.2m, SAS mod 5.30)

If you want a pilot to hold a stick, fix the pilot's position value in hier.him as follows :

[Pilot1_D0]
Mesh Pilot1_D0
Parent CF_D0
Attaching 0 1 0 -1 0 -0.2 -0.2 0 1 1.42 0 0.071
CollisionObject xpilot1a
CollisionObject xpilot1b
CollisionObject xhead1

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKZ57gVT/2022-09-27-19-03-52.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WShWts6)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 27, 2022, 02:59:30 PM
... many THX gunny0134, now flying the Ro-57 is much easier than before ...!  8)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 27, 2022, 07:06:11 PM
::(  Nisba, apparently the He111 is not compatible with my version 4.12. I give up. Or maybe you worked on the He111 family version and maybe it depends on it ..

VP mod... ::( ::( ::(

It seems that the VP mod is different from SAS modactivator 5.30 and BAT 4.0 Red Core, so I am sorry that I can't help you with anything...!
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 28, 2022, 04:32:05 AM
... see here :

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,68976.msg757433.html#msg757433

... here is the DL link for the Caproni Vizzola FN-305 ...  ;)

If you put it in Ranwers Pilots Italy folder, then you won't need the "TEXTURES" folder, as it is already in there ...  ;)

But if you replace your original plane folder with this one, then you may need the Italian "TEXTURES" folder ...  ;)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/s8kb569w65d9a87/Vizzola-F5.7z/file
.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Kelso on September 28, 2022, 04:59:19 AM
... here is the DL link for the Caproni Vizzola FN-305 ...  ;)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/s8kb569w65d9a87/Vizzola-F5.7z/file.
You have a misplaced dead man. The value is valid:

Code: [Select]
[Pilot1_D1]
Mesh Pilot1_D1
Parent Pilot1_D0
Hidden
Attaching 0 -0.766045 -0.642788 0 0.642788 -0.766045 1 0 0 0 -0.0201797 0.660836

For my part, I recommend placing Ranwers pilots separately (not integrated with the plane's mod). The 3d models of the pilots are very 'heavy' and it is not known yet how this will affect the game with more planes in the air. I am still afraid of that. When they are separate - it is easy to turn them off.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 28, 2022, 05:57:33 AM
... THX for the right values, in fact this is my fault as I never check with a dead pilot, so no wonder the Attaching values are wrong ...  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 28, 2022, 05:13:34 PM
... here is the DL link for the Caproni Vizzola FN-305 ...  ;)

Hi, dear Mick..!

I'm sorry I didn't have a plane to board this pilot.

This plane isn't even on BAT Mod 4.0's air list.

I think the 4.09 version contains this plane.

Is it a plane with a different name?

like these B-239, B-339...

In this case, if possible, I'd like a link of the plane file to be provided together.

Thank you always.

PS: The BAT 4.0 has a plane called the FN-305A (Nardi), but it's a different plane than the one you posted.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7YG7BH9C/2022-09-28-23-05-23.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7f4fhypD)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on September 29, 2022, 01:09:57 AM
... sorry gunny ...!  :-[

In fact when I posted the Vizzola with new pilot by Ranwers, I totally forgot this plane wasn't in BAT, not even at SAS ...  :-X

In fact it can be found at some other site, but I can't post the link to it (SAS rules) ...

So I sent a PM to you, and if anybody else also wants it, please send me a PM ...  ;)

The plane is by Dimon and the skins are by dear friend Stanislao ...  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on September 29, 2022, 01:42:11 AM
Thank you so much, Mick... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on October 03, 2022, 01:27:47 PM
... THX to Epervier, here are beautiful sticks for the SM-79 ...  ;)

(https://i.postimg.cc/d3tWWhVd/03-10-2022-18-46-45.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcR4ns5s)

(https://i.postimg.cc/T14cCQSM/03-10-2022-18-46-49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/302pwjYn)


... the files go inside the plane folder, and the original hier.him of the plane must be edited by adding the content of the hier.him of the stick, just copy the lines at the end of the original hier.him ...

Link :

https://www.mediafire.com/file/pgn7mo8mbih1dn2/SM-79_Stick.7z/file
.
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Kelso on October 03, 2022, 02:54:10 PM
The link is not working.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on October 03, 2022, 03:08:47 PM
... fixed ...

https://www.mediafire.com/file/pgn7mo8mbih1dn2/SM-79_Stick.7z/file
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on October 04, 2022, 12:48:29 AM
... you may get a weird colour for the SM-79 sticks, according to the skin you use ...  :-X

To fix that, once and for all :

1) open the plane folder

2) scroll all the way down to : Stick.msh

3) open it (with Windows Notepad for ex)

4) replace the word Gloss1D0o just under [Materials], with the word : Stick

5) save & exit, and from now on, you will have grey sticks, same colour as the Beaufighter stick ...  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: shardana on October 04, 2022, 05:42:56 AM
Mick in your folder it happens to be only One stick, Guess there should be two.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on October 04, 2022, 06:01:17 AM
... no, only one, since contrary to the Beaufighter, the SM-79 stick is in one piece ...  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: shardana on October 04, 2022, 07:15:35 AM
Oky doky, thank’s!
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on October 06, 2022, 12:00:11 AM
If your gentlemen want the second stick of the SM-79, do this... ;)

Copy all of Mick's files and rename them Stick2 each.

Then paste them into the appropriate plane folder.

And put one more stick position value in hier.him.

[Stick2]
Mesh Stick2
Parent CF_D0
Attaching 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1  -0.337 -1.31 -0.065

Thank you.

(https://i.postimg.cc/NM0rr4Fd/2022-10-05-08-40-46.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2qP5sn4W)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on October 06, 2022, 12:42:01 AM
... many THX gunny, but strangely I already had two sticks with Epervier's fix in my 4.09 version ...  o_O

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,68976.msg757792.html#msg757792

... now I better undestand shardana's question ...! ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on October 06, 2022, 01:18:11 AM
... many THX gunny, but strangely I already had two sticks with Epervier's fix in my 4.09 version ...  o_O
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,68976.msg757792.html#msg757792
... now I better undestand shardana's question ...! ;)

I think 4.09 is definitely much different than 4.12.2m.

In fact, I also didn't understand why there was only one stick in your file when I saw Reply #112 on: October 04, 2022, 06:01:17 AM and your captured photos... ;)

Now I understand the situation.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on October 06, 2022, 01:36:05 AM
... many THX gunny, but strangely I already had two sticks with Epervier's fix in my 4.09 version ...  o_O
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,68976.msg757792.html#msg757792
... now I better undestand shardana's question ...! ;)

I think 4.09 is definitely much different than 4.12.2m.

In fact, I also didn't understand why there was only one stick in your file when I saw Reply #112 on: October 04, 2022, 06:01:17 AM and your captured photos... ;)

Now I understand the situation.

Thank you.

... yep, that's because I misundertood shardana's question, I thought he was wondering why the Cant stick was in one part, when the Beau stick was in two parts (column + steering wheel), when in fact shardana was certainly wondering why he only got one stick in his (4.12 ?) Cant ... :-X

So my reply was irrelevant, but I didn't know only one stick (probably) showed in his Cant ...  :-[

THX for this fix, now everybody will have two sticks, no matter which game version is used ...!  8)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: shardana on October 06, 2022, 06:43:07 AM
Yes that's exactly what I meant. Thank you guys!! 
Now I would like to have more informations, step by step, on how to change colours in pilots uniforms.  I don't know in which files add the "w" in front of the pilot name.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on October 06, 2022, 07:32:56 AM
... no, not in front ...  ;)

Well in fact the "w" (white) is only found in the Italian TEXTURES folder ...  ;)

If you take a look inside the Italian TEXTURES folder you will see white textures that are exactly the same as the default brown leather ones, except that there are whote and not in leather ...

So you only need to open the pilot.mat files, check which texture they call in the TEXTURES folder, and replace their name with the texture of a different colour (if there is one) that exists in the TEXTURES folder ...

For example, if you want to have the SM-79 pilot + copilot with white helmets and flying suits like here :

(https://i.postimg.cc/G2xNjScK/06-10-2022-13-07-56.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tZ72qknn)

... then you need to edit several mat files like that :

https://www.mediafire.com/file/1y0ejve94c6knif/SM-79+white+pilots.7z/file

If you want them, just copy them and replace the SM-79 original mat files in your game ...  ;)

For example you can also fit the AR-196 pilot/gunner with a life vest texture that exists in the German TEXTURES folder :

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,69252.msg757779.html#msg757779
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on October 08, 2022, 01:46:28 AM
... well after so many bugs and a great mystery that was fixed by Epervier, comming very soon ...  8)

The original Cant-506 like you've never seen her, even in your wildest dreams  :P :

(https://i.postimg.cc/L8jZX5cY/07-10-2022-20-19-21-cr.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3kJwf8JY)

The Cant-506 with new Ranwers pilots  8) :

(https://i.postimg.cc/PqxpMyLZ/07-10-2022-20-46-25-cr.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cvpLxQB4)

(https://i.postimg.cc/7P7CXfLB/07-10-2022-20-46-56-cr.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fkzTRWmX)

The Cant-506 big bug, where's the damn bomber ...?  o_O

(https://i.postimg.cc/qMPjStcz/07-10-2022-15-06-22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VdFqbkV8)

The Cant-506 bomber after Epervier's fix ...  :P

(https://i.postimg.cc/FR0LfRdn/07-10-2022-22-08-38.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6253gBhd)

I was about to post the DL link, when Epervier told me he wasn't yet satisfied with the dead pilots/gunners/bomber, so just a little bit of patience ...  ;)

This Cant-506 was released by ... DT, in 2016, with a very weird and never seen before bomber name, that doesn't respect IL2 convention for naming pilots/gunners/bombers, hence the bug ...  :-X

By the way, could you please guys check if you can see the bomber crew member in your game ...?

Because this is what drove me nuts, I could see the bomber in Mesh Viewer, and also in the QMB window, but NOT in game ...!!!  o_O

Here, after Epervier's fix :

(https://i.postimg.cc/fLWVbKsk/07-10-2022-22-24-17.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cKjx9frN)

... this one is especially destined to Stanislao, with the upper gunner now looking back ...  :P

(https://i.postimg.cc/43xKfPsy/07-10-2022-22-24-30.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YvT2814B)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: 9078roman on October 08, 2022, 09:17:59 AM
And....

Та-Dam! Аnother mystery... why only one pilot appears. Not to mention the fact that I noticed two guys (bottom shooters), one stuck his head between the other's legs. His comrade was not going to fly to the war at all. He even decided to turn away from the machine gun. Yes, the yard is full of such mysteries. They really interfere with immersion in the game. Constant unnecessary things that take away nerves and time.


Yes, guys Bruce Willis sends his regards to everyone. Bruce Willis - goes to war. However, thanks for this update dear Haifisch, he made a very cool upgrade as usual.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zXXY3B3P/Screenshot-2.png) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QNFMC0PT/Screenshot-1.png) (https://postimg.cc/Sjp4t7mS)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Haifisch on October 08, 2022, 11:27:55 AM
And....

Та-Dam! Аnother mystery... why only one pilot appears. Not to mention the fact that I noticed two guys (bottom shooters), one stuck his head between the other's legs. His comrade was not going to fly to the war at all. He even decided to turn away from the machine gun. Yes, the yard is full of such mysteries. They really interfere with immersion in the game. Constant unnecessary things that take away nerves and time.


Yes, guys Bruce Willis sends his regards to everyone. Bruce Willis - goes to war. However, thanks for this update dear Haifisch, he made a very cool upgrade as usual.

Hi Roman
I think you have something in conflict, maybe Jeronimo's propeller mod that has his own hier.him, and that I already added his improvements to the SM-79. In my installation the two pilots come out and the gunners are further apart and look at the tail . Try disabling any mods you have on the plane or have mine load first.
Yes, I know that a gunner standing between the two machine guns is not very immersive, but Il2 1946 has its limitations, and we don't have animated pilots who go from one position to another... ;)

Cheers


(https://i.postimg.cc/L8zL97VH/il2fb-2022-10-08-19-13-06.png) (https://postimg.cc/cvLrTFjj)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jjcfN79m/il2fb-2022-10-08-19-13-19.png) (https://postimg.cc/HJJj1VT9)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on October 08, 2022, 12:10:43 PM
... OK, here is the DL link for the Cant-506 with new Ranwers pilots ...  ;)

Once unzipped, rename it by deleting the words "New pilots" so that it bears exactly the same name as the Cant 506 already in your game ...  ;)

This folder only contains the 3D, but not Epervier's new java class files + new FM that allow the bomber to be displayed, at least in our 4.09 versions ...  ;)

It also contains a Textures folder, but if you put the Cant in Ranwers PILOTS Italy folder, you won't need the Textures folder as it is already in there ...

Bugs remain, such as the Masks, but well generally seaplanes flew under 3000m ...

https://www.mediafire.com/file/wxxfjd2tsjxba6z/NEW+pilots+CANT-506.7z/file

Since nobody replied to my question, I am still wondering if the bomber is displayed, for ex in a 4.12 game version, or any other version ...  :-X

If nobody can see the bomber, then I'll post the link to the version with new java class files + new FM that Epervier made ...  ;)
.
.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Epervier on October 08, 2022, 01:07:46 PM
If nobody can see the bomber, then I'll post the link to the version with new java class files + new FM that Epervier made ...
Don't forget that the code I made for you is for "AI only"!  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on October 08, 2022, 02:04:23 PM
... OK, so here is the link to the flyable version, fixed by Epervier :

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ikq57oxxuszd0qa/Cant-506B_Fix_flyable.7z/file

Please beware that the 3D folder doesn't contain the new Ranwers pilots, but the original pilots/gunners ...

So if you want Ranwers pilots/gunners, just borrow the Pilots D0 files you'll find in my previous link ...  ;)

A big THX to Epervier for fixing the bomber bug ...!  8)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on October 08, 2022, 04:05:32 PM
 8)... many, many THX to Haifish for fixing all Masks for the Cant-506 pilot/gunners/bomber ...!  :P

(https://i.postimg.cc/J4zm8tjq/08-10-2022-21-42-47.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hh6NbDyz)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XYZbZhHB/08-10-2022-21-42-57.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9DjSKxjc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/SsGFFps3/08-10-2022-21-47-36.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zb3PK6TF)

(https://i.postimg.cc/mZ8fmRKF/08-10-2022-21-48-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c6gbHqxs)

You only need to replace the hier.him file with this one ...  ;)

Link :

https://www.mediafire.com/file/wzihec83aojb9kk/Cantz+z506B-hier.him.7z/file
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Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on October 09, 2022, 02:29:22 AM
SM-79...

The space for crew no.4 & no.5 has been adjusted as far as possible, Although it's not perfect.

I recommend you try it.

Thank you.

[Pilot4_d0]
Attaching -1 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 1 0.028600 -0.98896 -0.89711

[Pilot5_d0]
Attaching 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 -0.01862 -0.90741 -0.40102

PS : 1) This plane doesn't drop bombs, it's only good to see... ::(
       2) But on the photos of Stanislao, I can see it well bombs to SM-79. His 1946 ver. is 'vpmod'... ::( ::(
           https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,69580.msg758069.html#msg758069
       3) The problem of bombs is solved : So I thought it couldn't be impossible in my mod, so I studied about it. And it was discovered that the bomb window opened when a plane was in an automatic flight state only, then the bomb was dropped... ::( ::( ::(

(https://i.postimg.cc/Wz2NRpj1/2022-10-09-07-03-13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HchDXgVq)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on October 09, 2022, 04:42:02 AM
#NEW pilots CANT-506 + #Cantz z506B-hier.him = Perpect... ;D

to 4.12.2m SAS 5.30 & BAT 4.0.

Thank you...!!
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on October 09, 2022, 11:10:27 AM


PS : 1) This plane doesn't drop bombs, it's only good to see... ::(
       2) But on the photos of Stanislao, I can see it well bombs to SM-79. His 1946 ver. is 'vpmod'... ::( ::(
           https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,69580.msg758069.html#msg758069
     

... what you can see in Stanislao screenshots are not bombs but torpedoes ...  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on October 09, 2022, 06:48:36 PM
... what you can see in Stanislao screenshots are not bombs but torpedoes ...  ;)

But it was a stimulus that I could do it... ;D

(https://i.postimg.cc/GppRyN4S/2022-10-10-00-40-59.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NKZZhd71)

(https://i.postimg.cc/vmSsLz98/2022-10-10-00-41-55.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kV8z7WfL)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: 9078roman on October 12, 2022, 02:21:10 AM
And....

Та-Dam! Аnother mystery... why only one pilot appears. Not to mention the fact that I noticed two guys (bottom shooters), one stuck his head between the other's legs. His comrade was not going to fly to the war at all. He even decided to turn away from the machine gun. Yes, the yard is full of such mysteries. They really interfere with immersion in the game. Constant unnecessary things that take away nerves and time.


Yes, guys Bruce Willis sends his regards to everyone. Bruce Willis - goes to war. However, thanks for this update dear Haifisch, he made a very cool upgrade as usual.

Hi Roman
I think you have something in conflict, maybe Jeronimo's propeller mod that has his own hier.him, and that I already added his improvements to the SM-79. In my installation the two pilots come out and the gunners are further apart and look at the tail . Try disabling any mods you have on the plane or have mine load first.
Yes, I know that a gunner standing between the two machine guns is not very immersive, but Il2 1946 has its limitations, and we don't have animated pilots who go from one position to another... ;)

Cheers


(https://i.postimg.cc/L8zL97VH/il2fb-2022-10-08-19-13-06.png) (https://postimg.cc/cvLrTFjj)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jjcfN79m/il2fb-2022-10-08-19-13-19.png) (https://postimg.cc/HJJj1VT9)

Haifish, thanks for your reply. But I still can't figure out how to fix this problem. I don't have a separate folder even with planes (3do). Not to mention some 3d fixes. Or other "conflicts". It's very sad that I can't use the new pilots. And that they don't work. I have pure BAT Red core + Blue Edge. I can only guess where the key to my solution lies. I'm good at drawing skins) but I don't understand anything about these Hier him, and so on.
Here I read that a person has everything on version 4.2. And I also put this version. But still the problem remains. The pilots are not working, the aircraft is not displayed.
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Foghorn on October 14, 2022, 01:39:26 AM
Hi Anyone got files for the Ro.57 please.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on October 14, 2022, 01:52:16 AM
... well, the plane is here :

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,68976.msg757390.html#msg757390

and the link for new pilots here :

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,68976.msg757395.html#msg757395

and a stick fix by gunny0134 here :

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,68976.msg757448.html#msg757448
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on November 16, 2022, 11:05:50 AM
... now the CantZ501 ...  8)

There were no masks in the original folder, so I didn't put them ...  ;)

It wasn't easy to find an Italian observer crew member ...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y2ZsZCDq/16-11-2022-17-23-32.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0PHy4h1)

(https://i.postimg.cc/sgcKjjmW/16-11-2022-17-24-12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSS15Ktf)

(https://i.postimg.cc/8cmfR5jB/16-11-2022-17-24-22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5Qjt1f56)

(https://i.postimg.cc/j2MdqJD9/16-11-2022-17-41-54.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p5ntqrYY)

In this folder you'll find the "plane" and the "Textures" folders, you should already have the "cockpit" folder and java class files ...  ;)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/wuj0m1ifohch727/CantZ501.7z/file
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Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Frankiek on November 17, 2022, 02:09:58 AM
it seems something is missing:

Can't open file '3DO/Plane/TEXTURES/EYES_fr.tga'

Is this from the French pilot Mod?

:)

Thanks
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Epervier on November 17, 2022, 03:27:05 AM
Can't open file '3DO/Plane/TEXTURES/EYES_fr.tga'

Is this from the French pilot Mod?
Frequently used, this texture can be found in the following archives:
- # PILOTS France
- # PILOTS Luft
- # PILOTS USA ETO
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Frankiek on November 17, 2022, 03:55:20 AM
I also miss a 3DO/Plane/MC-200_III(it)/Cilinders_D0.msh mentioned in the new hier.him that for sure is not in the stock MC-200 and must be part of some other mod (not the most obvious ones and that is also not present in your MC-200 series do you know from where it could come from?
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on November 17, 2022, 03:59:17 AM
it seems something is missing:

Can't open file '3DO/Plane/TEXTURES/EYES_fr.tga'

Is this from the French pilot Mod?

:)

Thanks

... sorry but I just checked each and every .mat and .msh that is related with the new Italian pilots that I added, and couldn't find a single one that needs the "Eyes_fr.tga" texture your log is talking about ...  :-X

So I have no idea why you get this alarm ...  :-X
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on November 17, 2022, 04:07:41 AM
I also miss a 3DO/Plane/MC-200_III(it)/Cilinders_D0.msh mentioned in the new hier.him that for sure is not in the stock MC-200 and must be part of some other mod (not the most obvious ones and that is also not present in your MC-200 series do you know from where it could come from?

... you can try this :

Open the new hier.him, scroll down to :

[Cilinders_D0]
Mesh Cilinders_D0
Parent CF_D0
Attaching 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 3.14949 4.27754e-007 -0.34167

... deactivate that msh by adding a double slash, just like that :

//[Cilinders_D0]
Mesh Cilinders_D0
Parent CF_D0
Attaching 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 3.14949 4.27754e-007 -0.34167

 save and exit and check what happens now ...
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Frankiek on November 17, 2022, 04:25:07 AM
Yes that is what I did initially but now I have extracted the miissing Mc-200 mesh from BAT. My problem is that I was trying to verify the Italian pilot mod in my basic MODact5.3 thinkng that it would be easier to identify problems there. My mistake it would have been much easier to test this beautiful mod in BAT-WAW
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on November 17, 2022, 07:18:42 AM

 ;DThank you Mick for the choice of CantZ501, as always after your addition this Italian seaplane has made an impressive leap forward!  8) 

Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on November 17, 2022, 07:23:54 AM

 :-[  I hate asking others for what I don't know how to do..
There is an Italian aircraft that is particularly close to my heart,
the Ca-311 and Ca-311M, if you ever get around to it it would be great if you could include it among your next projects....



 
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on November 17, 2022, 07:35:10 AM
... many THX for the idea, Stany, I was short of projects but now I know what my next attempt will look like ...  8)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on November 17, 2022, 07:45:54 AM

 :D  ;D   ;D   Grazie   Grazie   GRAZIE  ! 


 
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on November 17, 2022, 11:11:51 AM
... first attempt, a lot of work to do yet ...

I am not very satisfied with the top gunner, as his parachute is slightly protruding in the turret, but we don't have much choice with Italian standing gunners, and there is none without a parachute ...  :-X

Also, like for the stock one, the pilot's boots can't touch the pedals ...  :-[

But well, these Italian pilots/gunners are so much better than the stock ones ...  8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/SRHqk2sp/17-11-2022-17-32-32.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wqmx74g9)

(https://i.postimg.cc/wj8HrmZX/17-11-2022-17-32-44.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzL9hzkq)

(https://i.postimg.cc/SKQKZ9YZ/17-11-2022-17-33-33.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZM8rsTb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/pVjPJC1W/17-11-2022-17-42-49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CdFyFGgX)

(https://i.postimg.cc/8CsSJm6V/17-11-2022-17-43-31.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DWVDRs6C)

DL link probably tomorrow as I still need to fix all bloody masks ...  :-X
.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on November 18, 2022, 03:23:57 AM
... well I gave up trying to fit the masks to the crew, after a lot of time consuming trial & error attempts ... :-X

So, if there's someone out there, who fancies doing it, he or she'll be my hero of the day ...!  8)

DL link with Ca-311 and Ca-311M + Textures folder :

https://www.mediafire.com/file/jflyaqxxl50mcrd/Ca-311+&+311M.7z/file
.

Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Epervier on November 18, 2022, 04:27:46 AM
So, if there's someone out there, who fancies doing it, he or she'll be my hero of the day ...!
:P
CA-311
[HMask2_D0]
...
...
Attaching 0 -1 0 0 0 -1 1 0 0   0.0 -0.09 0.65


[Hmask3_D0]
...
...
Attaching 0 -0.906308 -0.422618 0 0.422618 -0.906308 1 0 0   0.0 -0.40 0.33


CA-311M
See post #149 !
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on November 18, 2022, 04:57:13 AM
... well since you already were my hero of the year on this planet, you now have won the hero of all times title, in the whole galaxy ...!!!  8)

Many THX, amigo ...!  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on November 18, 2022, 07:31:23 AM
EDIT ..... EDIT ..... EDIT ..... EDIT ..... EDIT ...

New link with ALL FIXES (all missing masks included), use it instead of the previous ones ...  8)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/xdzmsn90zb87i8s/Fixed+Ca-311+&+Ca-311M.7z/file

(https://i.postimg.cc/htWtnn9F/18-11-2022-14-11-58-cr.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D86TQtj5)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MTyhyknB/18-11-2022-14-15-24.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MMpPSFbZ)

In case this "mod" doesn't work for you, probably because you are using another version of the Ca-311 & Ca-311M, try to rename "my" folders the same way as your version, for ex:  Ca-311(Multi1)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on November 18, 2022, 11:03:10 AM
... while I was at it, now the Ca-309 & Ca-310 ...  8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/htMR2ByL/18-11-2022-17-42-14.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSWNztK0)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QM5kXX25/18-11-2022-17-42-43.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67WGcN55)

BEWARE : ... there is NO Textures folder with the 309 & 310, simply because it is the very same as the one that already comes with the Ca-311 & Ca-311M ...

https://www.mediafire.com/file/19tq0lonsmsh5mi/Ca-309+&+Ca-310+new+pilots.7z/file
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Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on November 19, 2022, 11:45:48 PM
Thank you always, dear Mick & master Epervier...!!

(https://i.postimg.cc/2yXYg6NG/image.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Epervier on November 20, 2022, 04:25:16 AM
... while I was at it, now the Ca-309 & Ca-310 ...
Ca-309/310/311/311M... ok !
Now you have to do a lot more... Ca-133/133T/148/Br-20/CR-25/G-12T/RS-14/...
In short, you still have several months of work to do!  :D   ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on November 20, 2022, 04:35:04 AM
... two of these have already been done by Ranwers, the Fiat-20 and RS-14 ...  8)

Yesterday I did the Ca-133/133T, but their 3D is ...  :-X ... so not even sure I'll release them ...  :-[
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on November 20, 2022, 09:46:53 AM

 ;D The new crews FOR Caproni Ca-309, 310, 311 and 311M,  work wonderfully in my 4.12 VP modpack!   
Many thanks to Mick, Gabriel and of course Ranwers ! 

Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on November 21, 2022, 01:01:41 AM
... well, following Epervier's urgent desire ( :P), here is the Fiat-12 with new Italian pilots from Ranwers, with white MTO helmets for a change ...  ;)

No Textures folder this time, so you need to put it inside your Pilots Italy folder, where all the needed textures already are ... ;)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/gnq08po6th8u1ao/Fiat-G12.7z/file

(https://i.postimg.cc/44jqv37S/20-11-2022-18-40-40.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K4r0xx5P)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on November 21, 2022, 06:51:13 AM

 ;D   Yesssss!   You give me a great gift!  This magnificent Italian transport plane with your crew flies like a bijoux!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!   

Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Epervier on November 21, 2022, 08:41:18 AM
Yesssss!   You give me a great gift!  This magnificent Italian transport plane with your crew flies like a bijoux!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
You see, Mick? You've made someone happy!  :D   ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on November 21, 2022, 09:34:05 AM
... yep, at least one person is happy, my friend Stany ...!  8)

I know that you are not using these pilots/gunners yourself ...  ;)

Next step, the Fiat CR-25 ...  ;)

CR are the initials of the Italian engineer Celestino Rosatelli that designed the Fiat-25 ...  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on November 21, 2022, 09:59:52 AM

 ;D ;D ;D    ;)    ! ! !
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on November 21, 2022, 10:47:14 AM
I'm definitely using these...!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va0hBYKZnkQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va0hBYKZnkQ)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on November 22, 2022, 07:42:02 AM
... well, THX to the help of my friend Epervier who managed to find the, up till now, invisible folder of my Fiat CR-25 in my own Mods folder (:P) ... here is the promised Fiat Celestino Rosatelli with Ranwers Italian pilots ...  ;)

BEWARE : no Textures folder again, so you need to put it inside your Pilots Italy folder, the Textures folder is already in there ...  ;)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/hfha92pp24sc2ri/CR-25.7z/file

(https://i.postimg.cc/kgKcbTvH/22-11-2022-14-21-23.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mPZCxNq3)

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1vvCc0D/22-11-2022-14-21-29.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sM2QHfQw)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on November 22, 2022, 08:37:22 AM
 :D   GRAZIE  !   But how much do I adore you, both? !!!!! 
Also on the part of Celestino Rosatelli...! ;)

Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on November 22, 2022, 07:57:55 PM
... well, THX to the help of my friend Epervier who managed to find the, up till now, invisible folder of my Fiat CR-25 in my own Mods folder (:P) ... here is the promised Fiat Celestino Rosatelli with Ranwers Italian pilots ...  ;)
BEWARE : no Textures folder again, so you need to put it inside your Pilots Italy folder, the Textures folder is already in there ...  ;)

For the users 4.12.2m, BAT 4.0

You need to install the file of this plane.

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,64390.msg708431.html#msg708431

And rename Mick's file to 'CR_25-FB(multi1)'

Thank you, dear Mick...!!

(https://i.postimg.cc/Qx9s5rWT/2022-11-23-02-46-52.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJhwF3dS)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on December 21, 2022, 04:03:12 PM
... two different versions of the pilot's helmet, brown leather and white fabric for the Re-2001 OR, naval version, available here if you don't already have it :

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,68761.0.html

New pilots :

Version with brown leather helmet :

https://www.mediafire.com/file/98l0tjr3waytap0/Casque+cuir+marron.7z/file

Version with white fabric helmet :

https://www.mediafire.com/file/xf5vytomm5w7l9s/Casque+tissu+blanc.7z/file

(https://i.postimg.cc/c4yJFJRZ/21-12-2022-21-24-50.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HjzHxdvP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/pdn7cPYb/21-12-2022-21-26-27.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2qr2VRK2)

(https://i.postimg.cc/C1G2YJQc/21-12-2022-21-28-57.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MMG5m0xB)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ydHffc8c/21-12-2022-21-30-44.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bGmHrGbw)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on December 21, 2022, 11:25:13 PM
Re-2001_OR, Stick Mounting...!!

1. Required files (from cockpit/ Re2001OR folder)
   stick.mat
   stick.tga
   Z_brakes.msh
   Z_stick01.msh

2. Copy and paste(overwrite) the above 4 files into the 'plane/ Re2001OR' folder.

3. Copy and paste the value of the stick position below at the bottom of the 'hier.him' file (open with notepad) in 'plane/ Re2001OR' folder.

[Z_stick01]
Mesh Z_stick01
Parent Pilot1_D0
Attaching 0 0.65 0 0 0 0.65 0.65 0 0 -0.00743 -0.34005 -0.166474
[Z_brakes]
Mesh Z_brakes
Parent Z_stick01
Attaching 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 -0.036335 0.895768 -0.000072

Thank you.

(https://i.postimg.cc/g04VHX8z/2022-12-22-05-35-32.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SX2YyKg3)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on December 22, 2022, 12:38:43 AM
... many THX for the missing stick, gunny, now the Re-2001 OR is easier to fly ...!  8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/k52FvMxW/22-12-2022-10-37-20.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jWr7sb3j)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on December 22, 2022, 12:43:01 AM
... coming soon, for X'Mas ...  :P

Savoia Marchetti-82P

(https://i.postimg.cc/HW38FBRk/21-12-2022-11-14-27.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grX0ZqGC)

Savoia Marchetti-81B

(https://i.postimg.cc/KYX1tVkJ/21-12-2022-12-01-46.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9DpXhLB7)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: raf1659 on December 22, 2022, 04:53:55 AM
Where is the Savoia Marchetti-82 ?

I have BAT 4.2.2 and did not find it  :(
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on December 22, 2022, 05:44:51 AM
... you won't find it here, same with this version of the SM-81B, that's why I'll post the entire plane, with java class files, skins folders (by Stanislao) etc ...  ;)

(https://i.postimg.cc/284S3Yn8/22-12-2022-12-33-24.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ppLH1g0g)

(https://i.postimg.cc/qqwDZg9v/22-12-2022-12-33-37.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sGBJMfjk)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on December 22, 2022, 05:52:25 AM
... skins folders, by Stanislao, to start with ...  8)

Please note that these SM-81B skins are not compatible with the other versions of the 81B that you may already have in your game ...  ;)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/sb9bfcyujkgv28u/SM-81B.7z/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/x9zktz7l1efqi41/SM-82P.7z/file
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: raf1659 on December 22, 2022, 06:40:50 AM
Thanks Mick !!  :)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on December 22, 2022, 07:47:13 AM

 ;D  A big thank you Mick!  Everything works perfectly now!    8)


Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on December 22, 2022, 08:07:41 AM
... OK guys, looks like Santa is not late this year, so here are the DL links for the SM-81B and SM-82P ...  8)

But first things first ...!  ;)

Credits :

All Italian pilots by Ranwers

SM-81B and SM-82P original mods by Dimon

All skins by  Stanislao

The two lateral SM-82P gunners now facing their hatch and not each other, courtesy of Epervier

You need carmaster's Hi-Res DLLs

Please note that this SM-81B version is totally different from the ones you may have in game (by DreamK I believe)

Please note that the SM-82P is flyable

There are no Stationary, so if some merciful soul feels like it ...  8)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/jim746bzsu51tbm/Savoia-Marchetti_SM82-P.7z/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/13qfwp36so4i0y8/SM81_B.7z/file

Link SSP : https://www.mediafire.com/file/1dlm1dki0u8osvl/Stationary_SM-81B_SM-82P.7z/file


(https://i.postimg.cc/j2twh2sS/22-12-2022-14-37-39.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wy4jq6yC)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MZ5vSW61/22-12-2022-14-37-57.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/py92QMnd)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Frankiek on December 22, 2022, 11:20:29 AM
So great thanks a lot to all of you and I think that we will need the help of a famous "rebel"
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Epervier on December 22, 2022, 12:08:53 PM
Done !

Link for SSP added in Mick post !  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on December 22, 2022, 12:52:14 PM
 ...  8)

... guys, you have no idea how pleasant it is to have such friends as Epervier and Stanislao ...!  :P

Many THX for the Stationary files, my friend ...!  :D

(https://i.postimg.cc/4xJ9B4Tm/22-12-2022-22-43-53.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qz5q7TqT)

(https://i.postimg.cc/NjJ5D14z/22-12-2022-22-44-10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zyhzXH4C)free image hosting (https://postimages.org/fr/)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on December 23, 2022, 09:23:17 AM
... in case you DLed the Fiat BR-20M here are skins by Stanislao ...

https://www.mediafire.com/file/8nwfaj5n5phsc1p/BR.20M.7z/file

... and here is the plane ...

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,68976.msg757237.html#msg757237
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on December 31, 2022, 05:56:54 AM
The SM-81 from Mıck on reply 173 dıdnt lıke my BAT Flashpoınt

Code: [Select]
Error loading FM called 'flightmodels/sm81px.fmd'!
It Cannot be Loaded from 'sm81_fm' File
*** This was the Reason of your 6024107470564r 70TD ***
FM Loading General Exception!
Warning, the "FlightModels/SM81PX.fmd:SM81_FM" cannot be loaded from "sm81_fm" File
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.clsBigArrestorPlane(AirportCarrier.java:548)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.isPlaneContainsArrestor(AirportCarrier.java:518)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:2577)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:3679)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:199)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1779)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1475)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:212)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:405)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
Error loading FM called 'flightmodels/sm81ar.fmd'!
It Cannot be Loaded from 'sm81_fm' File
*** This was the Reason of your 6024107470564r 70TD ***
FM Loading General Exception!
Warning, the "FlightModels/SM81AR.fmd:SM81_FM" cannot be loaded from "sm81_fm" File
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.clsBigArrestorPlane(AirportCarrier.java:548)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.isPlaneContainsArrestor(AirportCarrier.java:518)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:2577)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:3679)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:199)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1779)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1475)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:212)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:405)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
Error loading FM called 'flightmodels/sm81gr.fmd'!
It Cannot be Loaded from 'sm81_fm' File
*** This was the Reason of your 6024107470564r 70TD ***
FM Loading General Exception!
Warning, the "FlightModels/SM81GR.fmd:SM81_FM" cannot be loaded from "sm81_fm" File
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.clsBigArrestorPlane(AirportCarrier.java:548)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.isPlaneContainsArrestor(AirportCarrier.java:518)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:2577)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:3679)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:199)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1779)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1475)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:212)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:405)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
Error loading FM called 'flightmodels/sm81px.fmd'!
It Cannot be Loaded from 'sm81_fm' File
*** This was the Reason of your 6024107470564r 70TD ***
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.clsBigArrestorPlane(AirportCarrier.java:548)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.isPlaneContainsArrestor(AirportCarrier.java:518)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:2577)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:3679)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:199)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1779)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1475)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:212)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:405)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
Error loading FM called 'flightmodels/sm81px.fmd'!
It Cannot be Loaded from 'sm81_fm' File
*** This was the Reason of your 6024107470564r 70TD ***
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.clsBigArrestorPlane(AirportCarrier.java:548)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.isPlaneContainsArrestor(AirportCarrier.java:518)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:2577)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:3679)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:199)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1779)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1475)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:212)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:405)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
Error loading FM called 'flightmodels/sm81px.fmd'!
It Cannot be Loaded from 'sm81_fm' File
*** This was the Reason of your 6024107470564r 70TD ***
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.clsBigArrestorPlane(AirportCarrier.java:548)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.isPlaneContainsArrestor(AirportCarrier.java:518)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:2577)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:3679)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:199)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1779)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1475)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:212)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:405)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
Error loading FM called 'flightmodels/sm81px.fmd'!
It Cannot be Loaded from 'sm81_fm' File
*** This was the Reason of your 6024107470564r 70TD ***
Main begin: null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick$ItemAir.<init>(GUIQuick.java:978)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:2571)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:3679)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:199)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1779)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1475)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:212)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:405)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)

[Dec 31, 2022 2:51:15 PM UTC +2] -------------- END log session -------------

Edited by Epervier !
Please use the "code" tags!
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on December 31, 2022, 08:01:13 AM
... well, obviously a Flight Model issue, so java code in there, sorry but I am not a java guru at all ...  :-X

Like stated in the credits section, originally this is a Dimon mod, and I believe it is compatible with a 4.12 based game version ...

May be some java guru will see your post and make a fix ... in 2023 ...!  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Epervier on December 31, 2022, 08:12:33 AM
The SM-81 from Mıck on reply 173 dıdnt lıke my BAT Flashpoınt
The common mistake is to provide a complete "hier.him" !
In this case the mod becomes specific to a version of the game or plane.
It is better to take only the lines concerning the implementation of new pilots and to modify your "hier.him".
This is easy for BAT users and for those who have installed Selector v4.01 or higher as they can extract the data from the game.
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: ansons on December 31, 2022, 08:56:45 AM
Hi Mick, I am playing BAT 4.2.2 Hotfix 3, I have the same issue. What is strange is that the SM82 and the BR20 work fine in BAT, only the SM81 FM is bad. wrong file ?
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on December 31, 2022, 10:10:33 AM
... well, the SM81 FM that comes with the mod works in my 4.09 game version ...  ;)

I wrote :

"I believe it is compatible with a 4.12 based game version"

... because I wasn't 100 % sure ...  ;)

The problem, if you only borrow the pilots/gunners + Heads + Masks of this version and put them in a different version of the SM-81 (by DreamK I believe), is that the Attaching values of this hier.him may be totally wrong, with, as a result pilots/gunners not being placed where they should be, and with the correct stance ...

Besides, the 3D of Dimon's version of the SM-81B  is totally different ...

(https://i.postimg.cc/FK6pKsDN/31-12-2022-17-06-08.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CZjkP03Q)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on December 31, 2022, 10:39:00 AM
The SM-81 from Mıck on reply 173 dıdnt lıke my BAT Flashpoınt
The common mistake is to provide a complete "hier.him" !
In this case the mod becomes specific to a version of the game or plane.

It is better to take only the lines concerning the implementation of new pilots and to modify your "hier.him".
This is easy for BAT users and for those who have installed Selector v4.01 or higher as they can extract the data from the game.


... true, that's why I wrote :

"Please note that this SM-81B version is totally different from the ones you may have in game (by DreamK I believe)"

... in fact I had no other choice than provide the whole plane folder with included FM, since this SM-81B is totally different (and much better, 3D wise) ...  ;)

Only a java guru can "fix" the FM that prevents this SM-81B from flying in BAT ...  ;)

(https://i.postimg.cc/RZt65Syj/31-12-2022-17-05-02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xX0TL20R)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Epervier on December 31, 2022, 12:54:29 PM
Only a java guru can "fix" the FM that prevents this SM-81B from flying in BAT ...
The problem with your SM-81B is that it uses the same external FM name as the one included in BAT and which concerns, unfortunately, other SM-81s!
So here is the fix for BAT users!
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on January 01, 2023, 01:59:01 AM
About crew no.4 of Savoia Marchetti_SM81_B :

 - SM-81B(Dimon ver) or SM.81B(Dreamk ver ?)

Crew no.4 is ruining a good painting by master Ranwers.
(https://i.postimg.cc/50xfRXY1/2023-01-01-06-06-49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLcmLXFP)

So I had Ranwers' other pilot take a posture that fits the turret2A. Then he became a levitating Superman...!!
(https://i.postimg.cc/TwGnNJJw/888.png) (https://postimg.cc/Ty7ypmSM)

I put a box in front of him to cover his levitating posture.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kgK6rt4t/889.png) (https://postimg.cc/XrN7dq9V)

It's the result. But I don't like it. The no.4's posture is too high. But it seems inevitable at the present... ::( ::( ::(
(https://i.postimg.cc/YSVChrhw/2023-01-01-08-18-06.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LqtpWMty)

This is just for fun... ;D

Happy New Year for all Modders and users...!!!
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: ansons on January 01, 2023, 03:17:40 AM
Hi Epervier, Thanks for the fix, now I can get the SM81.B in the game but only as AI plane not as the SM82_P and the BR20_M which I can fly ...  Any way to make the SM81.B flyable using the SM82_P cockpit ?
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on January 01, 2023, 03:58:48 AM
Hi Epervier ditto ansons comments thanks for the fix. Happy New Year. I believe the SM81 is AI only at this stage ansons
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on January 01, 2023, 04:16:40 AM
About crew no.4 of Savoia Marchetti_SM81_B :

 - SM-81B(Dimon ver) or SM.81B(Dreamk ver ?)

Crew no.4 is ruining a good painting by master Ranwers.


So I had Ranwers' other pilot take a posture that fits the turret2A. Then he became a levitating Superman...!!


I put a box in front of him to cover his levitating posture.


It's the result. But I don't like it. The no.4's posture is too high. But it seems inevitable at the present... ::( ::( ::(


This is just for fun... ;D

Happy New Year for all Modders and users...!!!


... yep, we have the same problem with the P108B ...  :-X

(https://i.postimg.cc/MKdxVLkd/24-09-2022-15-08-17.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gnXfPN2Z)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Epervier on January 01, 2023, 05:43:50 AM
Hi Epervier, Thanks for the fix, now I can get the SM81.B in the game but only as AI plane not as the SM82_P and the BR20_M which I can fly ...  Any way to make the SM81.B flyable using the SM82_P cockpit ?

Hi Epervier ditto ansons comments thanks for the fix. Happy New Year. I believe the SM81 is AI only at this stage ansons
Tks !
I only corrected Mick's archive!
I don't use this SM-81B Mod or the new Ranwers pilots.
Only Mick will be able to tell you if there is a flyable version.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on January 01, 2023, 06:06:51 AM
... yep, there's a flyable version, made by CWatson, and 4.12 FM edited by Kelso (see inside 4.09-4.12 FM section) ...

Here it is, BUT without Ranwers pilots, if you want them, you'll need to borrow them from the previous non flyable version (+ edit hier.him accordingly)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/aj376zjuoltvej1/SM81_B-Flyable-Dimon.7z/file

EDIT :

If you want the flyable SM81B with Ranwers pilots + new belly gunner from gunny0134, go here ...  8)

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,68976.msg763283.html#msg763283
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on January 01, 2023, 07:44:13 AM
I changed the posture of the crew no.4 a little and it got better...!!

you(=everyone) can test it if you want.

The file of crew no.4 can be obtained from the 'CantZ1007mono' folder.

If you think you need a bag, I'll give it to you as a gift... ;)

Thank you.

* This position value could be applied to both models of SM_81B. And D1 is another problem.

[Pilot4_D0]
Attaching 0 0 0.794 -0.790979 -0.069202 0 0.069202 -0.790979 0 -0.036 0.055 0.0

[HMask4_D0]
Attaching 0 -0.93359 -0.358372 0 0.358369 -0.933584 1 0 0 0 -0.39421 0.322738

(https://i.postimg.cc/wvWYzTyL/2023-01-01-14-18-09.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hz75bn0t)

(https://i.postimg.cc/qRvW1VbR/2023-01-01-14-23-01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/McgsG482)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: ansons on January 01, 2023, 10:07:25 AM
Hi Mick, thanks for the flyable version of the SM81-B, it works fine in my BAT install. However, I tried unsuccessfully to implement the Ranwers pilots, is there a procedure somewhere to teach how to do that ? I tried to copy/paste the pilot_xxx.msh , mask and .mat files, modified the hier.him file  but no luck so far...
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on January 01, 2023, 10:51:38 AM
... the easiest way to do it, is to replace the flyable "SM81B" folder that is inside the "plane" folder, with the "SM81B" folder that is inside the "plane" folder of the non flyable version previously released (with Ranwers pilots) + the "Textures" folder" ...  ;)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on January 01, 2023, 11:12:45 AM
... here you are, flyable SM81B + Ranwers pilots + new belly gunner from gunny0134 ...  ;)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/aj376zjuoltvej1/SM81_B-Flyable-Dimon.7z/file

(https://i.postimg.cc/3R0Fk0vj/01-01-2023-18-01-49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0Mxw3QZr)photo upload (https://postimages.org/fr/)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: ansons on January 02, 2023, 03:51:14 AM
Hi Mick, Thanks a lot ! Have a nice day !
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on January 12, 2023, 07:27:05 AM
Hı Mıck  I ınstalled your latest flyable SM81B from dımon and although ıt doesnt cause a 60% CTD I cannot get ıt to open ın my QMB for skıns/markıngs I clıck customızatıon and nothıng happens?
BAT WAW Flashpoınt
Cheers,
Mıck

Hmmm! Weırd ıts strangely the same for the SM82P too???
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on January 12, 2023, 08:03:52 AM
... well maybe you don't have the right skins folders ...?

The SM-81B 3D is totally different from the versions we already had, so totally different new skins are needed ...  ;)

Same with the SM-82P, but we didn't already have that one ...

So, you'll find all necessary skin folders here :

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,68976.msg762669.html#msg762669
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on January 14, 2023, 01:11:13 AM
No I have the skın folders ın place the customızatıon screen should open wıth or wıthout skıns anyways? The a/c just doesnt appear at all?
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on January 14, 2023, 02:43:26 AM
... then what does your log say ...???
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on January 14, 2023, 04:23:54 AM
Maybe...FM file problem (for 4.12 users) of Dimon ver. ??

  - IL2 AIR C****** site...!!
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Epervier on January 14, 2023, 04:54:16 AM
While tinkering I discovered that BAT uses a 410 button type and 409/412 type external FMs.
The LOG will be able to tell you more.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Frankiek on January 14, 2023, 07:18:27 AM
I think that bat is still using the sas 10.5 button as a base and then all external fm
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on January 16, 2023, 12:43:45 AM
Apologıes guys I dıdnt thınk thıs would show up ın the Log, so heres the errant entrıes;

INTERNAL ERROR: Can't open file '3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him'
WARNING: object '3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him' of class 'HIM' not loaded
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him

java.lang.RuntimeException: INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him

INTERNAL ERROR: Can't open file '3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him'
WARNING: object '3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him' of class 'HIM' not loaded
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him

java.lang.RuntimeException: INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Epervier on January 16, 2023, 03:49:51 AM
Apologıes guys I dıdnt thınk thıs would show up ın the Log, so heres the errant entrıes;
Incomplete LOG!
You must have other lines that explain why these errors occur!



- Read how to get the log here (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13457.0.html), and the instant log here (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,19308.0.html) (Except for BAT which contains InstantLog).

- When you want to post only the relevant parts from the log
read here (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=39780.0) how to do this. (code option!)

- If you want to post all lines of the logfile we suggest to use https://pastebin.com/
to paste your log and then paste the link here which you got from them.
Read and see here (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,39780.msg627220.html#msg627220) how to do this.

Note: It is preferable to provide the LOG in its entirety!

Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Frankiek on January 16, 2023, 08:29:58 AM
Apologıes guys I dıdnt thınk thıs would show up ın the Log, so heres the errant entrıes;

INTERNAL ERROR: Can't open file '3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him'
WARNING: object '3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him' of class 'HIM' not loaded
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him

java.lang.RuntimeException: INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him

INTERNAL ERROR: Can't open file '3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him'
WARNING: object '3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him' of class 'HIM' not loaded
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him

java.lang.RuntimeException: INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him

If you go further down the log it should tell you  which file/s is causing the problem in the hier.him
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on January 18, 2023, 12:29:17 AM
Ok I know how to do a log guys! I thought those entrıes would be enough to shed lıght on the ıssue. Heres the rest from the entrıes (the upper portıon of the log looks ırrelevant) I dıd see thıs though;

WARNING: TTF library: Invalid displacement.
ScreenMode Library Version 0.01 loaded successfully.
*Warning: the "sm81b_fm" File Doesnt Exist! Check your Configuration.
**Plane FM will be loaded from placeholder: "FlightModels/Bf-109F-2.fmd"! Not from the expected one.

WARNING: TTF library: Invalid displacement.

INTERNAL ERROR: Can't open file '3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him'
WARNING: object '3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him' of class 'HIM' not loaded
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him

java.lang.RuntimeException: INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3DO/Plane/SM-82/hier.him

   at com.maddox.il2.engine.HierMesh.Load(Native Method)
   at com.maddox.il2.engine.HierMesh.<init>(HierMesh.java:596)
   at com.maddox.il2.engine.ActorHMesh.setMesh(ActorHMesh.java:89)
   at com.maddox.il2.engine.ActorHMesh.<init>(ActorHMesh.java:111)
   at com.maddox.il2.objects.ActorSimpleHMesh.<init>(ActorSimpleHMesh.java:26)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIAirArming.setMesh(GUIAirArming.java:1750)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIAirArming._enter(GUIAirArming.java:1270)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameState.enterPush(GameState.java:31)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameStateStack.push(GameStateStack.java:55)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameStateStack.push(GameStateStack.java:44)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick$WButtonArming.notify(GUIQuick.java:395)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowDialogControl._notify(GWindowDialogControl.java:51)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIButton._notify(GUIButton.java:18)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowDialogControl.mouseClick(GWindowDialogControl.java:86)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIButton.mouseClick(GUIButton.java:22)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindow._mouseButton(GWindow.java:556)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowRoot.doMouseButton(GWindowRoot.java:251)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowManager.doMouseButton(GWindowManager.java:69)
   at com.maddox.il2.engine.GUIWindowManager.msgMouseButton(GUIWindowManager.java:126)
   at com.maddox.rts.MsgMouse.invokeListener(MsgMouse.java:98)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message._send(Message.java:1217)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToObject(Message.java:1191)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToArray(Message.java:1147)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendTo(Message.java:1128)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.trySend(Message.java:1115)
   at com.maddox.rts.Time.loopMessages(Time.java:180)
   at com.maddox.rts.RTSConf.loopMsgs(RTSConf.java:101)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.loopApp(MainWin3D.java:131)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:422)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIAirArming.prepareSkin(GUIAirArming.java:2184)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIAirArming._enter(GUIAirArming.java:1273)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameState.enterPush(GameState.java:31)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameStateStack.push(GameStateStack.java:55)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameStateStack.push(GameStateStack.java:44)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick$WButtonArming.notify(GUIQuick.java:395)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowDialogControl._notify(GWindowDialogControl.java:51)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIButton._notify(GUIButton.java:18)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowDialogControl.mouseClick(GWindowDialogControl.java:86)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIButton.mouseClick(GUIButton.java:22)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindow._mouseButton(GWindow.java:556)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowRoot.doMouseButton(GWindowRoot.java:251)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowManager.doMouseButton(GWindowManager.java:69)
   at com.maddox.il2.engine.GUIWindowManager.msgMouseButton(GUIWindowManager.java:126)
   at com.maddox.rts.MsgMouse.invokeListener(MsgMouse.java:98)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message._send(Message.java:1217)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToObject(Message.java:1191)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToArray(Message.java:1147)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendTo(Message.java:1128)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.trySend(Message.java:1115)
   at com.maddox.rts.Time.loopMessages(Time.java:180)
   at com.maddox.rts.RTSConf.loopMsgs(RTSConf.java:101)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.loopApp(MainWin3D.java:131)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:422)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
INTERNAL ERROR: Can't open file '3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him'
WARNING: object '3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him' of class 'HIM' not loaded
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him

java.lang.RuntimeException: INTERNAL ERROR: HierMeshObj: Can't load HIM 3do/plane/SM81B/hier.him

   at com.maddox.il2.engine.HierMesh.Load(Native Method)
   at com.maddox.il2.engine.HierMesh.<init>(HierMesh.java:596)
   at com.maddox.il2.engine.ActorHMesh.setMesh(ActorHMesh.java:89)
   at com.maddox.il2.engine.ActorHMesh.<init>(ActorHMesh.java:111)
   at com.maddox.il2.objects.ActorSimpleHMesh.<init>(ActorSimpleHMesh.java:26)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIAirArming.setMesh(GUIAirArming.java:1750)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIAirArming._enter(GUIAirArming.java:1270)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameState.enterPush(GameState.java:31)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameStateStack.push(GameStateStack.java:55)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameStateStack.push(GameStateStack.java:44)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick$WButtonArming.notify(GUIQuick.java:395)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowDialogControl._notify(GWindowDialogControl.java:51)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIButton._notify(GUIButton.java:18)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowDialogControl.mouseClick(GWindowDialogControl.java:86)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIButton.mouseClick(GUIButton.java:22)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindow._mouseButton(GWindow.java:556)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowRoot.doMouseButton(GWindowRoot.java:251)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowManager.doMouseButton(GWindowManager.java:69)
   at com.maddox.il2.engine.GUIWindowManager.msgMouseButton(GUIWindowManager.java:126)
   at com.maddox.rts.MsgMouse.invokeListener(MsgMouse.java:98)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message._send(Message.java:1217)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToObject(Message.java:1191)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToArray(Message.java:1147)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendTo(Message.java:1128)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.trySend(Message.java:1115)
   at com.maddox.rts.Time.loopMessages(Time.java:180)
   at com.maddox.rts.RTSConf.loopMsgs(RTSConf.java:101)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.loopApp(MainWin3D.java:131)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:422)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIAirArming.prepareSkin(GUIAirArming.java:2184)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIAirArming._enter(GUIAirArming.java:1273)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameState.enterPush(GameState.java:31)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameStateStack.push(GameStateStack.java:55)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameStateStack.push(GameStateStack.java:44)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick$WButtonArming.notify(GUIQuick.java:395)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowDialogControl._notify(GWindowDialogControl.java:51)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIButton._notify(GUIButton.java:18)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowDialogControl.mouseClick(GWindowDialogControl.java:86)
   at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIButton.mouseClick(GUIButton.java:22)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindow._mouseButton(GWindow.java:556)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowRoot.doMouseButton(GWindowRoot.java:251)
   at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowManager.doMouseButton(GWindowManager.java:69)
   at com.maddox.il2.engine.GUIWindowManager.msgMouseButton(GUIWindowManager.java:126)
   at com.maddox.rts.MsgMouse.invokeListener(MsgMouse.java:98)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message._send(Message.java:1217)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToObject(Message.java:1191)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToArray(Message.java:1147)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendTo(Message.java:1128)
   at com.maddox.rts.Message.trySend(Message.java:1115)
   at com.maddox.rts.Time.loopMessages(Time.java:180)
   at com.maddox.rts.RTSConf.loopMsgs(RTSConf.java:101)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.loopApp(MainWin3D.java:131)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:422)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)

[Jan 16, 2023 9:40:48 AM UTC +2] -------------- END log session -------------
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on January 18, 2023, 12:46:28 AM
... well, this line (that didn't show in your previous log extract ...) says it all ...

*Warning: the "sm81b_fm" File Doesnt Exist! Check your Configuration.

The mod comes with several FMs, to be used according to your game version ...

(https://i.postimg.cc/yYt5X1wJ/81.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

For instance, open the -4.09-4.12fm folder and copy and paste the FM inside to replace the default one (SM81_FM) that is at the root of the mod folder ...
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Frankiek on January 18, 2023, 07:12:41 AM
Most likely you have a bad install of this mod so IL2 is not finding the files he needs to load the plane.

It would also help if you could tell us which version of the game you have and the type of mod setup  (BAT, VP, Modact etc etc) unfortunately the cristal ball was left behind during the last moving.
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on January 18, 2023, 02:27:43 PM
Try applying Kelso's fix file...!

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,68976.msg763961.html#msg763961

Go to ''IL2 AIR C***** Site (aircrafts multi engine section)''...!!

I'm on 4.12.2m, BAT 4.0

(https://i.postimg.cc/5N9wszTx/1001.png) (https://postimg.cc/HjKcxrTK)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on January 18, 2023, 10:55:42 PM
FIXED

User Error as you mıght have guessed guys! I had somehow duplıcated the fıle structure for both AC ın dıfferent places (dont ask  ;D)

Thanks for the help
Mıck
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Frankiek on February 09, 2023, 02:02:00 AM

(https://i.postimg.cc/vBYYv7mw/2023-02-09-06-01-38.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xkZVfzH6)

So one more thanks  :)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Frankiek on February 13, 2023, 04:42:27 AM

(https://i.postimg.cc/Rhvq1dXN/13-02-2023-11-38-38.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zbPJ8Cmr)

and more thanks
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on May 10, 2023, 06:27:36 AM
In response to skin master Stanislao's request...!!

 SaettaS
 FolgoreS

Just put the files into Ranwers' Pilots Italy.

Tested on 4.12.2m, BAT 4.0 only.

I personally think that my work is incomplete and unsatisfactory... ::(

 내려받기 = download

http://naver.me/xkqwXihT (http://naver.me/xkqwXihT)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnVCNqgR/2023-05-10-11-51-30.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Fkkr5hh5)

(https://i.postimg.cc/02y6spMJ/2023-05-10-11-53-58.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rz7yGR98)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: bomberkiller on May 10, 2023, 08:14:19 AM
Wunderbar!   8)

Thank you very much.

Best regards

 ]cheers[

Gerhard
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: enry711 on May 10, 2023, 10:46:07 AM
Fantastic series of mods! Thank you so much!

One question: where can i find the moving heads file made by barnesy?

EDIT: I downloaded the big files mod and installed the folder at the top in the WAW3 section. All planes affected by the mod don't show up anymore if R.A. is selected
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on May 10, 2023, 06:45:46 PM
One question: where can i find the moving heads file made by barnesy?
I downloaded the big files mod and installed the folder at the top in the WAW3 section. All planes affected by the mod don't show up anymore if R.A. is selected

1. the moving heads file made by barnesy

Go to the first page of the thread for French pilots.

But, installing is just a recommendation. As discussed so far, 'the moving heads file made by barnesy' does not show much effect on Ranwers' pilots.

2. the big files mod

Do you mean 'the DLL-4096 file'? If so...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Rh6XsFks/1656.png) (https://postimages.org/)

*Before copying and pasting, make sure to back up two original files.

  ex : rename the original 2 files and put '-' in front of the file name.

Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on May 10, 2023, 07:50:49 PM

 :D Well done Gunny! Thank you very much, I am touched by your consideration. You know that I totally share your pleasure in replacing Oleg's old little monsters with the new Ransers pilots ! 8)

Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on May 10, 2023, 08:49:34 PM
:D You know that I totally share your pleasure in replacing Oleg's old little monsters with the new Ransers pilots ! 8)


Stanislao, you make me upload my Ro-43 even.

 IMAM Ro.43

Just put the file into Ranwers' Pilots Italy.

Tested on 4.12.2m, BAT 4.0 only.

 내려받기 = download

http://naver.me/FdGXMzd3 (http://naver.me/FdGXMzd3)

EDIT : added a sight, so please download it again... :-[

(https://i.postimg.cc/YSnqFJV3/2023-05-11-04-15-41.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NyXcqPQ9)

Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on May 10, 2023, 09:48:22 PM

 :D :D Fantastic Gunny ! My jaw will dislocate from thanking you!
Now our friend Stefano has no more excuses, he has to complete and publish his skns de Ro 43!  ;)

Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on May 11, 2023, 02:39:32 AM
:D :D My jaw will dislocate from thanking you!


(https://i.postimg.cc/sgKGZkm6/19.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: enry711 on May 11, 2023, 04:30:04 AM
One question: where can i find the moving heads file made by barnesy?
I downloaded the big files mod and installed the folder at the top in the WAW3 section. All planes affected by the mod don't show up anymore if R.A. is selected

1. the moving heads file made by barnesy

Go to the first page of the thread for French pilots.

But, installing is just a recommendation. As discussed so far, 'the moving heads file made by barnesy' does not show much effect on Ranwers' pilots.

2. the big files mod

Do you mean 'the DLL-4096 file'? If so...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Rh6XsFks/1656.png) (https://postimages.org/)

*Before copying and pasting, make sure to back up two original files.

  ex : rename the original 2 files and put '-' in front of the file name.

Nono i already did that. I've replaced (with backups) the 2 files in the Il-2 main folder. I was speaking about the fact that i've put the moving heads folder in my WAW3 folder and the R.A. makes the mod-linked planes disappear
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on May 11, 2023, 07:00:19 AM
Nono i already did that. I've replaced (with backups) the 2 files in the Il-2 main folder. I was speaking about the fact that i've put the moving heads folder in my WAW3 folder and the R.A. makes the mod-linked planes disappear

I just answered according to what you wrote.

If my interpretation of what you wrote is wrong, I am sorry.

And I think I can not solve your problem.

Because I don't have the knowledge of the word 'R.A' and the situations like 'disappear'.

I hope there will be an expert's answer to your problem.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on May 11, 2023, 07:33:51 AM
Nono i already did that. I've replaced (with backups) the 2 files in the Il-2 main folder. I was speaking about the fact that i've put the moving heads folder in my WAW3 folder and the R.A. makes the mod-linked planes disappear

I just answered according to what you wrote.

If my interpretation of what you wrote is wrong, I am sorry.

And I think I can not solve your problem.

Because I don't have the knowledge of the word 'R.A' and the situations like 'disappear'.

I hope there will be an expert's answer to your problem.

... R A = Regia Aeronautica, the Italian Air Force ...  ;)

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1mqQS8g/RA.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on May 11, 2023, 08:18:32 AM
Hi, Mick. So what enry711's saying is that Italian planes of Ranwers' pilot don't work at all.

I think this is a problem caused by the characteristics of each 1946 mod, as is well known.

It's likely he's using a mod other than BAT, and eventually he needs to go back to that famous "log" issue.

If it's a problem with Barnesy's mod, he can remove the folder and test it.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Frankiek on May 11, 2023, 08:22:39 AM
The moving head mod modifies one of the base classes so it will easily conflict with many mods
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: enry711 on May 15, 2023, 11:37:23 AM
Hi, Mick. So what enry711's saying is that Italian planes of Ranwers' pilot don't work at all.

I think this is a problem caused by the characteristics of each 1946 mod, as is well known.

It's likely he's using a mod other than BAT, and eventually he needs to go back to that famous "log" issue.

If it's a problem with Barnesy's mod, he can remove the folder and test it.

Thank you.

Yep exactly. I do have BAT but when i install everything accordingly and select Regia Aeronautica with the planes affected by the mod, they literally disappear, not showing up both in QMB and in-game.
I can try to see if i can get a log
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on June 02, 2023, 08:22:36 PM
Fiat CANSA FC-20 !!

This plane(by Dandolo513) must be installed first.

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,70884.msg772096.html#msg772096

Replace the downloaded file with the file in the plane folder above.

 - Make sure to back up the original file in the plane folder before replacing it.
 - When turning the turret, the gunner's parachute slightly goes out of the fuselage. But it's not to the extent that it's very much.
 - If you are not using Ranwers' Pilot folder, you may need the texture folder of Ranwers' Italy Pilot folder(at first page).

Tested on 4.12.2m, BAT 4.0 only.

 내려받기 = download

http://naver.me/FXrBBQp7 (http://naver.me/FXrBBQp7)

(https://i.postimg.cc/JnDBbYsB/2023-06-02-23-50-15.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXpJpDqY)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: stanislao on June 03, 2023, 05:18:30 AM

 ;D ;D ;D. Many  many many  Thanks. Gunny. !    8)

Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on November 21, 2023, 08:14:38 AM
... so far, both lateral gunners have decided to leave the plane to have a smoke, which is totally against the rules ...  :-X

My friend Epervier won't allow this for long ...!  8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/3wj3508X/21-11-2023-9-54-15.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1mJ5B6T)

(https://i.postimg.cc/25rPWcYW/21-11-2023-10-26-48.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G4g7wjH3)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: Dandolo513 on November 21, 2023, 08:33:07 AM
First of all, well done Mick. This improvement is very very welcome.
I could try to manage the "air walking " .. ;)

If You want, You could  send the mod to me by PM.

the SM84  would  need to have a bombsigth... ::)

Grazie

Fair winds and following seas
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: jami2 on February 01, 2024, 09:16:09 AM
Hi! Can gunny0134 make mediafire link these planes please. Fiat CANSA FC-20 and  IMAM Ro.43
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on February 01, 2024, 09:14:46 PM
Fiat CANSA FC-20 and  IMAM Ro.43

Enjoy Them !!

D/L : https://www.mediafire.com/file/uv1xgguz5lntnsx/FC20%2528Plane_files%2529_Ro43.zip/file
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: jami2 on February 02, 2024, 12:37:51 AM
Thanks a lot again gunny0134. :)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on February 28, 2024, 02:43:08 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/vBYYv7mw/2023-02-09-06-01-38.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xkZVfzH6)

So one more thanks  :)


Just started to try new Ranwers pilots....as this is one of the plane I like more , there is a link available or is still in WIP stage?

Thanks in advance for your help!
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on February 28, 2024, 06:02:52 PM
For your richer TGA and WAW...!!

This is my Fiat Cr.32quater Freccia.

I hope you enjoy it.

And I believe you know how to use the file.

D/L : https://www.mediafire.com/file/x13vle5s9tum03z/CR32.zip/file

(https://i.postimg.cc/GmXLhKYk/2024-02-29-at-00-42-49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bj19mxm6)
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Frankiek on February 28, 2024, 06:25:18 PM
I can see that gunny beat me to it so just enjoy
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on February 28, 2024, 06:48:46 PM
The items in the cockpit I use are just borrowed from what first-class modders have already made.

It is therefore polite to identify their sources, but now I don't even know where they came from.

I am truly sorry for that.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on February 29, 2024, 11:34:40 AM
Thanks gunny0134!

Now the new recruit could start patrols over Palma de Majorca to spot for dangerous SB-2....!

Really grateful for your share!
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on March 01, 2024, 01:48:10 PM
... the Ro-57 Quadriarma is here :

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,69537.0.html

... DL link soon ...  8)

.....

Sorry to bother but only to report a bug while inside cockpit of version 1.03 with Ranwers pilot:

(https://i.postimg.cc/J0xRq5Gs/2024-03-01-20-38-41.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dZ7MQdRF)

External work good....

....for me no problem because I use improved pilots only for post mission screens...

...but maybe someone could like to have it correctly working.
Title: Re: Italian pilots
Post by: Mick on March 01, 2024, 03:26:38 PM
... sorry, I don't know what's the problem, because everything is OK in my game ...  :-X

Maybe you have another version of that plane, that loads before the Ro.57 Quadriarma (new 1.03 by CWatson) ...?  o_O

If this is the case just edit the folder name so that it loads before the other Ro.57 ...  ;)

Maybe your log says something about your problem ...?

(https://i.postimg.cc/T3g3QJxQ/01-03-2024-22-07-22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hX4ntxf7)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fTXVgNjx/01-03-2024-22-08-04.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBJMBLH4)
Title: Re: Italian pilots [4.12]
Post by: gunny0134 on March 01, 2024, 04:46:13 PM
This is because two versions exist at the same time.

Maybe Ranwers' Italian Pilot folder says v1.02 and WAW folder says v1.03.

If you choose either v1.02 or v1.03 to make the version the same, the problem will be solved.