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Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Skins, Maps, Missions & Campaigns => MTO Maps => Topic started by: agracier on October 10, 2009, 05:04:42 PM
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The Andalucia Map by Team International Brigade is just about ready for release. Just a short while for some checking and rechecking and rechecking ...
This part of Spain, while not experiencing the fiercest fighting of the Civil War, has scope enough for missions: the airlift of the Army of Africa from Ceuta to the mainland, the fall of Malaga to the rebel forces, the taking of Granada. Since Gibraltar is on the map, it is also possible to fly as British pilot against a hypothetical Spanish invasion of the Rock, or on patrol against Axis shipping or U-boats, or to fight it out as a pilot on either Spanish or Vichy French side in another alternate history scenario of a Franco-Spanish war for control of the Moroccan Protectorate.
There are new textures specifically for this map, that give a parched, brown colored earth look for this landscape. There is a high density of objects, both random and planned, as well as new templates used for cities and particular places such as for instance the Alhambra or Gibraltar harbor.
You can now fly over the Andalucian Altiplano, or the snowy tops of the Sierra Nevada and see the mountainside villages of the Alpujarras, or the cave dwellings of Guadix and the fortress of Callahora and the city of Ronda.
Here are a few screenshots:
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/AndaluciaFMB-001.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/grab0001.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/grab0003.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/grab0000.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/grab0006.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/grab0007.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/grab0005.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/grab0008.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/grab0010.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Alhambra.jpg)
Coming soon to an Il-2 forum near you.
TIB
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Amazing!!
Congratulations to TIB for this map.
Hey, agracier:
Could you get me a pic over the Rock, please?
I was born in Algeciras, you know?
Best regards,
JC
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Here are a few:
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/GibraltarHarbor-03.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/GibraltarHarbor-04-1.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/GibraltarHarbor.jpg)
These are somewhat older shots, as the textures have since been changed around a bit and there is now an extensive double trench and bunker system depicting the wartime strengthening of border defenses on both British and Spanish sides.
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:D
Beautiful.
Thanks.
JC
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¿Qué debo hacer para tenerlo en el Quick Mission Builder (cuándo este listo para descargar)?
Si se necesita el el QMB plus, ¿cómo se debe instalar? Gracias. :D
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Great map looks really beautiful working on the planes for it
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Great map looks really beautiful working on the planes for it
Wonderful! Am very curious as to which they shall be ...
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¿Qué debo hacer para tenerlo en el Quick Mission Builder (cuándo este listo para descargar)?
Si se necesita el el QMB plus, ¿cómo se debe instalar? Gracias. :D
Deseo que supiera instalar un mapa de QMB, pero no lo hago. Espero que algún otro haga eso.
I wish I knew how to install a QMB map, but I do not. I hope that someone else will do that.
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Here is the early Beta version of Team International Brigades Andalucia map:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/cagzdym0dy3/Andalucia_beta1.rar (https://www.mediafire.com/file/cagzdym0dy3/Andalucia_beta1.rar)
It is still in beta stage, so there are some errors. I have included all the necessary files to this packakge. here is the copy of read me file, which can be found at exctracted file too:
Here is the installation instructions!
Disclaimer:
This is a beta stage map and you install it with your own risk!
If you are not familiar with filestructure of mods, it is better to wait for the final release of the map.
BEFORE INSTALLING MAKE BACKUP COPIES OF static.ini and all.ini files. If you dont find those files, it is better to wait the final release with installer, again.
Inside this folder you find ALL the necessary mods and textures:
1. ag_Andalucia
Put this folder in to \Ubisoft\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\MODS\MapMods\Maps
2.and add this line to all.ini txt file
ag_Andalucia ag_Andalucia/load.ini
3.You find also all the necessary textures that Agracier and others made easily.
Just paste ag folder to:
\Ubisoft\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\MODS\MapMods\Maps\_Tex folder.
4.Then you will need Mod DLV_Egypt objects.I have included a copy of these objects. Inside Mod DLV_Egypt folder you find Add_to_static_ini.txt file. Copy all the content of that textfile and paste it in to
Ubisoft\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\MODS\STD\com\maddox\il2\objects\static.ini
And that's about it. If you can't save mission you dont have all the objects include.
If map don't load at all, you don't have necessary textures
Happy testing!
before you start to post bugfindings, i do know that there are buildings in the rivers and at the edges of the mountains. They will be removed! Some bridges are missing too. and that can't be helped, coz i can't get the bridges to work abowe sealevel.
Airfields have not been complitely tested and there is some texture erros too
But we need your opinions in general. Airfields are pretty hard to add because of mountinious terrain.
Post suggestins and constructive critics to AAA mapmakers forum. Or here!
Kapteeni/TIB
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Marvellous! Could you please provide an alternative d/l link as mediafire truly sucks (for me)? Thanks and congrats for your work!
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Excellent work really appreciate your efforts
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Hi'
Very nice, were do the I-16 skins come from ??
Happy Landings
Benno
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Very nice, were do the I-16 skins come from ??
I've had them for ages it seems like. Must have downloaded from M4T and FL especially ...
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Agazier
Found them at Flight Sim Files (ex FL).
Happy Landings
Benno
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And you even have The Alhambra in there 8)
Man I was there so long ago I don't even like to remember - but when I was, it was very nice.
Looking forward to the final release :)
¡Muchos Gracias!
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And you even have The Alhambra in there 8)
Man I was there so long ago I don't even like to remember - but when I was, it was very nice.
Looking forward to the final release :)
¡Muchos Gracias!
The Alhambra was a bit of a joke, but oddly enough, the objects turned out fairly well considering.
The map has already been released in beat, here:
DOWNLOAD LATEST BETA HERE:
https://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=5c3e69ecf8b52032ab1eab3e9fa335ca1c2b1738f1064d29
But I believe that any day now, Kapteeni will be posting the final version as well. It should have some small corrections and such.
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Yeh! The map is almost finished. I have too many versions at my hdd, that it is hard to find the best version LOL.
The firs version comes without decent bridges, becaus i can't add bridges to above sea level...
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First official version available. You can also find mr. Crackens excellent campaign for the map too:
http://www.allaircraftarcade.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=280094#280094 (http://www.allaircraftarcade.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=280094#280094)
Hope you like it, guys!
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Looks great! A little history to help bring it to life more:
America's fighter ace of the Spanish Civil War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Glasgow_Tinker)
Thanks
Triad
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As always, when flying on own maps, i keep looking errors... And now fixing those errors is easy as ever, thx to that big .exe file.
When i fly over the countryside, it still looks pretty empty. Coastal areas are OK IMHO, but North needs some villages and stuff + those bridges need to be done too. Way or another.
Stay tuned!
kap
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As always, when flying on own maps, i keep looking errors... And now fixing those errors is easy as ever, thx to that big .exe file.
When i fly over the countryside, it still looks pretty empty. Coastal areas are OK IMHO, but North needs some villages and stuff + those bridges need to be done too. Way or another.
Stay tuned!
kap
And the map desperately needs 1024 textures. I've tried out some 5 or 6 different sets of new textures, but haven't found what it should be yet. The part that always seems the most aggravating is finding cultivated fields that blend in with the rest of the landscape.
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And the map desperately needs 1024 textures. I've tried out some 5 or 6 different sets of new textures, but haven't found what it should be yet. The part that always seems the most aggravating is finding cultivated fields that blend in with the rest of the landscape.
Hahah! here we go again!
LOL
Kap
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Hello!
I downloaded this map, but in his version of textures of 1024 from AAA. Can not find the post in AAS or in SAS.
The problem is that it gives errors when flying near Gibraltar.
It comes very well because we want to make an online campaign beginning in the SCW.
http://il2campaign.creatuforo.com/index.php
Greetings
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Hello!
I downloaded this map, but in his version of textures of 1024 from AAA. Can not find the post in AAS or in SAS.
The problem is that it gives errors when flying near Gibraltar.
It comes very well because we want to make an online campaign beginning in the SCW.
http://il2campaign.creatuforo.com/index.php
You better pm or email kapteeni for the older version. with 512 textures. He has the download link for that version. I only have the 1024 version ...
By the way - for SCW, don't forget the new Aragon map if you're going to make a campaign.
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,9163.0.html
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I'm also getting lock-ups in the FMB around the Gibraltar area when I try to zoom in. This only seems to occur on the 1024 version of the map. Any ideas what might be causing this?
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I'm also getting lock-ups in the FMB around the Gibraltar area when I try to zoom in. This only seems to occur on the 1024 version of the map. Any ideas what might be causing this?
Unfortunately it is still an Il-2 mystery. All kinds of ideas have been considered and tried out. The actors are the same in both versions, so it would probably not be the actors file causing it. Leaves the texture files themselves, but this would something new, either textures load when the map loads and all is well from there on in that area, or else a faulty texture will keep a map from loading at all.
And then why only around Gibraltar or map edges. I tried it out with a hugely reduced Gibraltar set of objects and that wasn't the problem either.
Maybe I should try out a new set of 1024 textures, the map could certainly do with a new set, but putting them together is rather time-consuming and there are other maps to finish.
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Understood. I'll tinker with it when I have some time and let you know if I stumble across anything. Thanks.
EDIT: Also I should mention that the problem for me is not just in the FMB. I actually first noticed the lock-ups playing mission #2 of Poltava's I-15 campaign. The really odd thing is that they aren't "lock-ups" per se, but just pauses. When flying west-southwest along the coast toward Gibraltar, any switch to full zoom or magnified gunsight view in a roughly 60 degree cone directly forward will cause the game to pause until you switch back to a lower zoom or move the view outside the cone. As you get closer to the target area, the problem intensifies. Similarly, if you try to use an exterior view of the AI aircraft over the target zone, you will have a pause until you switch to another view.
It feels like something cannot be rendered in full detail, but shows up OK at a distance. What this is, I have no idea.
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Understood. I'll tinker with it when I have some time and let you know if I stumble across anything. Thanks.
It feels like something cannot be rendered in full detail, but shows up OK at a distance. What this is, I have no idea.
Here is an actors without the large number of Gibraltar and Ceuta objects.
https://www.mediafire.com/?aokvh7dg5ai72e9
Given your observations and thoughts it does still seem most likely that rendering a large number of objects might have something to do with it. Maybe you can conclude something more.
But if you do wish to try out this actors. BACKUP THE ORIGINAL FIRST!
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Another thought: one of these days I will undoubtedly redo Andalucia, from the bottom up probably. It is a region dear to my heart and besides that this is an older map and there have been so many advances and new techniques in map-making that an update would be very useful. There are the new South European/Desert House repaints available for one thing and with those wonderful airfield textures on Mixx's Khalkin-Gol map, it seems like airfields with concrete/sand plates just don't look as good anymore. The old airfields urgently need an update.
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I tried out the revised actors.static - no dice. Same problem still exists. I looked at the load.ini and load2.ini and I do see some differences. Load2.ini lists no texture files in the [WOOD] section, and also has a [TMAPED] entry where load.ini does not. I'm not sure of the significance of these differences, but I'll fool around with it more and see if I can track something down.
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I tried out the revised actors.static - no dice. Same problem still exists. I looked at the load.ini and load2.ini and I do see some differences. Load2.ini lists no texture files in the [WOOD] section, and also has a [TMAPED] entry where load.ini does not. I'm not sure of the significance of these differences, but I'll fool around with it more and see if I can track something down.
I don't think either a lack of RGB 24 [WOODS] or a tmaped entry makes a difference. I've made enough maps without [WOODS] this last year, and it doesn't effect anything on those maps. And I've also made tmaps for several other maps and once again no effect on those either. I do confess to not having tried turning off the tmap entry, might be something to try out, but I doubt it.
It must be something else ... yet I've no clue.
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Well, I tried systematically replacing all the textures called in load_2.ini with those in load.ini with no success. Between the revised actors.static and the lack of success changing textures, I'm fairly baffled (but then I understand very little of how all this works).
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Agracier, the retextured version of the map is so good that gives me the creeps to fly over my own country, remembering those sad events. I tried Poltava's campaigns and the experience is so real that for the first time in this game I realize how must feel to be British and fly over Canon's Channel map for example, specially if you know of people whose parents or grandparents were directly involved in the conflict, for example.
That is as good as it is your work :)
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Agracier, the retextured version of the map is so good that gives me the creeps to fly over my own country, remembering those sad events. I tried Poltava's campaigns and the experience is so real that for the first time in this game I realize how must feel to be British and fly over Canon's Channel map for example, specially if you know of people whose parents or grandparents were directly involved in the conflict, for example.
That is as good as it is your work :)
I did have a same feeling when i took my first ever flight over Gulf Of Finland when Forgottenn Battles was published yers ago..
Here is link to version 1.01 :
https://www.mediafire.com/?okcjwjzmzdm
Hope that this helps, if you can't ge the map work...
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Agracier, the retextured version of the map is so good that gives me the creeps to fly over my own country, remembering those sad events. I tried Poltava's campaigns and the experience is so real that for the first time in this game I realize how must feel to be British and fly over Canon's Channel map for example, specially if you know of people whose parents or grandparents were directly involved in the conflict, for example.
That is as good as it is your work :)
Thanks very much ... we go to Spain every year and Andalucia holds a special place especially. So much so that we'll be moving there in a few years. I've always felt that trying to get the textures right for a landscape is one of the most important aspects of making a map feel right ... in this case I've at least had the experience of being there which helps out when trying to imagine a place in Il-2 terms ...
And in a few weeks from now, we ought to have a map for Madrid/Jarama/Brunete ready. This is another good team effort with the new SE houses by Lejo who also made wonderfully atmospheric templates for villages, farms, towns, Madrid itself, el Escorial and other places ... with his help in populating I predict this Madrid map should be a great addition to SCW maps for the game.
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Ah- and then no wonder you did such a nice job on The Alhambra. I was there more years ago then I care to remember-- that and Malaga. I remember laughing when the hotel we were in put us in a room that faced out on the harbor, with a US Destroyer that happened to be in port at the time that filled our window. Like they wanted us to feel at home or something :D
Needless to say it was a very memorable trip that I remember to this day- I can understand now how you are inspired ;D
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Here's a view of the FMB for Madrid
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/MadridFMBsmall.jpg)
If you liked the Alhambra on the map, then you should certainly find Lejo's templates even better. With his Mediterranean repainted houses, and his talent for making great looking towns and villages, this one will look great from the air. Since most of the landscape is rather flattish, despite the relatively high elevation of the Meseta, we tried to bring in some variation by having objects in sight virtually constantly. But without being too dense of course, except in Madrid. And even there the large housing blocks should make frame rates acceptable ...
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When I was in Madrid we stayed at Alphonso the 13th Hotel on the same trip.
It was great!
Thank you for your work!
Triad
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A few screenshots of the upcoming Madrid map:
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Madrid-1310201010-09-07.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Madrid-1310201010-03-29.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Madrid-1210201021-24-54.jpg)
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beautiful, I almost recognize parts of the city... :D
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That's (again) a true work of art! I can see Uuflakke's beutiful buildings all around the place! Keep it up, maestro, and many thanks again! 8)
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A few screenshots of the upcoming Madrid map:
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Madrid-1310201010-09-07.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Madrid-1310201010-03-29.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Madrid-1210201021-24-54.jpg)
Amazing!
Christ! I think that i'm ready to retire from mapmaking. My maps look absolutely rubbish when comparing to This and Mixx: s new maps....
Dang, i can't even fly over my maps anymore.....
+ I can't make new textures...
+ my photoshop skills are very limited.
+Almost every area around the globe that was important at ww2 has been covered.....
I will concentrate to making missions and campaigns...
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Christ! I think that i'm ready to retire from mapmaking. My maps look absolutely rubbish when comparing to This and Mixx: s new maps....
Dang, i can't even fly over my maps anymore.....
+ I can't make new textures...
+ my photoshop skills are very limited.
+Almost every area around the globe that was important at ww2 has been covered.....
I will concentrate to making missions and campaigns...
Well, I'll tell ya, every time I see someone else's map then I too loose heart ... It's probably one of those 'greener on the other side' things ... ha ha
In any case, there are still so many areas to map and lately there are so many textures to use that you don't really need to make many new ones.
But what is important is to find someone willing to help out with making a map. Doing it all by yourself just takes too many diverse 'skill's. Graphic manipulation of map files I'm good at I guess, but when it comes to populating I am a dunce and uninspiring. Luckily there are members like Lejo/Uufflake for the Spanish maps and Riptide for Far Eastern templates who are absolute geniuses in coming up with great looking combinations of objects ... and who are willing to help out with maps ... without their help the maps wouldn't amount to much.
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I'm only good to populate maps....
It is like building missions with normal FMB.
I just wish that i could import my own objects like simple buildings or houseblocks too.
We have heaps of new maps, but not too many missions or campaigns. So missionbuilders are really needed too.
I dont know how many maps you have made Agrcier. But i have liked them all. And you are getting better all the time
Kap
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Hey Agracier, I found some old photographs of Madrid during the SCW ;)
Seems to be some of Robert Capa's lost photos. ;D
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/d9f43359.jpg)
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/0f43f1f0.jpg)
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Hahaaaa. You fooled me. I watched the second picture and though that wow that church looks like one that we have in IL2. LMAO.
kap
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Hey Agracier, I found some old photographs of Madrid during the SCW ;)
Seems to be some of Robert Capa's lost photos. ;D
Ha ha ... if only ...
You know odd you should mention him. Robert Capa is maybe the only person I've ever considered to be a personal hero ... if there was ever anyone I wanted to be, it was like him ... except for the landmine thing in French Indochina of course ...
And I don't think this is any big secret, but Kapteeni did some war reporting of his own ... Il-2's own Robert Capa ...
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Cool.
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A panoramic photo stitched together ... gives an idea of the Meseta
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Madrid-Pano-02.jpg)
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Ha ha ... if only ...
You know odd you should mention him. Robert Capa is maybe the only person I've ever considered to be a personal hero ... if there was ever anyone I wanted to be, it was like him ... except for the landmine thing in French Indochina of course ...
And I don't think this is any big secret, but Kapteeni did some war reporting of his own ... Il-2's own Robert Capa ...
Little OT:
I was studying video/film/photography at Finland and Ropert Capa was our hero too. I did few tours to middle-East and Africa + Former Yugoslavia (first one - It really blew my mind) and South East Asia. But i mostly photographed politicians and other boring stuff...It was hard to get to the frontlines. I was once in a crossfire at Southern Thailand. LOL. Some general was opening a bridge near Malaysian border when islamist guerrillas attacked against our car convoy. Nobody of us reporters/photgraphers was wounded, but all the guerrillas were killed.... Man, it was scary. I was only few meters away from action. Under a car and praying. But i mechanically took pictures all the time..
Middle-East was another thing...It was a mess...
And Africa. I was at Ethiopia and Gombe area. saw some ugly things down there...
But i also talk with Jane Goodall.
Zillions of stories comes to mind...
I also suffered posttraumatic syndroms. Like nightmares and stuff like that for several years..
After getting married, i quit ( i was about 38 .) I started to take photos about nature. And WE went back to Africa, Asia and America. hahaaa.
But that was fun...
Spanish Civil war was also a testfield for new cameras and propaganda. It was the first feally welll documented war.
I find it hard to watch documentary films about any wars, but war is like drug..
When you are there, you miss home. When home, you want to be there....
Making maps to IL2 is also a therapy for me.... LOL. Believe or not.
And if you are a history geek like me, it makes studying more fun, when you actually recreate the airbattles.
Spanish Civil war maps are needed badly.
Have you guys read Antony Beevors book about SCW. It is really good.
http://www.antonybeevor.com/spain/index.htm
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Have you guys read Antony Beevors book about SCW. It is really good.
http://www.antonybeevor.com/spain/index.htm
Oh yes, a very detailed book on the subject.
In Spain many other fine books have been published these last years. I usually go for the photo books. They are easier to read and give a sort of instant gratification to the eyes ... and they tell stories in their own right as well. And many of these are quite inexpensive since they are written from an urge to recount history, not necessarily make a profit.
For lighter reading, but a fictional story embodying all the major historical events through the characters pitfalls and misfortunes, I'd also recommend 'the Return' by Victoria Hislop.
http://www.amazon.fr/Return-Victoria-Hislop/dp/0755332954/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=english-books&qid=1286991844&sr=1-12
It's written by a woman and gives a different approach to things, but is very suitable for people who have only vague ideas about the conflict.
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Wow guys... I'm from Madrid and that map touches me specially. I now live in London but keep a small flat very near la Almudena and Palacio Real. Amazing work. Specially realistic are the red tile roofs, very typical in old Madrid, in contrast to grey roofs of Paris for example. Ah, and try to make Manzanares river as narrow as possible, poor guy is more a stream than a river :)
Keep the good work! Hopefully very soon I will repay you with some work over the Pacific maps I have almost finished, when real life leaves me a small window of time for Il2 :)
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try to make Manzanares river as narrow as possible, poor guy is more a stream than a river :)
I know that most rivers in Spain are rather narrow and/or dry. I spent several tries experimenting with making rivers narrower, placing them on special layers, not blurring them so much or blurring by hand ... but it's not a process that leaves a lot of latitude. You need to make them 3 pixels wide, because if you make them only 2 pixels wide, then you end up with a succession of watering holes in a line, rather than a narrow river ... ha ha. Doesn't look very good at all.
There are also river objects, from either the Burma or Thailand maps, but this doesn't work very well either. They are quite long as objects go, but whenever they are placed on terrain that is not as flat as an airfield, they sort of hang in the air over lower areas ... looks absolutely awful.
So, until someone comes up with a different technique for making rivers, it will have to be 3 pixel wide rivers or nothing ... it's a shame really, but there you have it ...
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This is looking really great, thanks for everyones hard work!
@ Kapteeni.
"We have heaps of new maps, but not too many missions or campaigns. So missionbuilders are really needed too."
you have a very valid point, there are many beautiul maps available but some with not even one campaign, without campaigns
a beautiful new map is but a fleeting joy!
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A few more screenshots of Madrid ... after this I'll get back to finishing the map ...
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Madrid-1310201022-08-03.jpg)
in the word's of Ernst Busch, Brigadista and singer: Madrid die wunderbare
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Madrid-1310201022-10-07.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Madrid-1310201022-11-05.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Madrid-1310201022-11-26.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Madrid-1310201022-17-57.jpg)
on the road to Madrid
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Madrid-1310201022-19-34.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Madrid-1310201022-14-22.jpg)
A finely made template by Lejo of a farm, using a good combination of flat-roofed houses and terracotta.
In the distance dogfighting between Nationalists and Moscas in the skies near Madrid.
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impressive, I am really awaiting to fly over Madrid, y the way, there are some bunkers left in several areas, like "casa de campo" and near "las rozas", i.e., all over the stabilized front areas. They are small, concrete and half buried...typical.
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impressive, I am really awaiting to fly over Madrid, y the way, there are some bunkers left in several areas, like "casa de campo" and near "las rozas", i.e., all over the stabilized front areas. They are small, concrete and half buried...typical.
Once you know where to look, you can find remnants of trenches, bunkers, strong-points, graffiti inscriptions and such in many places. In Aragon around Huesca and the Monegros area they are very prevalent. In one place we've been going to several years, there are rather deep, man-made caves running into a hill under the village church. I never gave them a thought, maybe they were something medieval, an old quarry or whatever. Turns out they are air-raid shelters built by the Republicans during the SCW. And they are still open and accessible - and clean as well! No garbage, no graffiti on the walls. And of course no signs indicating what they are either ...
In another village I found out there were still a number of bunkers left. When searching for them, I asked a farmer driving by if he knew where they were. A look of utter surprise was the result (or else my Spanish was that bad ... ha ha.) I showed him the book where I had gotten my info from and still he didn't know anything about bunkers. Then about 100 from where we talked I found them all nicely preserved, 5 or 6 concrete bunkers ... they are nothing more than concrete hindrances for farmers apparently ...
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/Img_0378.jpg)
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air raid shelter caves - in Alcubierre, where George Orwell was stationed in 1936
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impressive, I am really awaiting to fly over Madrid, y the way, there are some bunkers left in several areas, like "casa de campo" and near "las rozas", i.e., all over the stabilized front areas. They are small, concrete and half buried...typical.
Could you maybe indicate more or less where these are? It doesn't have to be very accurate - just something like in the northern part of the city, across the river to the west or something like that.
It would have been nice to add some trenches, but I think that would effect frame rates just too much. Trench sections are very small objects and you need a lot of them to be able to see them ... but maybe a few sections with bunkers ought to be doable ...
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Is the map still on its way?
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Is the map still on its way?
If you are asking about the Madrid map, then it is not only on the way, but it has arrived some time ago already.
Madrid can be downloaded here:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,9939.0.html
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Thank you.
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Wow! A great map and a great thread - some really cool reading here and great references. This map really opens up a few cans of worms as well as great possibilities for the game. Well done the International Brigade. Viva and Salud!