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SAS~Skipper

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Re: Fokker D VII/DVIIF
« Reply #60 on: November 20, 2013, 05:35:34 AM »

btw I started some cockpit textures
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Need arrow on the compass.
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Re: Fokker D VII/DVIIF
« Reply #61 on: November 20, 2013, 04:30:23 PM »

I also gave a attachinge FM

Thank you!
I just tested and this feels perfect, I'll include this version in DBW-1916.
Your kidding right VP? The plane still jerks and shakes around.Skippers FM fixed nothing as far as I can see maybe I'm wrong but, I have it installed correctly and it still doing the same thing as it was when it was first uploaded.

honestly, it did feel better...maybe just a placebo effect

anyway, if I avoid overspeeding it works fine, but I agree its a bit of a challenge to score kills with it

If I remember right from the old AAA days when they where developing CK for IL2,they had dropped that CK2009 FM done by Hunan in favor of the SE5's FM by Mr. Jolly because many of them thought it was the worst FM ever made for IL2.Perhaps the CK2009 FM can be dropped here also and reverted to the SE5's FM,I don't know I'm just spit balling ideas and throwing them out there.Although I love this mod it sure is sad to see such a great plane and great mod with such bad flight features.I hope it can be fixed.
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Re: Fokker D VII/DVIIF
« Reply #62 on: November 20, 2013, 05:48:50 PM »

I do not understand pritenzii many people, we managed to find one expert who knows Java. The First World War almost no interest to many. Aviaskins on this  topic is closed. Find the professionals and let them do the FM and slots.
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Re: Fokker D VII/DVIIF
« Reply #63 on: November 20, 2013, 07:59:42 PM »

I think that, for whatever reason, this mod is greatly affected by whatever the state of the user's in stall is.
Those who are running the latest DBW with VP Media's latest patch might have a fine FM, while those with a custom install might be experiencing the glitchy FM or, in my and Gunny's case, a plane which simply does not work. Conflicts with certain mods perhaps?

I had the same issue with late-war BF 109s in my DBW install; they would not show on QMB (even though I could select them) and disabling a mod I had installed (German Pilots) fixed it totally. I'm thinking what Gunny and I are experiencing is the same sort of conflict.

~Mike
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Re: Fokker D VII/DVIIF
« Reply #64 on: November 20, 2013, 08:33:16 PM »

First off I'd like to say,I have VP Media's latest patch and have no other issues with any other planes in my DBW 1916 or my regular DBW.The second thing I'd like to ask is who's Gunny?
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Re: Fokker D VII/DVIIF
« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2013, 08:37:01 PM »

Is there a Patch #9, or am I just thinking wrong?
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Re: Fokker D VII/DVIIF
« Reply #66 on: November 20, 2013, 08:48:17 PM »

First off I'd like to say,I have VP Media's latest patch and have no other issues with any other planes in my DBW 1916 or my regular DBW.The second thing I'd like to ask is who's Gunny?
<Gunny> is a member of the forum, he responded to one of my posts on this page;
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,37923.36.html
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Re: Fokker D VII/DVIIF
« Reply #67 on: November 20, 2013, 08:51:54 PM »

First off I'd like to say,I have VP Media's latest patch and have no other issues with any other planes in my DBW 1916 or my regular DBW.The second thing I'd like to ask is who's Gunny?
<Gunny> is a member of the forum, he responded to one of my posts on this page;
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,37923.36.html
~Mike
Cool,is he still having problems?
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Re: Fokker D VII/DVIIF
« Reply #68 on: November 20, 2013, 09:11:04 PM »

It seems so, as am I.  :(
It must be a mod conflict issue.
~Mike
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Re: Fokker D VII/DVIIF
« Reply #69 on: November 20, 2013, 09:28:29 PM »

I'm still having the same problem and I have also installed the d-7-- 4 times with no luck.
I have been on the forum for some time.
 In fact my log in time is like 31 days or some thing here @ SaS.
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« Reply #70 on: November 21, 2013, 01:01:17 PM »

 :'(
So.
All are ready to talk .. ..
I ask - who is willing to do the FM?
Here's the other is that there is now.
I will pack any option that people deem worthy of this aircraft.

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[Argus_As-10C]
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[HS_8B]
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[W_Viper]
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[RR_FalconIII]
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  Type Inline
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  cRadiator 0
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  RPMNom 1300
  RPMMax 1400
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  Reductor 0.85
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  PropAnglerMinParam 0
  PropAnglerMaxParam 0
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  CompressorRPMP0 800
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  CompressorRPMPMax 1401
  CompressorMaxATARPM 1.0
  DisP0x 1400
  DisP0y 05
  DisP1x 0
  DisP1y 48
  TWATERMAXRPM 80

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Re: Fokker D VII/DVIIF
« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2013, 05:25:41 PM »

However, there was as aviaskins, talkers and dreamers much, and do not wait for the real help from anyone. Even do something for such do not hunt, do not do all the same nagging will.

(Odnako tut stalo kak na aviaskins, boltunov i fantazerov mnogo, a real'noy pomoshchi zhdat' ne ot kogo. Dazhe delat' chto to dlya takikh nichego ne okhota, chto ne sdelay vse ravno nyt'ye budet.)
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