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Remade skin for JU-52.

So this is another job I've remade. As always, I added a little color and some sharpness here and there. I just want to do something today... So I will share what I'm doing. I know that this airplane model has already been updated by Mr. Barnesy. But I can't enter the author of the skin. I downloaded it just recently. So if you can, please sign up. I will put the author's name in the title of the post.


Have a nice flight everyone.

Download link:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/7ap8kphe5x9u3gr/Remade_skin_for_Ju-52_3mg5e_LT_Staffel_I_1Z%252BNM.rar/file

















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Re: Remade skin for Ju-52 3mg5e LT Staffel I 1Z+NM
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2024, 03:33:58 AM »

Forgive me for saying this but why have you edited a skin by captainChaos? It's more credible if you do one yourself instead of effectively vandalising someone else's work.. I'm guessing the 109 skin you did wasn't yours either?

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Re: Remade skin for Ju-52 3mg5e LT Staffel I 1Z+NM
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2024, 03:39:19 AM »

If you want to make that sort of effect on skins in your sim then don't feel the need to edit others? I'd advise to just use this.. it's called ReShade.. just D/L and open this RAR, highlight everything in the folder and drop it into your main IL-2 install... trust me it's a true enhancer of graphics..  ;D

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P.S anyone else is welcome to it...
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Re: Remade skin for Ju-52 3mg5e LT Staffel I 1Z+NM
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2024, 03:59:42 AM »

... yep, the original skin is by captainChaos as his signature shows ...  :-X

... and I know for sure that he doesn't like at all his work to be edited (and of course he never edits another skinner's skin ..) ...  :-X

... so, as BlackAce says, better to make your own work the way you like, instead of "vandalising" somebody else's work ...   :-X
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Re: Remade skin for Ju-52 3mg5e LT Staffel I 1Z+NM
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2024, 04:22:32 AM »



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Re: Remade skin for Ju-52 3mg5e LT Staffel I 1Z+NM
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2024, 06:39:37 AM »

First of all, I never said anywhere that I paint skins. I always said it was recycling. It's not my fault you just realized that.

Secondly, if you can't touch them. You can't change someone else's work. Why wasn't I told that before?

Thirdly, I accept criticism. But calling me "toilet paper" like one of you did. I will not allow it!

Now, next, I have never painted, and I will never paint skins. Moreover, everything you've seen is under my co-authorship, namely work on the Yak, Bf-109, A6M, and German submarine series. None of this is directly attributable to me either. It's just my vision. Which I present to you.

I agree. I don't do everything well. But there's some good work. And you know that.

Those of you who follow me. You do. Those who follow, should have long ago realized that I have always only remade skins of other authors. And I made only templates of high quality and detail, and then there was a kind of symbiosis between "mine" and "not mine". You had to know that! This is not a discovery!

Here, are examples of "not my" work:



































They are also someone else's work. Originally. Somewhere, I corrected them. And somewhere, I did a complete reworking.

Now, one last thing. A lot of you guys aren't kids anymore. To behave like this. And insulting me, making me look like a laughingstock. I don't know what Reshade is. And attaching a nasty picture of yourself.

First of all you are pointing out your - mealy-mouthedness.

Anyway. I'm not sharing any more skins. This issue is closed to me. I respect other people's work, and always have. I take positively to all kinds of criticism. I even welcome it.

But I will not allow you to insult me. No one..!

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Re: Remade skin for Ju-52 3mg5e LT Staffel I 1Z+NM
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2024, 08:02:12 AM »


Thirdly, I accept criticism. But calling me "toilet paper" like one of you did. I will not allow it!

... nobody called you "toilet paper", the message behind the toilet paper drawing, by the real author of the Ju-52 skin, captainChaos, is that what you did to his original skin only deserves to be wiped with toilet paper ...


Anyway. I'm not sharing any more skins. This issue is closed to me.

... very good news, especially if the original skins were made by somebody else, and the final result after you reskinned them is rubbish ...


I respect other people's work, and always have.

... no, this is not true, you don't respect other skinners work, when you don't even ask permission to edit it, and the final result doesn't pay justice to the original skinner work ...
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Re: Remade skin for Ju-52 3mg5e LT Staffel I 1Z+NM
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2024, 08:49:08 AM »

Unfortunately in this story, some are right and some are not.
Everyone has the right to tinker with skins made by others. Some were made several years ago, others were made by 'masters of the brush' now deceased...
However, certain rules must be respected:
- if you don't know the author of a skin... make every effort to find him or her, even by posting the request here if necessary.
- if you tinker with a skin, name the original author.
- if the author is still active/alive, contact him/her to ask for his/her opinion and permission to distribute.

I know, the world of skinners is peculiar... we generally have fewer problems with a Mod thanks to the "Do What The Frak You Want With It" licence. A licence that's less common with skinners.

I won't give an opinion on the quality of your tinkering... because that's a very personal judgement.


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Re: Remade skin for Ju-52 3mg5e LT Staffel I 1Z+NM
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2024, 05:43:31 PM »



Dear MICK. If this is your personal opinion, keep it to yourself. And if you can't read, that's your problem. I originally stated that I don't know the author. And I wrote that if you do, please write his name.

Now, next, here's a list of links to my work. That have been remodeled in one way or another:

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,68810.0.html.

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,69232.0.html

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,69947.0.html

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,69949.0.html

(It says here that this is a skin from the game Warthunder, but partly there is another author here. Of the skin or template I started with)

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,69982.0.html

(also the author is unknown to me)

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,67542.0.html

(Author Mangas, it was written in the title, so there was no difficulty) Not the most successful work. But as I said, I have different.

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,67950.0.html

(here indicated only what was known, although I'm not sure that there is such an author...)

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,70736.0.html

(this one was made by me from two old skins, that is, there are two authors, and I do not know not one of them) Since they are both from the standard folder version of the game 4.09)

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,71035.0.html

(here is the same author two, the name of the skin only inscribed, the rest I do not know)

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,69623.0.html

(Also I did not know the author, I was informed by Mr. Artiglio.And I made a correction)

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,69590.0.html

(skin from MADMICK71)

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,69630.0.html

(skin by RABIZO)



the last of the links:

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,71493.0.html

(This is as I understood the work of - Segfej. Also you know, here I did not get a masterpiece, and all I did was a little added color and brought out other tones. Somebody liked it. And someone would probably want to call it - "toilet paper." But for some reason didn't...)

Originally all these works, they had nothing to do with me. Some are made from two, three others.

I don't write the author if I don't know about him.And I do not have a separate folder in which the skins were placed in folders with the names of authors.There are over 8500 thousand skins in my folder. And I don't know more than half of them.


But to write to me that "that's not true, and that I don't care about the authors." 

That's a lie.Dear MICK!

Now the next thing, here were those who simply repainted, like me, an existing work. For example - DESPEREAUX. This person also posted his own vision of the skins. Just adding colors here and there. And this is his vision. And everyone decides for themselves whether to accept it. Or not.
Now the last thing. Unless skin authors (who by far do the hard work) don't like it when people interfere with their work. Then forbid doing this. At the official level. And then the question of intervention will be removed forever.

And as for the image of “toilet paper”. So here it is. I don’t know how or what it looks like in your understanding. And in your "society". As I understand it, this is unimportant for you. In my understanding, this is an = insult to my personality.


As I said.

You won't see my work anymore. I won't "ruin" any more of your work.


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Re: Remade skin (author captainChaos) for Ju-52 3mg5e LT Staffel I 1Z+NM
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2024, 06:38:55 PM »

At this stage all the interested persons made their point and readers have all the info to form an opinion. No need for any further reply. Please consider this question closed  I would prefer not to be forced to lock and remove the thread. 

Kind reminder

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,23602.0.html
NB Rule N°2 and N°7 in particular

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,41587.msg467594.html#msg467594




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Re: Remade skin (author captainChaos) for Ju-52 3mg5e LT Staffel I 1Z+NM
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2024, 11:25:38 PM »

Enough
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