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The-frenchsistance

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Is there a mod that strengthens the airframe?
« on: May 09, 2024, 12:28:52 AM »

I think the IL21946's fuselage is too fragile, which is not a good thing
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Re: Is there a mod that strengthens the airframe?
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2024, 12:30:50 AM »

Must be applicable to the bat mod
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Re: Is there a mod that strengthens the airframe?
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2024, 11:47:55 AM »

My first thought would be to adjust the getEnergyPastArmor thresholds in the plane class for spars in the aft fuselage, if any are present...
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Re: Is there a mod that strengthens the airframe?
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2024, 01:57:22 PM »

The plane meshes (Engine, CF, wings, tail, keel, rudder elevators, gear, turrets) have all a toughness value that is coded in the FM [Toughness] section. To give an example, the CF mesh (which in IL-2 roughly corresponds to the fuselage) of a 109 has a toughness value of 500, while the CF of an IL-2_1941 has a toughness value of 1,000 (concrete aircraft, hehe). The getEnergyPastArmor thresholds in plane's classes are usually applied to specific components such as spars, radiator, fuel, tanks, control rods, etc. etc.
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Re: Is there a mod that strengthens the airframe?
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2024, 02:05:45 PM »

Not having ever delved into the FM, I'm blissfully ignorant of all the aspects it controls.  ;)  Perhaps I should expand further my explorations and add the FM to my list of stuff to grapple with...

Out of curiosity, what's the fuselage toughness of the Hellcat, whose back end seems to me rather too eager to let go under a comparatively mild peppering?
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Re: Is there a mod that strengthens the airframe?
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2024, 02:13:17 PM »

in stock 4.12.2 the CF toughness of the Hellcat is valued at 600 while the A6M5 at 300.  I would say that overall the CF average value for a fighter would be around 500
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Re: Is there a mod that strengthens the airframe?
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2024, 02:54:02 PM »

I wonder what was the toughness of P-38's booms and stabiliser in the stock game... P-38 fans like me, used to suffer a lot.
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Re: Is there a mod that strengthens the airframe?
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2024, 04:44:26 PM »

this is the toughness section of the Stock 4.12.2 P-38L the booms are called Tail1 and Tail2 while the stabilizer is StabL. They look pretty average

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[Toughness]
  AroneL 100
  AroneR 100
  CF 1200
  Engine1 400
  Engine2 400
  Engine3 400
  Engine4 400
  GearL2 300
  GearR2 300
  Keel1 200
  Keel2 200
  Nose 180
  Oil 100
  Rudder1 100
  Rudder2 100
  StabL 170
  StabR 170
  Tail1 400
  Tail2 400
  Turret1B 100
  Turret2B 100
  Turret3B 100
  Turret4B 100
  Turret5B 100
  Turret6B 100
  VatorL 300
  VatorR 300
  WingLIn 350
  WingLMid 250
  WingLOut 200
  WingRIn 350
  WingRMid 250
  WingROut 200
  Flap01 100
  Flap02 100
  Flap03 100
  Flap04 100
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Re: Is there a mod that strengthens the airframe?
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2024, 11:36:36 AM »

Thank you, Frankiek. If as you say, the fuselage average is 500, then 400 for the boom looks "fair".
Probably, it was just my imagination.
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Re: Is there a mod that strengthens the airframe?
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2024, 08:45:43 PM »

Here's another idea.
Lower the weapon deduction value?
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