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[dsawan]

a what if based on the American a-10 for '43.

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=24559.0
http://ww2f.com/threads/heinkel-319-a-real-wunderwaffe.47215/



Development
Τhe Heinkel He-319 was undoubtedly the most advanced multi-role fighter to originate from the Third Reich during WW2. This advanced warplane, designed primarily as a night fighter, ruled the night skies over Germany in late 1945 and went on to play a decisive role in the formulation of night ground attack doctrine. The fighter originated from the highly ambitious Ρ.1081/44 RLM programme. The P.1081 specifications were extremely demanding, calling for unheard of performance for an aircraft of its era. The new fighter was designed to satisfy two roles: a primary night fighter (Nachtjäger) and a secondary night attack (Nachtschlacht) role. The large powerful airframe was designed around four of the brand new Jumo 012 turbojets that were developed from the well-known, albeit temperamental, 004Βs used in the Me-262. Thanks to this very advanced powerplant, the relatively heavy (41.000 lbs at full combat load, compared to 15,700 lbs of the 262) He-319 Warzenschwein, as the Ρ.1081 was christened, proved surprisingly nimble and capable even when carrying huge loads. While its top speed, at just over 540 mph, was not exceptional by 1945, it achieved this with full internal combat load and fuel. With full internal and external combat load it could still attain 490 mph and a ceiling of 47,000 ft. which made it a very capable interceptor even against high-flying Allied PR planes. The Warzenschwein’s unlikely advantage, however, was its maneuverability which gave it the edge even against single-engine fighters. Equally important was its survivability, thanks to its secondary role as a ground attack fighter which had endowed it with a robust frame and useful armour for the pilot and the main flight controls.

Armament
The Warzenschwein was extremely well-armed for its day. Its fixed armament included a single 3.7cm Rheinmetall Bordkanone BK 37 under the nose, with a huge, internal, 66-round magazine, used mainly to shoot down bombers and attack ground targets; two 2cm MG 151/20s in a ventral pack with 360 rounds for air-to-air combat and two quadruple 21cm RZ-65 rocket launchers in the wing roots used to demolish structures and attack large targets. Additional external armament included a quartet of Ruhrstahl Kramer Χ-4 guided missiles under the wings and various guided and unguided air-to-ground munitions. The defensive weapons suite was complemented by a virtual sting in the tail, a small, barbette-type turret with twin MG 151/15s linked to an intelligent targeting screen in the cockpit. This allowed the single pilot to continue to fly and aim the rear turret as if he were in a dogfight.
Sensors were not the most up-to-date as there was no room for the large dome of the new FuG 240 Berlin night radar, so the Warzenschwein relied on an improved Lichtenstein SN-2 (FuG 220), together with an advanced version of Naxos.

Powerplant
To protect the engines from ground fire, the four Jumo 012s blasting through twin tailplanes, were mounted on a dorsal pylon. The new engines proved not only powerful, producing more than three times the thrust of the 004Bs, but were also much more robust and safer to use, delivering maximum thrust at only 5300 rpm. They were also 15%more economical than the earlier 004Bs allowing the Warzenschwein the exceptional combat radius of over 950 miles on internal fuel and full weapons load and over 1,400 miles with external drop tanks.

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RLM Nomenclature Type Max thrust Weight rpm
Jumo 109-004B Turbojet 8.8 kN (1984 lbf) 745 kg (1642 lb) 8700
Jumo 109-012 Turbojet 27.3 kN (6130 lbf) 2000 kg (4410 lb) 5300

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General characteristics

    Crew: 1
    Length: 53 ft 4 in (16.26 m)
    Wingspan: 57 ft 6 in (17.53 m)
    Height: 14 ft 8 in (4.47 m)
    Wing area: 506 sq ft (47.0 m2)
    Airfoil: NACA 6716 root, NACA 6713 tip
    Empty weight: 24,959 lb (11,321 kg)
    Gross weight: 30,384 lb (13,782 kg)
        CAS mission: 47,094 lb (21,361 kg)
        Anti-armor mission: 42,071 lb (19,083 kg)
    Max takeoff weight: 50,000 lb (22,700 kg) [200]
    Fuel capacity: 11,000 lb (4,990 kg) internal
    Powerplant: 2 × General Electric TF34-GE-100A turbofans, 9,065 lbf (40.32 kN) thrust each

Performance

    Maximum speed: 381 kn (439 mph, 706 km/h) at sea level, clean[199]
    Cruise speed: 300 kn (340 mph, 560 km/h)
    Stall speed: 120 kn (138 mph, 220 km/h) at 30,000 lb (14,000 kg)[201]
    Never exceed speed: 450 kn (518 mph, 833 km/h) at 5,000 ft (1,500 m) with 18 Mark 82 bombs[202][199]
    Combat range: 220 nmi (250 mi, 400 km) CAS mission, 1.88 hour loiter at 5,000 ft (1,500 m), 10 min combat[a]
    Ferry range: 2,240 nmi (2,580 mi, 4,150 km) with 50 knots (58 mph; 26 m/s) headwinds, 20 minutes reserve
    Service ceiling: 45,000 ft (13,700 m)
    Rate of climb: 6,000 ft/min (30 m/s)
    Wing loading: 99 lb/sq ft (482 kg/m2)
    Thrust/weight: 0.36

Armament

    Guns: 1× 30 mm (1.18 in) GAU-8/A Avenger rotary cannon with 1,174 rounds
    Hardpoints: 11 (8× under-wing and 3× under-fuselage pylon stations) with a capacity of 16,000 lb (7,260 kg), with provisions to carry combinations of:
        Rockets:
            4× LAU-61/LAU-68 rocket pods (each with 19×/7× Hydra 70 mm/APKWS[203] rockets, respectively)
            6× LAU-131 rocket pods (each with 7× Hydra 70 rockets)[204][205]
        Missiles:
            2× AIM-9 Sidewinder air-to-air missiles for self-defense
            6× AGM-65 Maverick air-to-surface missiles
        Bombs:
            Mark 80 series of unguided 'iron' bombs or
            Mk 77 incendiary bombs or
            BLU-1, BLU-27/B, CBU-20 Rockeye II, BL755[206] and CBU-52/58/71/87/89/97 cluster bombs or
            Paveway series of Laser-guided bombs or
            Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) (A-10C)[207] or
            Wind Corrected Munitions Dispenser
        Other:
            SUU-42A/A Flares/infrared decoys and chaff dispenser pod or
            AN/ALQ-131 or AN/ALQ-184 ECM pods or
            Lockheed Martin Sniper XR or Litening targeting pods or
            2× 600 US gal (2,300 L) Sargent Fletcher drop tanks for increased range/loiter time.

Avionics

    AN/AAS-35(V) Pave Penny laser tracker pod[208] (mounted beneath right side of cockpit) for use with Paveway LGBs (currently the Pave Penny is no longer in use[citation needed])
    Head-up display (HUD)[31]

Anti-armor mission: 252 nmi (290 mi; 467 km) with sea-level penetration and exit, 30 min combat

[dsawan]

The second set of code is based on the real a-10 but parts are or could be used as similar.

[SAS~GJE52]

Too late I'm afraid, the RAF was already deploying their own take on this concept in the skies over Northern France in '44 .......   242 Squadron, "The Tiger Hunters".   

[Chaoic16]

Here is an idea:

You could make it as 'what if' British found the information about Germany secret project (Heinkel 319 Warzenschwein) and sent the spy to steal the data on it.  From there, they build their own version with the technonlogy they have available.  Hence, resulted in the creation of "Tiger Hunter" aircraft?

[SAS~GJE52]

No, there was no "cloak and dagger" stuff at all.

It was actually a purely British proposal and not influenced by any other developments. The Gloster Reaper's design was a rapid development, based around the  existing Gloster Meteor airframe. This was in response to a requirement to address the Meteor's low, wing mounted engine's tendency to ingest foreign objects when operating in forward areas using rough and/or damaged airfields. The higher placement of the engines necessitated the redesign of the tail section to improve lateral stability and controllability.

Although a fairly fast aircraft by the standards of the day, it did not prove to have sufficient manoeuvrability  to operate effectively in the fighter role. It did prove to be a very capable and stable platform in the ground support/tank busting role. However, the rapid development of jet aircraft meant that it's operational life ( like that of the Meteor it was derived from) was fairly short.

At the start of the "Cold War" period,  a couple of examples of the redesigned aircraft ( incorporating the improved tail configuration, more powerful engines, clipped wings as well as  improved armament and pilot protection) were loaned to the US Air Force for evaluation. There is some speculation that it might have formed the basis for subsequent American aircraft designs. 

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[KingTiger503]

I stick with He-319, It has Remote control Turret at the H Tail back there....


I dont think the Reaper was Taken by British Air Ministry. F.29/40 known as Reaper.



Best Regards KT503

[SAS~GJE52]

I dont think the Reaper was Taken by British Air Ministry.

In reality a development of the F.9/37 as a twin radial engined night fighter, for a new Air Ministry Specifications F.29/40 – known unofficially as the Gloster Reaper – was dropped so that Gloster could concentrate on existing work and on the nascent British jet projects. That much is historically true ....... however as we are actually talking "fantasywaffe" here in that world the name Reaper was then officially applied to one of those nascent jet projects ... as detailed above ....   

So then, all things considered, the Meteor derived, jet engined Reaper is a far more believable and technically feasible aircraft than the Heinkel 319 ... IMHO of course... 

For the sake of argument though, if we consider taking the Reaper development to its obvious conclusion it might possibly have ended up looking something like this ....... and given the service record of the A-10 - as well as the limited UK defence budget -  a version of it ( nicknamed the "Flying Pig maybe" ?)  might still be around today .......... 

 

Anyway .. all this is just more gibberish in a section dedicated to, and crammed full of, such stuff.......   

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[dsawan]

Is that an in game shot or from what sim? Maybe we can bring this to our sim for the realm of what-ifs

[SAS~GJE52]

The last time I looked this is the "requests and ideas" section..... So before someone gets their underwear in an uproar ... please note that his feature was brought to you by  a combination of photoshop, an overactive imagination, too much free time and an element of artistic talent... of course 


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