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BlackAce7727

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Heinkel He-100 HE+BE Propaganda Aircraft
« on: June 04, 2021, 02:44:48 AM »

Morning all friends and pilots of SAS,

Today after research with one picture and a side profile I present an aircraft that was supposedly meant to represent the He-100V-8 which Hans Dieteler set the record in during March 1939. The aircraft however in reality that was used during the propaganda movie was the He-100 V-5. Dieteler's record though would be shattered by the purpose built Me-209 ''Racer'' a month or so later.





Get this lady here ---> https://www.mediafire.com/file/nubk8odzsihxf4n/He-100+Propaganda+HE+BE+1939.rar/file

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Re: Heinkel He-100 HE+BE Propaganda Aircraft
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2021, 03:36:25 AM »

Perfect representation of this aircraft, thanks a lot Eric!

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Mike
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Re: Heinkel He-100 HE+BE Propaganda Aircraft
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2021, 03:43:48 AM »

Glad you like her Mike, with the basic template of the He-100 it was very difficult to get the ''metal'' finish on the aircraft, however with playing around with layers and adding stuff it worked out very well. 8)

Happy flying mate,
Eric
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Re: Heinkel He-100 HE+BE Propaganda Aircraft
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2021, 10:43:58 AM »

Beautiful plane and beautiful skin, thank you  ;)
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Re: Heinkel He-100 HE+BE Propaganda Aircraft
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2021, 02:15:19 PM »

Thanks HaFu :)
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Re: Heinkel He-100 HE+BE Propaganda Aircraft
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2021, 07:54:24 PM »

Thank you, BlackAce.  ;D As far as I know, the video you mentioned has the only footage of an He 100 in flight. It's also interesting in part because the newsreel was specifically intended for viewing on television. It must have been one of the first televised "docudramas."

In the image below, the gentleman in the black beret and leather overcoat was Josef Kohler, the nominal leader of the factory racing team. I've only ever learned the last name - Namyslak - of the team member in the dark coveralls. At one point in the video, a second mechanic can be seen closing and securing a circular hatch on the starboard side of the engine cowling. The hatch covered one of the two EPU connections on A-series aircraft. (The second EPU connection was covered by a circular hatch on the port side of the fuselage,  more or less vertically aligned with the antenna mast. I've never learned why these aircraft had two EPU sockets.)

The opening shot in this video is of the He 100 V3. That aircraft was destroyed in September 1938, several months before the record flight of the V8 and the production of the propaganda footage of the V5.

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Re: Heinkel He-100 HE+BE Propaganda Aircraft
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2021, 03:16:57 AM »

Anytime EHood,

As I was saying to Mike it was a very hard skin to replicate with the basic He-100 template. Trying to get a natural aluminum finish and alternate panels was very difficult, another issue was alignment especially with the landing flaps and the fuselage change in terms of materials. The rudder I got reasonably lucky with but the only thing that let this one down for me was the spinner... it should be all one colour but it couldn't be done due to the back of the nosecone aligned with the background colour.

V-5 is famous.. but for all the wrong reasons! :))
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Re: Heinkel He-100 HE+BE Propaganda Aircraft
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2021, 01:53:43 PM »

"...I've never learned why these aircraft had two EPU sockets..."

My guess would be that the port side fuselage one was for charging the aircraft's main battery (24V?) - which ran the radio, heater, fuel pump and cockpit ancillary items. The starboard engine cowl one would be for electrical starting of the engine via a portable generator (being unplugged in the film), as opposed to using a crank handle and the in-built inertia starter. This was exactly the system used on 109s - you had the option of electrical starting where a generator was available, or inertial starting for field use where the ground crews had no generator.
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Re: Heinkel He-100 HE+BE Propaganda Aircraft
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2021, 07:49:56 PM »

Orge Schwab - I was thinking the same thing. The port side EPU connector is mounted on the bulkhead at the forward end of the radio compartment, and the starboard connector was mounted on a plate projecting just ahead of and slightly above the right rear engine mount. The rectangular panel on the starboard side of the cowling provided access to, among other things, the inertial starter. These hatches can be seen in the photo below, also a picture of the V5, along with an EPU standing near the opposite, port side of the aircraft. I have another photo, taken from  the same three-quarter angle, in which more of the EPU cable can be seen (it does swoop upwards toward the port connector), but I can't find my own print of that photo. Ah, well. Life goes on.

BTW, the color(s) of the spinner, nose ring, and upper and lower cowl panels is not known. The same dark coloration can be seen on the wing root fairings in this and other photos of the V5 as well as in photos of other uncamouflaged prototypes. Just so, fin tips and occasionally portions of the nose ring on prototypes were often painted white. For skinners and other artists: Note, too, the "clean" leading exhaust outlet.



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Re: Heinkel He-100 HE+BE Propaganda Aircraft
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2021, 04:52:22 AM »

Hi Folks,
EH, regarding the tail fin tip, and the lower nose parts you mention as being painted white, actually were not painted at all, as they were part of the surface cooling system, they were left bare metal to allow better cooling.

Interesting propaganda pic.  I have seen that possibly the spinner and nose was in dark red, and possibly the upper/lower cowling? But the upper cowling may also have been in dark green (RLM 70/71 type) to stop reflecting glare, as with P51's etc, but all those parts are certainly painted.

Nice tex BA, many thanks.

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Re: Heinkel He-100 HE+BE Propaganda Aircraft
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2021, 02:21:23 PM »

Hard to say exactly, several pictures of early V Muster exist in such fresh factory manner.
But they were done on different chromatic Films. This irritates first.

Primer, Grau 02, Putty and cannibalized parts of the regular 3 Tone Kites used up for replacement panels,
then mix with bare metal and you can chose yourself

The Pilot on both Pictures is Hans Dieterle.







RLM 70/71 type parts, in RLM 65 possible too, hard to trace from RLM 02 on such bare metal Kites

Some Pre Series or Prototypes had allover 02 or 65, both possible.

no to reflecting glare, as with P51's

Whatever colour the Skinner choses here, is plain right
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Re: Heinkel He-100 HE+BE Propaganda Aircraft
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2021, 06:05:15 AM »

Many thanks!
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