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WxTech

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UPDATE, Feb 21, 2024: The former painted "+" mark on the windscreen has been replaced by a proper front post mounted well forward on the cowling, including for the CW-22 as well. This makes aiming FAR easier!



Get it here:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/zrewbja2aqmqies/CW-21_sight_aid.7z/file


from the included readme file:

CW-21 (and CW-22) front sight post, by WxTech


This is an update to an earlier mod in which I had added a small painted "+" mark on the windscreen to act as a 'front bead' for the ring sight. For some odd reason, the stock cockpit provides ONLY the ring; without a post/bead there is no way to use the sight effectively.

I have seen in (poor, not hi-rez) online photos what appears to be a front post, well forward on the cowling. And so I now add one here. The far longer baseline between this new bead and the ring makes for far easier aiming!

I include also Body.msh, in which resides the two cockpit view hooks. I've placed the CAMERA view hook, which is the one for the 'normal' POV, coincident with the CAMERAAIM hook ('gunsight' view), lifting it up in line with the sight and also closer to the sight. This has the added benefit of improving the view toward the rear. And of course it means that now you don't *have* to hit the 'gunsight' view key in order to shoot (but it still helps to do so in order to more easily stay in line with the sight.)

If you wish to play with the positioning of the view hooks, the last 3 values, when increased, move the POV Forward, Left and Up (hence the guide reading "F L U").

I've darkened the ring sight texture, as I found it to be of too-high 'contrast', with its marked difference in light and dark parts.

If you already should have a cockpit mod of the CW-21, and you find this to be useful, you could simply copy the five files here into your existing mod, overwriting potentially three of them (back them up first, or rename the originals with a preceding "-").

I include the same stuff for the CW-22, which is the 2-seater variant of the CW-21.




As with all my IL-2 mods, this work is offered for use by any and all, for any purpose, without restriction.


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Re: CW-21 reference mark on windscreen for aligning the ring sight
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2021, 11:30:46 AM »

Unauthorized modifications of military equipment in barracks conditions are a serious violation of the regulations and there are paragraphs for this. It was different in combat conditions, and I hope you had such intentions.  ;D
Thank you very much for another great job from WxTech
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Re: CW-21 reference mark on windscreen for aligning the ring sight
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2021, 05:42:43 PM »

Another great mod WX !

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Re: CW-21 reference mark on windscreen for aligning the ring sight
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2021, 02:36:38 AM »

So, here's my virtual effort, even if it should violate policy on unauthorized modification of military equipment!
In peacetime it is 15 days in prison or 15 days leave!
But in wartime it's the firing squad or the decoration!

Personally I give you the decoration !  :D

Thank you very much !



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Re: CW-21 reference mark on windscreen for aligning the ring sight
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2021, 03:10:01 AM »

As added interesting history, in Korea, some Sabre pilots choose to remove their entire gyroscopic gunsight (they were very heavy and bulky, a friend of mine used one as a doorstop. It is like a big briefcase filled with bricks. They were also hard to use effectively in combat, and unreliable). The saved weight was also part of the illegal on-field "lightening" of the Sabres to try to get them more competitive with the Migs.

The pilots then replaced this with a piece of gum stuck to the windscreen. They called it the "Gum Sight". Most notable gum-sight user for the US was ace pilot Gabby Gabreski, who said that if the gum obscured the mig, you were too far away to fire on it anyway.
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Re: CW-21 reference mark on windscreen for aligning the ring sight
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2021, 04:39:14 AM »


The pilots then replaced this with a piece of gum stuck to the windscreen. They called it the "Gum Sight". Most notable gum-sight user for the US was ace pilot Gabby Gabreski, who said that if the gum obscured the mig, you were too far away to fire on it anyway.

With the moral of this story is that my dear gents - "Always wear rubber"  ;D
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Re: CW-21 reference mark on windscreen for aligning the ring sight
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2021, 05:58:02 AM »

Back in my 4.08 days, an early mod I did was to do this very same thing for the A-20C, which has just the ring sight. I never carried this over when going to 4.12. I suppose I should re-implement it, eh...

It just this moment occurs to me that I could implement this as a separate mesh, with its own entry in hier.him. That way it would be easy for those regulation-adhering, strutting martinets who frown upon 'unauthorized modification of equipment' to disable it by removing or REM-ing out that hier.him entry.  :D
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Re: CW-21 reference mark on windscreen for aligning the ring sight
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2024, 01:52:10 PM »

UPDATE, Feb 21, 2024: The former painted "+" mark on the windscreen has been replaced by a proper front post, including for the CW-22 as well. Same d/l in the top post.
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Re: CW-21 reference mark on windscreen for aligning the ring sight
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2024, 08:41:39 AM »

I cannot get the download due to a virus alert :(
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Re: CW-21 reference mark on windscreen for aligning the ring sight
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2024, 12:07:32 PM »

The file is clean. Turn off your antivirus while downloading.
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Re: CW-21 reference mark on windscreen for aligning the ring sight
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2024, 01:43:09 PM »

6dof readily reveals that the cockpit is a bit on the high side. The lower lip of the forward windscreen frame in reality sits quite nearly flush with the cowling. I have lowered the whole cockpit 6cm, which looks much nearer to being correct. Of course, this subtracts that 6cm from the look-down angle over the engine cowl, and the front post is concomitantly lowered by 6cm. And it does make the rear bulkhead of the external model become a little bit more visible when looking rearward. I accept this as the price of realism. How about you? Should I post this update?

Oh, I am planning to adjust the 6dof limits in the cockpit class, to at least increase the range of downward movement of one's virtual head. (The POV is already high, and no more upward movement range is needed, and the L-R and fore-aft are pretty much OK--might be tweaked a tad.)
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Re: CW-21 reference mark on windscreen for aligning the ring sight
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2024, 10:19:24 AM »

Front sight post in action:

Thanks again WxTech...!  :)
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