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Re: WIP : WW1 units added to game
« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2022, 11:11:04 AM »

American units (Squadrons , Groups and Wings) added to the list....

Tomorrow I'll add the 12 Belgian Squadrons (and I'll post a new help topic to have the confirmation that I added them correctly) and I'll start to look at the italians....

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As you have correctly supposed those data , and some other wiki pages , are the only one online source I have find....I have to read each one and recreate from them the full list up to the Groups...
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Re: WIP : WW1 units added to game
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2022, 10:54:17 AM »

Belgian done....and help topic too....

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,68970.msg751503.html#msg751503

I have collected some of the italians early Squadrons because they have a different naming....now I have to scan each numbered Squadrons to find thir naming evolution and the Groups/Armies membership.....
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Re: WIP : WW1 units added to game
« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2022, 03:20:10 AM »

Hi!

Italian Squadrons & Gropus collecting data done....

As previously opened tread for help request were useless I'll post here the results of my research....If someone like to take a look is welcomed!

I'll start to build the game files next week....

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As there are many named and numbered 'Sezione da Difesa' and many numbered 'Squadriglia da Difesa' , instead to fill each one as they aren't all involved in action but used to protect specific mainland Italy targets far from the frontline but subject to bombing (cities , airfields , harbours and similar)...I'll build a generic 'Sezione Difesa' and a generic 'Squadriglia Difesa' to place if needed in sensible spot specific defence missions....
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Re: WIP : WW1 units added to game
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2022, 01:38:21 PM »

Today I finished all the new units that I can build!

I have made about 1000 dedicated WWI Squadrons , Wings and Flight....

Actually are only missing 3 air forces:

- Imperial Russian Air Service
- Imperial Japan Navy Air Service
- Imperial Japan Army Air Service

This because I haven't find any useful information about their 1914/1919 OOB or organization....

Now I can continue the building of the new nations files (portraits/names/cities/awards/Ranks) to allow them to be used with the next update of Asura's DGen....

If someone could help with data about the 3 missing services is more than welcomed!
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Re: WIP : WW1 units added to game
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2022, 11:24:02 PM »

Today I finished all the new units that I can build!

I have made about 1000 dedicated WWI Squadrons , Wings and Flight....


Impressive and much needed!

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Re: WIP : WW1 units added to game
« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2022, 02:32:33 PM »

Thanks mate!

The new units adding is finished and debugged!

I have discovered that in our game 2 nation MUST always be keept in the list: GERMANY and RUSSIA or the regiment classfile have issue (stationary planes don't show in object wiever and couldn't be placed in FMB or spawned in mission) and give errors in the game log....from errors messages to CTD....

Anyway I sorted it out!

Now I'll start to collect the others (portarait , awards , ranks , names , icons and so on)....I hope to have a beta for september!
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Re: WIP : WW1 units added to game
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2022, 09:42:40 AM »

UPDATE

All BLUE nations are finished!

1) Austro-Hungarian (K.u.K. Luftfahrtruppen)
2) German Army (Luftstreitkrafte)
3) German Navy (Kaiserliche Marine Fliegerabteilung)
4) Ottoman Empire (Osmanli Havacilik Filolari)

NOW I'm starting with RED nations....
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Re: WIP : WW1 units added to game
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2022, 09:23:38 AM »

SUMMER BREAK

ATM I've all BLUE countries ready for installation....I'm working on RED....

As RFC/RNAS/RAF pilots are from different Commonwealth countries , I have to collect data for each country , than for a mix one....this could a bit delaying the end of the project towards XMas because I have a lot of aces names to copy in my files....and as I have also decided to get the historically correct places of birth , the data I need to edit are more than doubled....
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Re: WIP : WW1 units added to game
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2022, 08:16:31 AM »

Great work so far!

Was wondering if you were adding minor nations, could you add the Romanian Air Corps units as well?
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Re: WIP : WW1 units added to game
« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2022, 01:03:40 PM »

Great work so far!

Was wondering if you were adding minor nations, could you add the Romanian Air Corps units as well?


Yes I could add other nations in the future....maybe not as separate nations because if their air units were little I can modify the existing nations (to keep compatibility if a DGen should be created) and tailor them for DOF for example....

If you or someone like to see their desired country implemented , could start a preliminar reserch for the data I need (that's because I'm sure that in your native language there are more source than I can find on the web in english):

1) Air units and their nomenclature (Squadrons , Wings , Groups , Special Units)
2) At least 100 combination of most common name and surname (in this format Surname,Name1 Name2) maybe including (or if ther were enought of , only) special rapresentative avitors like aces , pioneer , flamboyant guys....
3) At least 50 cities (about with this organization: 1 capitals , 4 mains , 10 medium , 20 little , 55 small)
4) At least 40 portrait of the period aviators (in uniform or flight suite)

With this materials I can add a new nation in few days....after some messages exchange about how I can correctly rapresent RANKS and MEDALS
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Re: WIP : WW1 units added to game
« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2022, 05:07:13 PM »

Let's see, regarding units and overall information:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_Air_Corps
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Romanian_Air_Force_units#WW1
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupul_1_Aeronautic
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupul_2_Aeronautic

Regarding names:
- https://www.behindthename.com/names/gender/masculine/usage/romanian
- https://surnames.behindthename.com/names/usage/romanian also this https://www.hartanumeromanesti.eu/rang_numelor_de_familie.php
(think it's the best way to get the most common names and surnames)

Regarding cities:
- capital: Bucharest
- mains: Iași, Bacău, Galați, Ploiești, Brăila, Craiova (added main cities that would be relevant for the fighting in WW1/specifically for the air corps)
- for medium, little and small not sure if this should include locations based on how relevant they were to the aviation so needs some further clarification

Regarding aviator portraits, I can send them in private (because there's a lot I can send). Regarding aces and notable pilots: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_I_flying_aces_from_Romania

Question here, do you include observers as well? Also in Romania's case I guess you could include pilots of the French mission since I don't think it will come into conflict with what you added for France.
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Re: WIP : WW1 units added to game
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2022, 02:08:29 PM »

Thanks mate...it could be easy to add those units....

I'll remember about again after my main project for DGen is accomplished....

About cities; those are used for the pilots places of birth so are relevant in relation with how big are them...thus how many pilots can be born from....

I'm developing names based on source that give me the aces...I don't care if the specific aces names are of pilots or observer/gunners....they fought....they should be remembered anyway....in your link there are 51 names of aces....if I find others historically I'll add them...otherwise I'll add most common names to reach 100 names in the file....

I'll don't add French names because France deployed indipendent units abroad....if you like to start a career for them you are French....if you are Romanian you'll start a specific career where you could add French squadrons in the campaign....
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