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Re: Archie's generic BB in US colors
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2020, 10:03:35 AM »

This also means you do not have to add entries in the ships.ini?
The old method was to clone the new ship you wanted to have and rename all relevant stuff according to the slot name of the old one...
using your method you just assign an existing ship model (that has all the relevant 3d files and ini entries in their respective places already) to any given name you place in chief.ini...do I get that correct ?
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Re: Archie's generic BB in US colors
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2020, 10:26:29 AM »

That appears to be correct. The great thing about that is that the generics could be replaced with appropriate ships for their country, and any old campaigns using a generic would still run fine.

I suspect that no current mission/campaign builders would usually be likely to  employ a generic anyway as the range of ships is now extensive, but as vampire says, it has some historical significance as old campaigns would still run (just with the new generic).
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Re: Archie's generic BB in US colors
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2020, 12:59:15 PM »

Thinking about it I guess old missions still need to be updated as the chiefs section in the missions will have old references for the generics which will be superseded by our newly introduced ones... Or am I wrong here? (Cannot crosscheck as we are on vacation currently)
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Re: Archie's generic BB in US colors
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2020, 01:28:06 PM »

No. Provided the "new" clone names match the old Generic then the *.mis files will be fine. Refer to post #8.
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Re: Archie's generic BB in US colors
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2020, 12:15:44 AM »

Yeah you are right, it was a thinking error on my part...
Well then, something new to try when I get back home then :)
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Re: Archie's generic BB in US colors
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2020, 02:44:33 AM »

No. Provided the "new" clone names match the old Generic then the *.mis files will be fine. Refer to post #8.


Actually, yes and no!
This move only works for "chiefs", aka moving ships! It will not work for sataionaries!

Chiefs are handled by their "given name" in a mis file (as a chief can contain several objects, which are individually identified through the chief.ini)
A stationary item/ship/vehicle is directly referenced with their class name in the .mis file

  1_Static ships.Ship$USSBBGeneric 2 102153.22 99184.77 360.00 0.0 0 2 1.0

Therefore, the "renaming move" will not take on as the class name directly leads to something else.
A mission containing this line will still come up blank in that spot.

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Re: Archie's generic BB in US colors
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2020, 04:03:32 AM »

Ah thanks for the clarification...
I knew there was a section I had to fiddle with more thoroughly in the mis file when I converted some USN training missions from Asura's DGen pack to make them work in WAW...

What might work is to look through all classfiles in the TGA objects.ships folder and search for the text string "USSBBGeneric" ... This might turn up a classfile or two that enables said ship...from what I know about adding ships it should really be only one classfile I guess...
Given the "old" method of substituting the 3do for ships, this should be the best method of getting for example the USS Tennessee to replace the KGV as USSBbGeneric...
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Re: Archie's generic BB in US colors
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2020, 04:18:34 AM »

the classfile is present and the 3do is stock. Still, a no show.

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Re: Archie's generic BB in US colors
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2020, 05:26:33 AM »

That's really a strange issue....
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Re: Archie's generic BB in US colors
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2020, 04:20:01 PM »

Fixed damage skin files.

If you're getting 70% CTD, chances are, your ships.ini entry is too "new". You have to "downgrade" it like this:
Code: [Select]
[USSBBGeneric]
Description  King George V Battleship

Icon         shipDestroyer

// Model
Mesh         3do/Ships/USSBBGeneric/Hier.him

// Motion Parameters
SliderDistance 567.675
Speed          26.391 //52.782
SoundMove      models.Ship

// Vitals

[USSBBGeneric:Part0]
BaseChunk Hull1
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullEnorm
Vital
 damageDepth   0.4
 damagePitch  -2.0
 damageRoll    4.0
 damageTime  164.0

[USSBBGeneric:Part1]
BaseChunk Hull2
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullEnorm
Vital
 damageDepth   0.4
 damagePitch   0.0
 damageRoll    4.0
 damageTime  160.0

[USSBBGeneric:Part2]
BaseChunk Hull3
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullEnorm
Vital
 damageDepth   0.4
 damagePitch   2.0
 damageRoll    4.0
 damageTime  166.0

// Structure

[USSBBGeneric:Part3]
BaseChunk SSF
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullHuge

[USSBBGeneric:Part4]
BaseChunk SST
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullLarge

[USSBBGeneric:Part5]
BaseChunk Stack1
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullMedium

[USSBBGeneric:Part6]
BaseChunk Stack2
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullMedium

[USSBBGeneric:Part7]
BaseChunk MastN
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullSmall

[USSBBGeneric:Part8]
BaseChunk MastT
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullSmall

[USSBBGeneric:Part9]
BaseChunk Wire_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullTiny

[USSBBGeneric:Part10]
BaseChunk Boat1
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullTiny

[USSBBGeneric:Part11]
BaseChunk Boat2
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullTiny

[USSBBGeneric:Part12]
BaseChunk Boat3
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullTiny

[USSBBGeneric:Part13]
BaseChunk Boat4
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullTiny

[USSBBGeneric:Part14]
BaseChunk Boat5
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullTiny

[USSBBGeneric:Part15]
BaseChunk CraneL
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullMedium

[USSBBGeneric:Part16]
BaseChunk CraneR
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullMedium

// Armament

// 356mm

[USSBBGeneric:Part17]
BaseChunk                 Head1
AdditionalCollisionChunk0  Gun1
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunHuge

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_MkVII_356
 HeadMinYaw                -130
 HeadMaxYaw                 130
 GunHeadChunk             Head1
 GunBarrelChunk            Gun1
 GunShellStartHook  ShellStart1

[USSBBGeneric:Part18]
BaseChunk                 Head2
AdditionalCollisionChunk0  Gun2
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunHuge

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_MkVII_356
 HeadMinYaw                -130
 HeadMaxYaw                 130
 GunHeadChunk             Head2
 GunBarrelChunk            Gun2
 GunShellStartHook  ShellStart2


[USSBBGeneric:Part19]
BaseChunk                 Head3
AdditionalCollisionChunk0  Gun3
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunHuge

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_MkVII_356
 HeadMinYaw                -130
 HeadMaxYaw                 130
 GunHeadChunk             Head3
 GunBarrelChunk            Gun3
 GunShellStartHook  ShellStart3

// 134mm

[USSBBGeneric:Part20]
BaseChunk                 Head4
AdditionalCollisionChunk0  Gun4
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunLarge

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_QFMkI_134
 HeadMinYaw                -140
 HeadMaxYaw                   0
 GunHeadChunk             Head4
 GunBarrelChunk            Gun4
 GunShellStartHook  ShellStart4

[USSBBGeneric:Part21]
BaseChunk                 Head5
AdditionalCollisionChunk0  Gun5
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunLarge

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_QFMkI_134
 HeadMinYaw                -160
 HeadMaxYaw                   0
 GunHeadChunk             Head5
 GunBarrelChunk            Gun5
 GunShellStartHook  ShellStart5

[USSBBGeneric:Part22]
BaseChunk                 Head6
AdditionalCollisionChunk0  Gun6
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunLarge

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_QFMkI_134
 HeadMinYaw                   0
 HeadMaxYaw                 160
 GunHeadChunk             Head6
 GunBarrelChunk            Gun6
 GunShellStartHook  ShellStart6

[USSBBGeneric:Part23]
BaseChunk                 Head7
AdditionalCollisionChunk0  Gun7
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunLarge

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_QFMkI_134
 HeadMinYaw                   0
 HeadMaxYaw                 140
 GunHeadChunk             Head7
 GunBarrelChunk            Gun7
 GunShellStartHook  ShellStart7

[USSBBGeneric:Part24]
BaseChunk                 Head8
AdditionalCollisionChunk0  Gun8
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunLarge

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_QFMkI_134
 HeadMinYaw                   0
 HeadMaxYaw                 140
 GunHeadChunk             Head8
 GunBarrelChunk            Gun8
 GunShellStartHook  ShellStart8

[USSBBGeneric:Part25]
BaseChunk                 Head9
AdditionalCollisionChunk0  Gun9
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunLarge

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_QFMkI_134
 HeadMinYaw                   0
 HeadMaxYaw                 160
 GunHeadChunk             Head9
 GunBarrelChunk            Gun9
 GunShellStartHook  ShellStart9

[USSBBGeneric:Part26]
BaseChunk                Head10
AdditionalCollisionChunk0 Gun10
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunLarge

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_QFMkI_134
 HeadMinYaw                -160
 HeadMaxYaw                   0
 GunHeadChunk            Head10
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun10
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart10

[USSBBGeneric:Part27]
BaseChunk                Head11
AdditionalCollisionChunk0 Gun11
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunLarge

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_QFMkI_134
 HeadMinYaw                -140
 HeadMaxYaw                   0
 GunHeadChunk            Head11
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun11
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart11

// 8x40mm AA Pom

[USSBBGeneric:Part28]
BaseChunk                Head12
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunSmall

[USSBBGeneric:Part29]
BaseChunk                Head13
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunSmall

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_2pdrMkVI
 HeadMinYaw                 -70
 HeadMaxYaw                  80
 GunHeadChunk            Head13
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun13
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart13

[USSBBGeneric:Part30]
BaseChunk                Head14
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunSmall

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_2pdrMkVI
 HeadMinYaw                 -60
 HeadMaxYaw                  80
 GunHeadChunk            Head14
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun14
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart14

[USSBBGeneric:Part31]
BaseChunk                Head15
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunSmall

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_2pdrMkVI
 HeadMinYaw                 -80
 HeadMaxYaw                  70
 GunHeadChunk            Head15
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun15
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart15

[USSBBGeneric:Part32]
BaseChunk                Head16
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunSmall

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_2pdrMkVI
 HeadMinYaw                 -80
 HeadMaxYaw                  60
 GunHeadChunk            Head16
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun16
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart16

[USSBBGeneric:Part33]
BaseChunk                Head17
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunSmall

// 20mm Oerlikon AA

[USSBBGeneric:Part34]
BaseChunk                Head18_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -60
 HeadMaxYaw                  80
 GunHeadChunk            Head18_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun18_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart18

[USSBBGeneric:Part35]
BaseChunk                Head19_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -60
 HeadMaxYaw                  60
 GunHeadChunk            Head19_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun19_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart19

[USSBBGeneric:Part36]
BaseChunk                Head20_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -80
 HeadMaxYaw                  60
 GunHeadChunk            Head20_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun20_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart20

[USSBBGeneric:Part37]
BaseChunk                Head21_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -60
 HeadMaxYaw                  60
 GunHeadChunk            Head21_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun21_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart21

[USSBBGeneric:Part38]
BaseChunk                Head22_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -30
 HeadMaxYaw                  20
 GunHeadChunk            Head22_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun22_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart22

[USSBBGeneric:Part39]
BaseChunk                Head23_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -20
 HeadMaxYaw                  30
 GunHeadChunk            Head23_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun23_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart23

[USSBBGeneric:Part40]
BaseChunk                Head24_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -65
 HeadMaxYaw                  65
 GunHeadChunk            Head24_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun24_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart24

[USSBBGeneric:Part41]
BaseChunk                Head35_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -75
 HeadMaxYaw                  75
 GunHeadChunk            Head35_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun35_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart35

[USSBBGeneric:Part42]
BaseChunk                Head36_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -45
 HeadMaxYaw                 160
 GunHeadChunk            Head36_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun36_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart36

[USSBBGeneric:Part43]
BaseChunk                Head37_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                -160
 HeadMaxYaw                  45
 GunHeadChunk            Head37_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun37_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart37

[USSBBGeneric:Part44]
BaseChunk                Head38_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -80
 HeadMaxYaw                  90
 GunHeadChunk            Head38_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun38_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart38

[USSBBGeneric:Part45]
BaseChunk                Head39_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -90
 HeadMaxYaw                  80
 GunHeadChunk            Head39_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun39_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart39

[USSBBGeneric:Part46]
BaseChunk                Head40_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -60
 HeadMaxYaw                  80
 GunHeadChunk            Head40_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun40_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart40

[USSBBGeneric:Part47]
BaseChunk                Head41_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -80
 HeadMaxYaw                  60
 GunHeadChunk            Head41_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun41_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart41

[USSBBGeneric:Part48]
BaseChunk                Head42_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -55
 HeadMaxYaw                  80
 GunHeadChunk            Head42_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun42_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart42

[USSBBGeneric:Part49]
BaseChunk                Head43_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -80
 HeadMaxYaw                  55
 GunHeadChunk            Head43_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun43_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart43

[USSBBGeneric:Part50]
BaseChunk                Head44_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -60
 HeadMaxYaw                  60
 GunHeadChunk            Head44_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun44_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart44

[USSBBGeneric:Part51]
BaseChunk                Head45_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -60
 HeadMaxYaw                  60
 GunHeadChunk            Head45_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun45_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart45

[USSBBGeneric:Part52]
BaseChunk                Head46_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -75
 HeadMaxYaw                  60
 GunHeadChunk            Head46_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun46_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart46

[USSBBGeneric:Part53]
BaseChunk                Head47_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -60
 HeadMaxYaw                  75
 GunHeadChunk            Head47_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun47_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart47

[USSBBGeneric:Part54]
BaseChunk                Head48_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -60
 HeadMaxYaw                  75
 GunHeadChunk            Head48_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun48_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart48

[USSBBGeneric:Part55]
BaseChunk                Head49_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -75
 HeadMaxYaw                  60
 GunHeadChunk            Head49_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun49_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart49

[USSBBGeneric:Part56]
BaseChunk                Head50_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -70
 HeadMaxYaw                  60
 GunHeadChunk            Head50_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun50_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart50

[USSBBGeneric:Part57]
BaseChunk                Head51_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -60
 HeadMaxYaw                  70
 GunHeadChunk            Head51_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun51_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart51

[USSBBGeneric:Part58]
BaseChunk                Head52_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -80
 HeadMaxYaw                  50
 GunHeadChunk            Head52_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun52_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart52

[USSBBGeneric:Part59]
BaseChunk                Head53_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -50
 HeadMaxYaw                  80
 GunHeadChunk            Head53_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun53_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart53

[USSBBGeneric:Part60]
BaseChunk                Head54_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -80
 HeadMaxYaw                  50
 GunHeadChunk            Head54_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun54_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart54

[USSBBGeneric:Part61]
BaseChunk                Head55_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -50
 HeadMaxYaw                  80
 GunHeadChunk            Head55_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun55_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart55

[USSBBGeneric:Part62]
BaseChunk                Head56_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -90
 HeadMaxYaw                  75
 GunHeadChunk            Head56_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun56_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart56

[USSBBGeneric:Part63]
BaseChunk                Head57_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -75
 HeadMaxYaw                  90
 GunHeadChunk            Head57_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun57_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart57

[USSBBGeneric:Part64]
BaseChunk                Head58_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -90
 HeadMaxYaw                  65
 GunHeadChunk            Head58_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun58_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart58

[USSBBGeneric:Part65]
BaseChunk                Head59_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -65
 HeadMaxYaw                  90
 GunHeadChunk            Head59_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun59_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart59

[USSBBGeneric:Part66]
BaseChunk                Head60_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                -100
 HeadMaxYaw                  55
 GunHeadChunk            Head60_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun60_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart60

[USSBBGeneric:Part67]
BaseChunk                Head61_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_Oerlikon20
 HeadMinYaw                 -55
 HeadMaxYaw                 100
 GunHeadChunk            Head61_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun61_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart61

// Targeting Systems

[USSBBGeneric:Part68]
BaseChunk                Head25
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullMedium

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_MkVII_356
 HeadMinYaw                -130
 HeadMaxYaw                 130
 GunHeadChunk            Head25
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun25
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart25
 TrackingOnly

[USSBBGeneric:Part69]
BaseChunk                Head26
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullMedium

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_MkVII_356
 HeadMinYaw                -130
 HeadMaxYaw                 130
 GunHeadChunk            Head26
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun26
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart25
 TrackingOnly

[USSBBGeneric:Part70]
BaseChunk                Head27
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullMedium

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_QFMkI_134
 HeadMinYaw                -180
 HeadMaxYaw                   0
 GunHeadChunk            Head27
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun27
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart25
 TrackingOnly

[USSBBGeneric:Part71]
BaseChunk                Head28
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullMedium

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_QFMkI_134
 HeadMinYaw                   0
 HeadMaxYaw                 180
 GunHeadChunk            Head28
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun28
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart25
 TrackingOnly

[USSBBGeneric:Part72]
BaseChunk                Head29
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullMedium

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_QFMkI_134
 HeadMinYaw                   0
 HeadMaxYaw                 180
 GunHeadChunk            Head29
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun29
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart25
 TrackingOnly

[USSBBGeneric:Part73]
BaseChunk                Head30
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullMedium

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_QFMkI_134
 HeadMinYaw                -180
 HeadMaxYaw                   0
 GunHeadChunk            Head30
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun30
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart25
 TrackingOnly

[USSBBGeneric:Part74]
BaseChunk                Head31
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_2pdrMkVI
 HeadMinYaw                -180
 HeadMaxYaw                   0
 GunHeadChunk            Head31
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun31
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart25
 TrackingOnly

[USSBBGeneric:Part75]
BaseChunk                Head32
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_2pdrMkVI
 HeadMinYaw                -180
 HeadMaxYaw                   0
 GunHeadChunk            Head32
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun32
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart25
 TrackingOnly

[USSBBGeneric:Part76]
BaseChunk                Head33
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_2pdrMkVI
 HeadMinYaw                   0
 HeadMaxYaw                 180
 GunHeadChunk            Head33
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun33
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart25
 TrackingOnly

[USSBBGeneric:Part77]
BaseChunk                Head34
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullTiny

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_2pdrMkVI
 HeadMinYaw                   0
 HeadMaxYaw                 180
 GunHeadChunk            Head34
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun34
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart25
 TrackingOnly
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Re: Archie's generic BB in US colors
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2020, 01:09:39 PM »

I think I found the solution to make the USSBBGeneric working again in WAW3...

CAUTION!!!
the following is only for EXPERIENCED USERS who want to experiment a little!
IN NO WAY DO THIS IF YOU DONT NEED THE USSBBGeneric in the game!
alright, you have been warned:

what I did was to compare the TGA3 folder files with the WAW3 folder files, as in TGA, the USSBBGeneric works, while in WAW3 it does not!
using a text crawler, I found one classfile in TGA3 with reference to the USSBBGeneric, while in WAW3, there are actually three!

I kept the one that resides in the engine mod folder of both, TGA3 and WAW3 but remmed out the following classfile in classes-objectsships folder:
9AED69FCA28642D0

I remmed that one out, put the ini entries for the USSBBGeneric back in again and in doing so also substituted the totally inappropriate 3do from the stock KgV RN BB with the new Colorado from Ashe for the USSBBGeneric, using well established procedures from some moons ago..

e voila, Ashe┬┤s Colorado is now my new USSBBGeneric, and it works in the game, both as moving and as stationary ship;
Doing some test with missions in FMB, I have noticed no bad sideeffects yet, but I have tested only a few of the ships, referenced in the remmed out classfile;
so far, all of them work though :)

might be the way to go in that regard... at least for mission and campaign compatibility, that might be a way...
this one contains a lot of references to ships but I checked mentioned ships in the FMB after
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