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Kelso

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Re: VL Myrsky II
« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2020, 01:05:58 PM »

First of all - thank you to everyone involved in this project for the work done. The aircraft is little known, but it is worth refining it.
1. According to available sources, this aircraft only carried 50 and 100 kg bombs
2. The pylons on which they were moved are 'hidden' in the hull (PylonL_D0.msh and PylonR_D0.msh) in the existing model.
I did not find any photo of Myrsky II with bombs attached, but there are photos of the airframe with pylons - those used by Vasya are probably bad.
https://www.vlmyrsky.fi/en/21




3. The shape of the fuel tank also does not match the one used by Vasya.

I apologize for this critical tone, but it's all for the good of the project  :).

Edit. Pylons available in 3d model, extracted from hiding. In my opinion - correct.



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Dreamk

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Re: VL Myrsky II
« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2020, 02:07:05 PM »

This is the bomb rack /fuel tank tack. It is flushed inside the wing :


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Re: VL Myrsky II
« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2020, 02:49:38 PM »

First of all - thank you to everyone involved in this project for the work done. The aircraft is little known, but it is worth refining it.
1. According to available sources, this aircraft only carried 50 and 100 kg bombs
2. The pylons on which they were moved are 'hidden' in the hull (PylonL_D0.msh and PylonR_D0.msh) in the existing model.
I did not find any photo of Myrsky II with bombs attached, but there are photos of the airframe with pylons - those used by Vasya are probably bad.
https://www.vlmyrsky.fi/en/21

3. The shape of the fuel tank also does not match the one used by Vasya.

I apologize for this critical tone, but it's all for the good of the project  :).

Edit. Pylons available in 3d model, extracted from hiding. In my opinion - correct.
I have already removed this mod from my computer.
You have the full opportunity to modify VL Myrsky II mods
to your liking.
I have placed the sources in the CLASSES folder.
All the best!
Good luck!
(Я вже видалив цей мод із свого комп'ютера.
Ви маєте повну можливість перероблювати мод VL Myrsky II
за своїм смаком.
Ісходники я вклав в папку КЛАСИ.
Всього найкращого!
Успіхів!)
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Dreamk

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Re: VL Myrsky II
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2020, 02:36:06 AM »

Thanks Vasya for all your work on the FM and also on the gun classes!
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Kelso

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Re: VL Myrsky II
« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2020, 04:05:42 AM »

Vasya - peace - don't be offended - your corrections are very helpful and valuable. I appreciate the work you put into this plane.
However, aiming at the ideal with your help it can definitely be determined:
1 - how many 50 kg bombs did Myrsky II carry - two or four?
2 - on which pylons 50 kg and 100 kg bombs were carried?
There is also a small amount of rifle ammunition for minor correction ''The outermost machine guns have 260 rounds each and the inner 220 rounds. There are collection boxes for empty cases." as well as the appearance of additional 150l fuel tanks.
Any additional information for this rare aircraft is welcome.
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Re: VL Myrsky II
« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2020, 04:36:27 AM »

Kelso, see my post earlier in this thread - the bomb load was 2x100kg or 2x50kg  - 1 bomb under each wing, here again without pylon but directly attached to the same clutch in the wing used also for the fuel tank (most probably with a supporting band circling the bomb, as seen on photos of the modified bomb bay of the Finnish Blenheims )
The manual states that a "grill rack" could be attached to the wing instead of the bomb or fuel tank, to carry a number of small bombs (7, 12,5, 15kg) but I have no idea how this could be done, as the clutch wiring in the wing is intended for a single drop action. I must also state that I have never found any photo of the Myreskii with bombs.
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Re: VL Myrsky II
« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2020, 05:03:27 AM »



Bombs-attached_Myrsky_Mensuvaara-august-1944

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Vasya

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Re: VL Myrsky II
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2020, 05:44:51 AM »

Vasya - peace - don't be offended - your corrections are very helpful and valuable. I appreciate the work you put into this plane.
However, aiming at the ideal with your help it can definitely be determined:
1 - how many 50 kg bombs did Myrsky II carry - two or four?
2 - on which pylons 50 kg and 100 kg bombs were carried?
There is also a small amount of rifle ammunition for minor correction ''The outermost machine guns have 260 rounds each and the inner 220 rounds. There are collection boxes for empty cases." as well as the appearance of additional 150l fuel tanks.
Any additional information for this rare aircraft is welcome.
What you wrote above - I know about ammunition as well.
Equalized the number of machine gun ammunition to facilitate the VL Myrsky II fashion users.
In fashion there is a free folder for 3to the fuel tank.
I put a 3D reduced tank from Messerschmitt there. It is possible to make an authentic 3K Finnish fuel tank and put it in the FuelTank_MyrskyII folder.
I can't work with 3D Max to make an authentic tank.
I also think there are 3K pylons that are present in the folder
plane / Myrsky_II in the form
 PylonL_D0.msh and PylonR_D0.msh are better converted
in a separate pylon and put in the Arms folder.
This will allow us to supplement the list of Finnish Arms
for use in other aircraft mods.
VL Myrsky II airplane glider:
has no damage system and its own code in the section
protected void hitBone (String s, Shot shot, Point3d point3d).,
public static void moveGear code (HierMesh hiermesh, float f)
not adapted to the later patches of the game Il-2.,
the GearC2_D0 code is not correct, so the tailwheel does not rotate.
3D of the VL Myrsky II glider is rather a layout / workpiece,
which takes a lot of extra work to fully adapt
provided the game Il-2.
Most importantly, you don't have your own cockpit.,
also, the outside of the cabin is difficult to remove from the middle of the cabin.
Therefore, all my efforts for VL Myrsky II have the appearance
a patch on a coat that is not yet fully sewn with a tailor.
My preference for the Il-2 game is the tuning of fm and motors for different aircraft models of 30-40 years.
With 3Yes I sometimes work, if it's not very difficult.
I hope that the modders from your forum who have a lot of experience in 3D modeling and code programming in class will be able to bring this nice Finnish plane to a very good look in Il-2.
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(Те, що ви написали вище - я знаю, про кількість боєприпасів також.
Зрівняв кількість боєприпасів для кулеметів для полегшення  користувачів мода VL Myrsky II.
В моді є вільна папка для  3До паливного бака.
Я поклав туди подароване мені 3Д зменшеного бака від Мессершміта. Є можливість зробити автентичне 3До фінського паливного бака та покласти до папки FuelTank_MyrskyII.
Я не вмію працювати з 3Д-Максом щоб зробити автентичний бак.
Також вважаю, що 3До пілонів, що є присутні у папці
plane/Myrsky_II у вигляді
 PylonL_D0.msh та PylonR_D0.msh краще конвертувати
в окремий пілон та покласти в папку  Arms.
Цим самим ми зможемо доповнити перелік фінського Arms
для використання в інших модах літаків.
Стосовного планера літака VL Myrsky II:
не має системи пошкоджень та свого власного кода в розділі
protected void hitBone(String s, Shot shot, Point3d point3d).,
код public static void moveGear(HierMesh hiermesh, float f)
не адаптований під пізні патчі гри Іл-2.,
не вірний код GearC2_D0, тому хвостове колесо не обертається.
3до планера  VL Myrsky II скоріше є макетом/заготовкою,
що потребує багато додаткової праці для повноцінної адаптації
під умови гри Іл-2.
Найголовніше - немає свого кокпіту.,
також зовнішні меші  кабіни важко прибрати із виду з середини кабіни.
Тому всі мої старання для VL Myrsky II мають вигляд
заплаток на пальті, що ще не до кінця пошитий кравцем.
Мої уподобання в грі Іл-2 є настройка фм та моторів для різних моделей літаків періоду 30-40 років.
З 3До я інколи працюю, якщо це не дуже складно.
Маю надію, що моддери з вашого форума, що мають багато досвіду у моделюванні 3До та программуванні кодів у классах зможуть довести цей приємний фінський літак до дуже гарного вигляду в грі Іл-2.)
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Re: VL Myrsky II
« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2020, 08:52:34 AM »

http:            //forum.aviaskins.com               /showpost.php?p=204171&postcount=8689
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Re: VL Myrsky II
« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2020, 10:37:47 AM »




I added all the mods that were recommended and this happend!
I fly the latest BAT. Otherwise it flies ok.

Cheers
Barber
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Re: VL Myrsky II
« Reply #58 on: January 05, 2020, 10:56:22 AM »

Vasya, Molva Thank you for the fix 8).
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showpost.php?p=204171&postcount=8689
Vasya, Molva Дякую за виправлення 8).

Best regards,
Piotrek
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Re: VL Myrsky II
« Reply #59 on: January 05, 2020, 11:48:54 AM »

 Vasya, Molva большое спасибо, thank you very much!
Problem solved, проблема исправлена.

Cheers
Barber
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