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Re: Thorneycroft Amazon WF/AC6/1/Coles Mk VII, series 2.
« Reply #300 on: July 31, 2021, 02:30:36 AM »

Hello again guys I have built up a few images since the last update so I will post a few now instead of
a great pile later. ;)


The electrical box continues to develop as more parts of it are constructed:




I had to alter this area as I had not noticed the bottom shape when first putting it together:





The final shape is eventually arrived at and mapping can begin:





With paint, the black areas are back and front to replicate the inside of the box if I separate the parts:




With nuts and bolts, screws, and wing nuts borrowed from other areas of the build it is done apart from
the wiring:




Time to take a look at the frame that is part of the engine bay, the first bits:





The passenger side made and painted and work on placing various borrowed nuts and bolts in position:




A closer look at the photograph while making the frame showed there was also the same beam I had
made on the other side to hold the gearbox, obviously it was one long beam but I had not looked
closely enough at the reference images I had. :-[

Anyway, here we see a clone of the other side put in position:



This also necessitated a few alterations to existing parts so that all looked correct, or at least near enough:



The parts of the bay frame already done for one side were eventually cloned and with a few alterations to
one of the brackets fitted to the drivers side:





Next up will be the wiring and what I believe is the horn, until next time stay safe.


Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Thorneycroft Amazon WF/AC6/1/Coles Mk VII, series 2.
« Reply #301 on: August 04, 2021, 12:16:59 PM »

Hello again guys, last time I had a lot of images so broke it down which is why this comes so quickly. ;)

You have already seen the wires from the box, here is the larger loom connecting it all together:





The images I have do not give a clear idea of how each side is connected in through the bulkhead hole
so I just made a simple rounded piece, at the same time the metal clips that hold the flexible conduit
to the bulkhead were done:




All done and joined to the cable from the alternator/generator and mapped ready for paint:





I assumed this was the horn, if any of you know different then please let me know:





All together as best I can see and make:





When I made the steering wheel most of the detail concentrated in the cab, however, with the fresh detailing
already seen of the block in the engine bay there was also a need to add a further few details up top:




A second shaft was added to go over the original as I wanted the colour the same as the bay and this was easier
than repainting on the already finished template used earlier, again how it fixes to the bulkhead is not entirely clear
so as usual I muddled along, also added was the wiring from the horn:





All the previous stuff painted:





There are rods along the bulkhead that I think are the connections for the foot pedals, I know I said I
was not going there, you know how weak I am though:





Much of the detail is hidden so I just attempted what I could see, here it is finished and painted:





And finally, something I meant to do earlier, these I think are some kind of vibration dampers for the
fan/shroud/radiator assembly:






Quite a involved part to make but it came together slowly but surely:





I had some trouble here as the shroud had to be squashed in a little and the chassis is not quite right
at the front but rather than go to the trouble of major re-building of some parts I had to accept that
one of the two items made would have to be slightly out of position:

 




Then the moment of truth, all the recent parts were extracted and put in game:








Essentially the Thorneycroft Amazon and its Coles crane are now complete, looking around the engine bay I
could see there are still things outstanding that I could add, however, enough is enough, the vehicle is done. :o


I will pack up what is done so far and put up a new link, there are things that still want improving and of course the
damage model and lods still to be undertaken as well as the lifting straps/chains along with the roof rack but it was
time to finally bring the actual vehicle build to a close, it has been a long time in coming. :D

Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Thorneycroft Amazon WF/AC6/1/Coles Mk VII, series 2.
« Reply #302 on: August 04, 2021, 12:36:08 PM »

Well done Pete!  8)

Whats next?
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Re: Thorneycroft Amazon WF/AC6/1/Coles Mk VII, series 2.
« Reply #303 on: August 04, 2021, 01:37:41 PM »

Amazing amount of work you´ve laid down for us to enjoy! THX a lot!
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Re: Thorneycroft Amazon WF/AC6/1/Coles Mk VII, series 2.
« Reply #304 on: August 04, 2021, 04:58:25 PM »

This is your Citizen Kane Pete. How do you top this one?
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Re: Thorneycroft Amazon WF/AC6/1/Coles Mk VII, series 2.
« Reply #305 on: August 05, 2021, 04:50:42 AM »

Hello guys, thank you very much for the support and kind words, really appreciated. 8)

Well done Pete!  8)

Whats next?

Glad you like it so far rogerroger, as for what's next, the Queen Mary trailer and its tractor unit is still to come as well as the Thorneycroft articulated vehicle that you have already seen started earlier in one of my posts in this thread, when though who knows. :D

This particular vehicle also needs the lods and damage model, again when I do not know.

Amazing amount of work you´ve laid down for us to enjoy! THX a lot!

Happy to know you like what I have made so far Flying H, I will be posting a update soon. ;)

This is your Citizen Kane Pete. How do you top this one?

Good question vonofterdingen, I think we can consider the Thorneycroft unique in two ways, first
of all many of the photographs we see of historical and preserved vehicles actually show the side panels
removed to expose the engine, whether this is for technical reasons or not is not known so it almost
begs to be modelled.

Secondly and more importantly are those amazing photographs posted by the team of the Belfast
restoration, without them this model could not have had the detail it does so credit to them for
providing excellent information for us even if it was mainly intended for plastic modellers.

All in all I doubt I will be able to top this, the Lysander was also detailed but that was a player usable
asset this is a object and the remaining vehicles for the set I do not have such great information for so
they will not get the same treatment unfortunately and I have got the bug out of my system as far as
trying new shapes goes in gmax so it served a specific purpose I suppose in that I now have experience
of making all sorts of strange objects for its engine.

Will I ever utilise those objects again, only time will tell.

The intention was to upload last night, however, dope that I am I noticed I missed extracting three of the meshes
and have had to add them today. :-[

Electrical box, horn and wiring loom:







Take care and be safe.


Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D

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Re: Thorneycroft Amazon WF/AC6/1/Coles Mk VII, series 2.
« Reply #306 on: August 05, 2021, 05:28:39 AM »

Hello guys, there is now a updated link in the first post for those of you following the build. ;)


Updated WIP 5th August 2021.


This update concludes the build of the Thorneycroft Amazon Coles crane vehicle, and includes the engine detailing shown in recent threads.

There are things that could still be added to the engine bay but enough is enough, time to finish the actual vehicle itself as it has gone on for much too long.


Even though the vehicle is complete there will no doubt be areas that need improving, and if it is to be considered fully finished the things still to do are:

All the meshes require lods.

A full damage model and textures is still to be made.

Not essential but I would like to add Items for the crane jib such as chains, ropes and slings as well as a roof rack for the desert vehicle. 



There have been extensive changes to the folders to include the new build parts, please completely replace your existing folder.

Entries for the Chief, stationary and and static.ini remain the same but each hier and live file has been altered to accommodate
the new build meshes.

Thank you very much to all for the help and encouragement to get the project to this stage, really appreciated. 8)


Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Thorneycroft Amazon WF/AC6/1/Coles Mk VII, series 2.
« Reply #307 on: August 06, 2021, 01:18:26 PM »

Hello again guys, with the vehicle actually complete as such I have started to look at those other areas
on my to do list. ;)


Wheels, one of you said we required something less clunky, so here we are, trying to replicate the
earlier version with a higher polygon count:





One for the front and one for the back:





Trying to map to the original texture is proving tiresome:





The build I uploaded yesterday has the set of six wheels as a single mesh but due to the higher poly
count for these improved items that will not be possible, maybe three two wheel sets and it might be
a case of uploading the new stuff as a fix with you guys adding some new entries in the hier and live
files yourselves, not sure yet.

The work bench it seems is never empty, always something to do. :D


Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Thorneycroft Amazon WF/AC6/1/Coles Mk VII, series 2.
« Reply #308 on: August 08, 2021, 03:54:00 AM »

Hello guys, thoughts please on the wheel change. ;)


The front wheels are done, new higher polygon, the rear still as you have now:





And the question, do I leave the rear as they are because those have a very deep tread and so look
clunky anyway or update those as well seeing as one is made but not mapped yet?


Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D


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Re: Thorneycroft Amazon WF/AC6/1/Coles Mk VII, series 2.
« Reply #309 on: August 08, 2021, 04:42:23 AM »

I have a question, will the engine start? ;)

Un saludo.
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Re: Thorneycroft Amazon WF/AC6/1/Coles Mk VII, series 2.
« Reply #310 on: August 08, 2021, 04:57:48 AM »

I think there is a quality mismatch between the engine and tyres. The tyre textures probably need to be sharper, of a higher resolution and the tyres may need to be more detailed to match the engine detail. In blender the tyres look fine, but they need more definition in the game engine. Looking great otherwise. ]thumbsup[

Keep up the good work.
Keep well Pete!


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Re: Thorneycroft Amazon WF/AC6/1/Coles Mk VII, series 2.
« Reply #311 on: August 08, 2021, 05:02:01 AM »

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I have a question, will the engine start?

                                :))

Hello Pete,

That looks damn good! I want to see more of that please.

Thank you for all of your efforts to make our beloved IL-2 look better!

Best regards,

Gerhard                           
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