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Re: US Marine Aviation pack (F/A-18C/D, AV-8B+) v3.7 Beta
« Reply #72 on: March 04, 2017, 06:19:37 AM »


In this FM, AV-8B+ can keep +2.9G turn , is it still too low ?

western, an AV-8 can pull 8G
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Re: US Marine Aviation pack (F/A-18C/D, AV-8B+) v3.7 Beta
« Reply #73 on: March 04, 2017, 06:22:53 AM »


In this FM, AV-8B+ can keep +2.9G turn , is it still too low ?

western, an AV-8 can pull 8G

Thanks your information.

How do you think from where (some fm values? class codes?) this too low turn rate comes ?
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Re: US Marine Aviation pack (F/A-18C/D, AV-8B+) v3.7 Beta
« Reply #74 on: March 04, 2017, 06:33:04 AM »


In this FM, AV-8B+ can keep +2.9G turn , is it still too low ?

western, an AV-8 can pull 8G

Thanks your information.

How do you think from where (some fm values? class codes?) this too low turn rate comes ?

When the plane was released the FM was right, so i think that it depends by some java modifications.

Do you write some code that touch elevators into AV8?
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Re: US Marine Aviation pack (F/A-18C/D, AV-8B+) v3.7.2 Beta
« Reply #75 on: March 04, 2017, 07:45:12 AM »

Seems like the same issue F-100 had. (I have touched the FM for myself >.>)
It limits elevator effectivness with speed. Solution was:
1) set the elevator effectivness in FM close to 1 (it's flying elevator, it does not have fit parts)
2) set the treshold to double
3) ever thought about the center of gravity? Modded jets tend to be overly stable which creates for some fun behavior...
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Re: US Marine Aviation pack (F/A-18C/D, AV-8B+) v3.7.2 Beta
« Reply #76 on: March 04, 2017, 07:52:28 AM »

Seems like the same issue F-100 had. (I have touched the FM for myself >.>)
It limits elevator effectivness with speed. Solution was:
1) set the elevator effectivness in FM close to 1 (it's flying elevator, it does not have fit parts)
2) set the treshold to double
3) ever thought about the center of gravity? Modded jets tend to be overly stable which creates for some fun behavior...

No, it's total different

F-100 have a code that reduce lift at high speed, as all other planes, to avoid arcade 20G turns at mach 1.

Here the AV-8 don't want to turn from low speed
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Re: US Marine Aviation pack (F/A-18C/D, AV-8B+) v3.7.2 Beta
« Reply #77 on: March 04, 2017, 07:58:51 AM »

I might edit stab square value in FM.

I'll look into them and tune to enable 8G turn.

Modern stabilator (all flying elevator) design in FM is a bit hard.
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Re: US Marine Aviation pack (F/A-18C/D, AV-8B+) v3.7.2 Beta
« Reply #78 on: March 04, 2017, 08:55:31 AM »

I have look into FM and modified some stuffs, seems much better than first, but to be good i had to create a computeLift and a computeEnergy methods for it

I will post you modified classes and FM!  ;)
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Re: US Marine Aviation pack (F/A-18C/D, AV-8B+) v3.7.2 Beta
« Reply #79 on: March 04, 2017, 10:30:13 AM »

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hi Tarakanz, I had the same problem once before and I found out that the new P-40 mods from Free Modding would cause this.

Exactly the same thing for me (412.2 ma 5.3),I deleted the mod and everything is back in order.
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Re: US Marine Aviation pack (F/A-18C/D, AV-8B+) v3.7.2 Beta
« Reply #80 on: March 04, 2017, 12:55:37 PM »

Seems like the same issue F-100 had. (I have touched the FM for myself >.>)
It limits elevator effectivness with speed. Solution was:
1) set the elevator effectivness in FM close to 1 (it's flying elevator, it does not have fit parts)
2) set the treshold to double
3) ever thought about the center of gravity? Modded jets tend to be overly stable which creates for some fun behavior...

No, it's total different

F-100 have a code that reduce lift at high speed, as all other planes, to avoid arcade 20G turns at mach 1.

Here the AV-8 don't want to turn from low speed

Not really, F-100's method affected elevator. Allowing 3G turns max. The max G's are limited by stalling...
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Re: US Marine Aviation pack (F/A-18C/D, AV-8B+) v3.7.2 Beta
« Reply #81 on: March 04, 2017, 02:49:00 PM »

Seems like the same issue F-100 had. (I have touched the FM for myself >.>)
It limits elevator effectivness with speed. Solution was:
1) set the elevator effectivness in FM close to 1 (it's flying elevator, it does not have fit parts)
2) set the treshold to double
3) ever thought about the center of gravity? Modded jets tend to be overly stable which creates for some fun behavior...

No, it's total different

F-100 have a code that reduce lift at high speed, as all other planes, to avoid arcade 20G turns at mach 1.

Here the AV-8 don't want to turn from low speed

Not really, F-100's method affected elevator. Allowing 3G turns max. The max G's are limited by stalling...

LOL, i don't know what mods you have installed, but in my game F-100 turns fine, also 7,5/8G with half fuel
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Re: US Marine Aviation pack (F/A-18C/D, AV-8B+) v3.7.2 Beta
« Reply #82 on: March 04, 2017, 02:50:40 PM »

anyway, western seems that AV-8B strange behaviour is due VTOL code.

Do you change it or is the same from release by S3?
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Re: US Marine Aviation pack (F/A-18C/D, AV-8B+) v3.7.2 Beta
« Reply #83 on: March 04, 2017, 03:58:39 PM »

hi Tarakanz, I had the same problem once before and I found out that the new P-40 mods from Free Modding would cause this.
Thank you, that was the problem.
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