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Re: Map of Poland 1939
« Reply #108 on: January 27, 2016, 04:44:04 AM »

Hi Uzin

Is Warzawa-Okecie missing from the Poland-1939 map?
None of the airfields around Warzaw looks like Okecie AFAICT.

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Re: Map of Poland 1939
« Reply #109 on: January 27, 2016, 12:35:29 PM »

I am not at my PC  for a while, but I think AF around Warsaw were made strictly historical, according to the List of Polish airfields.
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Oops !
I am now on my rig and found that Okecie AF is present on Poland 1944 map but not on Poland 1939, as it should be ! Wisiting Wikipedia, I found that Okecie AF was built in 1934. Unfortunately, I relied too much upon "Atlas Lornisk Polskich 1933", and omited Okiecie AF. Many thanks for reminder, you can take AF from Poland 1944 map, if needed. Enlisted into repairs of the map. in some future.
Excuse me again.
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Re: Map of Poland 1939
« Reply #110 on: February 04, 2016, 05:08:42 AM »

Hi Uzin

I've found some railway tracks not connected:

Railway NE Schlochau


Railways West Grudziadz


Railway North Bytom


Is this information of any interest to you?
I might bump into more issues later on.

I've also had problems getting the trains to pass the railway bridges, but I'm a FMB newbie so that is perhaps a normal problem?

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Re: Map of Poland 1939
« Reply #111 on: February 04, 2016, 05:53:27 AM »

Many thanks, vonOben.
I decided to repair Poland 1939 map now.

So far I have done:

1. Pabianice , Ksawerow,  Widzew added
2. Added some german AF : Neudorf, Oels, Juliusburg
2. Added some polish AF:Okecie, Dzierznica, Szpondowo, Ulez, ,Widzew-Ksawerow, Zielonka
4. Forts around Poznan added
5. Some bridges and position of Kock corrected

To do:

1. Neisse lake of 70ties remove (by correcting Mymap_c.tga file) as on 44 map. EDIT: Done.

2. ed_m0X.tga aktualize
3. Add BFP to all AF
4. Repair any other issues you or anybody else will notice.

Thanks for cooperation.

N.B.:
Neudorf is that SW of Bresslau ?



Please, indicate the railway  bridges causing troubles.

N.B.2:
Rails shown in reply 110 repaired.
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Re: Map of Poland 1939
« Reply #112 on: February 05, 2016, 02:06:26 AM »

Hi Uzin

Perfect!
Thank you very much, for the improvements on the Poland 1939 map  :) :)

I've fond a pdf called Airfields - Germany [1937 Borders].pdf at the www.ww2.dk site with this information:

Neudorf   (GER)  (a.k.a. Neudorf-Oppeln; today: Polska Nowa Wies)
(50 38 10 N - 17 47 00 E)     
General:   operational airfield (Einsatzhafen) in Silesia 76 km SE of
Breslau (Wroclaw), 11 km WSW of Oppeln (Opole) and 1.2 km SW of
the village of Neudorf (Nowa Wies).
History:  built 1938-39.   Used by operational units during the attack
on Poland in Sep 39, but thereafter became a training station for
single-engine elementary flight schools.
Dimensions:  approx. 825 x 960 meters (900 x 1050 yards) and
rectangular in shape.
Surface and Runways:  grass surface.   No pave runway.   Equipped
with boundary and obstruction lighting as well as a flare path for night
landings.
Fuel and Ammunition:  bulk fuel storage was among the workshops off
the S boundary.   A large munitions dump was in a forest 3.25 km SE
of the landing area and a smaller dump 1 km to the SW.
Infrastructure:  had 3 large and 1 medium hangar off the S boundary
with interconnected paved aprons.   Workshops were off the SE
boundary grouped around the medium hangar and the station motor
pool and garages just E of that.   All of the station buildings, including
admin offices, barracks and messes, were grouped behind the hangars
off the S boundary.   A branch rail spur from the Oppeln-Neisse rail
line served the S and W sides of the airfield.
Dispersal:  a number of aircraft bays were cut into the woods on the
NW, W and SE sides of the landing area.
Defenses:  unknown.
Remarks:  none.
- 470 -Luftwaffe Airfields 1935-45
Operational Units:   IV./KG 254 (Sep-Oct 38); Stab, I., II./St.G. 77
(Aug-Sep 39); Stab/KG 26 (Sep 39); I./KG 53 (Sep 39); IV./KG z.b.V.
1 (Sep 39); III./KG 55 (Dec 39 - Mar 40); III./SG 10 (Jan-Feb 44);
School Units:   FFS A/B 116 (Dec 39 - Jun 41); FFS A/B 4 later FFS A
4 (Sep 41 - Jan 45); Arbeitsplatz for FFS A/B 110 (Stubendorf) (1940-
43).
Reserve Training & Replacement Units:  4.(Pz.)/SG 152 (Nov 43 - Apr
44).
Station Commands:   as Fl.H.Kdtr. Neudorf (to c. Feb 43); Fl.Pl.Kdo. A
3/VIII (c. Feb 43 - Mar 44); Fl.H.Kdtr. A(o) 4/VIII (Apr 44 - Jan 45).
Kommandant (mainly prior to the establishment of numbered station
commands - not complete):   Obstlt. Dr. Werner Ulmer  (Apr 40  -     ?
); Obstlt. Herbert Hülsewig  (   ?     -     ?   ) 3/42.
Station Units (on various dates - not complete):   7.
Flugh.Betr.Kp./KG 55 (Dec 39 - Mar 40); Werft-Abt. 10/VIII (1944 -
Jan 45); Werft-Abt. 107/VIII (Dec 44); elements of Werft-Kp. 32/VIII
(Jan 42); Trsp.Kol. d.Lw. 29/VII (Apr 43 - ? ); Trsp.Kol. d.Lw. 19/XVII
(May 43 - ? ); Trsp.Kol. d.Lw. 22/XVII (May 43 - ? ).
[Sources:  AFHRA A5258 pp.744-46 (26 Jun 44); chronologies; BA-
MA; NARA; PRO/NA; web site ww2.dk]


I hope it helps.

I'll get back to you regarding the railway bridges.

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Re: Map of Poland 1939
« Reply #113 on: February 05, 2016, 06:17:43 AM »

Superior info VonOben.
Your ticket to the RusskiFront has been cancelled !

Nice work.

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Re: Map of Poland 1939
« Reply #114 on: February 06, 2016, 04:28:15 AM »

Thank you Kopfdorfer!  :)

Uzin, the railway bridges are probably working as they should, it was only because I'm a FMB newbie that I had problems to get the trains over bridges. I've learnt how to do it now.

After a lot of testing in DGen_mod have I now been able to get a decent start frontline for September 1:st, 1939 IMHO.
But I had to make Konitz and Schneidemuhl Polish, because the lack of Polish towns in the North west part of the map.





A more accurate DGen_mod frontline wold be possible if you could add two towns where I have made the purple dots, for example Tuchola and Chodzoez.  ;)

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Re: Map of Poland 1939
« Reply #115 on: February 06, 2016, 10:22:38 AM »

Tuchola and Chodziez added.
Plating of AF with BFP continues.
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Re: Map of Poland 1939
« Reply #116 on: February 07, 2016, 12:40:22 AM »

Many thanks Uzin  :)

Much appreciated!   :)

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Re: Map of Poland 1939
« Reply #117 on: February 08, 2016, 03:26:39 AM »

Plating of AF with BlankFieldPlates finished yesterday.
Files ed_m01.tga and ed_m02.tga will be revised this week.

Betatesters  of revised Poland 1939 map can send me PM for beta version,
their help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Map of Poland 1939
« Reply #118 on: February 11, 2016, 04:29:42 AM »

Hi Uzin

When I checked your map in FMB I had some problems identifying the name of some of the airfields.
There are for example  a few airfields around Warzawa and Breslau I couldn't identify.
Any chance you could add names for those airfields that doesn't have a name?

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Re: Map of Poland 1939
« Reply #119 on: February 11, 2016, 09:52:34 AM »

When I checked your map in FMB I had some problems identifying the name of some of the airfields.
There are for example  a few airfields around Warzawa and Breslau I couldn't identify.
Any chance you could add names for those airfields that doesn't have a name?

I am not sure that those AF are named, they are probably made on the data found as follows: " auxilliary AF was 5 km SE of the village so and so" . But I shall look at this question later.
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