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Sud-Est SE 100 / Liore-et-Olivier LeO 50
« on: October 07, 2013, 02:00:09 PM »


Sud-Est SE 100 / Liore-et-Olivier LeO 50

The SNCASE SE 100 (Sud-Est SE 100) was a French two-seat, twin-engined fighter which first flew in 1939. Mass production was planned to begin late in 1940 but the Fall of France prevented this.
 
The origins of the SE.100 predate the creation of the SNCASE (Sud-Est) company in the nationalisations of 1937.
The aircraft was of conventional all-metal construction, mid-wing layout. The fuselage was short in appearance, with a long nose and a very short tail. The aircraft proved to be around 100 km/h faster than the Potez 631, the French Air Force's current twin-engined fighter.

At least two paper variants were studied, the SE.101 powered by Pratt & Whitney Twin Wasp engines, and the SE.102 powered by a different version of the Gnome-Rhône 14N.
Specifications

General characteristics
 Crew: 2
 Length: 11.80 m (38 ft 8½in)
 Wingspan: 15.70 m (51 ft 6 in)
 Height: 4.28 m (14 ft 0½ in)
 Wing area: 33 m² (355 ft²)
 Loaded weight: 7500 kg (16,500 lb)
 Powerplant: 2 × Gnome-Rhône 14N-20/21 14-cylinder air-cooled two-row radial engines, 806 kW (1,080 hp) each
 
Performance
 Maximum speed: 580 km/h (360 mph, 313 knots) at 6500 m (21,300 ft)
 Ceiling: ? m
 Cruise speed: 499 km/h (310 mph[3], 270 knots)
 Range: 1300 km (810 mi, 700 NM)
 
Armament

 Guns:
MG: 6 x 20mm Hispano-Suiza HS-9 (forward-firing battery),
2 x 20mm HS-9 (dorsal canopy) & 1 x 20mm HS-9 (ventral hatch)
Bombs: -

http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files/2-Airplanes/Allies/4-France/01-Fighters/SE-100LeO-50/SE-100LeO-50.htm
http://weaponsandwarfare.com/?p=4940


  With the issue of an official specification for a twin-engined fighter to replace the Potez 631, Pierre Mercier and Jacques Lecarme of the Société Nationale de Constructions Aéronautiques de Sud-Est (SNCASE) projected an unconventional three-seat aircraft carrying an armament of three 0.787 in (20 mm) cannon, powered by two 800 hp Gnome & Rhône 14 Super-Mars radials and designated LeO 50 (the Liore-et-Olivier works being a part of the SNCASE).
It was soon obvious that the LeO 50 would be underpowered and would not meet the specification's performance requirements. The basic design was, therefore, scaled-up, 1,030 hp Gnome & Rhône 14N fourteen-cylinder air-cooled radial engines were incorporated and, redesignated S.E. 100, prototype construction commenced in April 1938 at La Courneuve, near Paris.

The wing was of wooden construction and comprised a one-piece torsion box of spruce to which the leading and trailing edges were attached with steel strips. The torsion box housed fuel tanks between the fuselage and engine nacelles, and in order to provide the maximum flap area, the ailerons articulated obliquely at the extreme tips of the wings. The Mercier engine cowlings were similar to those of the LeO 451 bomber, and the fuselage was a welded steel-tube structure with duralumin skinning.

The undercarriage was unusual in that it comprised a single large nose wheel with small outrigger wheels retracting into the vertical tail surfaces. The nose wheel was steerable and was claimed to be the first of its type to be tested. The outrigger or auxiliary wheels were taken from a Dewoitine D.500 fighter.
The S.E.100-01 longe-range escort an d attack fighter was flown for the first time from Villacoublay on March 29, 1939. During the ensuing tests a small retractable ventral fin was added and, in February 1940, the aircraft was ferried from Villacoublay to Marignane in 1 hr 17 min.



At Marignane, as a result of various refinements, including improved wing root fairings and new airscrew spinners, the maximum speed was increased from 348 to 360 mph (560 to 579 kmh), and the prototype performed extremely well until, in April 1940, the S.E.100-01 crashed when the pitch of one airscrew was reversed inadvertently at low altitude.

In the meantime, a second prototype had been built at La Courneuve, this differing from its predecessor in some respects. The forward-firing armament was increased from two to three 0.787 in (20 mm) cannon, and rear-firing armament was boosted from one 0.787 in (20 mm) cannon on a SAMM electro-pneumatic mount in the observer's cockpit to two 0.787 in (20 mm) cannon in a dorsal turret and one 0.787 in (20 mm) cannon on a ventral mount.

The communications tunnel between the cockpits was removed in order to increase fuselage fuel capacity, and the lower fuselage tank was made removable so that bomb racks could be installed in its place. The German occupation of Paris prevented the S.E.100-02 being flown at Villacoublay and no further examples were build.
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Re: Sud-Est SE 100 / Liore-et-Olivier LeO 50
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2013, 03:09:48 AM »

Nice documentation. Do you have any information on the books the internal views are taken from?
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Re: Sud-Est SE 100 / Liore-et-Olivier LeO 50
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2013, 04:37:40 AM »

Hello everyone :)
@Pursuivant
Nice documentation. Do you have any information on the books the internal views are taken from?
Thank you.
The book is called:
DOCUMENT'AIR N ° 4 / SNCASE SE 100,CHASSEUR LOURD
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AVIATION-DOCUMENTAIR-SNCASE-SE-100-CHASSEUR-LOURD-/150920782574
... a very strange bird indeed ...

http://jaguar4604.skyrock.com/3163621298-Suite-de-nos-avions-bizarres-ou-proto-le-SNCASE-SE-100.html
@Mick
It's really strange but it would be a great addition to the game. ;)
regards
Piotrek
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Re: Sud-Est SE 100 / Liore-et-Olivier LeO 50
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2013, 05:51:13 AM »

strange indeed.....i like strange :D
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Re: Sud-Est SE 100 / Liore-et-Olivier LeO 50
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2013, 06:00:13 AM »

Love french airplane designs from that period (after some beers, of course.. :D)
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Re: Sud-Est SE 100 / Liore-et-Olivier LeO 50
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2013, 06:56:09 AM »

It is a very interesting aircraft indeed. My only doubt that how strong should be the horizontal stabilizer to withstand the rough landings?
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Re: Sud-Est SE 100 / Liore-et-Olivier LeO 50
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2013, 10:04:25 AM »

... did you notice the flaps at the tip of the wings ...??

In fact only 2 prototypes were built (the second one not even completed at the Citroën plant, because of the German invasion and Paris occupation), and the first one was lost (pilot and mechanic killed) on April 5th 1940 because of the right engine propeller pitch failure upon landing ...
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Re: Sud-Est SE 100 / Liore-et-Olivier LeO 50
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2013, 05:13:19 PM »

Looks like a toy plane!  ???
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Re: Sud-Est SE 100 / Liore-et-Olivier LeO 50
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2013, 10:50:20 AM »

I already know this ugly plane, but it will be fun to have it ingame
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