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chanklaus

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WWII photos: gunner of Fw-189 took images from "Eastern Front"
« on: February 04, 2010, 04:55:31 AM »

Hi neighbors,

just found an article in a German news web page. It appears that yet unknown photos from the "Eastern Front" appeared, taken by the rear gunner of a Fw-189. They try to find out where and from whom the photos were taken.

Anyhow, the pictures are interesting.
Have a look:
http://einestages.spiegel.de/static/topicalbumbackground/6041/das_raetsel_des_fliegenden_auges.html

Gest greetings and wishes

chanklaus
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Re: WWII photos: gunner of Fw-189 took images from "Eastern Front"
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2010, 07:20:20 AM »

Thanks for sharing. The photos appear to be from Aufklärungsgruppe 10 (recon). Maybe it says that in the text but I can't read much German.
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Re: WWII photos: gunner of Fw-189 took images from "Eastern Front"
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2010, 07:24:36 AM »

I have most of these in higher resolution.  They were posted to the internets about half a year ago.  Some are incredibly detailed.
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Re: WWII photos: gunner of Fw-189 took images from "Eastern Front"
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2010, 07:33:22 AM »

Thanks for posting Chanklaus.

Any chance of a link to the high res ones, AKD?- I find these photos fascinating.

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Re: WWII photos: gunner of Fw-189 took images from "Eastern Front"
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2010, 08:41:37 AM »

Wow those are really great.  Its amazing how similar "war photos" from 70 years ago look like my "war photos" from today.  Same subjects, same angles, same light.


On another topic, what is the "juicer" looking attachment on the spinner ahead of the prop on the 189 for?  It looks like it is fixed pitch, so the only thing I can think of is cooling, but then its outside of the cowling so that doesn't seem effective.  Maybe a hydraulic pump that works off some drag principle of some type?


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Re: WWII photos: gunner of Fw-189 took images from "Eastern Front"
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2010, 10:21:22 AM »



I think this might be the link:


http://englishrussia.com/?p=2952#more-2952

Great pictures . . .


Greetings     the Sandman
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Re: WWII photos: gunner of Fw-189 took images from "Eastern Front"
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2010, 12:52:00 AM »

Wow those are really great.  Its amazing how similar "war photos" from 70 years ago look like my "war photos" from today.  Same subjects, same angles, same light.


On another topic, what is the "juicer" looking attachment on the spinner ahead of the prop on the 189 for?  It looks like it is fixed pitch, so the only thing I can think of is cooling, but then its outside of the cowling so that doesn't seem effective.  Maybe a hydraulic pump that works off some drag principle of some type?


Mud

You are correct in that the airflow turns it, and it powers the pitch mechanism for the propellor. Kinda wierd looking, but it makes any aircraft powered by an Argus 410 pretty easy to recognize. ;)

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Re: WWII photos: gunner of Fw-189 took images from "Eastern Front"
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2010, 04:25:19 AM »

Thanks for the link to the high res versions, Sandman. Amazing photos.
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Re: WWII photos: gunner of Fw-189 took images from "Eastern Front"
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2010, 03:02:08 AM »

The identity of the photographer and his history have been found out:

http://einestages.spiegel.de/static/topicalbumbackground/6182/jagd_auf_das_fliegende_auge.html

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Re: WWII photos: gunner of Fw-189 took images from "Eastern Front"
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2010, 07:28:49 AM »

Can anybody explain  what is on the pictures, please ?
I mean what the town, what is the crowd of people for, and so on.
Just curious.
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Re: WWII photos: gunner of Fw-189 took images from "Eastern Front"
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2010, 11:35:53 AM »

Hello Uzin,

Going by the link that Chankalus posted, I believe that the colour pictures refer to war crimes committed by SS and Wehrmacht forces in September 1941, near Kiev.

"Er [Johannes Karl Haehle] ist der Fotograf, der eine der vielleicht wichtigsten Bilderserien des Zweiten Weltkriegs aufnahm. Am 29. und 30. September 1941 ermordeten SS-Männer des Sonderkommandos 4a, unterstützt von der Wehrmacht, in der Schlucht von Babij Jar am Stadtrand von Kiew 33.771 jüdische Männer, Frauen und Kinder - eines der größten Massaker des Holocaust. Und es war der PK-"Bildberichter" Johannes Hähle, der die Spuren dieses unbeschreiblichen Verbrechens festhielt - in Farbe, auf Agfacolor, in insgesamt 29 Bildern."

Translation:

"He [Johannes Karl Haehle] is the photographer, who created perhaps one of the most important picture sequences of the Second World War. On September 29 and 30, 1941, SS troops from special detachment 4a, with support from Wehrmacht forces, murdered 33.771 Jewish men, women and children in the Babij Jar gorge, on the outskirts of Kiev - one of the largest massacres of the Holocaust. And it was propaganda photographer Johannes Haehle, who documented the traces of this indescribable crime, in colour, on Agfacolor film, in a total of 29 images."

I know that politics is off limits in this forum. However, Uzin asked and this is an important part of what the article says that Chanklaus linked to. I just wanted to include it for the record.

Regards,

FW
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Re: WWII photos: gunner of Fw-189 took images from "Eastern Front"
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2010, 04:57:14 PM »

Thanks, guys. I suspected something of that kind.
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