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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1
« Reply #648 on: July 30, 2015, 03:31:00 PM »

VERSION 3.0 OF SAS MIG-21

also here important news, so this version will be the 3.0 and not the 2.3

3.0 news

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1) The FM was modelled using FM Debug Tools provided by benitomuso (PAL). This new tool allowed me a more accurate and fast modeling of stall and turns characteristics;

2) Another new feature, a new code for energy bleed in turns vs speed, now the energy loss in turns is more balanced along the spectrum of the speeds, for both standard or flaps configuration;

3) Again, a new code for max AOA managing vs speed, now stall behaviour is more realistic, it works for standard configuration, flaps, positive and negative AOA;




the features contained in previous Patches are all included

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1) the new lift code, it simulate lift vs speed;

2) new afterburner code, it simulate thrust vs altitude;

3) flight model much close to 3rd generation;

4) new supersonic drag code, finally it can reach  supersonic speeds with stores;

5) New Pits from Tom2;

6) Some bug fixed;


Performances are similar to Mig-21S, just a bit worse in climb compared to MF

all climb in level fligh over 17 kilometers in overheat

top speed: mach 2

best turn speed at sea level: mach 0.6

AUTOPILOT! KEYS ARE MISC_1 AND MISC_2

New cockpit with working radar from 1.1, no radar text anymore!!







Installation:

to install version 2.0 you had to completely delete previous version and put new folder into your mods bay, this upgrade use different classfiles!! 

download version 3.0!     ONLY 4.12

https://www.mediafire.com/download/q3gx3uy2g2tfoxg/SAS_MiG_21_V3.0.rar

readme inside

be careful, you had to change air.ini strings

delete old strings and add these!

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MiG-21FL   air.MIG21FL            NOINFO   r01 SUMMER
MiG-21PF   air.MIG21PF            NOINFO   r01 SUMMER
MiG-21PFM   air.MIG21PFM            NOINFO   r01 SUMMER
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1 + V2.0 Vega
« Reply #649 on: July 30, 2015, 04:59:53 PM »

Many thanks Vega! Link added to post #1.  ;)
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1 + V2.0 Vega
« Reply #650 on: July 30, 2015, 05:10:08 PM »

soon should arrive a 2.1 version with upgraded pit by tom2
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1 + V2.0 Vega
« Reply #651 on: July 30, 2015, 06:00:29 PM »

Thanks !
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1 + V2.0 Vega
« Reply #652 on: July 30, 2015, 06:53:04 PM »

Hi Vega, I will pm you the cockpit stuff via links copied from the 3rd Gen Mig thread and my cockpit thread..for the 2nd Gen..will be a bit of work to sort it what you like to use.
Which version you chose for PFM/PF colours is your choice, I leave it up to you. :P
My private folder has by now 3 versions for PFMs (two green/blueish, one black) and two for PFs (one bluegreen, one black).

A bug?
In my MA 5.3 install, I only changed the air.ini and inserted your new mod, I have no weapons for Mig-21PFM. :-\
I am not sure what I did wrong. I will post a logfile in this post in a few minutes. ;) Will edit it soon.
Logfile excerpt, MA 5.3, Marine Aviation pack added, 3rd Gen Mig-21s not yet upgraded:

The radar stuff is irrelevant as I use my custom pits without the new hier.him radar meshes
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[02:54:12] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 1e+015 -> 1e+006 (delta = -1e+015) to Range 0..1e+006
[02:54:12] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 1e+015 -> 1e+006 (delta = -1e+015) to Range 0..1e+006
[02:54:12] FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21PFM.fmd:MIG21' is being loaded from File: 'mig21'
[02:54:12] FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21PFM.fmd:MIG21' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'mig21'
[02:54:12] FM called 'FlightModels/Tumanski:MIG21.emd' is being loaded from File: 'mig21'
[02:54:12] FM called 'FlightModels/Tumanski:MIG21.emd' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'mig21'
[02:54:12] Flight Model File FlightModels/MiG-21PFM.fmd:MIG21 contains no Mach Drag Parameters.
[02:54:12] FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21PFM.fmd:MIG21' is being loaded from File: 'mig21'
[02:54:12] FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21PFM.fmd:MIG21' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'mig21'
[02:54:13] ERROR loading sound control sample.339_idle_x4.wav.rpm
[02:54:16] cannot open file for reading
[02:54:16] Cannot open audio file samples/339_fuelsystem.wav
[02:54:16]
[02:54:18] FM called 'FlightModels/P-38LLate.fmd' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'gui/game/buttons'
[02:54:18] FM called 'FlightModels/Allison.emd' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'gui/game/buttons'
[02:54:18] Motor resolveFromFile starter = 0
[02:54:18] Motor resolveFromFile starter = 0
[02:54:18] FM called 'FlightModels/Allison.emd' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'gui/game/buttons'
[02:54:18] Motor resolveFromFile starter = 0
[02:54:18] Motor resolveFromFile starter = 0
[02:54:18] FM called 'FlightModels/P-38LLate.fmd' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'gui/game/buttons'
[02:54:21] FM called 'FlightModels/P-47D-30.fmd:P47Pack_FM' is being loaded from File: 'p47pack_fm'
[02:54:21] FM called 'FlightModels/P-47D-30.fmd:P47Pack_FM' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'p47pack_fm'
[02:54:21] FM called 'FlightModels/PW_R-2800_Series:P47Pack_FM.emd' is being loaded from File: 'p47pack_fm'
[02:54:21] FM called 'FlightModels/PW_R-2800_Series:P47Pack_FM.emd' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'p47pack_fm'
[02:54:21] Motor resolveFromFile starter = 0
[02:54:21] Motor resolveFromFile starter = 0
[02:54:21] FM called 'FlightModels/P-47D-30.fmd:P47Pack_FM' is being loaded from File: 'p47pack_fm'
[02:54:21] FM called 'FlightModels/P-47D-30.fmd:P47Pack_FM' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'p47pack_fm'
[02:54:22] FM called 'FlightModels/Bf-109G-6Early.fmd' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'gui/game/buttons'
[02:54:22] FM called 'FlightModels/DB-600_Series.emd' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'gui/game/buttons'
[02:54:22] Motor resolveFromFile starter = 5
[02:54:22] Motor resolveFromFile starter = 5
[02:54:22] FM called 'FlightModels/Bf-109G-6Early.fmd' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'gui/game/buttons'
[02:54:23] FM called 'FlightModels/Ju-87G-2(ofRudel).fmd' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'gui/game/buttons'
[02:54:23] FM called 'FlightModels/Jumo211.emd' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'gui/game/buttons'
[02:54:23] Motor resolveFromFile starter = 5
[02:54:23] Motor resolveFromFile starter = 5
[02:54:23] FM called 'FlightModels/Ju-87G-2(ofRudel).fmd' is being loaded from Alternative File: 'gui/game/buttons'
[02:54:24] ERROR file: File users/0/Icons not found
[02:54:24] Mission: QuickQMBPro/ag_Casablanca/ag_CasablancaRedNone00.mis is Playing
[02:54:24] INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'Z_Z_RETICLE'
[02:54:26] Time overflow (0): speed 0.42462844
[02:54:26] warning: no files : music/inflight
[02:54:26] INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'Radarmark01'
[02:54:26] INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'RadarA01'
[02:54:26] INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'RadarB01'
...
[02:54:26] INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'Radarmark05'
[02:54:26] INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'RadarA05'
[02:54:26] INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'RadarB05'
[02:54:26] INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'Radarmark06'
...
[02:54:27] Time overflow (20): speed 0.72289157
[02:54:29] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 55 -> 32 (delta = -23) to Range 0..32
[02:54:29] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0.15 -> 0.1 (delta = -0.05) to Range 0..0.1
[02:54:30] INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'RadarIFF00'
[....
[02:55:13] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 3 -> 0.1 (delta = -2.9) to Range 0..0.1
[02:55:40] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 55 -> 32 (delta = -23) to Range 0..32
[02:55:40] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0.15 -> 0.1 (delta = -0.05) to Range 0..0.1
[02:55:48] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 3 -> 0.1 (delta = -2.9) to Range 0..0.1
[02:55:53] WARNING: Clear VBuf 117507
[02:55:53] WARNING: Clear IBuf 327480
[02:56:15] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 55 -> 32 (delta = -23) to Range 0..32
[02:56:15] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0.15 -> 0.1 (delta = -0.05) to Range 0..0.1
[02:56:52] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 55 -> 32 (delta = -23) to Range 0..32
[02:56:52] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0.15 -> 0.1 (delta = -0.05) to Range 0..0.1
[02:56:56] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 55 -> 32 (delta = -23) to Range 0..32
[02:56:56] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0.15 -> 0.1 (delta = -0.05) to Range 0..0.1
[02:56:58] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 55 -> 32 (delta = -23) to Range 0..32
[02:56:58] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0.15 -> 0.1 (delta = -0.05) to Range 0..0.1
[02:58:23] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 55 -> 32 (delta = -23) to Range 0..32
[02:58:23] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0.15 -> 0.1 (delta = -0.05) to Range 0..0.1
[02:58:45] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 55 -> 32 (delta = -23) to Range 0..32
[02:58:45] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0.15 -> 0.1 (delta = -0.05) to Range 0..0.1
[02:58:58] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 3 -> 0.1 (delta = -2.9) to Range 0..0.1
[02:59:13] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 3 -> 0.1 (delta = -2.9) to Range 0..0.1
[02:59:35] WARNING: Clear VBuf 115720
[02:59:35] WARNING: Clear IBuf 327408
[03:01:58] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 55 -> 32 (delta = -23) to Range 0..32
[03:01:58] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0.15 -> 0.1 (delta = -0.05) to Range 0..0.1
[03:02:18] WARNING: Clear VBuf 115720
[03:02:18] WARNING: Clear IBuf 327408
[03:02:45] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 55 -> 32 (delta = -23) to Range 0..32
[03:02:45] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0.15 -> 0.1 (delta = -0.05) to Range 0..0.1
[03:03:50] WARNING: Clear VBuf 115680
[03:03:50] WARNING: Clear IBuf 327402
[03:04:38] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 55 -> 32 (delta = -23) to Range 0..32
[03:04:38] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0.15 -> 0.1 (delta = -0.05) to Range 0..0.1
[03:05:06] WARNING: Clear VBuf 115572
[03:05:06] WARNING: Clear IBuf 327354
[03:05:25] warning: no files : music/takeoff
[03:05:32] * Correctly set up 'Default' weapons for Plane: 'UM_NN000'
[03:05:51] WARNING: Clear VBuf 115720
[03:05:51] WARNING: Clear IBuf 327408
[03:06:16] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 55 -> 32 (delta = -23) to Range 0..32
[03:06:16] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0.15 -> 0.1 (delta = -0.05) to Range 0..0.1
[03:06:29] WARNING: Clear VBuf 115720
[03:06:29] WARNING: Clear IBuf 327408
[03:07:08] WARNING: Clear VBuf 115720
[03:07:08] WARNING: Clear IBuf 327408
[31.07.2015 03:07:31] -------------- END log session -------------

Greets

T.



PS:
Only flown the PFM so far, the FM rocks IMO!
Only thing I dislike is flaps are still 2 stages.

Landed nice! Rolls are nice, rudder seems more effective, top speeds a bit higher, high G turns so far convincing. Maybe a bit low on the AOA upper limit, but overall very, very nice.
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1 + V2.0 Vega
« Reply #653 on: July 31, 2015, 06:05:22 AM »

Tom, you had to replace folder, not overwrite
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1 + V2.0 Vega
« Reply #654 on: July 31, 2015, 12:55:09 PM »

link upgraded with 2.1
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1 + V2.1 Vega
« Reply #655 on: July 31, 2015, 02:11:56 PM »

Gracie/Many thanks, Vega.
Cheers, thanks for updating!

My bug was simply another of the odler folders active, the old #_Mig-21 folder.

Tomorrow I will fly the shit out of the Migs, I hope, along WWII.
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1 + V2.1 Vega
« Reply #656 on: July 31, 2015, 03:38:44 PM »

 The new update is fantastic. I enjoy just landing, these jets. Much better handling.  Great work.
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1 + V2.1 Vega
« Reply #657 on: August 01, 2015, 04:13:44 AM »

Vega is the Master of FM!!!!
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1 + V2.1 Vega
« Reply #658 on: August 01, 2015, 08:15:17 AM »

For me, all three cockpits are blue-green, and the two should be black.
Where did I make a mistake and what to do to fix it.
The previous version of the flash removed and the installed from scratch.
Greetings
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1 + V2.1 Vega
« Reply #659 on: August 01, 2015, 09:23:00 AM »

Really good :) I can't fly now though - joystick is broken again...

...Thorsten - the flaps are correct as they are on PFM now.
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