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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1
« Reply #636 on: October 20, 2014, 01:54:38 PM »

Note that this Mig-21 mod version ( second gen ) came out v1 without radar.

Then third gen mod was made with radar.  http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,37264.0.html

Then Mig-21 V1.1 updated is now radar equipped (developed on the SM-12 mod).

So a last resort would be to have the file from third gen in your game ( edit ini lines later). This may also provide some support...

Come to think of it, try V1.0 without the update and the hotfix first, to see if it works...
Unfortunately nothing works. It crashes when loading a mission at about 40+ percent.

Good luck with that !
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1
« Reply #637 on: October 20, 2014, 08:37:37 PM »

? Error log. ? Mission loading 35%+  = loading aircraft.... ( 40 ? ! ). Again: all missions ? Does same mission work with another aircraft, would be good to know.  :(
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1
« Reply #638 on: October 21, 2014, 11:13:11 AM »

The missions work(all of them) with other aircraft, but not with MiG-21's.
Here's the log (as I understand these parts are relevant):
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Load static objects
NetAircraft error, ID_03: java.io.EOFException
NetAircraft error, ID_03: java.io.EOFException
NetAircraft error, ID_03: java.io.EOFException
NetAircraft error, ID_03: java.io.EOFException
NetAircraft error, ID_03: java.io.EOFException
NetAircraft error, ID_03: java.io.EOFException
NetAircraft error, ID_03: java.io.EOFException
NetAircraft error, ID_03: java.io.EOFException
NetAircraft error, ID_03: java.io.EOFException
NetAircraft error, ID_03: java.io.EOFException
NetAircraft error, ID_03: java.io.EOFException
NetAircraft error, ID_03: java.io.EOFException
NetAircraft error, ID_03: java.io.EOFException
SectFile load failed: null
java.io.FileNotFoundException
at com.maddox.rts.SFSInputStream.<init>(SFSInputStream.java:65)
at com.maddox.rts.SFSReader.<init>(SFSReader.java:19)
at com.maddox.rts.SectFile.loadFile(SectFile.java:157)
at com.maddox.rts.SectFile.loadFile(SectFile.java:136)
at com.maddox.rts.SectFile.<init>(SectFile.java:108)
at com.maddox.rts.SectFile.<init>(SectFile.java:68)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIBWDemoPlay.gameBegin(GUIBWDemoPlay.java:305)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIBWDemoPlay.gameBeginNet(GUIBWDemoPlay.java:272)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIBWDemoPlay.access$1200(GUIBWDemoPlay.java:22)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIBWDemoPlay$MissionListener.netMissionState(GUIBWDemoPlay.java:201)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission.netInput(Mission.java:2987)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission.access$4(Mission.java:2794)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission$NetMissionObj.netInput(Mission.java:381)
at com.maddox.rts.NetObj.msgNet(NetObj.java:375)
at com.maddox.rts.MsgNet.invokeListener(MsgNet.java:56)
at com.maddox.rts.Message._send(Message.java:1217)
at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToObject(Message.java:1191)
at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendTo(Message.java:1134)
at com.maddox.rts.Message.trySend(Message.java:1115)
at com.maddox.rts.Time.loopMessages(Time.java:180)
at com.maddox.rts.RTSConf.loopMsgs(RTSConf.java:101)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.loopApp(MainWin3D.java:131)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:437)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
Time overflow (1345): speed 0.6651885
Time overflow (1549): speed 0.14295925
warning: no files : music/crash
FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21PF.fmd:MIG21' is being loaded from File: 'mig21'
FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21PFM.fmd:MIG21' is being loaded from File: 'mig21'
FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21FL.fmd:MIG21' is being loaded from File: 'mig21'
FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21S.fmd:MIG21S' is being loaded from File: 'mig21s'
FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21MF.fmd:MIG21MF' is being loaded from File: 'mig21mf'
FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21bis.fmd:MIG21BIS' is being loaded from File: 'mig21bis'
null
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
at com.maddox.rts.ObjIO.classForName(ObjIO.java:138)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIBriefingGeneric._enter(GUIBriefingGeneric.java:1299)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIBriefing._enter(GUIBriefing.java:171)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameState.enter(GameState.java:95)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIBriefingGeneric.enter(GUIBriefingGeneric.java:859)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIBriefing.enter(GUIBriefing.java:164)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIDGenBriefing.enter(GUIDGenBriefing.java:22)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameStateStack.change(GameStateStack.java:36)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameStateStack.change(GameStateStack.java:24)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUICampaigns.doStart(GUICampaigns.java:475)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUICampaigns.access$100(GUICampaigns.java:24)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUICampaigns$DialogClient.notify(GUICampaigns.java:77)
at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindow.notify(GWindow.java:143)
at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowDialogControl._notify(GWindowDialogControl.java:51)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIButton._notify(GUIButton.java:18)
at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowDialogControl.mouseClick(GWindowDialogControl.java:86)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIButton.mouseClick(GUIButton.java:22)
at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindow._mouseButton(GWindow.java:514)
at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowRoot.doMouseButton(GWindowRoot.java:251)
at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowManager.doMouseButton(GWindowManager.java:69)
at com.maddox.il2.engine.GUIWindowManager.msgMouseButton(GUIWindowManager.java:126)
at com.maddox.rts.MsgMouse.invokeListener(MsgMouse.java:98)
at com.maddox.rts.Message._send(Message.java:1217)
at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToObject(Message.java:1191)
at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToArray(Message.java:1147)
at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendTo(Message.java:1128)
at com.maddox.rts.Message.trySend(Message.java:1115)
at com.maddox.rts.Time.loopMessages(Time.java:180)
at com.maddox.rts.RTSConf.loopMsgs(RTSConf.java:101)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.loopApp(MainWin3D.java:131)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:437)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
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Load static objects
##### House without collision (3do/Buildings/Port/BaseSmallSegment/live.sim)
##### House without collision (3do/Buildings/Port/Floor/live.sim)
WARNING: ****( Unexpected txr reload (tfNoCompress16Bit,tfCompressMajorAlpha): '3do/plane/Textures/propellor.tga'
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'NoseCannon1_D0'
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'NoseCannon1_D0'
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'NoseCannon1_D0'
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'NoseCannon1_D0'
WARNING: ****( Unexpected txr reload (tfNoCompress16Bit,tfCompressMajorAlpha): '3do/plane/Textures/propellor.tga'
FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21bis.fmd:MIG21BIS' is being loaded from File: 'mig21bis'
FM called 'FlightModels/TumanskiR25:MIG21BIS.emd' is being loaded from File: 'mig21bis'
FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21bis.fmd:MIG21BIS' is being loaded from File: 'mig21bis'
FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21bis.fmd:MIG21BIS' is being loaded from File: 'mig21bis'
FM called 'FlightModels/TumanskiR25:MIG21BIS.emd' is being loaded from File: 'mig21bis'
FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21bis.fmd:MIG21BIS' is being loaded from File: 'mig21bis'
FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21bis.fmd:MIG21BIS' is being loaded from File: 'mig21bis'
FM called 'FlightModels/TumanskiR25:MIG21BIS.emd' is being loaded from File: 'mig21bis'
FM called 'FlightModels/MiG-21bis.fmd:MIG21BIS' is being loaded from File: 'mig21bis'
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 2.1 -> 2 (delta = -0.0999999) to Range 0..2
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 3.5 -> 2 (delta = -1.5) to Range 0..2
java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: printCompassHeading
at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.CockpitMIG_21MF.<init>(CockpitMIG_21MF.java:204)
at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Native Method)
at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Unknown Source)
at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Aircraft.createCockpits(Aircraft.java:2999)
at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Aircraft.load(Aircraft.java:2475)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission.loadAir(Mission.java:1617)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.Wing.load(Wing.java:134)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission.loadWings(Mission.java:1338)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission._load(Mission.java:755)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission.access$6(Mission.java:728)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission$BackgroundLoader.run(Mission.java:467)
at com.maddox.rts.BackgroundTask.doRun(BackgroundTask.java:155)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.loopApp(MainWin3D.java:108)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:437)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)


Installed the third gen MiG-21's and 19 as was suggested. Tried it without the air.ini lines and then with them(for MiG-21). Still crashes.
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1
« Reply #639 on: October 21, 2014, 12:23:03 PM »

Ahhh.... Shvets!
I know, I know what is your problem.

That's nothing bad of you.
The error caused by version compatibility problem caused by printCompassHeading.
v1.1's MiG-21 cockpit is written in 4.12.2m rules about printCompassHeading and not compatible to 4.10.1m.
From players' side, nothing to do to solve it.
It needs modders' side Java coding rework.

Today, SAS Common Utils gives us total compatibility solution of printCompassHeading.
And when the modder write the cockpit code with Common Utils rules , then the one MOD aircraft can be driven on each version 4.10.1m/4.11.1m/4.12.2m.
Now I'm not good at Common Utils rules and need more time to study to rework it by myself.
If S3 can rework it, it's best, I think , but S3 has other projects and ...... if he cannot , I'll try (maybe in 4 or 5 weeks).

Shvets , if you cannot wait so long time to drive MiG-21 , easy and quick is installing 4.12.2m + JetEra1956 + SAS Engine MOD 2.7 in another folder.
If you like , Pre-DBW2 is usable on 4.12.2m.
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1
« Reply #640 on: October 21, 2014, 02:57:44 PM »

Ahhh.... Shvets!
I know, I know what is your problem.
...

Thank you. It was driving me bananas(an IT student not having been able to install a mod :) ), because I thought I was doing something wrong.
I'll probably go with 4.12.2 for now and try the pre-DBW later on.
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1
« Reply #641 on: December 09, 2014, 01:30:48 AM »

can i use guns?
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1
« Reply #642 on: December 09, 2014, 02:11:25 AM »

What do you mean?
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1
« Reply #643 on: December 09, 2014, 08:21:04 AM »

can i use guns?

the second gen MiG's didn't have mounted guns - only first and third gen. Second generation used a gunpod - PFM and FL. PF was pure missile-type interceptor - it didn't actually need guns for it's purpose, so they were demounted, so it saved a lot of weight, thus it was lighter and therefore faster (in both vertical and horisontal speeds).
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1
« Reply #644 on: January 04, 2015, 04:21:24 PM »

..how to use Kh-66 air to ground missiles?Thank You!!!
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1
« Reply #645 on: January 05, 2015, 08:52:41 AM »

..how to use Kh-66 air to ground missiles?Thank You!!!

Since for now the Kh-66 is rather simplified (because the RP-21/22 is simplified), you just arm it (B key), reach 10 km from a target (not a ship! A car, tank or train, can be moving.), wait for aproval (tone as by K-5 missiles family and a light under the sight), aim your sight grid on the target, launch missile, wait for hit, break. If you break too early, missile will loose signal.



A bit of IRL info; for interested people only! :D :D
...IRL, the Kh-66 was beam riding missile - the same as K-5 beam riders. That means - if you have fixed beam (aiming forward or stabilised by gyroscope) you can attack a ground target with both K-5's and Kh-66. You just fixed the beam, turned the sight to the ground attack + missile, moved pipper on the target, stabilised the beam - gyroscope made it aim at one point - and launched the missile, it rides down the beam no matter what's on the end. Be it tank, bunker, ship or...

This has also a secondary use - if Kh-66 just rides the beam just like K-5... if you locked a plane and launched the Kh-66, you got kinda good heavy anti-bomber missile with near 100 kg of explosives (220 lb). Disadvantage was, that Kh-66 needs direct impact...
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1
« Reply #646 on: January 05, 2015, 04:21:08 PM »

..how to use Kh-66 air to ground missiles?Thank You!!!

Since for now the Kh-66 is rather simplified (because the RP-21/22 is simplified), you just arm it (B key), reach 10 km from a target (not a ship! A car, tank or train, can be moving.), wait for aproval (tone as by K-5 missiles family and a light under the sight), aim your sight grid on the target, launch missile, wait for hit, break. If you break too early, missile will loose signal.



A bit of IRL info; for interested people only! :D :D
...IRL, the Kh-66 was beam riding missile - the same as K-5 beam riders. That means - if you have fixed beam (aiming forward or stabilised by gyroscope) you can attack a ground target with both K-5's and Kh-66. You just fixed the beam, turned the sight to the ground attack + missile, moved pipper on the target, stabilised the beam - gyroscope made it aim at one point - and launched the missile, it rides down the beam no matter what's on the end. Be it tank, bunker, ship or...

This has also a secondary use - if Kh-66 just rides the beam just like K-5... if you locked a plane and launched the Kh-66, you got kinda good heavy anti-bomber missile with near 100 kg of explosives (220 lb). Disadvantage was, that Kh-66 needs direct impact...


....thank you,i try the Kh-66 on a ship!!!I know Kh-66's history, basically was an AA missile adapted as AG, and "beam riding" means that you must point the target until the missile reach it.....
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Re: MiG-21PF/PFM/FL 'Fishbed-D/F' - v1.1
« Reply #647 on: January 06, 2015, 12:22:39 PM »

basically, IRL you didn't have to point your nose to the target all the way - if you stabilised it using gyroscope... but even so you shouldn't do any drasticall movements :D
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