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[dsawan]

can anyone post something like this for the new helo's being released so that they are steady flying. All of them seem to go left and right most of time. is there a change in settings to make them easier to handle like flight model? thanks. Please excuse if one was made but I looked and did not see one around.

[farang65]

This is quite a good idea. 

There must be some good heli fliers out there

I'm very novice in these birds as well.

Kirby

[SAS~Malone]

yeah, the helo's, and their flight models, are still relatively new to IL2, so i'm sure many older hands could also use a few tips.
i can fly 'em alright, but i'm struggling to get a decent stationary hovering maneouvre going....

[dsawan]

i fly em in sf2 and have to set flight model to easy mode, not sure if can do in dbw, but will try later on. Seens the cobra gunship is stable of than hind and huey, so dont know what causes that.

[benitomuso]

Pdittrich,
                    good general brief about the subject.

  I've never flown a real Helicopter, but I used other simulators and made some attempts with RC Helis. The only conclussion you can get is that: what we have in Il-2 doesn't have anything to do with a real helicopter.

  A lot must be done regarding FM and a completely new modelization considering the real forces (which are not all corresponding the ones of a plane) that act over a helicopter.

  In our current models, if you turn off the engine, the Heli will slide a lot, like a plane does. Real helicopters without theri main rotor working fell to ground exactly as a stone.

  In planes, the lift force is is a result of the thrust. To be in the air, the plane has to be moving forward too. This is not the case of helicopters: lift is only the result of the vertical force the main rotor produces into the blades.

  Another hugely different effect if what happens when you move your stick to one of the sides. Again, the plane needs to be moving forward to roll over it, only the thrust made the ailerons to produce the effect we know. Helis can go to side (and most of them backwards too) by just slippipng the stick to one side (or back). It produces an instant effect that doesn't have any correpondence in the planes world.

  Perhaps not a very possitive comment: but I don't think that could make any sense "to master" your skills in this evaluation helicopters. They are too apart from reality. If you become a great pilot of these, it will not help you basically at all for a real one.

  Code for helicopters that act like an helicopter should be developed. We only have 3D that corresponds to helicopters with some little weird plane behaviour.

  Regards,
                              Pablo

[BT~walker]

Very well said pdittrich ! In my opinion, cause of all these features mentioned, flying
helis in IL2 is fun & challenging !  Cause you have to treat them not like flying
helis but like flying a plane with very low stall speed characteristics !...

My 2 cents : enable AOA in HUD mod & act accordingly with throttle when AoA takes
very high positive or especially very high negative numbers ! You have to track & keep
AoA between lets say -7 & + 15. Outside this range, you will most probably roll & crash.
This way you'll easily understand what takes to fly each heli properly in IL2 ! As already mentioned,
throtlle defines AoA directly, apart from engine horsepower !
HAVE FUN !

[Ranwers]

Thanks man

[farang65]

Hi pdittrich,

Excellent You Tube heli flying tutorial   

Sure helped me out.

I'll see if it can be a sticky in the Helicoptors Airships section

Kirby

[SAS~Malone]

i have stickied the tutorial post as requested, Kirby :
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,32514.0.html