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Help with skinning droptanks
« on: November 19, 2012, 03:01:40 PM »

I want to skin the F-100D and was going to try to do the scheme portrayed on this model aircraft, mostly because its quite eye catching. It is a historical paintscheme.



but how would i go about skinning the droptank??

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Re: Help with skinning droptanks
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2012, 04:14:37 PM »

Only if mesh of tank will read aircraft skin.
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Re: Help with skinning droptanks
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2012, 04:19:39 PM »

repaint 335Gal.tga in 3do/arms/335Gal_Droptank folder?
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Re: Help with skinning droptanks
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2012, 09:58:28 PM »

repaint 335Gal.tga in 3do/arms/335Gal_Droptank folder?

right! i guessed as much, and even pulled it up and looked it over, but my pc tells me that it cant read that file. So what do i need in order to be able to edit those type files?
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Re: Help with skinning droptanks
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2012, 04:51:32 AM »

I imagine you realize that if you do manage to paint the tanks, they will be red on ALL F-100s regardless of skin? That means your cammoed Huns tanks.
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Re: Help with skinning droptanks
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2012, 08:19:16 AM »



Here you go Fresco... some red gas tanks for you.

-------Mediafire download-----> https://www.mediafire.com/?k0ga7gon55vbcrw

There are two folders. ....One is the already painted RED gas-tanks. Just copy and place it into your F-100D folder.
Overwrite the file when asked. ( MAKE SURE TO MAKE A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL and place it somewhere else
on your computer for safe-keeping. If you do not like the red color on all your airplanes, you can always replace
this tank with the original)

- Inside the other folder you will see my Photoshop-CS5 skin file. With it, you can later paint your
gas-tank any color you want and put it into your gas-tank folder in the airplanes folder.

Hope you like it and have a great flight.
Cheers
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Re: Help with skinning droptanks
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2012, 01:12:38 PM »

I imagine you realize that if you do manage to paint the tanks, they will be red on ALL F-100s regardless of skin? That means your cammoed Huns tanks.

hi us-grant. I knew they would be red on all my planes. i was originally goin to do as max-thehitman suggested and make a copy of my originals, then after id skinned the aircraft itself, and taken any needed screenshots, i would pick which tank i prefered and just replace the original.



Here you go Fresco... some red gas tanks for you.

-------Mediafire download-----> https://www.mediafire.com/?k0ga7gon55vbcrw

There are two folders. ....One is the already painted RED gas-tanks. Just copy and place it into your F-100D folder.
Overwrite the file when asked. ( MAKE SURE TO MAKE A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL and place it somewhere else
on your computer for safe-keeping. If you do not like the red color on all your airplanes, you can always replace
this tank with the original)

- Inside the other folder you will see my Photoshop-CS5 skin file. With it, you can later paint your
gas-tank any color you want and put it into your gas-tank folder in the airplanes folder.

Hope you like it and have a great flight.
Cheers
MAX




OH goodness! A thousand thank yous Max-thehitman!!
Downloading now! I'll definitely put these to use!

thanks!
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Re: Help with skinning droptanks
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2012, 08:03:17 AM »

Here is what i had gotten done last night at 1:00! I was just ready to start on the unique coloration. First though i exported it once to make sure it looked alright in game. I am using the template offered in the skinshop by US_GRANT, and working in GIMP2.6. (Contrary to popular word around the forum i have NOT had any trouble with layers being messed up or unuseable.)


F-100D FW-307 by Fresco 23, on Flickr
sorry its a little small, ill try to get a better one up but i gotta go to work now

Took me a while to get this far because when i opened the .psd in GIMP, EVERY SINGLE LAYER was enabled!! Which meant that i had a super confusing disgusting jumble to sort out. Finally turned them ALL off and started at the bottom and looked at them one-by-one, till i sorted out what was what! The red fuel tanks look great max-thehitman! Thanks!
I was having trouble getting the aluminum to look like real aluminum. I checked a skin in the skin section that was made with this same template and it has the same look as mine. Not sure what i need to do to improve the look.

Bad news though! max... i have only recently discovered(earlier this week  ;D) that GIMP will open .psd files. So i have several of your excellent templates of the WW1 aircraft and am having fun with those right now! I am being very careful to keep them set up properly so they will be workable.   :-[ But last night at 1:00 a.m. .... i merged layers, exported the skin you see above, and saved as .bmp and closed GIMP. BUT... i forgot to save the template first............. curses... ???

so ....to continue working on this project i will have to re-download the template and start from scratch!  :( sad...

anyway! thanks again for these red tanks! they are great!
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Re: Help with skinning droptanks
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2012, 08:35:13 AM »

got it bigger now...  ;D

F-100D FW-307 by Fresco 23, on Flickr

but still got to start over! ill grab the template again today

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Re: Help with skinning droptanks
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2012, 09:08:51 AM »


AH! Great! Its good to see someone do some painting for IL-2 skins.
We need more artists! You are doing great to start out.  8) Very cool.
Start with simple things and then move on to more complicated stuff... do not forget to keep saving your
work and save them with seperate layers. If you do not, you will loose all the hours you have spent on painting.
It has happened to me also, so you are not alone. We all have done the same things before too, so its only natural.
We learn from our mistakes and move on.

I suggest to paint using Photoshop if you can, but I have heard that GIMP is also a good program.
Learn it well, it is your digital painting canvas, just like an artist uses a pencil and paper, or a brush on canvas.
Once you have mastered and learned where all the buttons you need are at, things will become much easier for you.
there are many tutorials available on teh internet. Look at them and save them to your folders. They will come in
handy in the future.

I left this Gas-tank skin-template as simple as possible. The rest is up to you to paint what you want on it.
Here is what I suggest for you to do next.
Separate that small image into colored squares and lines and put it back into the airplane (the game).
Look at it from ALL diferent angles. Look to see where each color and line connects to the others. You will find
out which is the top part and the bottom and which are the sides of that Gas-Tank skin.
Next,
go back to your GIMP and paint some more, now that you have learned where each side is placed on that little image.
If you want to make it more shiny looking, add some white paint to it but do not make it too white (bright). Paint just
a little bit and when you put it back into the game (airplane) you will see it shine a little bit more in the sunlight.
Try diferent tones of white and see it in the game if its looking alright. It takes many skin tests to see which is the
best amount of color and shades you paint on a skin. You cannot only do "one skin" and stop there. No.
You must do at least 6 or more skin-tests and see which looks best. That is the only way to paint a good looking skin,
by doing many skin-tests.

Make these little tests on this little gas-tank skin , so you can master how much paint and details you can paint on it.
Once you have created a really good looking gas-tank, then its time to move on to a complete airplane skin.
The painting process is almost the same.
First you must place some colored lines or colors on the skin (save it and put in the game-airplane) fly your airplane and
notice where each line meets with another and the diferent parts. When you go back to your "digital canvas" (GIMP) you
will start by painting things in a way that all those mixed up pieces on the skin will look better when they come together and
when they wrap around the airplane model.
This takes time to learn,
but with patience and determination you can do it! I know you can.
The IL-2 is a great game to fly in, but its also great fun to paint your own skins and make them come alive when
you use them in the game also.
Have fun with this hobby, you will enjoy it more and you will enjoy the game even more.




 
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Re: Help with skinning droptanks
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2012, 12:39:22 PM »

thanks max!  ;D

i'm redownloading the F-100D template right now, so tonight i'll be restarting!
it may take a day or two, but ill post a picture or two of my progress as i go along!
thanks for the encouragement!

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Re: Help with skinning droptanks
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2012, 08:52:15 AM »

Here is a bit of my progress over the Thanksgiving holiday!(by the way Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!!)

I have gotten the aluminum skin to look much better now, more like real metal. Took a little playing with certain layers opacity to get it to gleam better. Anyway im much happier with this one! What do you think? Still needing to add the stars to the tail, nose, and droptanks.


Working progress F-100D 50th TFW Commander by Fresco 23, on Flickr

After i started work, I was browsing the skin section and noticed a set of 50th TFW F-100s already in there.
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,25993.0.html
However, i decided that since those planes are not exactly like mine, and my project represents a perticular aircraft, indeed the Commander of the 50th TFW, hopefully US-GRANT will not mind me doing a project so similar(i am even working from that same template)to his already completed skins!

p.s.: can open the droptank .tga in GIMP, can make it red, add stars, and squadron badge, but when i save it and place it in the weapon folder of my F-100D, it will not show up and i am not understanding why.. obviously its not that simple and i must be doing something wrong. clarification would be richly appreciated! Lol

thanks for everyones help thus far
much appreciated!

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