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#### ANDYTOTHED

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##### Re: Fokker E III Eindecker
« Reply #72 on: September 23, 2012, 04:18:22 PM »

Nevermind fixed it!
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#### alotef

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##### Re: Fokker E III Eindecker
« Reply #73 on: September 27, 2012, 09:13:06 AM »

Made a film for DBW starring the EIII.
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,28722.0.html
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##### Re: Fokker E III Eindecker
« Reply #74 on: October 12, 2012, 07:42:25 AM »

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##### Re: Fokker E III Eindecker
« Reply #75 on: October 19, 2012, 01:33:42 PM »

Excellent set of missions (more please)

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##### Re: Fokker E III Eindecker
« Reply #76 on: October 19, 2012, 07:03:39 PM »

I am almost done modifying the original set for the allied side
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##### Re: Fokker E.III Eindecker
« Reply #77 on: December 29, 2012, 06:41:08 AM »

I put the plane into 4.10.1 + ModAct 3.06 , but I get a CTD at 70 %
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#### SAS~vampire_pilot

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##### Re: Fokker E.III Eindecker
« Reply #78 on: March 23, 2014, 11:59:37 AM »

what is the secret of flying this plane properly?

I can't get it to climb properly, only very very slowly and at 600m it is a struggle for each meter, no fighting possible basically. I am reading about fights in altitudes as high as 2000m and higher, an altitude I am not able to make at all.

Speed is barely exceeding 110 km/h TAS in horizontal. It is supposedly able to go around 140, a number I am never able to achieve.
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#### Lisek

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##### Re: Fokker E.III Eindecker
« Reply #79 on: March 23, 2014, 01:05:39 PM »

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1# Engine has no throttle, you can change power by switching magnetos, magneto 1 means ~33% of power, magneto 2 ~66% and magneto 1+2 is full throttle. Also it is possible to regulate power by changing mixture level.
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Probably that is the answer you are looking for?

It is definately not a plane for vertical fights. Rate of climb (from British tests of captured airplane, UPAVON report no. 48) are as shown:
1000 ft - 1 min
2000 ft - 2 min 45 sec
3000 ft - 4 min 25 sec
4000 ft - 6 min 20 sec
5000 ft - 8 min 30 sec
6000 ft - 11 min 10 sec
7000 ft (~2100 meters) - 14 min
They made it up with the tested airframe to 12 200 ft, but it took them aproximately 51 minutes to reach that altitude.

So please have it in mind
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##### Re: Fokker E.III Eindecker
« Reply #80 on: March 23, 2014, 02:00:51 PM »

I know how to operate the engine, but thanks. the lacking speed is part of the issue, almost every other plane is faster.

are these numbers even possible with this craft? I can't get that high, no matter what I do or how long I try.
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#### Lisek

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##### Re: Fokker E.III Eindecker
« Reply #81 on: March 23, 2014, 02:25:10 PM »

I managed to acheive 1500 meters with it before getting too much bored,as it's going really slowly even with 8x time. But it is possible.
And level speed test I managed something around 135 km/h.

I am really not a java or FM guy here, so I don't know how to help you
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##### Re: Fokker E.III Eindecker
« Reply #82 on: March 23, 2014, 03:11:40 PM »

The E-1 Fokker.

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General characteristicsCrew: one, pilotLength: 7.22 m (23 ft 7 in)Wingspan: 8.85 m (29 ft 0 in)Height: 2.9 m (9 ft 5½ in)Wing area: 15.9 m² (172.2 ft²)Empty weight: 360 kg (789 lb)Loaded weight: 563 kg (1,241 lb)Powerplant: 1 × Oberursel U.0 7-cylinder air-cooled rotary engine (clone of Gnome Lambda engine) using various makes of 2-blade propellers, from 2.3 to 2.5 meters (7.55 to 8.20 ft) diameter, 80 hp (60 kW)PerformanceMaximum speed: 130 km/h (81 mph)Range: 198 km at 110 km/h (123 mi at 68 mph)Service ceiling: 3,000 m (9,840 ft)Rate of climb: 20 min to 2,000 m (6,560 ft)Armament1 × forward-firing 7.92 mm (.312 in) Spandau lMG 08 machine gun (one
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##### Re: Fokker E.III Eindecker
« Reply #83 on: March 23, 2014, 04:27:52 PM »

Don´t feel too bad about it guys, this is how the airplane really was in real life too. Very slow.
Just this past week I was reading a book about the Fokker E.I and E.II and how can I make our
E.III model into an earlier version. Perhaps I can re-paint the skin-template (and skins) of a
Fokker E.III to look like an E.I or E.II version, without changing anything in the original model.

After reading the book all I can say is that the E.I and E.II were only diferent from the size of
the wings. The earlier versions had shorter wings that were just a few inches shorter but all
model versions used the same airplane frame. The main diference in all these aircraft were the
engines and their power. The motor engines looked the same, but the power
was very diferent from the E.I to E.II and E.III.
This is the book I was reading...
http://www.ulozto.net/x3Vpqv51/windsock-datafile-091-fokker-e-i-ii-pdf
The great WW1 German ace Immelmann wrote to Anthony Fokker a letter on how he was very
excited on shooting down his first enemy airplane while flying his Eindecker equipped with the revolutionary machine-gun shooting through the propeller, it was the first enemy airplane shot down
in this manner. He also wrote asking Anthony Fokker to please make this airplane faster.
He wanted a bigger and faster motor in it because at times he found it
very dificult to approach the enemy from behind to shoot at it. He was getting upset that his
Eindecker took so long to fly up into the sky to engage the enemy airplanes, that many times he
just saw the British airplanes fly away and not get a chance to fight them.
This is a true fact and a true letter that exists.
Even though this airplane made famous the so-called "Fokker-Scourge" over the battlefields of
WW1 and many allied pilots were afraid to engage such a machine in combat, it was really not
a super-plane.
We have to remember that this was just the beggining of the Great War and
many aircraft were still in the very early developement stages in airplane design. Motor engines were
still in its infancy too.
Just 15 years earlier from this time, the Wright Brothers flew the FIRST airplane in the world! ...and
that thing was not very fast
So this Eindecker was the latest in airplane innovation at the beggining of World War One.

Only a few years later would the skies become really ferocious with fast flying
aircraft and heavy machine guns, but at this time when the Fokker Eindecker flew, there were still
pilots shooting at each other with shot-guns and hand-pistols... some even threw bricks at each other!
I am not joking, its true. We still need a mod for that... Brick throwing pilots! AAAAHAHAHA!
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