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Avala

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Re: Map of Serbia (part of former Yugoslavia) Unfinished.
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2011, 05:54:59 PM »

Uufflakke, I appreciate your concern, but I really don't have problem with that. Everyone can use and tune it in any way he likes. Share it, if people asks . . . .  :) (and if it is not too much a hassle for you, of course  :) )
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Re: Map of Serbia (part of former Yugoslavia) Unfinished.
« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2011, 01:16:01 AM »

Ok
Uufflakke, will you share that repaint? I like the map but with this repaint will be even better for my taste.


Yes, I think Uuff is the colour king! I hear what Avala is saying about specific Serbia colours, but they really do look too dark and blue-ish.

If the Uuff re-colouring could also be uploaded, I think many of us would be pleased.

Allright then, here is my brighter version of Avala's Serbia map.
Drop the downloaded serbia folder in Rootfolder/Mods/Mapmods/maps/_Tex/Avala.
Needless to say to backup Avala's original serbia folder first.  ;)

http://www.mediafire.com/?2ew7x0psnwo37o4
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Re: Map of Serbia (part of former Yugoslavia) Unfinished.
« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2011, 04:16:04 AM »

 Uufflakke, really liked the color balance.
There are also yellow, blue, green. In my colors are more natural  for Serbia.
 Excellent Uuff!!



Great map!
Very interesting texture. I looked it load.ini.
He almost done everything differently. Very original and fresh ideas are implemented in this map
Thanks Avala!
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Re: Map of Serbia (part of former Yugoslavia) Unfinished.
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2011, 04:21:34 AM »

Re-downloaded and re-installed.
I get the same error.

I run the game in Excellent mode.

Really don't know how to solve the problem...
Colonel!
I have everything working. But for you
Try the following:
open on the way ... .. Serbia_Map \ MODS \ MAPMODS \ Maps \ Serbia
File load.ini
Locate the section [APPENDIX]
Tree0 line and change the selection with black

[APPENDIX]
  HighClouds = Avala/serbia/oblaci1.tga
  HighCloudsNoise = Avala/serbia/oblaci2.tga
 
  Moon = Moon\Moon0000.tga
  ShadeNoise = land/MTO_Noise.tga
  WaterNoise = water/WaterNoise.tga
  WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoise00.tga
  ForestNoise= forest/summer/sk_ListForestNoise.tga
  BeachFoam  = water/PacificFoam_.tga
  BeachSurf  = water/PacificBeachSurf.tga
  BeachLand  = water/RiverLand.tga
  CoastBumpNoise = water/CoastBumpNoiseDimas.tga


  Tree0 = Avala/serbia/SrbijaDrvoTL.tga
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Re: Map of Serbia (part of former Yugoslavia) Unfinished.
« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2011, 06:22:56 AM »

I like a lot the urban/village areas!  :)
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Re: Map of Serbia (part of former Yugoslavia) Unfinished.
« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2011, 08:43:16 AM »

Uufflakke, really liked the color balance.
There are also yellow, blue, green. In my colors are more natural  for Serbia.
 Excellent Uuff!!


Great map!
Very interesting texture. I looked it load.ini.
He almost done everything differently. Very original and fresh ideas are implemented in this map
Thanks Avala!
???



Take a look at upper green-blue part... strange country... especially in late April/early May...

 ::)
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Re: Map of Serbia (part of former Yugoslavia) Unfinished.
« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2011, 09:09:43 AM »


Take a look at upper green-blue part... strange country... especially in late April/early May...

 ::)

This air mass produce such blue. It's so obvious!
Put a different time - morning, fog, spring from the textures Uufflakke.
Very similar ...

As we say. The taste and color - no mates!
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Re: Map of Serbia (part of former Yugoslavia) Unfinished.
« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2011, 12:13:54 PM »

 :PBravo majstore, mapa je zakon, vrlo uvjerljivo i zivotno,radi bez greske na oba racunala ( sinoc sam je instalirao i isprobavao u pono? ), sto bi rekli kod mene "svaka ti (?)dala".

Pozdrav iz ZG , DOKTOR
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Avala

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Re: Map of Serbia (part of former Yugoslavia) Unfinished.
« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2011, 01:43:15 PM »

Hvala doktore, daj boze, daj boze  ;D



That photo above is over saturated and tends to blue. I assume thanks to the camera, atmospheric  and aerosol refraction is not so visible from such low altitude and that angle.

I wanted to make one "overall" realistic look. There is possibility that it lacks yellow tone. But adding yellow to all texture would be mistake because in that way you increase overall green in IL2. Solution can be adding yellow in just some part of the texture (maybe I will do that).

But I made textures according to personal experience, I live there  :D, so as far as I'm concern, and looking that terrain every day, sometimes from the air, that is the closest that I could do.

Fact is that there is no bright green-green as in England green, also there is no so saturated yellow tones, it gets yellowish and drab towards autumn, but not the same tones as in Germany for instance. Green is more dark-green.

But, also the fact is that all of us have different monitors with different settings, it is normal to see it differently. Just go to the store when there is many monitors or TV sets working next to each other, and you will see many differences.

Fact is that we are already accustomed to the IL2 maps, which I think are too bright and too saturated, especially in green tones (so called Ukrainian green  :) ) If you have a chance to fly above Europe, you will probably notice that ground is much darker, contrasted and less color saturated than in IL2. I wanted to make something like that.

The beauty with the modding is that everyone can have it according to his own likings, I will put Uufflakke's version in the first post also.

Here is some videos from youtube that in my opinion represrent the ground more or less corectly.

Taken at April 5th last year, notice the brightens of the ground, even it is 2:40pm.


August, not so good quality, but enough to show lack of deep yellow-green.


This one with trike shows the sumer the best in my opinion.



Also from the ground.



Lake Zaovine on Mountain Tara. Notice how trees are dark, from some distance it looks dark in real too (real pacific island-ish  :) )


Many nice pictures here:
http://www.tara-planina.com/foto_albumi.html


Few of mine, various times of days, various dates and various cameras (which is the most important because color distortions)











Overall impression of the nature is that greenery is bluish-silverish-light green in the spring, which goes more olive-drab-dark green through the sumer, then yellow and red in the autumn, but never deep yellow.

Again, there is no technical possibility that we all see the same. It depends of many factors. Anyone else's "vision" is just as valid as mine, so its good that everyone can have his own version  :)


@Col. King, Mixx
I'm glad that's solved now.
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Re: Map of Serbia (part of former Yugoslavia) Unfinished.
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2011, 04:15:28 PM »

This is a gorgeous map Avala, thank you very much for making it available.  I personally love the dark colouring of the textures.





Wishing you all the very best, Pete. 8) ;D
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Avala

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Re: Map of Serbia (part of former Yugoslavia) Unfinished.
« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2011, 05:10:44 PM »

If someone finds textures too dark, I can only suggest to paste them into some other map and try them there. I guarantee that they will not be dark.

Dark and light doesn't have anything with the colors on textures per se. It can be easily changed to darker or to brighter, I have explained that in initial post and in my post on page 3.
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Re: Map of Serbia (part of former Yugoslavia) Unfinished.
« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2011, 06:51:03 PM »

Its easier to do than to explain what to do, so I made some tunning. Now these are brighter and green is more yellow, also some other "tonal" changes (its better then overall shift in yellow). I will put them on the first post also. Would be nice if someone can make some screenshots with them, I know what am I doing but
cant see because dont have il2 installed at the moment.

http://www.mediafire.com/?9u628u2c356eale

Enjoy  :)
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