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[Arkbird]

I am seeing if this is going to work, and if it does, go easy on me
http://imm.io/2mBC

This is just a basic skin I made for for the B-17G and the mod for it. To use, save the image from the link (if you can by right clicking and then saving immediatly as a 256 Bitmap), then use paint or anything else that allows you to use 256 bitmap as a save. Then just put the file in your B-17G or B-17Gmod file. Tell me what you think!

Please note that you have to rename the image.

Here is a good explanation of this by Pursuivant:
the ghost of a B-17 filled with the holes that brought her down,  manned by a ghost crew damned to fly each night towards a target they'll never reach. Just the sort of thing to make German nightfighter pilots seriously reconsider their amphetamine habit.

[frogman2]

intresting 

[Arkbird]

intresting 

Thank You.

[Pursuivant]

At the risk of being rude, I think that with all those direct 88mm flak hits any B17 wearing this skin should be in pieces, not flying.

It's really easy to overdo damage effects. One or two big holes might be appropriate on a plane that size, but not as many as you've got. Remember, the B17 is a big plane and even a .50 caliber ball bullet is going "only" going to leave a hole the size of your thumb. A 20-30mm cannon shell will leave a bigger hole as it passes through, and perhaps a hole the size of a man's head if it explodes on contact. That means on the B17 skin, bullets are going to look like little pockmarks, while evidence of cannon shell explosions are going to be no bigger than your thumbnail.

Also, a bullet or cannon shell going through painted aluminum isn't going to leave that much carbon behind. Instead, you'll have an irregular area or circular area where the metal is deformed and the paint is blown away allowing the underlying metal to show. Don't be fooled by some of the ugly damage textures you see in IL2, which make the plane wearing them look like moldy swiss cheese. Instead, think of a bullet or shotgun blast going through a road sign, like this:

  http://farm1.static.flickr.com/17/20517346_8c57099a26.jpg


or this:

  http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01467/roadsign-shootings_1467286c.jpg

What is good about your textures is the attempt to make the metal around the blast look deformed and you're making a brave attempt to how just how much damage a big bomber could take and still (sort of) fly. The problem is that the deformed metal effects and big black spots aren't going to look so good up close on the 3d model unless you can alter the 3d damage model or the alpha layer of the damage skin - which is much more involved than just making a skin for the plane.

Given the limitations of modeling damage using just a skin, it's another reason to go for subtlety. Instead of big black holes, consider creating effects which make it look like a shell entered the plane and exploded, sending shrapnel in all directions without making big holes in the skin. That would make it obvious that the plane is in deep trouble without making the skin look unrealistic. Obviously, you'll want to limit this sort of effect to non-vital areas of the plane, like the nose, rear fuselage, wing tips, tail or vertical stabilizer.

There are lots of good pictures of badly damaged B17s here:

  http://www.daveswarbirds.com/b-17/fuselage.htm

That should be a starting place for your to get the effect that you're trying for.

[Arkbird]

Pursuivant,

I did this skin for fun (and I didn't know those were 88 sized holes) and because it just is supposed to be what the name implies, a Night Ghost, a ghost that only (or should only) comes out at night. And I am no modder, just a freestyle skinner. I even made another skin from Pixlr for the P-51A called Colorz, again as the name implies. All I can say is I like strange things, and you are not being rude, just helpful. Thanks for the advice, though!

[Pursuivant]

I did this skin for fun (and I didn't know those were 88 sized holes) and because it just is supposed to be what the name implies, a Night Ghost, a ghost that only (or should only) comes out at night.

I'm glad that you didn't take my comments as being rude. Now that I know what you're after, I think the skin is perfectly valid - the ghost of a B-17 filled with the holes that brought her down,  manned by a ghost crew damned to fly each night towards a target they'll never reach. Just the sort of thing to make German nightfighter pilots seriously reconsider their amphetamine habit.

[Arkbird]

I did this skin for fun (and I didn't know those were 88 sized holes) and because it just is supposed to be what the name implies, a Night Ghost, a ghost that only (or should only) comes out at night.

I'm glad that you didn't take my comments as being rude. Now that I know what you're after, I think the skin is perfectly valid - the ghost of a B-17 filled with the holes that brought her down,  manned by a ghost crew damned to fly each night towards a target they'll never reach. Just the sort of thing to make German nightfighter pilots seriously reconsider their amphetamine habit.

Whoa... where did you come up with that? Ghost yes, but it has been able to reach its target before, but... wow! That is good! Nice one Pursuivant!

[F22-Raptor-2006]

looks like it has ash marks, not bullet holes or torn canvas, broken parts. Seems like someone copied lots of flak bitmaps etc.. and stuck it on the plane tbh.

[Arkbird]

looks like it has ash marks, not bullet holes or torn canvas, broken parts. Seems like someone copied lots of flak bitmaps etc.. and stuck it on the plane tbh.

Yea... I used charcoal for the effect