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Title: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on February 11, 2016, 12:26:18 PM
After 2 years on the shelf, this mod is at last advancing, and its first batch is now near completion :P.
I am finalizing functional historical cockpits for these planes (as much as info on the cockpit is available as some of these aircraft are rather "esoteric" ;D).
Here's a foretaste of the pack :D.
As usual, help with templates and skins would be more than welcome  ;).

The first batch is a huge one (Maybe I'll upload it in 2 parts) and includes: Sikorsky S-16Ser, S-16-3, S12, S12bis, S-20, Mosca MB, MBbis, Anatra Anacle, Anade, Anasal, Lebed 12, 12HS, SPAD A-2, A-4, Ansaldo A-1, A-300-3, A-300-4, SVA-5, 9, 10, LWF tractor.

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Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Mission_bug on February 11, 2016, 02:13:40 PM
Wow, that certainly is one very impressive pack of aircraft Dreamk, I look forward to seeing them in game. 8)

Take care.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stalker on February 11, 2016, 04:10:49 PM
The good news, it makes sense to specify a list of GIO aircraft that nebylo doubles.
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on February 11, 2016, 06:27:48 PM
Thanks, this pack has been in gestation for a while I think. The Moscha pusher looks like it could be a stand in for A Caudron G III.

Edit: A reasonable stand in. The Caudron G III is a sesquiplane.
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stalker on February 11, 2016, 08:11:36 PM
Thanks, this pack has been in gestation for a while I think. The Moscha pusher looks like it could be a stand in for A Caudron G III.
Caudron G III makes GIO
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on February 11, 2016, 08:26:51 PM
Thanks, stalker, that's good to know.
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: max_thehitman on February 11, 2016, 09:19:47 PM
After 2 years on the shelf, this mod is at last advancing, and its first batch is now near completion :P.
I am finalizing functional historical cockpits for these planes (as much as info on the cockpit is available as some of these aircraft are rather "esoteric" ;D).
Here's a foretaste of the pack :D.
As usual, help with templates and skins would be more than welcome  ;).

The first batch is a huge one (Maybe I'll upload it in 2 parts) and includes: Sikorsky S-16Ser, S-16-3, S12, S12bis, S-20, Mosca MB, MBbis, Anatra Anacle, Anade, Anasal, Lebed 12, 12HS, SPAD A-2, A-4, Ansaldo A-1, A-300-3, A-300-4, SVA-5, 9, 10, LWF tractor.



WOW !!

Amazing selection of beautiful classic airplanes to fly ! THANK YOU ! GRAZIE !
I must check my book collection to see if I can find nice skins to color them and also make new skin-templates.
Some of those airplanes I never seen before.
The world of aviation is amazing!


Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: SAS~Malone on February 11, 2016, 10:28:58 PM
wow, these are looking great! good luck with completing the project. :D
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: SAS~Poltava on February 12, 2016, 12:21:35 AM
WONDERFUL!!! DREAMK IS BACK!!!  ;D ;D ;D

And what a collection! Amazing. This pack is a BIG event, that will expand the scope of the game. It looks as if it's time to brush up on the history of WW1 in the East and the Russian Civil War...  ;)

Really looking forward to this!  :)
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on February 12, 2016, 01:36:42 AM
The pusher is not a Caudron but a Porokhovshkirov :))
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: DarkBlueBoy on February 12, 2016, 01:48:56 AM
Thank you Dreamk! Amazing!! :)
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: jeanba on February 12, 2016, 03:35:13 AM
That looks great !!!
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Fresco23 on February 12, 2016, 07:38:20 AM
Epic news! Do I spy an S.16???!
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on February 12, 2016, 11:28:59 PM
I know, but it would make a reasonable stand in until somebody builds one.
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on February 13, 2016, 01:22:17 AM
Crikey !
Dreamk comes straight out of the blue with this bundle of joy  :D
You've no idea how much this news has cheered me up on a cold, wet and dull weekend in England  :D :D

Cheers

Alfie

P.S I just noticed the Ansaldo's............ :D :D :D
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on February 13, 2016, 02:15:50 AM
These have been on the back burner for a while, Alfie. Now Dreamk has enough time to complete and release the planes. I'll certainly be including them in campaigns and missions.

cheers

David
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: dona on February 13, 2016, 09:30:01 AM
These will be great additions to the game!! Beautiful work.  Thanks
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dimlee on February 16, 2016, 05:26:32 PM
These wonderful pictures motivate me to (at last) install DOF module and to create some missions for Crimea 1920. Aviators of Russian Army were very active in the last battles against Red forces...
Title: Re: Krasnyui Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on February 18, 2016, 02:47:33 AM
Ansaldo A1 completed:

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Sikorsky S-16 Ser and S-16-3 completed:

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S16's Cockpit change with selected armament (Colt-Lavrov cowling/Vickers cowling/Colt1914 upperwing/Vickers+Colt1914/Vickers cowling + Lewis upperwing)
Instriuments are fully functional and historical: pulsometer (on S16), fuel gauge tube (on S16), manometers (on Ansaldo), tachymeter, altimeter, compass

FMs reproduce historical data (though they can always be refined and improved).

Ready for skinning.....:))

further updates soon....
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Mission_bug on February 18, 2016, 03:26:50 AM
This will surely be a outstanding selection of aircraft Dreamk, it gets better every time you post. 8)

Your project is surely a work of love and dedication something to be very proud of. ;)

I would like to have the time to make the cockpits fully functioning in all the WWI types I made a slot for, sadly when the project started to get all the aircraft a slot that did not have one there were so many that I had to make a decision on how far I could or would take each aircraft.  I gave myself a remit to just have the basic controls functioning in a cockpit that at least used the actual 3D rather than something borrowed in the hope that others would step up to the mark and try and finish what I started, sadly only the skinners joined in and they kindly provided some gorgeous cockpit re-paints.

We are all really looking forward to seeing your pack added to our game, good luck with it.

Take care.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: RealDarko on February 18, 2016, 05:44:56 AM
Looking forward to this pack!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on February 18, 2016, 08:57:29 AM
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in the hope that others would step up to the mark and try and finish what I started ...

Tell me about that! It's because of the cockpits that this pack has been stuck for such a long time. I published a WIP of the planes here and at a pair of other forum with a call for help, even offered to send the models to whoever was wanting to go ahead with them....but the breakout came first when Mike decided last summer to open an "Eclipse online course for SAS fellows" and then when Stainless came with his tools, a few months ago. The Il2Modder program makes really the task of making cockpits quite easier - it was a nightmare till then. Then Eclipse enables you to write java methods much more easily and smoothly than the DJ decompiler.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on February 19, 2016, 12:09:26 AM
That's interesting to know. It's great these guys do all this stuff gratis.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on February 19, 2016, 01:09:11 AM
 Vel:210kph TAS ~1750rpm Power 62%
 :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on February 19, 2016, 04:22:06 AM
The game engine has had from the beginning a flaw with throttle:
The Ansaldo A1 could fly at 210-220kmh max and even for very short periods reach 234 kmh. The SPA 6A engine that equipped all the Assaldo planes (A1 and SVA) was quite performant for its period.
Due to the formulas used in the game engine, at throttle 75% the engines runs at nominal power (maximal power is just 50rpm over that) - so always run this engine around 75% throttle if you don't want to enter into over-revving and over-heating.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Mission_bug on February 19, 2016, 08:34:01 AM
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in the hope that others would step up to the mark and try and finish what I started ...

Tell me about that! It's because of the cockpits that this pack has been stuck for such a long time. I published a WIP of the planes here and at a pair of other forum with a call for help, even offered to send the models to whoever was wanting to go ahead with them....but the breakout came first when Mike decided last summer to open an "Eclipse online course for SAS fellows" and then when Stainless came with his tools, a few months ago. The Il2Modder program makes really the task of making cockpits quite easier - it was a nightmare till then. Then Eclipse enables you to write java methods much more easily and smoothly than the DJ decompiler.



Hello Dreamk, I never knew you had made these available as a WIP, first I knew was when this thread opened.. :-[


I can confirm that Mike's timely initiative to try and pass his java abilities to the rest of us was certainly the inspiration for a lot of projects here, sadly I am not much of a model pupil, hope he is not too dissapointed with my efforts though.

Sorry to say I am not sure quite how the Stainless tool helps specifically with cockpits as my use of it tends to be in alignment of gun hooks primarily, unfortunately I have not delved deeper into what must surely be a marvellous tool and explored its potential.

I find Skinl my greatest ally in assembling anything, especially the cockpits of Gio's aircraft, and yet again I have probably not even scratched the surface of what that can do either.

So many things to do yet somehow I do not spend enough time actually trying to become proficient at the things like java and the various tools we a very fortunate enough to have available to us here to complete those projects we are most fond of.


Take care.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on February 20, 2016, 09:42:36 AM
October 30, 2013
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,26088.msg416040.html#msg416040
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creating and mapping ww1 3D models is not a problem - the problem is the time needed to export them, creating slot and FM - If anyone wants to try his/her hand at it, I'll be glad to send him/her a suitable completed 3D model of mine - you need just to ask (and of course commit yourself to upload the finished mod on a fully free site like this forum).
3D models finished, mapped, with basic template and basic skin:
[follows the list of planes with pics of the models]
But weeping on spilled milk  :('t help us. Let's go ahead and try to have the max of these planes flying in Il2 :).

Concerning Stainless tool, its main interest is that it allows to open a cockpit's hier.him and export it as a FBX. The FBX can then be imported to 3d max through its native plugins. The FBX imported in such a way keeps names of meshes, with their links, their materials, and their orientation. As in all cockpits, the CF_D0 is oriented (x,y,z) (90,0,90). You just need to group all these meshes and re-orientate the group (x,y,z) (0,0,0) then begin to work.
(If you don't export the meshes with this last orientation, you'll get strange light effects in Il2 - the sun rays coming from down under - this is not such a problem for the meshes inside the cockpit but for wings and such, this quite matters.

The problem of java files is that DBW1916 is "born in sin"  ;) using the frankenplanes made by Beo as a basis for new planes, and often without re-editing the java files, thence problems with turrets, guns, and such, not to speak of the cockpit instruments. A lot of new ww1 planes have inherited java files with a lot of junk. I had to re-write "clean" java files for this new pack.

Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Mission_bug on February 20, 2016, 12:33:26 PM
Hello Dreamk, thank you very much for the link and the explanation, greatly appreciated. 8)


Take care.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on March 01, 2016, 04:42:43 AM
Some update: The Ansaldo A1, Sikorsky S-16ser and S16-3, S-12 and S12-bis are completed, cockpit and skis included.
I have added some goodies to their cockpits, such as the fuel four ways cocks on the Ansaldo rotating  in accordance with the various phases of the starting of the engine and with the amount of fuel remaining in the main tank, as well a functional gun trigger. On the S-12bis, a map holder (reproduced from an example having belonged to an Ilya Muromets) with a Russian military map from the period.
The overheating problem that has plagued so many ww1 aircraft in the game has been solved - a couple of suitable code lines in java has enable to solve this problem and reproduce the heating characteristic of the castor Oil of the period (no more oil temperatures rising to 300C! an the like) and to keep overheating happening after over-revving for a reasonable period of time (still a short one, but more that a few milliseconds, as it was in reality).
Similarly water will not heat (a fortiori not overheat) in rotary engines...where it was not present at all, cooling being done through air movement and expelling oil!
Gnome rotary engines now have a idle regime at about 800 rpm, as historically. The FM give now good results (when tested via Infomod) concerning speed at various heights.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: SAS~Poltava on March 01, 2016, 05:22:21 AM
Good to hear about this steady progress! Really looking forward to this project, that will bring the Eastern Front of WW1 alive again!  :)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on March 01, 2016, 12:00:39 PM
+ 1  :)

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The overheating problem that has plagued so many ww1 aircraft in the game has been solved - a couple of suitable code lines in java has enable to solve this problem and reproduce the heating characteristic of the castor Oil of the period (no more oil temperatures rising to 300C! an the like) and to keep overheating happening after over-revving for a reasonable period of time (still a short one, but more that a few milliseconds, as it was in reality). 

Dreamk = genius  :D

Wow, it looks like you've cracked the overheating problem....so it was the Castor Oil after all  :D

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on March 11, 2016, 06:46:03 AM
Some updates:
I have been busy this week with rotary-engined airplanes
The FM of the S16ser, S16-3, S12, S12bis, MoscaMB, Mosca MBbis are now adequate to historical data.
Cockpit S16s and S12s finished, of Moscas - 80% done.
Dealing the MoscaMB and its 50Hp engine, while respecting historical data,  was especially troublesome, but we are now after that, and the plane is a pleasure to fly in spite of its low speed (or maybe because of it). The MB bis is a very sweet small fighter, quite nimble and comparatively fast (130kmh top speed - "everything is relative:))").

I have now recreated the controls of rotary engine by simple addition to the existing motor class:
- For Gnome 50Hp and 80Hp no control except blipping. As you put the contact the engine rpm raises to 1200 rpm. Control in air is by raising/lowering the nose of the plane or by blipping, as it was historically (fuel mix could be modified but on the ground only - when you were in air, no intervention was possible, except cutting admission or/and ignition) .
The Eteve and Pensuti airspeed indicators meshes are already exported but not yet integrated in the game - their use was critical with these engines, they were in fact stall indicators and contributed to drastically reduce flying accidents in the years 1911-1916.

- For Gnome Monosoupape 100Hp, no control throttle, but the control mix allows you to modulate the engine regime: As you put the contact, the rpm raise to 1200rpm, but by acting on the control mix command you can make this variate in the 800 to 1300 rpm range (in a way a "limited throttle" would do). If control mix is 0 (no fuel admission in the cylinders) this stops the engine.  Blipping is enabled.

- For Le Rhone engines, throttle and control mix are both active and control the range between 200 to 1300 rpm. Blipping is enabled. However I still need to find a way to make the throttle "lazy" - the response time of these engines to throttle variation was in the order of 7 seconds, therefore most air fighting was done without using the throttle.

This brought me to check historical data about ww1 propellers, their weight and pitches. Very interesting stuff. Most propellers were in the range 5 to 7 kg, with diameters ranging to 2.45 to 2.6m with few notable exceptions (the huge propellers of the early Voisin for instance). The historical values of the pitch angles of these propellers are particularly problematic as propeller management in Il2 is notoriously badly managed, even for fixed pitch propellers.

I'll see later whether (or not) I can extract all these changes from the modified motor class into as new rotary class that would extend the motor class. This would ease compatibility with game engine modifications.

More updates soon.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on March 11, 2016, 08:02:49 AM
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  Blipping is enabled 

 :P  Boy O Boy   :P
I am so looking forward to this release

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: RealDarko on March 12, 2016, 03:41:28 AM
Looking forward to see this babys flying!!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: SAS~Poltava on March 12, 2016, 10:33:16 AM
Yes indeed! Keep up the EXCELLENT work here!  :)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on March 12, 2016, 09:43:02 PM
Blipping - Blipping consisted in modifying the ignition sequence (not stopping a number of cylinders from functioning) , and consequently reducing the overall engine moment and therefore the engine expressed power.

However this was true when you were on ground with the engine running, while, in air, the situation was somehow more complex, as blipping did not cut the ignition, thence the bloc engine- propeller went on gearing. As in some situations, the propeller moment could be superior to the engine moment, and the propeller being bolted to the engine, the engine moment was then "dictated" by the propeller. In these cases, the effect of the blipping was felt only when the propeller moment decreased under the engine moment value. In other terms, you needed first to put your aircraft's nose up to reduce your rpm under 1200/1300rpm, then begin blipping. If you needed to reduce engine power/speed fast and for sure, the best way, as advised in ww1 manuals, was to cut ignition, something that would stop the engine and the propeller from gearing, and glide to earth.

In Il2 all this can be done rather straightforward, as Il2 uses energy moments (engine moment and propeller moment) as a basis for the engine part of the flight model - and not power, something that, interestingly, was heavily criticized in the past, as it is a source of error if the propellor's reductor value is different from 1 - but with rotary engine, where the propeller is bolted to the engine hub and rotating together with the engine, this reductor value is always 1.

So the blipping in the Gnome engine enables to reduce the expressed power (by modifying the engine moment as in historical reality) from 1200rpm to 1000 rpm then to 800 rpm, then to 0, cutting ignition. As in real blipping, so long you have not cut the ignition you can "blip back" from 800 to 1000 rpm or from 100 to 1200 rpm without need to restart the engine. Remember that restarting the engine in mid-air demands a minimal remaining speed and altitude to be able to do so.

(note: Later in war, the 160hp Gnome 9N has up to 5 different possibilities of blip position (0, 200 rpm, 400 rpm, 800rpm, 1000 rpm, 1200 rpm), however it has also a throttle allowing it to pass from 600 to 1200 rpm, so the blip was used, if necessary, only at start up, taxi, and landing. )

In a dive, shutting off the fuel was still a valid practice, even with later rotaries, as opposed to blipping. .
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on March 15, 2016, 02:05:44 AM
Many thanks Dreamk for this explanation of "blipping"  ;D
I had no idea the process was this complex.......

I thought the process was

1. Make an approach to the airfield
2. Cut ignition to a third of the cylinders....reduce speed/altitude
3. Cut ignition to another third of cylinders.....minimum speed/ 30m ish altitude
4. Land
5. Cut ign on all cylinders

OR

1. Make an approach to the airfield
2.Cut ign to all cylinders
3.Reduce speed so a/c is just about to fall out of sky
4. Hit Blipp Switch...fire all cylinders
5.Ascend slightly...reduce speed
6.Repeat until just off the ground with minimum speed
7. Land
8. Cut ign to all cylinders.

From your description it sounds a bit like the process of "double de-clutching" that you did to change gear on pre 1940's cars !

Also

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Blipping consisted in modifying the ignition sequence   

Any idea how this was done ?  ( reducing the strength of the spark?.....sending reduced spark to selected cylinders?) and what was the result?..

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In Il2 all this can be done rather straightforward 

Crikey...are you suggesting that all the rotary engines in THE GAME can be set like this ?
That seems like an awful lot of work for you  o_O

Anyway, many thanks for your continued contribution...to the best WW I flight sim ever   :D

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on March 15, 2016, 07:40:56 AM
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Any idea how this was done ?

Blipping was  actually achieved by firing all the cylinders, but only after a set number of revolutions of the engine (depending on the switch position).

The normal sequence of cylinders ignition for 7cyl rotaries (such as the Gnome 50 and 80HP) was 1-3-5-7-2-4-6. For 9 cylinders rotaries (such as the Gnome Monosoupape 100HP, Le Rhone 9C 80HP and 9J 110HP) the sequence was 1-3-5-7-9-2-4-6-8 (On the first revolution 1-3-5-7-9, then on the second revolution 2-4-6-8).

On the 100HP monosoupape, the blip caused each cylinder to be fired only once per three engine revolutions but the engine remained in perfect balance.

The 160hp Gnome 9N offered more possibilities. It had a dual option in regards to its blip switch. Depending of which magneto you were running off of. With the selection of one magneto you were either full power or off, while the selection of the second magneto gave the pilot a choice of 1/2, 1/4 , 1/8 power or off.

You could be set to fire all 9, 7, 5, or just 3 cylinders on each revolution. The cylinders that were not firing still cycled, but had no spark. They filled with fuel/oil and then expelled it, unburnt, into the cowl.
There were five positions on the switch: 4-3-2-1-0, 4 being full power.
Normal firing order (9 cylinders rotary) was: 1-3-5-7-9-2-4-6-8, meaning two revolutions of the engine to fire all plugs, 0 being off.
On switch position 3 every other ignition pulse was skipped, so the firing order was 1-5-9-4-8-3-7-2-6 and it took four revolutions instead or two for all cylinders to fire, meaning half speed.
On position 2 it took eight revolutions to fire all cylinders, 1 (skip 3-5-7)-9 (skip 2-4-6)-8, and so on, meaning 1/4 speed.
On position 1 it brought 1/8 speed, taking 16 revolutions to complete the firing order

You had to be careful, because blipping too long would "strangle" the engine, and an airborne restart of the engine was not always possible. As well you would not blip it too long in the air while the propeller was turning the engine under influence of the air flow, because, if the cylinders would be flooded too long without firing, a prolonged re-igniting would set the whole engine afire - or the engine would not start again because of wet spark plugs.

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"double de-clutching"
How many times have I heard, as a kid, my father repeat how good it was that cars have no longer need for that! He learned to drive, while he was soldiering in ww2, on an obsolete pre-war British (?) truck that had the steering wheel in the middle, and demanded "double de-clutching" - as in was mainly on mountain roads, it was sometimes quite "an experience and an experiment as well".
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on March 15, 2016, 08:13:23 AM
 
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  "an experience and an experiment as well".   
 
An experience I know only too well.........minutes of fun  :D :D :D :D
Many thanks for the concise "blipping" info...read and understood...I'm feeling quietly confident now.....ready to give it a go  ;D

Although, not to sure about this bit.....

Quote
  if the cylinders would be flooded too long without firing, a prolonged re-igniting would set the whole engine afire 
  o_O

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on March 18, 2016, 05:56:59 AM
This week I have been busy with "plaque pressure" speed indicators: the various Eteve models and the Pensuti.
The Eteve was used by French and Russians - not by the Belgians and apparently not by the British.
The early Eteve was more a stall indicator than a real speed indicator, and was made compuldsory as such on all airplanes of the French Aeronautique Militaire from 1911 onwards to reduce rate of accidents. As a matter of fact the original Eteve model had a sphere instead of the plaque, but very fast a transformation thought of by Renard, one of the two producers of these speed indicators, was introduced to create the definitive model.
Definitive is quite relative as the Russians used a still more complex model, with an articulated armlet and plaque, allowing it to be installed on the aircraft in any position.

The German developed their own speed indicator on the basis of the Eteve, model that apparently saw limited use in 1914 but the pilots preferred by far to use the cup anemometers that were widely available among the German and Austrian air forces. Interestingly the German model would reappear in 1931, in the US, under the name "Johnson Air Speed Indicator"...still in use today on some training planes.

The Pensuti used the same principle but was more complex than the Eteve, beingwidely employed on Italian planes.
 
Here are the originals and their animated models before export to Il2:

The Animated 3d models before their export to Il2:

Red Arrow shows direction of flight, Blue arrow direction of relative wind

1. Early (for Gnome engined planes) and Late (for Le Rhone engined aircarft) Eteve models 

A. On ground

(http://s22.postimg.cc/4584w9u0x/Eteve_Late_early.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

B. at extreme ("critical") speed

(http://s22.postimg.cc/szrmqcev5/Eteve_Late_Early_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

2. The Russian Eteve model (for Gnome - there a chronical shortage of Le Rhone in the IRAS while the Rhone was locally license produced)

A. On ground

(http://s22.postimg.cc/m5hc0nm81/Eteve_Rus.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

B. A maximal ("critical") speed

(http://s14.postimg.cc/nxr9amh5t/Eteve_Rus_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

3. the Pensuti

(http://s22.postimg.cc/dlxy2wdvl/Pensuti.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)


The originals:

The Eteve
(http://s17.postimg.cc/dv1gb5k3z/Eteve_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

(http://s15.postimg.cc/vjala1yyz/Eteve_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

(http://s17.postimg.cc/jhxt8mmmn/Eteve_3.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

Eteve on a Voisin (the rear triangular object is a Lepaute Bombsight)

(http://s17.postimg.cc/fchuplij3/Eteve_Voisin.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

Modified Eteve in an IRAS flying School

(http://s17.postimg.cc/w2t8exgy7/Eteve_Rus.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

The Pensuti (an early model is shown on the photo of the Caproni, with a larger plaque and a slightly modified body)

(http://s17.postimg.cc/qdczumarz/Pensuti_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

(http://s17.postimg.cc/3wbfrk4cv/Pensuti_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)


(http://s17.postimg.cc/aufjxi2hb/Early_Pensuti_ww1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

The German Stauscheiben Fahrtmesser and the Johnson Air Speed indicator:

(http://s17.postimg.cc/ueu30a32n/Stauscheiben_Fahrtmesser_ca_1914_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)(http://s17.postimg.cc/ymov914i7/Johnson_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/) (http://s17.postimg.cc/v5mt625fz/Johnson_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 18, 2017, 04:30:15 AM
When can we wait?
(https://s13.postimg.cc/flqtwt1bb/29.04.2017_16-27-21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/u4xyy7ug3/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: RealDarko on May 19, 2017, 12:39:11 PM
Maybe after this one :D :D

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/Screenshots/d06381d63019e6a04172f22f5fcd6acc_zpsrehotxk2.jpg) (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Capitanstratos/media/Screenshots/d06381d63019e6a04172f22f5fcd6acc_zpsrehotxk2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on June 02, 2017, 12:35:35 AM
Surely this little beauty might fly first  ;)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/db32fgdyn/C_12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bja3kjuln/)

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on June 02, 2017, 04:36:08 AM
Yes, i'm a little busy and got some PC problems so I have delayed uploading these two ladies - the Ansaldo and the S-11. I'll see whether I can do it in the next hours/days
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: RealDarko on June 02, 2017, 05:30:40 AM
What's that bird Alfie?

And any chance of seeing the Heinkel 59 soon DreamK?
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on June 03, 2017, 07:33:08 AM
Sikorsky S-12    :-*

Premier Looper    o_O

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-12

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: RealDarko on June 04, 2017, 08:50:26 AM
Thanks Alfie! Interesting bird, looking forward to fly it.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Fresco23 on June 05, 2017, 03:51:40 PM
Man i love the early monoplanes!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on June 05, 2017, 07:00:56 PM
There are many such images
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?p=166590#post166590

(https://s12.postimg.cc/94v2w9ipp/03.06.2017_16-01-01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/z0etfgkjd/)


(https://s2.postimg.cc/5ndqfgkq1/03.06.2017_16-00-44.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/48c5qqjmt/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/ndtf3m7hb/27.04.2017_15-43-31.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gncxu6kbf/)

(https://s16.postimg.cc/jnreaqjph/27.04.2017_19-55-52.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r3qnwj7ep/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on July 16, 2017, 08:46:37 PM
S-12, S12bis

(https://s13.postimg.cc/jt118y64n/07.05.2017_0-59-33.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lku03uphf/)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/ip65xaj2h/06.05.2017_16-40-54.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oq3uud5ol/)

(https://s12.postimg.cc/mi4f8lxp9/27.04.2017_9-53-37.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/54u4tr2e1/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on July 16, 2017, 08:50:19 PM
A1
(https://s23.postimg.cc/7lbraf2rf/24.04.2017_19-32-07.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jn754kbzr/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/x9z6rmhb5/26.04.2017_3-28-01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/p4h4tgt25/)

(https://s4.postimg.cc/bpgxwwibh/26.04.2017_3-27-39.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3wqa4xcc9/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on July 16, 2017, 08:56:29 PM
MB, MBbis
(https://s13.postimg.cc/il32kilxj/17.07.2017_10-35-42.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rsvb17szn/)

(https://s12.postimg.cc/ccialh20d/17.07.2017_10-36-01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/us2rivg4p/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/ybqg302gh/17.07.2017_10-37-11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vhnapk0a5/)

(https://s24.postimg.cc/820es2xh1/17.07.2017_10-36-22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gx192lm9d/)

(https://s12.postimg.cc/v19sro17h/17.07.2017_10-37-51.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ediap66ft/)

(https://s2.postimg.cc/fwf4rdgd5/17.07.2017_10-37-53.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f6wcf0fth/)

(https://s3.postimg.cc/wuxka1r43/17.07.2017_10-37-55.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ibqf8mxz3/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on December 22, 2017, 08:38:27 AM

(https://s10.postimg.cc/es91gji55/22.12.2017_22-11-02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/v395cuumt/)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/r6vtgzjyx/22.12.2017_22-11-04.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8ejydenkl/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on December 22, 2017, 02:44:43 PM
More excellent material  from Aviaskins. They produce so much good stuff.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on December 22, 2017, 05:48:38 PM
Aviaskins here nothing to do with. This is a project from Dreamk. I'm not sure that this project will work. The author does not answer me. I fixed some problems with hier.ini, now I can draw skins for this project again. At 4.10, these planes fly badly. And many do not start, so I can not see them in the game, which is also very bad.
(https://s10.postimg.cc/by5w390l5/22.12.2017_22-11-06.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9gu4vzgol/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Fresco23 on December 22, 2017, 07:18:53 PM
Cool! What aircraft is this? I don't recognize it.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on December 22, 2017, 09:54:33 PM
Cool! What aircraft is this? I don't recognize it.
And what about the west, they know about Russia?) This plane Moska - Bystritsky . The product of creativity of Italian and Russian aircraft designers
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww1/mb.html
(https://s10.postimg.cc/bdd2val6x/mb-3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/uv7qb8xk9/0.MBbis.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on December 23, 2017, 02:57:01 PM
My mistake, I forgot it was his project. Sorry.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on December 24, 2017, 01:30:12 AM
corrected for small things.
(https://s9.postimg.cc/w1r6kvedb/24.12.2017_15-10-42.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/z8lq4hyt7/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/6iyu7yxf3/24.12.2017_15-10-51.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/o90it0azv/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/afc63yxu7/24.12.2017_15-10-55.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kcn6x15fv/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on December 24, 2017, 10:28:32 AM
For today only the wheels have made and remade the fuselage. Without a map, it takes a long time to fit.
(https://s9.postimg.cc/e20tj7er3/25.12.2017_0-02-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yyx1nvcrv/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/xjvgz7gun/25.12.2017_0-02-22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/e20tj9jwr/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/dci16y93j/25.12.2017_0-02-25.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9g4payo3v/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/e3arc665r/25.12.2017_0-02-35.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/o0ls58drf/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: RealDarko on December 25, 2017, 07:38:50 AM
Love the oil coming out of the engine!!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on December 26, 2017, 08:50:08 AM
in anticipation of a UW map
(https://s10.postimg.cc/wwym1r4hl/26.12.2017_22-34-28.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4wuihh111/)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/fwfpt3ell/26.12.2017_22-36-00.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/al0t8dsit/)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/59lwns921/26.12.2017_22-36-10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lxdeqa3th/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on December 26, 2017, 11:48:10 PM
The template is ready. it is possible and to draw skins to proceed.
(https://s10.postimg.cc/ya48qod7t/27.12.2017_13-23-25.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h9lci006d/)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/naj1f57e1/27.12.2017_13-23-28.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/45fs5dspx/)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/4uykhuo5l/27.12.2017_13-23-58.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6zixixps5/)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/4uykhx8qx/27.12.2017_13-24-21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/opkm41nyd/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: RealDarko on December 27, 2017, 12:56:23 AM
What is a UW map?
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on December 27, 2017, 02:04:14 AM
What is a UW map?

already everything is there, it greatly facilitated the task.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on December 27, 2017, 06:47:29 AM

(https://s17.postimg.cc/6wh66dpr3/27.12.2017_20-22-22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ws0wpkrkr/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/6kzptq473/27.12.2017_20-22-11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tz7p5nm4b/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Mission_bug on December 27, 2017, 06:47:52 AM
What is a UW map?

When the modeler makes the aircraft they have to go through a process that allows the painter to add a skin to the model, that is termed UV mapping.
They take a shot of each particular part and place it in a particular area so the painter can see where to apply the colours, that placement is what you
see on your finished skins, the painter gets a series of lines or blocks of colour depending on how it is done and they work from that.



Excellent work on the skins my friend, your dedication to this period of flight is amazing, hopefully one day Dreamk will find the time to complete the project
so all your work can be seen in our game. 8)



Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on December 28, 2017, 01:50:38 AM
Quote
Excellent work on the skins my friend, your dedication to this period of flight is amazing, hopefully one day Dreamk will find the time to complete the project
so all your work can be seen in our game. 8)   

+1
Lovely little a/c   :-*

Btw    Have you seen the Caudron C1 in Unca-Fester's thread https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,57621.12.html reply #12 ?
         I would love to fly one of those in DOF  :P

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Unca-Fester on December 28, 2017, 12:06:54 PM
 Thanks Alfie,

All depends on how easily I can get my .ac's into the game, I have high hopes, but the fact that most here are using 3DMax is less heartening.    I'm hoping something can be done to that effect using Stainless's ILModder app. this may take some teaming up.


 I've got most of my stuff under the EULA espoused in this forum: Which is,  You can do whatever the *bleep* you want with them, as long as it's an improvement, but please keep a record of the past work and artists either text or .readme and don't make it into a commercial sim or product.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on December 29, 2017, 09:30:46 AM

The fuselage will have to be made simplistic.
(https://s14.postimg.cc/y9f3e0odd/28.12.2017_15-18-24.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/riym4l17h/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/bkpwegu4x/28.12.2017_15-18-33.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/u0adbv899/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/aifpvy66p/28.12.2017_15-18-29.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/l59j1debx/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/upt5o9yj5/29.12.2017_23-08-55.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6yts65ybx/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Mission_bug on December 29, 2017, 12:48:11 PM
Very nice. 8)

I now have the set of these aircraft and have spent most of the day on and off trying to get things working. ;)

Some still do not show in QMB and others would not take off either as AI or player controlled, however, switching the FM in the folders I have got things running finally for the Sikorsky types.

There are a lot of planes in this pack, who knows how long it will take to finish it. :o

Some are practically finished but others need the cockpit building amongst other things, they are certainly a very eclectic mix of types and it would be great to bring them all into the game eventually but it will be a long haul I feel.



Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Unca-Fester on December 29, 2017, 04:29:05 PM
Cool! What aircraft is this? I don't recognize it.
And what about the west, they know about Russia?) This plane Moska - Bystritsky . The product of creativity of Italian and Russian aircraft designers
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww1/mb.html

I know Fighter Squadron WWI has a Moska.

(http://www.wingsofhonour.com/fightersquadronww1/screenshots/img_fightersquadronww1_planepack4_screenshot_argonv_20071204_0001_moska2_800x600x24b.jpg)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: SAS~Gerax on December 30, 2017, 01:35:01 AM
Unca-Fester, no full quotes (especially with pics) please.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on January 03, 2018, 09:20:08 PM

(https://s14.postimg.cc/pevanyyj5/04.01.2018_11-08-59.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5k991ujbh/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/udit2ia1t/04.01.2018_11-09-03.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/69s1e7rkt/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/rjfnp2fld/04.01.2018_11-09-06.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/m80r4ctil/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on February 01, 2018, 08:58:14 PM

(https://s10.postimg.cc/wey88rtux/45756.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/c7ksggwdh/)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/7loo84ik9/45757.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q1955iwol/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on March 11, 2018, 08:14:05 PM

(https://s10.postimg.cc/pf7l4bqnd/12.03.2018_9-09-42.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wifgjxw2t/)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/45jyti57t/12.03.2018_9-09-47.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5xcxoeokl/)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/cntexuyvt/12.03.2018_9-09-58.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/aj91wrx91/)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/sm24o00tl/12.03.2018_9-10-05.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6a4bum1ph/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on April 17, 2018, 10:17:47 AM
Template ready at 60%
(https://s9.postimg.cc/6kpsa7mnj/18.04.2018_0-02-40.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/zaco6uqnf/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/gi0t3a9ov/18.04.2018_0-02-50.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6xh6gekcr/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/yktvuj0en/18.04.2018_0-03-01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6xh6gff7v/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: RealDarko on April 17, 2018, 01:56:19 PM
Beautiful work on a beautiful plane!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on April 24, 2018, 11:03:18 PM

(https://s9.postimg.cc/4fjvlv3n3/25.04.2018_12-45-01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/79n0zb5t7/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/3q139iij3/25.04.2018_12-45-11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h6y1sdsuj/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/v0mehg8lb/25.04.2018_12-45-13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/aghkiysu3/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/552ny9m73/25.04.2018_12-45-18.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bvj57p9cr/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/7z5tbq3sv/25.04.2018_12-45-22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/552nya1mj/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on April 25, 2018, 08:53:15 AM
readiness 80%
(https://s9.postimg.cc/3w5ll456n/25.04.2018_22-40-17.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6q8qyk7cr/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/8i1ptio5r/25.04.2018_22-40-21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/85abnc5vv/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/zfvmv9vy7/25.04.2018_22-40-29.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/z348p3dob/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/zfvmva3nz/25.04.2018_22-40-44.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/scnrfny8b/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Fresco23 on April 25, 2018, 02:25:26 PM
a beautiful aircraft!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 02, 2018, 03:10:10 AM
I made a template and a test skin for the serial C-16.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/qo8s4kykv/02.05.2018_16-30-09.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dk37rw6iz/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/4cazb7ewf/02.05.2018_16-30-14.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/sst55ofmz/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/tv3bo9vwf/02.05.2018_16-30-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/t5kjbwvcr/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/dk37s1bpr/02.05.2018_16-31-14.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5rck025qj/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 02, 2018, 08:51:48 AM
I made a template and a test skin for the  C-16-3.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/ocj5q4na7/02.05.2018_22-26-54.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/69q2ywrff/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/s8whm534v/02.05.2018_22-27-00.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ymlkpe80r/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/69q2yzc0v/02.05.2018_22-27-04.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/aiut15fa3/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/e3qojuwj3/02.05.2018_22-27-10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fis98kxm3/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on May 03, 2018, 12:53:00 AM
Excellent progress on the C-16 skins stiv_069 !
Really looking forward to the release of this pack  :P

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 03, 2018, 02:01:55 AM

(https://s17.postimg.cc/g3cc8lunz/03.05.2018_15-56-31.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tx0oxnn97/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/cwhsp0csv/03.05.2018_15-56-37.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/iko3fwh57/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/53r4x349r/03.05.2018_15-56-44.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/a2enbm82j/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/njbluhxtr/03.05.2018_15-56-50.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rsgbwo12z/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/votnso1i7/03.05.2018_15-56-58.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pnvyvlevv/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/i7wp9tm1r/03.05.2018_15-57-07.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x3v8hexgb/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Mission_bug on May 03, 2018, 07:50:51 AM
Superb work as always, amazed at how you find all the information for the schemes. 8)


I took a look at the aircraft Dreamk sent me but to be honest I really do not know where to start, there are so many and all in different states of progress, sadly I do not have Dreamk's talent for these so I suppose they will go no further with me unless maybe the aircraft could be done one at a time and released.

Even then it would need everyone who might be working on them to stay in touch on a regular basis so each problem encountered could be dealt with, sadly life issues and other projects mean that might not happen.


Take care.


Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on May 03, 2018, 04:09:05 PM
I am going to upload the Ansaldo A1, the Sikorsky S16 and the Mosca MB in the coming days - I am currently putting the last hand at adapting the MotorRotary mod to 412 and 410 (for some reason I wrote this on the basis of 4.13.1!) and reshaping their FM. The best is indeed to make these available to the community and work on them by solving issue after issue - these 3 ones are rather complete.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 03, 2018, 06:22:06 PM
I am going to upload the Ansaldo A1, the Sikorsky S16 and the Mosca MB in the coming days - I am currently putting the last hand at adapting the MotorRotary mod to 412 and 410 (for some reason I wrote this on the basis of 4.13.1!) and reshaping their FM. The best is indeed to make these available to the community and work on them by solving issue after issue - these 3 ones are rather complete.

Add another Sikorsky S12, it's quite working.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 03, 2018, 10:46:46 PM

(https://s17.postimg.cc/j04xcspxb/04.05.2018_12-27-49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/j04xcspx7/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/y8uuqkz1b/04.05.2018_12-28-44.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/68qr6avkr/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/68qr6b3an/04.05.2018_12-28-47.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/zb5194pkb/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/gvkkbr6b3/04.05.2018_12-28-53.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fgizn157v/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/80jq18p8f/04.05.2018_12-28-57.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/er07aoce3/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/w4ahpjn4v/04.05.2018_12-29-00.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pdu0g3zyz/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on May 04, 2018, 04:27:33 AM
Quote
I am going to upload the Ansaldo A1, the Sikorsky S16 and the Mosca MB in the coming days 

Quote
  Add another Sikorsky S12, it's quite working. 

Many thanks to all concerned for bringing these beautiful a/c to IL2 skies !

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 04, 2018, 12:03:00 PM

(https://s17.postimg.cc/7y0ay4abz/05.05.2018_1-54-21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yvu7zuuyz/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/5tfxx1o4v/05.05.2018_1-54-30.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qqc61pm5n/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/r33k7xmfz/05.05.2018_1-54-40.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/667c39oez/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/jbmu8saen/05.05.2018_1-54-49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jbmu8saej/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/ozt4zou6n/05.05.2018_1-54-56.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5573dkeyz/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/rh4w6z18f/05.05.2018_1-55-05.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vdi82ym7v/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on May 04, 2018, 09:18:32 PM
Thanks for all the great work, guys.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 05, 2018, 06:43:49 AM

(https://s17.postimg.cc/vlawwvtb3/05.05.2018_19-57-19.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/watp98tuj/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/6f9yq27gf/05.05.2018_20-04-06.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4ngzv5o3f/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on May 05, 2018, 06:49:57 AM
Fantastic work as always.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on May 06, 2018, 02:13:27 PM
Ok - here's the part 1 at last:
This pack includes 7 planes: the Ansaldo A1, Sikorsky S12, S12bis, S16-3, S16ser, Mosca MB and Mosca MBbis
Also included a special mod for reproducing the historical characteristics of rotary engines: no throttle, on some engine you can use the mix to indirectly modulate the rpm, as soon as you start the engine you go for the maximal power, the magneto switch is used to "blip" you can then get 0, 1/3, 2/3 or 3/3 of this maximal nominal power - in theory as when you are in flight you must take the inertia of the engine-propeller rotating unit into account. To slow your plane in flight (without "blipping", you raise your nose), and to increase speed, you duck. Remember landing was most often done by using progressively the blipping switch till cutting the engine completely in the last step of the landing approach. This mod also brings a solution to the overheating problem that has plagued ww1 aircraft in Il2.

Notes:
1) The Modact versions (4.12.2 and 4.13.x) still display the debugging info onscreen - I will eliminate this in the next update (it's already cleaned in the BAT version) but as it gives interesting info that helps understanding how these engines run, I decided to keep it like this for this first release
2) I am completing the versions of the mod for 4.10.1m (a little problematic as the various engines related classes are very different from 4.12 & 4.13) as quite a numbers of ww1 players still use this base version.

Warning
1) this mod modifies the behaviour of all aircraft defined as Rotary in their FM - this will cause troubles with some other aircraft that have beeen defined as such but without suiting the FM to historical data - they will fly correctly but you''ll have problems at take off - I'll try to make new FM for them as soon as i can with - not a real problem, just change the emd file they use with the one I wrote for the KV pack (Rhone and Gnome rotary engines)
2) the Ai does not (yet) understand how to take off with this rotary engines aircraft - it knows however how to fly them

air.ini additions:
Ansaldo_A1      air.Ansaldo_A1  NOINFO  r01  SUMMER
SikorskyS12    air.SikorskyS12  NOINFO  r01  SUMMER
SikorskyS12bis    air.SikorskyS12bis  NOINFO  r01  SUMMER
SikorskyS16_Ser    air.SikorskyS16_Ser  NOINFO  r01  SUMMER
SikorskyS16_3    air.SikorskyS16_3  NOINFO  r01  SUMMER
MoscaMB    air.MoscaMB  NOINFO  r01  SUMMER
MoscaMB_Bis    air.MoscaMB_Bis  NOINFO  r01  SUMMER

Download links (the gorgeous skins made for this plane by stiv_069 will be uploaded by him in a coming post - keep tuned for them)
1) for 4.12.2 with Modact 5.30 BUT without SAS_Engine_Mod
http://www.mediafire.com/file/8o6lb4emhg4qohh/KV%20Part%201%20for%204.12.2%20SAS%205.30.7z
2) for 4.13.3 with Modact SAS 6.3 (or 4.13.1 with Freemodding Modact)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/vki7svg2ea49mwu/KV%20Part%201%20for%204.13.3%20SAS%206.3
3) for BAT #DOF3
http://www.mediafire.com/file/u3xckz57txdzdn7/KV%20for%20BAT%20Part1.7z


As usual:
This package is freeware.
This software may be freely used, modified, copied and distributed with the following restrictions:
2) DO NOT place these files anywhere that requires a fee for downloading.
3) DO NOT place any of these files in any commercial package or any CD collection without the authors consent.
Enjoy!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 06, 2018, 07:04:24 PM
skins https://yadi.sk/d/i6eyFtZU3VSzGu
(https://s17.postimg.cc/pu7vgimpb/05.05.2018_1-54-40.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tql7ci7or/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/5a31i3z9b/03.05.2018_15-56-58.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/j3re75ruj/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/6p4m6uv7j/27.12.2017_20-22-59.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vie67ie7v/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on May 08, 2018, 09:39:20 AM
4.10.1, version available - and fix for cockpit views - see first post in the release thread:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,58621.msg646224.html#msg646224
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 14, 2018, 09:03:15 PM

(https://s9.postimg.cc/9cxmtjjpr/15.05.2018_10-16-11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yiyl0dkzv/)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/l21mhixtr/15.05.2018_10-16-26.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/olnk7c0jf/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on May 15, 2018, 06:58:19 PM
Well done.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 16, 2018, 10:22:48 PM

(https://s7.postimg.cc/hm4to20ij/17.05.2018_11-51-09.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/syhf5u97b/)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/7otsv137f/17.05.2018_11-51-12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/w5bypi3xz/)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/qtx24tcqj/17.05.2018_11-51-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4hz9bfdmf/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 16, 2018, 10:24:30 PM

(https://s7.postimg.cc/syhf5zee3/17.05.2018_11-51-22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f4t2gxlsn/)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/6zb0it04r/17.05.2018_11-51-24.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jdxsj4rmv/)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/hm4to8vff/17.05.2018_11-51-26.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4uqnhqlnb/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 16, 2018, 10:25:47 PM

(https://s7.postimg.cc/jdxsj91yj/17.05.2018_11-51-31.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/93vdk0c2v/)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/bl74raquj/17.05.2018_11-51-45.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gjun5tunb/)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/lii5ke117/17.05.2018_11-51-49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6zb0iz7w7/)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/dd03m9usr/17.05.2018_11-51-54.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jqp6pizon/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: max_thehitman on May 17, 2018, 08:21:48 AM
It´s BEAUTIFUL !
Nice wood and canvas details  8) I will fly it with pleasure!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: dona on May 17, 2018, 07:59:55 PM
A real beauty!!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Fresco23 on May 18, 2018, 05:37:37 PM
Lovely!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 20, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
немного порисовал сегодня.
(https://s7.postimg.cc/40w6cy57f/20.05.2018_22-32-48.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3o4s6rmxj/)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/le6grtvdn/20.05.2018_22-32-52.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r2cripzpz/)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/o89m5c2pn/20.05.2018_22-32-55.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g2rk76egn/)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/jmdhx0jrf/20.05.2018_22-33-00.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/shec7j8jr/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: dona on May 20, 2018, 09:09:57 AM
Beautiful work!!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 27, 2018, 10:20:43 PM

(https://s22.postimg.cc/vtdfazlqp/28.05.2018_11-25-03.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4is432itp/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/blzzipyk1/28.05.2018_11-25-12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kh0tt8ncd/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/ljb0btvw1/28.05.2018_11-25-22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lw2ei0e5p/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/kh0ttb7xt/28.05.2018_11-25-27.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wiw7ngh65/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/wvnltnmld/28.05.2018_11-25-37.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hmxofvswt/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/ddsydqkip/28.05.2018_11-25-44.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mycl0m9ul/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/tot2a37b5/28.05.2018_11-25-52.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q574ka4l9/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on May 28, 2018, 12:18:57 AM
Superb skins !
Can't wait for this beauty to be released...... :-*

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 28, 2018, 10:54:27 AM
Lebed-12bis

(https://s22.postimg.cc/3uos0rzpd/29.05.2018_0-22-15.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kiga39ugt/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/usip2k2cx/29.05.2018_0-22-17.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3uos0thpp/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/tdh4duof5/29.05.2018_0-22-19.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ncjfgs1st/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/gyucdjrs1/29.05.2018_0-22-27.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/47g671hzx/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/o227t6s2p/29.05.2018_0-22-30.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qw5d6mu8t/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/7fknjjee9/29.05.2018_0-22-36.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/moakxb82l/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: dsawan on May 28, 2018, 02:01:36 PM
luv this 2 seater
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: RealDarko on May 28, 2018, 02:55:46 PM
The skins are simply amazing!!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: dona on May 28, 2018, 04:14:30 PM
Exceptional!!!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: max_thehitman on May 28, 2018, 07:12:27 PM

The attention to the detail painting on these skins is SUPERB!
SUPER Beautiful!

Congratulations Stiv_069
You are a master artist of aviation art!

CHEERS!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/1qi92P24DYjd5c81Qy/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 28, 2018, 07:24:30 PM
Thank you all for appreciating my work. Small problems with the eyes, prevent me from working quickly. But all my templates are always accessible (in folders with skins), so you can always do them even better and draw a lot of beautiful skins to the planes.

RU: Спасибо всем за высокую оценку моих работ. Небольшие проблемы с глазами, мешают мне работать быстро. Но все мои темплайты всегда в доступе(в папках со шкурами), так что вы всегда их можете сделать еще лучше и нарисовать много прекрасных шкур к самолетам.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 29, 2018, 11:43:15 AM

(https://s22.postimg.cc/kqo6bfjyp/30.05.2018_1-39-45.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/67h1a0qtp/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/tlp0m0tch/30.05.2018_1-39-55.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/guaufijkd/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/4sfglesch/30.05.2018_1-39-49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/sjeu3isjh/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/g4s237vwh/30.05.2018_1-40-02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kdws5dz5p/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/556urn0ch/30.05.2018_1-40-30.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fs0nx28hp/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dimlee on May 29, 2018, 12:29:32 PM
Really well done.
I have ignored that period so far, but after looking at wonderful models of stiv_069 I feel the urge to try DOF of BAT.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 29, 2018, 10:15:56 PM

(https://s22.postimg.cc/sm8d19275/30.05.2018_11-55-06.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/byguyr7fh/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/wilox9prl/30.05.2018_11-54-57.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6n1ye2nxp/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/lj0hlpwsh/30.05.2018_11-55-00.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fi2sona65/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on May 29, 2018, 11:53:37 PM
Wow !

Who made a Spad A2 ?
Is it one of Dreamk's masterpieces ?
I never thought I'd see this lunacy in Il 2  o_O :D

Many thanks for your continued work in this field..........you're definitely making this old man very happy  :)

Skipping round the room in anticipation.....

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 30, 2018, 04:37:58 AM
Yes, this is Draemka's work. All 3d models, this is his work. The list of planes is very large. Have enough patience. I work, as health allows me, so work is slow.

Да, это работа Дреамка. Все 3д-модели, это его работа. Список самолетов очень большой. Запаситесь терпением. Я работаю, как мне позволяет здоровье, по этому работа идет медленно.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on May 30, 2018, 06:23:32 AM
This project has been around since 2011 at least. And now the last bits are becoming available.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 31, 2018, 08:39:11 AM

(https://s22.postimg.cc/p3box90ap/31.05.2018_22-33-38.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/o11iephh9/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/sa68gxagx/31.05.2018_22-33-44.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ljpr7hnb1/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/cpyupuxm9/31.05.2018_22-33-47.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/j3nxt42i5/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/tdqcsfsep/31.05.2018_22-33-55.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ehrtkugzx/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: redbaron on June 01, 2018, 07:31:31 PM
I'm so excited for this SPAD A2. God what I'd give to fly a plane like that!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on June 02, 2018, 08:25:44 AM

The problem with the texture of the propeller.

проблема с текстурой пропеллера.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/w1s99q5cx/02.06.2018_22-11-54.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/z8mstcpst/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/oykdu82j5/02.06.2018_22-16-24.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hil48fetp/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/ikvar12sx/02.06.2018_22-18-50.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dm7schyzx/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/s6ov6s435/02.06.2018_22-05-05.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ykdya18z1/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on June 02, 2018, 11:49:04 AM
I understand from the fact that screen pictures are taken "in flight" that the problem is with the propRot material not with the propeller itself - can you give me more details? the material is too transparent?
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on June 02, 2018, 06:24:42 PM
I understand from the fact that screen pictures are taken "in flight" that the problem is with the propRot material not with the propeller itself - can you give me more details? the material is too transparent?

The problem is that the wing texture is displayed on the screw in flight and on the static position.

Проблема в том, что на винте в полете и на статическом положении отображается текстура крыла.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/6foxilvvl/4634.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kyw2k0p0d/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on June 03, 2018, 04:07:28 AM
Ok - this is easy to correct. the cause of the mistake is that presently the material defined in the prop1_d0 mesh amd in the GearLSki_D0 and GearRSki_D0 is Gloss1D0o (the basic skin of the aircraft) although these meshes have their own materials - I''ll send them to you with the edited meshes.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on June 06, 2018, 08:29:34 AM
SPAD A4

(https://s33.postimg.cc/aziu6z3f3/06.06.2018_22-18-50.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9x8nofkln/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/rnac9ht1r/06.06.2018_22-18-54.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/w96ghuekr/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/cekevqmin/06.06.2018_22-18-56.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tf3b4ezjv/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on June 06, 2018, 08:31:31 AM
SPAD A2
(https://s33.postimg.cc/97ux8uxzz/06.06.2018_22-19-19.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dgznb1197/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/piv157d2n/06.06.2018_22-19-24.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ew17zs4x7/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/o3tgghz4v/06.06.2018_22-19-28.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/w9bienndn/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Mission_bug on June 06, 2018, 09:44:09 AM
For those wanting to decorate their airfields, the first seven statics for the current release. ;)

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,48542.0.html

Ansaldo_A1:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/5w3fisp8b/Static_F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3rj2hpnlj/)

MoscaMB and MB_Bis:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/pdy2yrwgr/Static_I.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/a585l02s7/)

SikorskyS12 and S12bis:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6ydm1cnh7/Static_G.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x6oqqq7kn/)

SikorskyS16_Ser and S16_3:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/h8g10ll2j/Static_H.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8q6kw9ejr/)


Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on June 06, 2018, 07:05:16 PM
Thanks for these.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on June 06, 2018, 11:59:53 PM
+1

Excellent work Pete !

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Fresco23 on June 07, 2018, 03:23:49 PM
That SPAD gunner seat looks rediculously unsafe!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on June 07, 2018, 04:07:43 PM
Unsafe is an understatement - besides the possibility of being transformed in "mince meat" in case of accident at take-off/landing, the the front part of the plane sometimes "un-locked" in mid-air, rotating on the horizontal wheel axle and throwing down the poor guy. - the pilot visibility was 0 and the noise of the propeller made all verbal communication between the front guy and the pilot totally impossible.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on June 08, 2018, 12:54:39 AM
Quote
Unsafe is an understatement   
:))

I think it's developments like this that make early/WW I  a/c so fascinating to me....
You can see the problem the engineers and flyers had, and you can see their train of thought....even if that train of thought led into a cul de sac or off a cliff  o_O
At a time without CAD and with a desperate need to gain advantage over the enemy you'd try anything  8)

My favourite though is still Roland Gaross's deflector plates......

You don't shoot your propeller off, but there's a distinct possibility of shooting yourself in the head.....at altitude  :D :D :D :D

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Fresco23 on June 08, 2018, 08:10:00 AM
Fully agree! I love aircraft like the F.E.2 and Vickers “Gunbus” showing  early solutions to the forward firing problem, and the B.E.2 and Bristol Scout, with their outward pointer MGs.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on June 10, 2018, 05:15:37 AM
SPAD A-2

(https://s15.postimg.cc/9gppedxm3/10.06.2018_19-13-26.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/es4lz3jon/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/nn5g9mvmj/10.06.2018_19-13-31.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yzi1rf4bb/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6zdy78gbf/10.06.2018_19-13-42.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h9gd6h66v/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on June 10, 2018, 05:17:11 AM
SPAD A-4
(https://s15.postimg.cc/casus6n17/10.06.2018_19-14-08.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yzi1rr4ev/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/4utl6eerf/10.06.2018_19-14-12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/45asu1e7r/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/69v5v5apn/10.06.2018_19-14-13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cnk8yeflj/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/d0bn4mvbf/10.06.2018_19-14-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4i270aosn/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Fresco23 on June 10, 2018, 07:23:33 AM
Those look great Stiv!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: dona on June 10, 2018, 03:12:03 PM
Great work!!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: max_thehitman on June 10, 2018, 05:45:07 PM

That Spad A2 and A4 is suicidal looking !  :D
What if the engine cuts the gunner guy in half ?!? Crazy invention !

Great skin art Stiv !  8)

Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on June 15, 2018, 02:33:03 AM
I've just discovered these superb new skins by stiv_069 over at aviaskins........

 http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?p=178692#post178692
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?t=3630
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?t=4909
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?t=4914
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?t=2833

Excellent news for anyone interested in post WW I / Russian Civil War aviation !

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on June 15, 2018, 07:28:59 AM
Thanks for the heads up. And thanks for the great ski=ns, Stiv.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Fresco23 on June 15, 2018, 09:41:06 PM
Yes I installed them myself a day or two ago and they are lovely!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on June 16, 2018, 09:43:53 AM
Readiness of the template for 80%, it remains to add small things and a little dirt.
SPAD A-2/4
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showpost.php?p=178745&postcount=794
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showpost.php?p=178746&postcount=795
(https://s22.postimg.cc/qfz6cpqhd/16.06.2018_23-21-46.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/56bk1va6l/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/ee3sikwoh/16.06.2018_23-21-49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6ld4qlqp9/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/gio5jp8lt/16.06.2018_23-22-07.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6ld4qn0zx/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/7avx3099d/16.06.2018_23-22-10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/c9jfhjd25/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/yy8mh425t/16.06.2018_23-22-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9s7oaa0vh/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Fresco23 on June 16, 2018, 03:18:04 PM
Beautiful!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on June 28, 2018, 03:36:31 AM
Finished work on the template. I start drawing skins.
SPAD A2
(https://s33.postimg.cc/c9k74k1wf/28.06.2018_17-29-20.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/nlwsmcal7/)


(https://s33.postimg.cc/b8jyey073/28.06.2018_17-29-29.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hz0fodncr/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/4uuvbpq67/28.06.2018_17-29-34.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4i3h5j7wb/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on June 28, 2018, 03:37:56 AM
SPAD A4
(https://s33.postimg.cc/5kdno4gfz/28.06.2018_17-29-43.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8egt1kim3/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/aj162o7e7/28.06.2018_17-29-47.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mxny2zywb/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/8egt1m0mn/28.06.2018_17-29-50.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lvdrkhay3/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/efehyqkov/28.06.2018_17-30-14.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gjyuztmbf/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on June 28, 2018, 04:20:30 PM
Excellent skins.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on June 28, 2018, 04:50:05 PM

(https://s33.postimg.cc/r1qr0ut4v/29.06.2018_0-33-38.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qc7yohsl7/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/r1qr0vga7/29.06.2018_0-33-51.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h4fq7t8ob/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/40a5v5bhr/29.06.2018_0-34-18.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/groc1nl9n/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/5s34q2hzz/29.06.2018_0-33-56.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ezvd6rp23/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on June 30, 2018, 10:26:44 AM

(https://s33.postimg.cc/e1awy286n/01.07.2018_0-22-37.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wtms1n4kr/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/r5gharv3j/01.07.2018_0-22-43.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wgvdvhh63/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/ahoz8b2wv/01.07.2018_0-22-49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/in716gr5n/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/gjwly9973/01.07.2018_0-22-53.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r6qf3ohcb/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: max_thehitman on June 30, 2018, 06:32:47 PM

Fantastic skin art Stiv !  8)

That SPAD A-2/4 looks very dangerous to fly in  :D 
One wrong move and the gunner gets cut in the rear propeller! CRAZY Inventions of 1916.


Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Alfie Noakes on July 01, 2018, 05:37:48 AM
+1

Thank you stiv_069 for your work on these superb skins !

I just checked your page over at aviaskins and found your new project......

WHAT  o_O

(https://s33.postimg.cc/6kpli7zf3/29.06.2018_15-49-55.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q2k8y5wcr/)

IS  :o

(https://s33.postimg.cc/tyxku9jy7/29.06.2018_15-50-07.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/n8h3ktwsb/)



THIS !   8)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/4swmn6qb3/29.06.2018_15-49-51.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ppsuruobv/)

Cheers

Alfie   ;D





Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: max_thehitman on July 01, 2018, 10:52:44 AM
+1

Thank you stiv_069 for your work on these superb skins !

I just checked your page over at aviaskins and found your new project......


What is it ?
Cheers

Alfie   ;D

It is a Fokker Spin (Spider) from 1910-1912..... 25 built.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_Spin

(http://flyingmachines.ru/Images7/Putnam/German_Fighter/11-1.jpg)
-
(http://www.aim72.co.uk/Spin_GA.jpg)
-


Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Fresco23 on July 01, 2018, 11:50:47 AM
Its lovely isn't it?? I have a skin ready whenever its released!

(https://s33.postimg.cc/uzfy6w5un/Ribs1.jpg)


(https://s33.postimg.cc/fdymmzjmn/Ribs_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on July 03, 2018, 09:58:36 AM

(https://s33.postimg.cc/a9qtlg0hr/03.07.2018_23-52-58.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/72wa1tg1n/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/5nupd54ov/03.07.2018_23-53-02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yq8zfyqyj/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/vjefwd1dr/03.07.2018_23-53-05.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/j4rnw19vf/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/7fno84gcv/03.07.2018_23-53-07.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/is09pwp1n/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: max_thehitman on July 03, 2018, 02:58:53 PM


Super nice!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/aATSUYMP5w1W/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on July 11, 2018, 04:12:36 AM
Half an hour of work and again my eyes became ill (.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/ki5fmee2z/11.07.2018_18-01-45.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/p41juqzlz/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/saw3ee77f/11.07.2018_18-01-54.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vui1479x3/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/475bq4463/11.07.2018_18-02-03.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mmpsniiaf/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/475bq5egr/11.07.2018_18-02-08.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/td69wzfqv/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/wws7msxwb/11.07.2018_18-02-21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6bpor8viv/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: max_thehitman on July 11, 2018, 07:05:16 AM

The details and colors look excellent! Congratulations!  8)
Beautiful classic aircraft.

Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on July 11, 2018, 07:27:39 AM
Thank you! but a little break.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on July 12, 2018, 08:24:59 AM
The base is ready.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/f0wl3dlzf/12.07.2018_22-14-23.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/af0gv10g7/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/fdnz9l6u3/12.07.2018_22-14-26.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f0wl3eok7/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6in4z2xh7/12.07.2018_22-14-35.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9phoiphx3/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on July 13, 2018, 12:19:30 AM
The work is done.

RU:Работа закончена.


(https://s15.postimg.cc/qnvechygr/13.07.2018_14-09-59.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9al3xn35j/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/bf5gyqznf/13.07.2018_14-10-04.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/z64uguzuf/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/djptzv3uz/13.07.2018_14-10-09.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dwh861m4n/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/bf5gyshnv/13.07.2018_14-10-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/n49gmr8mf/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/nh0usz16z/13.07.2018_14-10-30.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qnvecllmv/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/apmomhtzv/13.07.2018_14-10-35.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/63qke58gn/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/ygm24mhcb/13.07.2018_14-10-46.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/51gdvmcsn/)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Mission_bug on July 13, 2018, 12:23:35 AM
Excellent work as always. 8)


Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on July 13, 2018, 02:27:01 AM
Excellent work as always. 8)


Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D

Thank you
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: David Prosser on July 13, 2018, 06:46:01 AM
Excellent work, as always. What plane is it?
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on July 13, 2018, 07:43:39 AM
Excellent work, as always. What plane is it?

LWF Tractor
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Fresco23 on July 13, 2018, 10:29:19 AM
Those look marvelous Stiv!
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: dona on July 14, 2018, 10:05:10 AM
Real beauties!! Hope they will b available soon
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: max_thehitman on July 14, 2018, 10:09:09 AM


AAAH!  :o Very cool !
What roundel is that in the last picture posted?
I never saw that version.  A diamond style with red + blue. Looks nice.

Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on July 14, 2018, 11:49:46 AM
This is the sign of the Far Eastern Republic. This is the civil war in Russia in 1920-1922
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Eastern_Republic
http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/img_788463_1355764700_farman-30-003.jpg.html
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: max_thehitman on July 14, 2018, 01:18:52 PM

Very interesting for me ! I am always learning new things from history.

Thank you Stiv   8)
Keep up the great skin art, I am a fan!

Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 02, 2019, 07:33:25 AM
Maybe it makes sense to revive the project? And most importantly, the option under 4.10 is needed.

Может есть смысл оживить проект? И главное нужен вариант под 4.10.
(https://i.postimg.cc/9QdT8g1g/02-05-2019-21-09-26.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NK05L43R)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XvDwdGsn/02-05-2019-21-09-41.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/McVM8TkL)

(https://i.postimg.cc/DfRBRDd7/02-05-2019-21-09-36.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXcfCszP)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on May 02, 2019, 08:13:36 AM
Indeed yes.  :) Your eyes problems have improved?
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 02, 2019, 09:42:24 AM
Indeed yes.  :) Your eyes problems have improved?

Unfortunately no. Today I worked longer than necessary, and here again the problem is with my eyes. But after all, I have already done skins on several planes and they can already be laid out.

Увы нет. Сегодня работал дольше чем надо, вот и снова с глазами проблема. Но ведь я же на на несколько самолетов уже сделал шкуры и их можно уже выложить.

Ansaldo_A1
SikorskyS12
SikorskyS12bis
SikorskyS16_3
SikorskyS16_Ser
MoscaMB
MoscaMB_Bis
Lebed_12
Lebed_12HS
Lebed_12Early
SPAD_A2
SPAD_A4
LWF_Tractor

Anade_Late - в работе

Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 06, 2019, 10:24:34 PM
there is a distortion on the upper wing, but I cannot do anything here.

на верхнем крыле есть искажение, но тут я уже ничего поделать не могу.
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQj7bfCp/07-05-2019-12-12-09.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vDDH933t)

(https://i.postimg.cc/132401xn/07-05-2019-12-12-14.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bj5qsyn4)

(https://i.postimg.cc/c4JJVL0t/07-05-2019-12-12-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WP7G7y3)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hjgDMS2j/07-05-2019-12-12-19.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sB6CgRdd)

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDxzSYKz/07-05-2019-12-12-23.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nMQfp53g)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: Dreamk on May 07, 2019, 07:17:01 AM
I'll try to see what I can do with that wing's mapping. I have not touched any 3d graphical program for the last 3 months but I'm beginning to use my right hand almost freely now, though there are still some limitations and pains, the surgery really improved the situation. 
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on May 07, 2019, 10:24:22 PM

Test skin without small things and other things.

Тестовый скин без мелочевки и прочего.
(https://i.postimg.cc/4y6vCVgh/08-05-2019-11-58-52.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSvSkGdz)

(https://i.postimg.cc/J48cN6N3/08-05-2019-11-58-55.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MXsQxYrX)

(https://i.postimg.cc/y8Ym5Drk/08-05-2019-11-59-15.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/svqGGgzr)
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: RealDarko on May 10, 2019, 10:40:16 AM
east front in WW1 is always interesting, hope you eyes will improve, try not to force them.
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: stiv_069 on June 24, 2019, 08:02:46 AM
All I could.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZYFCDDq9/24-06-2019-21-30-12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0rjkznDx)

(https://i.postimg.cc/g0Z0yg52/24-06-2019-21-30-15.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4KXZsQsD)

(https://i.postimg.cc/8ctkk9Ft/24-06-2019-21-30-31.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cnnpmvsq)

(https://i.postimg.cc/rwdychqN/24-06-2019-21-30-35.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4YgRQQ7Y)

(https://i.postimg.cc/V6wzqmnK/24-06-2019-21-30-48.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/f3H4Z4Hd)

https://yadi.sk/d/p9I2Urjc78fqLA
Title: Re: Krasnyi Vostock - Orient is Red
Post by: vonofterdingen on June 24, 2019, 12:12:57 PM
Your work is highly appreciated.