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Title: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1 [4.09]
Post by: SAS~CirX on October 09, 2009, 11:54:51 AM
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/SASMAGES/y7ugomig6.jpg)

hi Guys

We had trouble with our old version of FC Lite, which is derived from Sanka's excellent mod. We removed that long ago, and made a stadard "Thin" version, which is the same as Sanke's, only minus the default skins for some planes. it is thus a whole lot "lighter". (More than 200MB compressed in 5 parts vs less than 9Mb)

Here is the edited extract from the opening post of the previous version, just as a reminder of where this is going:

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....the original Forgotten Countries by Sanka (and he is one of the coolest cats in modding!) was just a bit too big and complicated for some users. And because Sanka assigned sides from a western viewpoint, the sides ended up not always making sense in coldwar historical terms. For example, all middle eastern countries ended up blue, or western, while israel was red. Similarily, north korea was blue while south Korea was red.

The correct way to do it was to take a USSR centric view. Whatever side the USSR was, will be red. Then  you have a few countries that move from red to blue at the start of the cold war, and vice verca, while others, like the Koreas and the Middle eastern countries, start off in opposites to the original FC mod right away. I know it sounds complicated, but believe me, it makes a lot more sense.

Now we have started down the path to update this mod, with v3. We will do the update in 3 steps. v3 is step one.
Step 1: Switch Countries that are the wrong color
Step 2: Create Duplicate Countries in cases where countries switched color post or pre war
Step 3: Refine Country names and add any missing countries

Of course the SAS version of this still contains McWolf's decalshine mod integrated into it.

Download FC Lite Thin Version 3.1 (http://storebror.it.cx/sas/archive/sasdl/workshop/ForgottenCountries_Thin_SAS_SwitchV3point1.7z)

My Salutes to Sanka & McWolf!
CirX
 :)

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v3.1 changes:
Full Mission Builder Static Planes Issue fixed
New 4.09m Italian squadrons added
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v3 switches:

//Stock

de Germany
fi Finland
fr France
gb RAF
hu Hungary
it Italy
ja IJA
pl Poland
ro Romania
sk Slovakia
ru USSR
us USAAF
un USN
um USMC
ra RAAF
rz RNZAF
rn RN
in IJN
du NL

//red

yu Yugoslavia
ab Abyssinia
ca Canada
sa South Africa
cn Republic of China (pre 1949)
cz Czechoslovakia
il Italy (ICAF) Allied
rl Romania Allied
fl Finland Allied
gr Greece
dd German Democratic Republic
hy Hungary (red sided)
mg Managua
nl Netherlands (LV Europe)
es Republican Spain
re Russian Empire
bl Bulgaria (Allied)
ap Partisan
id India

//blue

vb Great Britain (Alternative Blue)
na USA (Alternative Blue)
sp Nationalist Spain
ar Argentina
bg Bulgaria
hr Croatia
co Colombia
ee Estonia
ir Iran
ia Italy (ANR, 1943-45)
mk Manchukuo
lv Latvia
lt Lithuania
pa Paraguay
pn Poland (Axis)
pk Pakistan
rb Russian Liberation Army
tk Turkey
sw Sweden
vi Vichy France

//moved completely from red to blue

pt Portugal
at Austria
bo Bolivia
br Brazil
mx Mexico
dk Denmark
ph Philippines
no Norway
pe Peru
ur Uruguay
th Thailand
is Israel
kr Republic of Korea (South)

//move completely from blue to red

kp North Korea
sy Syria
eg Egypt
ik Iraq
cc China (PLA post 1945)

How to remove a country from Forgotten Countries:
Some countries may just be getting in your way and you want to just take them out. Here is how.
~ Open the mod, and open the regiments.ini file inside the paintschemes folder.

You will see, this is divided into a Red section first, and then a Blue section second.
each country is represented by a 2 letter code followed by a 01 or a NN.
For example, Argentina is ar01
Some countries also have specific regiments, or squadrons listed under their name.

~Open up the country_ru.properties file inside the i18n folder
In here you can look up which country belongs to which code.

To remove a country, you must remove it from the regiments.ini file, along with any of it's squadrons (if it has any)
~You can remove it by deletion, or by placing a "//" in front of it's lines
~TIP: I have arranged all the new nations at the end of the respective Red and Blue sections in regiments.ini

Cheers
CirX
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Lite ~ Revisit
Post by: Ectoflyer on December 21, 2009, 02:52:33 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
A really much more easy install, and it's compatible with MAT MANAGER !!!! ;D
good work
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Lite ~ Revisit
Post by: Cracken on December 28, 2009, 02:06:42 AM
Can you add Czech voice pack to Czechoslovak units?

http://www.4shared.com/file/112023346/7f978702/Czech_voicepack.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/112023346/7f978702/Czech_voicepack.html)
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3
Post by: Gaston on January 07, 2010, 02:47:23 PM
But now, no possibilities to make the greatest conflict of all : the Chinese Civil War !!!

This is why, with Sanka, we used to center the mod around USSR for Europe, and Japan for the Far East... I see incompatibilities coming...
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3
Post by: SAS~CirX on January 07, 2010, 03:14:03 PM
But now, no possibilities to make the greatest conflict of all : the Chinese Civil War !!!

This is why, with Sanka, we used to center the mod around USSR for Europe, and Japan for the Far East... I see incompatibilities coming...


no. As I explained in the thread ,and in the help requests,:
"Now we have started down the path to update this mod, with v3. We will do the update in 3 steps. v3 is step one.
Step 1: Switch Countries that are the wrong color
Step 2: Create Duplicate Countries in cases where countries switched color post or pre war
Step 3: Refine Country names and add any missing countries"

So, I think the Rep of chine should be blue for the AVG part. I will definitely create a duplicate slot for it in step 2. I am realy only trying my best here, and going one step at a time. I do not claim it is perfect, it is just a step, and people are of course welcome to use the original mod by Sanka. The original is a very good mod, and I am not saying it is wrong, I am just saying, this is my version.

Great mod, but it disables the new italian squadrons of v4.09m.

I will look at this in step 3 for sure. This mod still comes from 4.08/4.09b1m days, so it will not have had those new squads yet.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3
Post by: Mission_bug on January 07, 2010, 03:17:00 PM
Moved permanently from red to blue?

Portugal was allied to the UK and USA.  RAF B-17's operated from Portugese airfields to cover the Atlantic convoys didn't they.
Brazil was allied to USA.  I'm sure their P-47's flew with allied forces in Italy.
Denmark, Blue? weren't they invaded by Germany?

And I'm sure the Phillipines and Norway were invaded by the blue side, japan and Germany.

Israel could hardly be considered blue could it?

Just my thoughts on this.

Looking at the others there are problems also.

All the best, Pete.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3
Post by: SAS~CirX on January 07, 2010, 03:29:04 PM
I asked for help and advice on all these. They are not cast in stone. But it is not always about the nation itself, but about the markings. I am sure any mistakes picked up will surface and we shall sort them later.

You have to view this as  some airforces were only active after WW2, in the cold war, thus blue. Blue is "axis" in WW2, but it is "NATO" afterwards, because USSR stays red. As I explained:

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take a USSR centric view. Whatever side the USSR was, will be red. Then  you have a few countries that move from red to blue at the start of the cold war, and vice verca, while others, like the Koreas and the Middle eastern countries, start off in opposites to the original FC mod right away. I know it sounds complicated, but believe me, it makes a lot more sense.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: SAS~CirX on January 24, 2010, 04:22:46 AM
I agree about the missions bug thing. I am trying to get our ForgottenCOuntries on a level with the HSFX version, which means adding many regiments, and moving many sides back while creating duplicates.

Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Birdman on January 24, 2010, 09:47:34 AM
Thanks a lot!

I have been hoping for a Forgotten Countries mod that includes all HSFX countries and regiments together with all new countries and good markings.

Actually the only thing I don't like in HSFX countries is that Sweden, Norway, Denmark and allied Finland don't have any markings.
I'd like to see a missing markings patch that adds only those missing markings to HSFX/UP so that we can fix that issue without installing 3000+ files in MODS folder.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: DouglasPaulKing on February 04, 2010, 09:03:28 AM
... I just do not understand why both Bolivia and Paraguay are blue?? It would not be possible to recreate Gran Chaco War when both sides are set to blue...

+ 1 to this point.
Bolivia purchased aircraft in the USA and Great Britain, mostly.
Paraguay purchased aircraft from Italy, Argentina, and few other Countries.

Normally, to avoid problems, Bolivia should be "red" and Paraguay should be "blue".
Argentine was neutral, but "friendly" to Paraguay, (so better make Argentina "blue"), while Brazil was neutral but more in touch with Bolivia, so it should be "red" too.

:)
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: SAS~CirX on February 04, 2010, 09:59:55 AM
thanx for this feedback guys, I will use it all with the nes=xt version, it is very valuable info, and I dont have time to do it all myself.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Lulu on February 09, 2010, 06:40:37 AM
Please, put Argentina red side, as it was. Beside, a lot of argentinian volunteers flew ehit the RAF!
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: AKD on February 09, 2010, 07:21:07 AM
Argentinians, Norwegians, etc. flew with the RAF.  Home country doesn't really matter (from the game's perspective).
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Benelli on February 15, 2010, 05:32:26 PM
Hi men, just a little hint:
looking at the nations list, I noticed that in this version we've lost two nations (already in the old AAA version). The countries are:

be Belgium
ch Switzerland

Decals are already in this latest version, so can these two lines be added?
Thanks.

And just for completation, some squadrons are missing. I found, for now, many RAF squadrons missing (but they can be easily added compiling regiments.ini), you can notice this by playing night Ruhr mission posted in this site.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: SAS~CirX on February 15, 2010, 05:41:29 PM
Yes I also picked that up. They were lost by mistake.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Snowleopard on April 17, 2010, 02:16:24 AM
CC and CN are really enemy each other and did have many air conflict in early cold war.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Cracken on April 17, 2010, 11:47:49 AM
I have noticed that Czechoslovak squadrons (in RAF and VVS) are missing. But they are contained in sanka's original FCs...
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Scharnhorst1943 on June 02, 2010, 02:43:24 AM
I have to report a bug!

The sea hurricanes do not work with this mod. There is some kind of compatibility issue and I have traced it to this mod.

Does a workaround exist, or does there need to be an update to this mod?
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: SAS~CirX on June 02, 2010, 04:51:31 AM
What exact problem are you having? I have Amto's hurricane pack with seahurricanse, and with FC, and it seems fine to me.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Birdman on June 02, 2010, 05:22:03 PM
I had that bug earlier with old separate SeaHurricane mod, and I thus had disabled the Forgotten Countries mod.
Now I re-enabled the Forgotten Countries and the bug with SeaHurricanes is gone because i now have the new fixed Anto's Hurricane pack.

So the fix for that bug seems to be to update the Hurricanes and make sure the old SeaHurricane mod is removed.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: stockplane on July 16, 2010, 07:20:09 AM
I have casually found a problem with Forgotten Countries : the markings for IA ( RSI- ANR ) appear blank in the tail, not apper in fusolage and in the wings appers only in the upper surface and not in the lower. Is possible solved that?
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: dasoviet.jw on October 18, 2010, 08:24:44 PM
is there a way to change the RAAF logo to the propper thing (in game kangaroo missing)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Royal_Australian_Air_Force_roundel.png/600px-Royal_Australian_Air_Force_roundel.png)
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: dasoviet.jw on October 18, 2010, 09:16:53 PM
It probably is a post war marking but i think that it just looks better

I could not find any raaf folder i looked under country_ru and it says that its letters are RA , but theres no folder called that
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Killer Ghost on November 08, 2010, 01:06:32 PM
is there any way to have a fix to HSFX, I dont like how some usa sided counterys r red and ussr sided are blue.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: FS~FoxBat on November 08, 2010, 01:26:11 PM
One thing that would have been nice is if it in the gui where able to add a second scroll window where the regiments for the selected country could be, as like now finding a country among a trillion of squads is a PITA. and makes building missions more time consuming then nessesary.I also hope this fix that is being done here will end up in the next version of ultrapack for us online guys, so we are able to join the same game without conflicts!:)
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: SAS~Malone on November 08, 2010, 11:38:27 PM
guys, there won't be any updats for this mod, but a new version is in the works, so you're welcome to make requests (in the correct area ;)) , but there won't be any 'fixes' happening for this version.....it's not the kind of mod that can have a 'quick fix', anyway....the smallest change requires a major rewrite... ::)
@FS~Foxbat, Frog's Formation mod already has this separate country/regiments tab included in FMB menu, and it's a real must-have mod - so either use that if still available, or wait for him to release the new version....but yes, that irritating scrolling issue is a thing of the past.  :D
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: FS~FoxBat on November 09, 2010, 06:17:07 AM
Ty for answer Malone, but then again all would have  to have that installed for it to work. its been a problem for us online players joining due to the conflicts with the forgotten countrys stuff. thats why id hope it somehow got to be a universial fix for it that all used. so no more invisible planes and so on!:)
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: NS~mati140 on November 09, 2010, 12:23:34 PM
EEEE, I think you missed PLA (People's Liberation Army) of China, it should be added to blue (it was there in AAA version).
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: CorsairKira on November 09, 2010, 11:26:30 PM
Nice!  I too get the failure message with loading the Sea Hurricane.  Not sure what's up with that.  Guess the poor old Sea Hurricane gets tabled for the time being.  There do seem to be some odd choices of which country goes on which side, though.  Eh.  At least it's in the game.  Nice work.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: MR_G on November 26, 2010, 10:03:39 AM
I've been using this Mod for a few months now, and everything is working fine.
My question concerns missing RAF squadrons. I've learned how to add them into the Forgotten Countries folder, so that they show up as a squadron option when building missions, but instead of the proper letter codes, the ones that I added all show up as squadron AB.
Are these squadrons codes "hard coded" into the game, or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: MR_G on November 27, 2010, 08:45:45 PM
My problem is solved.
I figured out where the key was. I can now add any squadron with the proper letter or number code.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on November 28, 2010, 07:15:19 AM
My problem is solved.
I figured out where the key was. I can now add any squadron with the proper letter or number code.

Hi mate!

I'm really interested in adding new squadrons to the game too!

Can you give me some tips about how you managed to do?

Thanks in advance!

walter
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: MR_G on November 28, 2010, 10:55:20 AM
Step #1: Have this Mod installed (FC Thin..SAS Switch v3.1
Step #2: Determine what squadron you want to add....(For example: Fictional Squadron RAF99 Code ZZ)
Step #3 Save a copy of the FC Thin Mod (in case you really screw it up)
Step #4 Go into the Mod, and go into the i18n folder. Go into the regInfo.Properties file, and open with word pad. Go down until you see "gb01        United Kingdom Army - <none>".  Scroll down a few more lines until you see "318LW       318th 'Gdanski' Recce-Fighter Squadron".  Look at how the squadrons are entered....
Like this:
113Squadron        113 Squadron RAF
enter you new squadron the same way.....
99Squadron          99 Squadron

The squadron codes will be added later.


After you finish this step, repeat the same thing in the regInfo_ru.properties file, the regShort.Properties, and the regShort_ru.Properties file.

Step #5. Go into the PaintSchemes folder in the Mod and go into the Cache folder. Copy one of the files in there to your desktop, and rename it 99Squadron. Return this file to the Cache folder.

Step #6. In that same PaintSchemes folder, go into the folder marked Red. Find a tga for a known RAF squadron that does not have a squadron image inside. Copy this tga file, AND the matching "file" file, to your desktop. Rename the tga and the file file to 99Squadron.tga and the file to 99Squadron.

Open the "file" file with wordpad, and you will see something like this:
country      = GB
id           = QJ
gruppeNumber = 1
speech       = GB
short        = 92 Squadron
info         = 92 Fighter Squadron

Change the id to ZZ  (the squadron code of squadron99), and the "short", and "info" to : 99

(don't forget to save before closing all files)

DONE!
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: SAS~Malone on November 28, 2010, 11:08:45 AM
thanks for that little tuto, MR_G, i'm sure a lot of guys will appreciate it.  ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: MR_G on November 28, 2010, 01:57:40 PM
It wasn't until I looked inside the "file" file, that I figured out that that was the location of the squadron code.
This proves that even a blind man can see occasionally.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on November 30, 2010, 11:18:18 AM
Thanks mate for the tutorial!

Did you test if it work only with Forgotten Country or it can work even with the default ones?

I'm sorry to ask this but I was out from my game from 12th of october and I can'figure when I'll have the time to make me on pair with all the update!

:(

All the best!

walter
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: MR_G on November 30, 2010, 11:45:37 AM
You need to FC Mod to do this...(as far as I can tell)

Without this mod, all the squadron info is in SFS files.

When I added the FC mod, I followed instructions and got rid of many of the countries that I had no need of. (Like a "blue" USA)
Most of the missions that I make for myself take place from 1939 to early 1943.
My PC is pretty limited, so I mostly use the BOF map, and the Circus maps for the Western front.
The Cross channel and the BOB map end up running like a slide show. The Biscay map is even worse with my system.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: SAS~Malone on November 30, 2010, 11:54:20 AM
i tried to do as per your guide on my Modact version, but with the earlier FC version, but nothing happened, the new squadron didn't appear in the list. will try later using the newer FC version.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: MR_G on November 30, 2010, 09:15:59 PM
I added 8 to 10 squadrons, today, with no problems......

But then.....

I tried to add 219 squadron, that flew Beaufighter 1F's, out of Tangmere, in late 40 & 41. I followed all the steps, but couldn't get it to work. Either I did something wrong, or there is more to this, than I thought.

I will try to make 219 work.....or die trying.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: MR_G on November 30, 2010, 09:46:11 PM
I discovered my mistake.
I copied a "file" file and a Tga from a working RAF squadron that was named XXSqn. I renamed them 219Sqn. It didn't work because I should have renamed them both 219Squadron because that was how I made all me entries in the Regiments.ini, and all the regInfo and regShort files.

219 is working now.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: SAS~Malone on November 30, 2010, 10:32:17 PM
MR_G, there's one little line in your tutorial that i'm not 100% sure of, so now's probably the best time to ask: 'Find a tga for a known RAF squadron that does not have a squadron image inside.'
what exactly does this mean? is it a squadron that doesn't have a unit 'badge'?
i just need a bit of clarity on that one, please....far as i can tell, all the squadrons (in FC) have a unit tga and 'file' file.
in my case, i wanted to create a fictional SAAF squadron, Malones Marauders.
i made the necessary changes in regInfo, regInfo_ru, regShort and regShort_ru.
in all 4 cases, under the SAAF section, the new entry looked like this:
MaloneMarauders   Malone Marauders
then, i took a squadron tga and its associated 'file' from the Paintschemes/Red folder, pretty much at random (that's the bit i'm unsure of), renamed them to MaloneMarauders, changing the squad code in the 'file' file, and put them back into the Red folder.
thinking that should be it, i loaded up, and the new squadron was nowhere to be found... :(
any ideas?
oh, btw, i might move these last few posts to tech help at some point, don't want to clutter up the main thread with my little problem.  ;)

edit: i also just tried a straight-forward change to an existing squadron code, with no success....would this only work for a newly-created squadron?  ???
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: MR_G on December 01, 2010, 06:46:47 AM
Most of the tga's have no image on them, but some have a squadron "badge" on them. I also noticed that a few of the tga's are only a few bytes. I don't use those.
I use the blank tga's and rename then to the squadron I want to make.
If I was going to make up a new SAAF squadron, I would carefully look at some of the existing ones and try to duplicate exactly how they look. The key is the "file" file. You have to open it and make sure all the squadron info is in there correctly.
I'll try to take a look at the SAAF format tonight, when I get home.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 01, 2010, 07:11:11 AM
cheers, G_man  :D
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: MR_G on December 01, 2010, 07:58:04 PM
OK, I'm learning things as a go along.
Here's what I've got so far. I have a new SAAF squadron #99 with the squadron code MM.
I was able to do this using ONLY the Red folder, and the regiments.ini. (I don't understand this)

Step#1 Go into the Red folder and copy the 25SqnRAAF "file" file to your desktop.
Step#2 In the same folder copy the 601Squadron.tga to your desktop...(this is because all the SAAF.tga's have a squadron emblem on the file, and the 601 squadron tga is blank)
Step#3 Rename the 601Squadron.tga to 99SqnSAAF.tga
Step#4 Rename the 25SqnRAAF "file" file to 99SqnRAAF
Step#5 Open the renamed "file" file and change the data to:

country      = SA
id           = MM
gruppeNumber = 1
speech       = GB
short        = 99 Squadron SAAF
info         = 99 Squadron SAAF

Step#6 add 99SqnSAAF to the regimants.ini
Step#7 use QMB to test.

I used squadron 99 for no special reason. You can make it whatever you want.
I used MM as the squadron code for Malones Marauders.(again, use what you want.

I was under the impression that changes had to be made in the i18n folder, but tonight, I discovered that you don't have to touch them. (I have a feeling that they can be used to spell out Malones Marauders in the pull down menu of squadrons. They may override the regiment.ini description)

All this thinking is making my brain overheat. I need to get in a Spit from 266 squadron and do battle with some ace 109's.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 01, 2010, 11:48:02 PM
thanks G - lol, yeah, it can get a bit much at times, this modding business....good idea to go and fly for a bit, and forget al about all the little bits of code that run in the background to make it all happen. :D ;D
i'll give your latest tips a try, and carry on experimenting from my side, as well.  ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: MR_G on December 02, 2010, 06:57:05 PM
I did it........

If you follow my instructions above, and make the proper entries in the Red folder, and the regiments.ini file, you will get that new squadron in the SAAF.

Next......If you want the squadron to show as the Malones Marauders in your pull down screen, do this.

Go into your i18n folder, and add to the SAAF squadron list, for the regInfo.properties, the regInfo.ru_properties, the regShort.properties, and the regShort.ru_properties, the following line, after the last SAAF squadron listing......
.
.
99SqnSAAF   99 Squadron Malones Marauders SAAF

You will see "99 Squadron Malones Marauders SAAF" in the pull down screen.

I am using 4.09m with the SAS mod, but I can't see why this wouldn't work with UP.

My guess was right, about the i18n file discription overriding the "PaintSchemes" discription
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: mad_pilot on December 11, 2010, 03:01:11 AM
Bulgarian markings are little wrong on Mig's planes how can i change the number's location? and remove the decals from the wings ?
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: mad_pilot on December 11, 2010, 03:56:46 AM
Okay here are the pics.I readed your post and i think that this cannot be fixed, anyway this addon is good :)
(http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/7A/CF/78f7c4b170a67acf.jpg)
(http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/B4/97/4db815d2c233b497.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: mad_pilot on December 11, 2010, 05:33:45 AM
No problem :) I think on the other planes (not mods) the decals are correct.
Good work!
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: BP_dFrog on December 12, 2010, 02:41:51 AM
Czechoslovak markings are incorrect too. On all planes left wing marking - red color has to be closer to the fuselage. Right wing is OK. Markings below are missing on both wings. And they have to be the same - red closer to the fuselage.

Markings on Czechoslovak MiG-15's are placed similar like on Bulgarian's mentioned above, but with a minor changes. There were no markings on the fuselage. Markings on the tail are below the elevator. Early markings on the MiG-15's nose were 2 letters - 2 digits in black. Late markings were 4 digit code on the fuselage behind wings instead on the nose.

MiG-17's had the same late markings.

MiG-15 late - http://www.paulnann.com/images/pn_w7685.jpg
MiG-17PF - http://www.paulnann.com/images/pn_w5397.jpg
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: warhawk on December 23, 2010, 02:34:06 AM
One little request. Could the tail markings on Yugoslav Spits and Hurris be rotated 90 degrees, since that was like in reality

Also, the stars were a little "fat", since, they were painted over red circle, but there was not room inside tre remaining roundel for a proper star.

(http://aces.safarikovi.org/victories/obr1/yugoslavia_spitfire_1s.jpg)

If not, could they be removed, so I could use them on a skin?

regards
Aleksandar
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Batbomb on January 06, 2011, 06:12:40 AM
I dont now if this was accounted already but Vietnam is missing. The Russian version of this has vietnam.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Killer Ghost on January 29, 2011, 01:41:10 PM
a vietnam would be great.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: LuseKofte on February 20, 2011, 09:03:57 AM
With this mod my avia D-5** and I-15 do not work on 4,10
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: agracier on February 20, 2011, 09:07:10 AM
With this mod my avia D-5** and I-15 do not work on 4,10

That's right. Unfortunately this mod causes quite a few planes to crash in 4.10 ... guess we'll have to be patient for a 4.10 version
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: LuseKofte on February 20, 2011, 10:53:00 AM
Yes making of missions that I love the most is your spanish map, totally meaningless with wrong markings since the AC in that period cant fly with this mods
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: agracier on February 20, 2011, 11:15:37 AM
Yes making of missions that I love the most is your spanish map, totally meaningless with wrong markings since the AC in that period cant fly with this mods

Well, even in 4.09, it as better to use dedicated SCW skins with markings and all, since scw markings are not that easy to fit onto many models of aircraft ...
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: llama_thumper on May 29, 2011, 06:20:01 PM
hi all,

just an idea/thought -given the PZL-37 Los and PZL-23 Karas are now in UP3, would it be possible to include appropriate squadrons for them? Ideally I suppose in the Forgotten Countries mod, as I understand it's to be part of UP3?

I have done some research and attach a link to a zip file with all of them. alternatively, if it's not allowed to link to these, attached a link to the website which has the collection of squadrons I've been able to put together - please note the names of the files are the actual squadron names (also at the very bottom of this post, for easy cut & paste if needed).

http://redo.net/temp/public/squads/squads.7z
http://redo.net/temp/public/squads/

below the translated webpage for the squadrons I could find, should you need them. Some of them are actually "Observation (Obserwacyjna)" or "Reconaissance (Rozpoznawcza)" squadrons but flew the PZL-23. There also one or two that flew only the RWD-8 however I have included them nevertheless.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F56_Eskadra_Obserwacyjna

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F31_Eskadra_Rozpoznawcza

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F26_Eskadra_Obserwacyjna

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F66_Eskadra_Obserwacyjna

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F63_Eskadra_Obserwacyjna


http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F33_Eskadra_Obserwacyjna

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F46_Eskadra_Obserwacyjna

http://library.kiwix.org:4216/A/22%20eskadra%20bombowa%20[Wikipedia].html

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F212_Eskadra_Bombowa

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F51_Eskadra_Rozpoznawcza

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F43_Eskadra_Obserwacyjna

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F65_Eskadra_Bombowa

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F24_Eskadra_Rozpoznawcza


22 Eskadra Bombowa
24 Eskadra Rozpoznawcza
26 Eskadra Obserwacyjna
31 Eskadra Rozpoznawcza
33 Eskadra Obserwacyjna
41 Eskadra Rozpoznawcza
42 Eskadra Rozpoznawcza
43 Eskadra Obserwacyjna
46 Eskadra Obserwacyjna
51 Eskadra Rozpoznawcza
55 Samodzielna Eskadra Bombowa
56 Eskadra Obserwacyjna
64 Eskadra Bombowa
65 Eskadra Bombowa
66 Eskadra Obserwacyjna
212 Eskadra Bombowa
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Radoye on June 15, 2011, 10:41:42 PM
I just detected this small bug in the forgotten countries (DBW version) - i'm not sure if this is the right place to post about it but anyway - it's regarding the Royal Yugoslav Airforce markings.

Currently the mod displays the roundel in the fuselage position, and actually there should be no fuselage roundel - only on wings.

Like this:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/YRAF_Hawker_Hurricane.jpg)

(http://lifthereserbia.50webs.com/images/303-LH---Me-109E3.gif)

(http://warandgame.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/77_41.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on June 16, 2011, 04:21:53 AM
This don't depend from this mod but by the plane decals management!
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Radoye on June 16, 2011, 06:45:59 AM
This don't depend from this mod but by the plane decals management!
Is the same decal tga file used for the fuselage and the wings?

if not, then the fuselage decal could be replaced with a transparent 1x1 tga file so even if the game places it there it is still invisible...
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Dutchbag on June 25, 2011, 04:30:45 AM
Hey guys, my first post here. I can't seem to install. The new nations don't appear in QMB and i even cleansed FMB, nothing. Where do i need to install the files?
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: Flanker1985 on April 29, 2013, 01:00:19 PM
Can we have a new version of the "Forgotten Countries" that is fully compatible with newest version of the game, HSFX and UP? Please~! Please~! Please~! Please~!
Thanks a lot.

Actually all we need it to have PLA in the red side so we can play Korea games properly. Thanks for any consideration.

So far this version is no longer compatible with newest HSFX, I tried to enable it in JSGME, but it gave me nothing at all. So I put it into the MODS folder. Then it worked but it cause game to crash if you try to load some plane such as I-16 type 5 and 6.
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1
Post by: King_109 on February 23, 2015, 08:30:38 AM
Please help are you fix it?  :'-(
(http://i.hizliresim.com/j4QEkG.png) (http://hizliresim.com/j4QEkG)
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1 [4.09]
Post by: Kyle14397 on June 30, 2018, 06:34:15 PM
Doe's this include stock countries that you can remove?
Title: Re: Forgotten Countries Thin ~ SAS Switch v3.1 [4.09]
Post by: milvipes on October 18, 2018, 01:21:18 PM
How do you switch the color of marking numbers? Let's say I want to use dark numbers (those used by USAAF) on my Russian planes.