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Individual Mod Downloads for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => Italian_Singles => Topic started by: Frankiek on September 03, 2009, 11:21:27 AM

Title: CR-32 [4.09] [4.10]
Post by: Frankiek on September 03, 2009, 11:21:27 AM
Stiill in the spirit to complete the line up for the SCW I am posting here the Fiat CR-32.

(http://www.tuttovola.org/mkportal/modules/hostfile/file/Frankiek/CockpitCR-32.jpg)

This mod of the CR-32 has a long development history: it was initially conceived as a substitute of the CR-42.
It was subsequently given it's own slot and today benefits from some restiling of the 3d and additional load-outs
and I think that this is an example of how the iIl-2 community can come together and little by little do some nice things. So a big thanks to all the contributors (see below for a detailed list of contributors and sorry for eventual omissions).

This plane is a CR-32 of the Spanish Civil War period when a close-support fighter version was developped.
Initially armed with twin Breda-SAFAT Mod.1928Av. 7.7 mm (.303 in) and twin 12.7 mm (.5 in) machine guns plus
Bomb racks with ability to carry 100 kg (220 lb) bombload possible: 1 × 100 kg (220 lb) or 2 × 50 kg (110 lb) or bomblets. A common field modification was to discard the 7.7 mm armament to reduce weight.
Subsequently further improvements were introduced with reduced weight, added radio and max speed 356 km/h (221 mph) at 3,000 m (9,843 ft); This plane was still in service at the beginning of WWII and it was used mainly in the African theatre in the close support/ground attack role

Drop the folder in your mod folder and add the following lines to air.ini Plane_ru and weapon_ru files and ready. The skin folder can be dropped in the ...\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\PaintSchemes\Skins folder and you are ready to get airborne

For Ultrapack 1.8 users: This mod is compatible with the CR-32 available in the pack

Lines to add

Air.ini entry:

CR-32quater             air.CR_32quater 2                          i01   SUMMER


Plane_ru.properties:

CR-32quater             Fiat CR. 32 Quater, 1937


Weapons_ru.properties:

#####################################################################
# CR-32quater 
#####################################################################
CR-32quater.default                     Default
CR-32quater.2x50Kg_Bombs           2x50kg Bombs
CR-32quater.1x100Kg_Bomb           1x100kg Bomb
CR-32quater.2_Cassette               12x2 kg Bomblets
CR-32quater.none                        Empty
#####################################################################

Skin folder name: CR-32quater


Thank and credits to:

1C and Oleg, were it all begun and a great CR-42
Ranwers, Frankenplane derived from the CR-42
Sjack (I hope I got it right this time) own slot, posted by Chameleon at Aviaskins
Real Darko and Slow, 3d modifications
Spanish Il-2 community a lot of info and encouragements
Frankiek, classes and 3d modifications
Alban, Additional skins

Tested for compatibility with 4.10.1 and working fine with clean install 4.10.1 +SAS Modact 2.72

DOWNLOAD LINK RIGHT UNDER THIS LINE!

CR-32 Quater Download (http://storebror.it.cx/sas/archive/sas2/Frankiek/CR_32.7z)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: SAS~CirX on September 03, 2009, 11:35:53 AM
Thanx for posting it Frankiek!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on September 03, 2009, 11:39:48 AM
That was quick you must have a complete collection thanks for making the post nicer,

I confirm the own FM but still little bit too similar to his grand-parent,

I am working on the FM and I made some modifications but would like to test it against some good historical data on what this plane could really do if somebody could point me in the good direction I would appreciate     
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Chewaca on September 03, 2009, 11:40:25 AM
Thank you thank you thank you
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on September 03, 2009, 11:47:00 AM
Me ans Slow made this mod some time ago, is still far from perfect as I have no idea of how to paint the TGA file that skins the wheel spats, also the prop looks like a three bladed one where it is not. If any modder is interested let me know please.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/grab0000-39.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/grab0001-18.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/grab0002-11.jpg)

Oh, the plane was so good that it appeared as Cr-32 in a spanish TV documental!!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: ftarquisa on September 03, 2009, 11:48:24 AM
Thank you thank you thank you

and ty ty ty ty ty ty
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on September 03, 2009, 11:56:55 AM
Me ans Slow made this mod some time ago, is still far from perfect as I have no idea of how to paint the TGA file that skins the wheel spats, also the prop looks like a three bladed one where it is not. If any modder is interested let me know please.

Real Darko,
as said above I am interested in improving what we have now so please let's talk about it

Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on September 03, 2009, 12:52:36 PM
Frankiek please check your PM
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: alge_1 on September 03, 2009, 01:25:28 PM
Cr.32 info:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/394728/thread/1242065148/Sobre+el+mensaje+de+Vicente+Querol+Fiat+Cr-32 (http://www.network54.com/Forum/394728/thread/1242065148/Sobre+el+mensaje+de+Vicente+Querol+Fiat+Cr-32)




(http://personal.telefonica.terra.es/web/lupinn/cuatro%20vientos/P2200011.JPG)

(http://www.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2008-5/24/15715.jpg)

(http://www.ejercitodelaire.mde.es/stweb/ea/ficheros/jpg/1A0FD039CEE59ADDC125747A002748EBT00.jpg)

Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Chewaca on September 03, 2009, 01:41:24 PM
Ah8i esta mi Alge con dos..... buenas fientes de informacion  :D :D
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on September 03, 2009, 01:53:26 PM
Alge you are a goldmine, thanks for the info. As I am also working on the FM do you know were i can find some reliable data on the plane flight carachteristic, TAS at different altitudes, rates of climb, turn rates etc. I couldn't find much on the net. Thanks again
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: alge_1 on September 03, 2009, 01:54:02 PM
Ah8i esta mi Alge con dos..... buenas fientes de informacion  :D :D

Puesto que no tengo ni p*** idea de modificar aviones... con algo hay que colaborar jejeje.
Lo que no encuentro por ningún lado es aquel walkaround del fiat del museo del aire que creo que estaba en la antigua web del proyecto SCW.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: alge_1 on September 03, 2009, 02:12:05 PM
Alge you are a goldmine, thanks for the info. As I am also working on the FM do you know were i can find some reliable data on the plane flight carachteristic, TAS at different altitudes, rates of climb, turn rates etc. I couldn't find much on the net. Thanks again

Frankiek check your personal messages.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on September 03, 2009, 02:46:12 PM
Done thanks a million
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: GerritJ9 on September 03, 2009, 06:08:21 PM
I think I have the Profile Publications profile on the CR.32, would that be of any use?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: vtrelut on September 03, 2009, 09:22:16 PM
Dear Frankiek,

If my memory is correct, this new slot was implemented not by Charlie Chap, but by Chameleon at Aviaskins (same pack as the Hs-123), back in Dec 2008/Jan 2009. Also the FM was given by Chameleon. Both of them start by Cha... but...

There is a lot of work to do to have a decent 3D model. Good luck to all volunteers for this!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on September 04, 2009, 03:28:02 AM
Thanks fpr the correction and sorry for the mistake, I assign it by default to Charlie as I took it from Charlie's pack so I was assuming.... So sorry for the mistake and all my excuses and thanks to Chameleon 
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: jeanba on September 04, 2009, 03:40:15 AM
Thank you for your work, it will be very interesting once available
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on September 04, 2009, 03:46:10 AM
It will take some time is a lot of work
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Fusek on September 04, 2009, 09:56:27 AM
Do you have all the information you need?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on September 04, 2009, 10:04:36 AM
Thanks to the kind contribution of many people I got a lot of History and pictures, the basic data on the different versions of the planes, some data on TAS by altitude and time needed to reach different altitudes. Still in need more information on climb speeds, turn rates at different speeds, aerodynamic data, engine info. If you can provide some of the thing above I will be grateful
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Chewaca on September 04, 2009, 11:48:39 AM
Here we go

1000mts     2 min
2000mts     4 min
3000mts     6.1 min
4000mts     8.9 min
5000mts     12.1 min
6000mts     16.7 min
7000mts     24.5 min
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Chewaca on September 04, 2009, 12:12:35 PM
                        CR 32                CR 32 Bis1         CR32 Bis2          Cr32 ter       CR 32 Quater

Empty weight       1325 kg                 1400                1455.5            1490              1386
Max Weight          1850 Kg                 1970                1984              1915              1905

Velocity  Max          340  KM/h              330                 329               329                 338
   at 3000m            375                       350                 341               351                 356


Climbing             14´25" 6000 m        11´43" 5000    12´1" 5000       14´5" 6100       10    5000


Alt Max                   8800 m               8000 m             7800 m             7670 m           7550 m


Range                        780km               780 km             502 km                780 km         796 km


Min Vel                      115 km/h            115 km/h          115 km/h             105 km/h         108 km/h
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Ectoflyer on September 04, 2009, 01:18:16 PM
Thank you for your work,Frankiek! :)
It's a plane we really needed!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: woofiedog on September 06, 2009, 05:55:04 AM
Thank's to all for this bird.  ;D
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Birdman on September 06, 2009, 04:00:25 PM
Deutschmark has a 3D model for this bird and thus I think that a good FM would be useful now.
The FM can be used now with current 3D model and it would be ready when Deutschmark gets the 3D model into the game like P-26 is now.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: SAS~CirX on September 06, 2009, 05:04:35 PM
That is great news. Well nowish would be the time to get it into a beta. That would be good.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on September 07, 2009, 02:50:06 AM
That would be great however the last news that I had was that this mod was on standby due to other priorities.

If it is confirmed I will stop working on the 3d and concentrate on the FM and load outs.

I was thinking on two versions: the bis and the ter/quater in fact very similar.

the loadouts will be the 7.7 wing gunpods (for the bis) and possibility to carry bombs (up to 100 Kg)   
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Birdman on September 07, 2009, 03:12:54 AM
Here is a picture of the model Deutschmark has done:
(http://www.modelartbymarco.com/johnml/CR32.jpg)

I think we can get that bird in game sooner if we can give Deutschmark a good FM and new slot(s) with correct loadouts.

I remember that Deutschmark said somewhere that he together with AAA team will give the CR-32 a new FM and cockpit, and that needs a lot more time than to get P-26 in game. If we work with the FM and classes then they will have less work to do and perhaps they may release a beta with Deutschmark's external model, CR-42 cockpit and SAS FM+classes sooner than plan now. Perhaps finished class and FM work may change the priorities.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on September 07, 2009, 08:56:18 AM
If Deutschmark don't has time and he is ready to share what he did until now I am sure that there are people willing to take up the task. It would in any case save a substantial amount of work.

The current cockpit is not too bad and already with some restyling and tweaking would be a reasonable one (you can see much worst around)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: SAS~CirX on September 07, 2009, 09:11:44 AM
Cool. I agree.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: bingo on September 12, 2009, 05:21:16 PM
I installed cr 32 like he 219, he 219 work perfectly, but after install cr 32 the game crash at 60 % of downloading. someone can help? thanks.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on September 13, 2009, 04:01:30 AM
Chwck your entries in the air.ini and try again using the latest buttons available at this site 
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: bingo on September 13, 2009, 06:36:13 AM
Chwck your entries in the air.ini and try again using the latest buttons available at this site
I've AAA ui 1.0-1.1, if I install the latest buttons available at this site, this make conflict with UI?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on September 13, 2009, 06:45:39 AM
NO all the AC 3.8 aircraft are also inside this buttons, and you will have many more possibilities.
You will have to be careful with the sounds so go through the read me and the sound matrix that will help you sort out eventual sound problems :)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Dudok22 on September 28, 2009, 10:23:57 AM
good work!  :o
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on September 28, 2009, 10:54:04 AM
Darko, I managed to get some parts of the landing gear that were in your "Chirri" so thanks for your contribution.

Unfortunately do to the "franken" nature of this plane I still have problem with the skinning as parts of the tails, the engine and the gear are not mapped and don't fit in the skins available.

If there is any skinners willing to contribute just let me know 
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on September 28, 2009, 12:27:41 PM
Try to contact Zeppo, he's around and is a crack
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: flying_spud on October 02, 2009, 11:51:36 AM
I've popped this in and I really like it. Good job. Great for 1940 desert combat, and something I can dominate in my old gladdy at last! 
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on October 03, 2009, 02:49:51 AM
An update coming soon just a little delay to enjoy 409m
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on October 03, 2009, 01:01:42 PM
Hope to see this one soon. BTW will you adapt a default skin too?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on October 05, 2009, 01:49:51 AM
I had an unexpected problem when I was finalizing the new version. I I would like to be able to keep the old one (just new 3d) and then add a new slot as CR-32 quater with new load outs (bombs and bomblets) so that it can be used for the North and Eastern Africa theatres.  Nearly there. 
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on October 05, 2009, 07:14:47 AM
Looking forward to it, will be useful against Slovakia too
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on October 05, 2009, 11:07:06 PM
I have uploaded an improved version please feedback and let me know your impression as I am still working on the development of the FM and improve 3d further.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on October 06, 2009, 01:37:56 AM
Just tried. Loadout works great, will try to improve the 3d a bit.
Thanks!!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: cgagan on October 06, 2009, 02:20:36 AM
Flies fine! The defect above the tail is still visible; also, I think you still have the three blade propeller effect and there are some minor details in the cockpit (external view) which need to be fixed. Thank you for your effort!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on October 12, 2009, 12:27:40 AM
I have been working on the cockpit taking out the reflection sight and introducing the telescopic sight will post a screenie later today
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Alban on October 25, 2009, 07:50:27 PM
Hi, been fighting this baby over the Ebro map for weeks now. I've drawn a blank on any skins or even better templates. any help out there in SAS land.

Thanks
Alban
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on October 26, 2009, 12:18:11 AM
Being this a frankenplane (composed with pieces of different planes) there are problem with the making of skins. I don't have a template but only three version of the same skin that works (more or less) correctly and I used the best one I had as the default skin. 
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Alban on October 26, 2009, 10:30:58 AM
Sad news indeed i was wanting to use it as a standin for a Ki-10 fighter in a China camapign it's fairly close in performance and looks. But the camo schemes are different all white or sand and brown disruption type as opposed to the mottled scheme. Perhaps the Japanese can adopt a simmilar scheme for the occasion.
Thanks anyway for the trouble

All the best
Alban
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on October 27, 2009, 01:09:43 AM
I think that if you take the current default skin ( I am attaching the bmp format) work on it with Photoshop or Gimp, to make it a void skin so you have the desired base to work with. Just remember also to modify the additional skins for the wheel fairings so that they match the new skin. I am not a Skinner so other members may give some additional hint. 

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Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Alban on October 27, 2009, 09:59:10 PM
I think that if you take the current default skin ( I am attaching the bmp format) work on it with Photoshop or Gimp, to make it a void skin so you have the desired base to work with. Just remember also to modify the additional skins for the wheel fairings so that they match the new skin. I am not a Skinner so other members may give some additional hint.

Thanks dude I was going to compress the skin from the mod in PSP but this saves me the bother. Nice thought.and apreciated. Maybe the revese process might come into play, taking the markings out by mottling them over and making do with IJA adopting mottling for the present.

Thanks for the trouble taken apreciated
Alban
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on October 28, 2009, 01:00:16 AM
Well if you produce a void skin you could post it in our skin section so that others may be encouraged to work on it and increase the availability of skins for this plane.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Alban on October 28, 2009, 03:23:00 PM
Hi, I did produce two or three skins but they are of poor quality. Fine for AI enemy planes which is what  I was looking for (Stand-in's for Japanese KI-10's in fact). I'll give them a little work over the next few days and see if I can get a workable Void to post. It is a Franken plane so the picked up areas of the skin are a bit odd particularly in the bottom lower wing, which might make producing a good one difficult. Also I am spending far too much time installing mods and skinning and not enough playing the game. (That's down to the deluge of mods coming from you guys. Oooh! a 4 cannon Seafire I like that..., a map of the kokoda trail, I'll pop that in etc. With the end result I get a couple of fight on the QMB as a daily ration instead of playing and designing a campaign). Still I'll see what I can do, if i get it to work then a few Spanish civil war skins might be in order and some for WW2.

Cheers
Alban   

PS give my Spitfire post a visit up in the lounge, many great idas for a mod there.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on October 29, 2009, 01:56:48 AM
Well in fact it would be nice to have one skin for the northern African scenario and maybe one for the Eastern Africa 40-41 were the CR-32 played a role
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Alban on October 29, 2009, 12:57:18 PM
Well in fact it would be nice to have one skin for the northern African scenario and maybe one for the Eastern Africa 40-41 were the CR-32 played a role
Hi, PM me or put a pic up with those things and I'll see what I can do. I have a basic template of sorts working for the Cr-36. The Quality is not good because of the nature of the Mod being as it is a Franken plane. The graphics are all over the place but they are OK for enemy AI planes or for a player at a pinch. I'll pop up the results in a day or so with the template or PM you with the results if you put it some images for me to work with. Risking my reputation as a skinner as it will be.


All the best
Alban
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on October 30, 2009, 12:45:58 AM
Thanks Alban later today I will post here a few profiles that you can use as a source. I think that everybody is aware of the difficulty of skinning franken so don't bother too much. If it works fine if not then we will live with what we have. 
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Alban on October 30, 2009, 08:07:18 AM
Thanks Alban later today I will post here a few profiles that you can use as a source. I think that everybody is aware of the difficulty of skinning franken so don't bother too much. If it works fine if not then we will live with what we have.
Hi, no worries have got a few things in the way I told you about in the PM I sent. (Hope you received it.) But with a following wind I should be able to get you something in the next few days. Actually have a few skins but most are pre-the-template I got working. Not bad for rush jobs but mostly Japanese for using the chiri as a Ki 10. I gave you my E-mail in the PM send me one and I could get you a couple of skins nowish. Or wait a few days and I will post the stuff in the skins section.

Cheers
Alban
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on November 17, 2009, 01:09:51 AM
I have updated the download link and actually added a few goodies (telescopic sigth and new skins from Alban) as you can see from the picture. The new version consider also the presence of the CR-32 in Ultrapack so if you want you can keep both.  Please go carefully through the read-me before installing and enjoy.   
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Uzin on November 18, 2009, 05:17:27 AM
Weird skin again:
(http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww341/Uzin_2009/th_Cr32_leftwing.jpg) (http://s734.photobucket.com/albums/ww341/Uzin_2009/?action=view&current=Cr32_leftwing.jpg)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on November 18, 2009, 05:44:37 AM
Yes that is due to the Franken nature of the plane you just don't have enough place in the skin for the new pieces. Tail engine etc. So there is a little bit of overlap with the lower wing so if you want to skin the tail correctly you will see a problem in the lower wing and if you skin the lower wing correctly you will have a problem on the tail. I am not a skinner so I don't know how this problem can be solved.   
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Alban on November 19, 2009, 06:52:44 AM
Hi, I just noticed you folk popped some of my skins into the SAS Cr-32 download. Thanks very much, my first credit on a mod, i'm chuffed. Unfortunately for some low quality skins but never mind. I am trying to dip my toe into the first stages of modding but getting only 60% CTD's for my trouble. But my other modding things started like that. So I'll make like king Rab and the spider.

Cheers
Alban
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on November 19, 2009, 07:14:13 AM
Yes thanks Alban, I thought it was good to give user more choice and and escape from the SCW default skin.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Cracken on December 13, 2009, 01:45:09 AM
The new Cr-32 quater causes my PC to crash at 60%. Perhaps this bird has not been included in the latest buttons yet?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on December 13, 2009, 04:31:04 AM
Just installed to check it, and get same problem. Maybe is cause I have old Cr.32 installed? The one with two MG?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: ringlett on December 13, 2009, 04:49:23 AM
i instaled CR.32 and CR.32quater, both work very well, and moreover that both look awful, but it is true that I use different buttons. It produces friend. But under SAS version 3.2 also functioned
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Cracken on December 13, 2009, 05:20:19 AM
Neither SAS buttons 3.2 nor 3.3 work for me.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on December 13, 2009, 05:30:28 AM
I will like to restart both installs can someone post the link and instructions for two gunned Cr.32 ( Cr.32 Bis ) please?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Dreamk on December 13, 2009, 07:10:46 AM
Seems there is a need to settle a number of confusions about Fiat Cr32 variants:

The first Fiats sent to Spain in 1936 were the Cr32 version equipped with 2 x 12.7mm cowling MGs.
Of this same version, 76 were sold to Hungary and 16 to China.

At the end of 1936, appeared the Cr32bis, adding two extra 7.7mm machine guns, in blisters on top of the lower wing, to the 2x12.7mm cowling MGs, and provision for 220 lbs of bombs -the result was a total failure! as the addition of the wing MG drastically reduced the aircraft performances. (a common field modification was to discard the 7.7 mm armament)
238 were built for the Regia Aeronautica (quite a large but unknown precisely number serving in the ranks of Aviazione Legionaria), 45 for Austria (some sources add a further 45-52 to Hungary - dubious - seems there is a confusion with Hispano produced Cr32 quater that were exported to Hungary during wwII)

The Cr32 ter was a version exclusively used in Spain (103 aircraft built), with suppression of the wing MGs introduced on the Cr32bis, an improved engine, gunsight and upgraded instrumentation and strengthened and revised undercarriage.

The Cr32quater was a revised Cr32ter with reduced weight and radio added. 105 took part to teh Spanish Civil war in the ranks of the Aviazione Legionaria and a 27 with the Aviacion Nacional. It was the definitive model produced for the Italian air force. 10 were also sold to Venezuela and 4 to Paraguay (these last served in war with Bolivia). Maximum speed of 221 mph at 9,845 ft.

Starting form the end of the SCW and till 1944, Hispano aviation in Sevilla continued to produce Cr32 quater (100 plane sinlucing 31 transformed in two-seaters for training)

And all this means that.... the mod "cr32 quater" is not a Cr32quater but a "Cr32bis"  ::) and has to include a very deteriorated FM :(.......
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Cracken on December 13, 2009, 07:38:42 AM
THX for clarifying, pal. However, I would appreciate more to be able to download buttons which would enable me to fly the latest CR-32 in the first post, no matter what it is called.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on December 13, 2009, 11:21:13 AM
Hope Frankiek can provide downloads and instrucitons for Cr.32 ( two Mg version too )
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: SAS~CirX on December 13, 2009, 01:07:51 PM
THX for clarifying, pal. However, I would appreciate more to be able to download buttons which would enable me to fly the latest CR-32 in the first post, no matter what it is called.

I have just flown this plane with our latest buttons, and it worked fine. IF you are having a 60%, it is not because it is not in buttons.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Cracken on December 13, 2009, 02:44:17 PM
Ah, solved! The case was "drop the folder" in the first thread - so I dropped "CR_32" folder to MODS - but it is the subfolders that should be in "MODS" instead - "Air_CR-32quater" and "CR-32quater" in the folder instead... It works fine now!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on December 13, 2009, 03:11:03 PM
Dreamk, the Cr-32 posted is in fact a quater. The quater since inception had the capability to carry bombs and in fact was used in the ground attack/ground support role in Africa in WWII. For the time being this version is still using the "old" FM that is included in all the SAS buttons so the 60% crash must be originated by a different mod. I am working at a revised FM (Fixed pitch propeller, Trim on the elevators only, engine with a tendency to overheat and a little bit faster than the current one). So you will hear some news in the near future       
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Cracken on December 13, 2009, 11:22:48 PM
Yeah, I wrote about it in my previous post - it was due to the instructions - me thinks it should be "drop the folders" - "Air_CR-32quater" and "CR-32quater" in your MODS folder. One can think it should be just "CR_32" when it is "drop the folder". No issue related to buttons. (But of course, I had thought it was the buttons which usually cause the game to crash when you do not have the latest.)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on December 13, 2009, 11:57:34 PM
the Air_Cr-32quater is the one to be dropped in the mod folder. The folder named CR-32quater is the skin folder (no influence on the mod behaviour) and naturally you will have to drop it in on the PaintSchemes\Skins folder   
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: rickster on December 15, 2009, 01:52:43 AM
I already have the CR32 installed with UP 1.8,is this a separate aircraft with it's own slot?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on December 16, 2009, 12:35:27 AM
Yes it is
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: rickster on December 16, 2009, 01:57:20 AM
Thanks,Frankiek.Looking forward to flying this.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: jeanba on December 16, 2009, 03:41:48 AM
I suppose the FM is the same as the CR42 ?
If yes, is there a plan to improve it ?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on December 16, 2009, 05:19:11 AM
The current FM is derived from the Cr-42 but is not exactly the same. As written above I am working at a revised FM. I am still facing some problem (as the original engine did) and hope to be able to post it soon. 
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: jeanba on December 16, 2009, 08:27:02 AM
Thank's Frankiek
I reread the all threads and this is very interesting
Good luck
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on December 16, 2009, 09:17:10 AM
Frankiek noticed when the autopilot fly Straight It never fly really straight, it always fly a bit inclined to the right with the rudder not centered. Possible to correct it?
Cr.42 suffer from same problem
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on December 17, 2009, 07:24:22 AM
I know that there are some shortcomings in the current FM (largely borrowed from the CR-42). For this reason I decided to work at a completely new FM. As mentioned in the post above and I hope that in the coming week I will be able to post it. I am naturally checking on the trimming of the plane, but please be aware that in the game if you set a ground rudder trim this will be visualized as a rudder movement (not as a tab) the same thing for elevators and ailerons. These are small imperfections of the current game engine.   
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: PA_Asís on January 27, 2010, 02:15:26 PM
May I Help you..... 8)

This is a 3dMax CR-32.

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

PA_Asís http://patrulla-azul.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1062 (http://patrulla-azul.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1062)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: alge_1 on January 27, 2010, 02:47:01 PM
May I Help you..... 8)

This is a 3dMax CR-32.

PA_Asís http://patrulla-azul.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1062 (http://patrulla-azul.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1062)

Joder Asís...  ¿El modelo 3D es tuyo? Está tremendo!!
Como consigas exportar ese modelo al IL2 ya solo nos faltaría el He-51 para tener los cazas más importantes de la GC... (sin contar el modelo 3D del Mosca tipo 10, que ya está hecho pero aún no ha sido liberado).

Un saludo.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: PA_Asís on January 27, 2010, 02:55:01 PM
Pues en ello estoy alge_1 lo que ocurre es que es más complicado de lo que parece, me refiero a exportarlo al Il2, el modelado, dentro de lo que cabe, es alcanzable... En fin voy a seguir con ello a ver si a alguien le interesa y entre todos tenemos una SCW/ GCE como corresponde. Si fuera menester modelo un He- 51, ya puestos...
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: alge_1 on January 27, 2010, 03:07:56 PM
Pues en ello estoy alge_1 lo que ocurre es que es más complicado de lo que parece, me refiero a exportarlo al Il2, el modelado, dentro de lo que cabe, es alcanzable... En fin voy a seguir con ello a ver si a alguien le interesa y entre todos tenemos una SCW/ GCE como corresponde. Si fuera menester modelo un He- 51, ya puestos...

Ya me imagino... si fuese facil exportar modelos 3D supongo que no existirían los frankenplanes...

Mucho ánimo!! y si te faltara algo de documentación no dudes en pedirla.

Un saludo.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on January 28, 2010, 04:34:05 AM
I know that there a few 3d modles of the CR-32 out there (3dmax, Gmax etc)  the problem being inability to export to Il-2 format need some help from "experten"   
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on March 26, 2010, 04:26:29 AM
If anyone is interested in the Fiat Cr.32 and can import planes to the game, please contact DM at AAA.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Riptide_One on May 08, 2010, 02:24:13 AM
I recently installed UP 2.1 and subsequently installed the CR-32 Quater. I followed the instructions, but I can't get this plane to show up in the FMB selection. Does anyone have any suggestions on how this can be fixed?

Cheers,

Riptide
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: cuccos19 on June 10, 2010, 10:20:45 AM
Maybe a stupid question: Had the Cr.32 inflight variable propeller pitch?

Same on me, we Hungarians flew this birdie with success anyway, I don't know much about her.

If someone have a detailed cutaway drawing, flight/operational manual - Hungarian would be heaven! - I would appreciate that! :)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Hunter on June 18, 2010, 08:52:42 AM
Had the Cr.32 some skins ?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Gatrasz on June 18, 2010, 10:20:54 AM
Hi Hunter, you can find a few skins on M4T, inside some Spanish Civil War campaigns...  ;)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on June 21, 2010, 03:37:02 AM
Maybe a stupid question: Had the Cr.32 inflight variable propeller pitch?

Same on me, we Hungarians flew this birdie with success anyway, I don't know much about her.

If someone have a detailed cutaway drawing, flight/operational manual - Hungarian would be heaven! - I would appreciate that! :)

The C-32 had a propeller pitch that could be adjusted on the ground before starting the engine, but once in flight it was like a fixed pitch. I tried to work out this in a new FM but without great success.   
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: cuccos19 on July 02, 2010, 01:10:18 PM
But which position did they set? I mean how did they know what will be flight situation, engine settings in flight? Or what was the consideration of the settings?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Slow on July 09, 2010, 02:16:48 AM
PM me if you're interested in some small 3d help.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: caldrail on July 09, 2010, 02:42:23 AM
But which position did they set? I mean how did they know what will be flight situation, engine settings in flight? Or what was the consideration of the settings?

This was more of a dark art than applied science. Ground adjustable propellors weren't unusual just before the second world war and the aim was to achieve the best compromise in flight.  If the pitch was fine, you got better acceleration, if the pitch was coarse, you got better speed. It's a little more involved than that I guess, but think of it like a car gearbox where you set out on a journey without a gear lever. Do you drive away in 1st, or 2nd, or 3rd?...
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on July 09, 2010, 12:49:17 PM
That should give you something.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/2-13.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/1-13.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/3-7.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/4-5.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/5-5.jpg)

What do you say, will you do it? Lots of people like this plane, SCW, Hungary, Italy, very very useful.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Batbomb on July 10, 2010, 09:44:30 AM
WILL SOMEONE EVER COLSE THE F***** HOLES???????? They make flying the Cr32 in external like hell...
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Berserker on July 10, 2010, 01:21:50 PM
Without doubt, this is the  ugliest "frankenplane" ever made  :-X
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Slow on July 10, 2010, 01:48:19 PM
This was more of a dark art than applied science. Ground adjustable propellors weren't unusual just before the second world war and the aim was to achieve the best compromise in flight.  If the pitch was fine, you got better acceleration, if the pitch was coarse, you got better speed. It's a little more involved than that I guess, but think of it like a car gearbox where you set out on a journey without a gear lever. Do you drive away in 1st, or 2nd, or 3rd?...

2,5 =P
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Batbomb on July 11, 2010, 05:05:39 AM
Yes for shure. But its also one of the oldest frankenplanes... I hate to fly it.... Hopefully DM will import his 32 soon...
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on July 11, 2010, 06:38:19 AM
Let's see how Slow made his magic!!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: gianluca on July 21, 2010, 04:50:23 AM
hi guys, is there a way to let this bird show as a stationary aircraft?
it would be nice to have some of them populating an airfield in Andalucia or Hebro or Cartagena map....
thks a lot u all and best regards!
gianluca

PS: added the (proper?) lines in "stationary.ini" but to no avail....
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: andrey65 on July 24, 2010, 02:01:32 AM
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?p=59514#post59514 (http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?p=59514#post59514)

(http://s42.radikal.ru/i095/1007/5e/79bad992247a.jpg)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: SAS~Skipper on July 24, 2010, 03:11:51 AM
Yes, Oleg Molva can!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Batbomb on July 24, 2010, 07:50:27 AM
Wow... :D This is Awesome... a real 32... Thats soooo bluddy needet for SCW
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: SAS~Poltava on July 24, 2010, 12:24:03 PM
SUPER! That's GREAT work!!!  :D
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: alge_1 on July 26, 2010, 07:28:33 AM
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?p=59514#post59514 (http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?p=59514#post59514)

(http://s42.radikal.ru/i095/1007/5e/79bad992247a.jpg)

OMG!!

New pics:

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: matisyasiu on July 26, 2010, 07:57:28 AM
Now that's a beauty!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Fusek on July 26, 2010, 08:26:39 AM
I really dig the sharp nose.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: cgagan on July 26, 2010, 08:31:28 AM
Can't wait (enough...)!!!!  8) ???
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Berserker on July 26, 2010, 10:31:46 AM
What a beauty  :o :o :o

For me it is completely ready to release  ;D ;D ;D, I cant wait    :P



Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: PA_Asís on July 26, 2010, 12:53:28 PM
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

Please God, Please God

¡¡¡We cant wait!!!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: SAS~Poltava on July 26, 2010, 01:03:19 PM
Wonderful, wonderful news!!!  ;D
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on July 26, 2010, 01:51:10 PM
OOOOOH MAN!!

I'm out for two days and when I'm back I see a Cr-32 looking like a candidate for a inminent release. Wondering If anyone know something about status, cockpit or something he can share here. I have no idea of Russian.
BTW Can you see how excited are getting with this plane? Spanish guys NEED it!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: agracier on July 27, 2010, 04:07:57 AM
There can never be enough biplanes for Il-2 ... looking forward to the release ...
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: RealDarko on July 27, 2010, 04:42:23 AM
Anyone know the version? IIRC all varians but the "Bis" one are armed with 2MG on the nose, but Is a bit confusing.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: M0SCA on July 28, 2010, 04:23:24 PM
willing to be ready soon for  fighting ratas  :o
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: David603 on July 28, 2010, 07:11:35 PM
Fantastic  ;D

We just got a He-51 and now it looks like we will soon be getting a proper CR-32 as well :D

Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: jeanba on August 16, 2010, 12:52:09 PM
great !!!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: dietz on August 17, 2010, 09:32:56 AM
 ;DThis new one is looking good...
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: <Gunny> on August 19, 2010, 08:13:10 PM
Hi All,
I just ran into a problem. I was playing a map I made that uses Zuti rearm and refuel.
In order for it to work you must set your chocks.
I have a key assigned for that and it works with all planes but this one.
Any ideas???
This is a fun good plane   - Thank you
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: cuccos19 on August 27, 2010, 04:04:53 PM
Yeah! Hungary needs this birdie also for sure!!!  8)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: gianluca on September 21, 2010, 03:53:18 AM
no news from aviaskin?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: SAS~Poltava on September 21, 2010, 08:19:40 AM
I think that's the correct attitude: to enjoy all the goodies that we actually have, and eventually we will have a pleasant surprise - and then another one, and then one etc. There is a lot of good things to come, and we can patiently wait.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: gianluca on November 23, 2010, 09:35:05 AM
having these two issues with this aircraft; am I the only?
first, when set to take off this AC (as AI) tends to deviate a good 30° from the take off path, of course going easily into hangers or trees....
second, when hit (supposedly in the cockpit or windscreen) the PC screen itself becomes black and then only the external view is available...
tried a good number, stock and mod, IL-2 planes, but these issues I never met!
any tipp welcome!
Gianluca
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Flying H on November 23, 2010, 03:33:30 PM
When the screen goes black you´re dead meat!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Dark Apostle on November 24, 2010, 03:30:14 AM
having these two issues with this aircraft; am I the only?
first, when set to take off this AC (as AI) tends to deviate a good 30° from the take off path, of course going easily into hangers or trees....
second, when hit (supposedly in the cockpit or windscreen) the PC screen itself becomes black and then only the external view is available...
tried a good number, stock and mod, IL-2 planes, but these issues I never met!
any tipp welcome!
Gianluca

The deviation is possibly engine torque, and as Flying said, the black screen means your pilot is dead.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: dietz on November 24, 2010, 09:28:39 AM
Any news on the revised modell shown sometime ago mid-way through this thread or is it dead?
 
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: gianluca on November 24, 2010, 10:04:25 AM
Hi Dark!
ok deviation could be due to torque effect but then why with CR 32 only?
other planes in game have a huge torque effect, as the 109 to make an example, but none acts like this when selected to fly as AI.....
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: bigans on November 26, 2010, 01:05:23 PM
TY TY TY
just in time for building an historical campaign on E.A.A.W. map!

Bye
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: savorman on February 09, 2011, 12:36:37 PM
This is one sweet plane, for a bi-plane.  They did pretty well in WWII, very maneuverable. I recognized them from Roald Dahl's book Going Solo. He fought for the British in WWII and fought against some Italian CR-32's in Greece. They tore his squadron apart. Thanks for the mod!


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Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: stranger on March 04, 2011, 03:50:51 PM
This is one sweet plane, for a bi-plane.  They did pretty well in WWII, very maneuverable. I recognized them from Roald Dahl's book Going Solo. He fought for the British in WWII and fought against some Italian CR-32's in Greece. They tore his squadron apart. Thanks for the mod!


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i feel the urge to read that book asap.
shamelessy bumping this thread
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Badmuthafunker on March 27, 2011, 08:03:49 AM
Weird, I know, but this doesn't show in my QMB menu. v4.101 (ModAct). All entries in STD are present and correct.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: CzechTexan on September 27, 2011, 03:50:15 PM
having these two issues with this aircraft; am I the only?
first, when set to take off this AC (as AI) tends to deviate a good 30° from the take off path, of course going easily into hangers or trees....
second, when hit (supposedly in the cockpit or windscreen) the PC screen itself becomes black and then only the external view is available...
tried a good number, stock and mod, IL-2 planes, but these issues I never met!
any tipp welcome!
Gianluca

The deviation is possibly engine torque, and as Flying said, the black screen means your pilot is dead.
I also have the same problem with the plane (including A/I planes) rotating on the runway before takeoff.
I guess this mod still needs some work so I'm being patient like all others here.  For right now it's useless for having it takeoff...but the remedy is to do airstarts.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: MR_G on October 10, 2011, 06:52:25 PM
Is this a FM problem? I can get this AC off the ground without a problem, but the AI's seem to want to die. I get this same problem with the Beta "Judy" (D4Y2)

Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Dreamk on October 11, 2011, 03:58:04 AM
The rotating phenomena on the runway at teh beginning of takeoff is not limited to this plane but is a classical problem of mods. It is due to a defect in the rotation, alignement and position of the pivots of the wheel meshes (gearR1 gearL1) and of the hook _clipgear. Nothing to do with the FM.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: MR_G on October 11, 2011, 07:53:46 AM
These are the only two "mod" aircraft that I have, that do this. All the rest of them take off just like the "stock" AC. Once building up a little speed, they shoot off at a 45 degree angle to the right.

Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Dreamk on October 11, 2011, 08:22:21 AM
Yes. it's a bug that is easily diagnosed and corrected when one builds a new mod plane. 
Another cause for the phenomena is of course pushing the throttle too fast, instead of waiting to take some running speed before increase progressively the throttle
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Scharnhorst1943 on November 03, 2011, 09:50:23 PM
so ... what ever happened to that pretty new model that was being worked on at aviaskins? The thing looked like it was done visually ... and that was AGES ago. Has there been any word?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: gianluca on November 20, 2011, 05:11:29 AM
according to Epizikl (mail exchange) work is still goin on! be patient!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: HectorD72 on March 12, 2012, 03:23:22 AM
Does anybody have any idea what is the status of the new model that was supposed to come quite a lot of time ago.
I have found a large collection of skins for what i suppose it is the new model - since they don't fit the old one - but where is the model?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: saab ja26 on March 18, 2012, 03:55:02 PM
I was wondering this as well. Hope the project is still alive!  :D
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: herbarnold99 on March 24, 2012, 10:49:59 AM
Works great in 4.09m and UP 2.0!  Thanks a million for putting this out, the skies over Zaragoza are a thrill again!

ps - two small bugs to report; (1) the front radiator is covered by camo, and (2) no ordnance shows up for me

Minor stuff, really a great mod and so happy to have a really good-looking CR.32 in the game!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: stanislao on March 24, 2012, 11:02:55 AM
 

???  ???  ???   :( I hate having to download unknown programs enormously for a simple download plus in a language I do not know and that is incomprehensible in the translation of google ....
 I know that I will make less of Cr32!
   >:(

Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: saab ja26 on March 24, 2012, 11:35:05 AM
Many thanks for this! Downloaded like a charm. Really awesome to have a better CR32!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: SAS~Poltava on March 24, 2012, 11:57:22 AM
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, YESSSS! THANKS Aviaskins!

The old franken CR.32 was beginning to show its age. Time to update some SCW campaigns  ;)

The old skins doesn't work - which of course is quite expected. I hope our talented skinners will move into action soon! This beauty is worth it!!!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Batbomb on March 24, 2012, 12:08:24 PM
The 3d model is so great! OMG I LOVE IT! Thankssssssssss. Great for some campaign I have begun as well.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: vpmedia on March 24, 2012, 12:16:23 PM
the black air intake on the nose looks like this:
(http://www.repulomuzeum.hu/ARCHFOTO/2VH/2VH_CR-32.jpg)

I tried it in DBW 1.71 but got some annoying gunsight bug + I cant get italian markings, otherwise nice work.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Loku on March 24, 2012, 12:27:19 PM
I got errors from wrong/missing weapon hooks,bombs dont show up in menu,when try to spawn on airfield game hangs.

Hook: _ExternalBomb01 not found
com.maddox.il2.engine.ActorException: Hook: _ExternalBomb01 not found           

Hook: _ExternalBomb02 not found
com.maddox.il2.engine.ActorException: Hook: _ExternalBomb02 not found

Hook: _BOMBCASSETTE01 not found
com.maddox.il2.engine.ActorException: Hook: _BOMBCASSETTE01 not found

INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'RackL_D0'
INTERNAL ERROR: HierMesh: Can't find chunk 'RackR_D0'

I have checked the meshes and there is no such hooks on them,so its obvious maker mistake.Sorry to say but its another mod released to soon without propper beta testing.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Gumpy on March 24, 2012, 12:37:03 PM
I'd kinda like a link to the aviaskins thread cause,I can't find any mention of it.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Birdman on March 24, 2012, 12:46:56 PM
I expect there is no thread at Aviaskins to link to since this new 3D model was just a leaked WIP version. Thus, don't expect it to be finished.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Loku on March 24, 2012, 12:59:56 PM
As i expected its unfinished wip,someone jus leaked it,still need a lot to be done.I see link is now down,good,lets give Avia guys time ot finish the job.Maybe it will find a way into official 4.12.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: stanislao on March 25, 2012, 06:05:02 AM
 
 :-[   Dear SAS ~ crazyflak, the question is not ingratitude .. I am deeply and viscerally very grateful to all those who are engaged in all these years to share the fruits of their hobbies just for the pleasure of giving all us  the pleasure of flying with new airplanes  or skillfully painted in fantastic scenarios of war .. my outburst was caused by the frustration of not being able to download the mod of the Cr32 .. waiting this plane for so long, and my inability to correctly translate the text of download site .. everything here, reading the following posts  I realized that I will have to wait for a perfect  flight model, it will be do  with much more patience, I promise!   :-X

Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Dreamk on March 25, 2012, 11:58:25 AM
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,24484.msg249467.html#msg249467
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Riptide_One on April 14, 2012, 08:39:19 AM
I seems to me there is something wrong with the link. I've tried downloading this mod four times and each time I got a corrupted file.

Cheers,

Riptide
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: 361st_Hoss on April 14, 2012, 02:42:49 PM
Did he just say for you DBW 1.8 users?..............................  Well who are they and why are they being stingy?...........................


Must mean it's close or he doesn't want to go back and re-edit his post.

Link works fine with Free Download Manager...............
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Riptide_One on April 14, 2012, 06:09:27 PM
Beowolf,

I just tried it again and this time, the link worked :).

Cheers,

Riptide
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: 361st_Hoss on April 14, 2012, 06:29:34 PM
Yep, the download works, but I still get the holes in the tail of the airplane.............. major reason why I leave it out of campaigns I build... I can't stand to look at it.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Gubi on April 14, 2012, 08:32:37 PM
Yeah...

Beo...there's a whole sh.tload of things I can't stand to look at, hear or see.

Thanx for the contribution...dammit.  I'm as old as the hills too...brought some learning with me also...still need to learn more...

Cheers
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: DONAGHY on April 15, 2012, 06:56:08 AM
can please any one  show or send me the plane or the correct link i have the tenplate i just wana make it some skins  lol :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Barkhorn on April 15, 2012, 12:05:33 PM
can please any one  show or send me the plane or the correct link i have the tenplate i just wana make it some skins  lol :'( :'( :'( :'(

+1

Pointless to download skins and templates if we can't download the plane....
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: 361st_Hoss on April 15, 2012, 12:38:05 PM
I just downloaded it again this second using"Free Download Manager" the one Cirx suggested we use for the big files on here.

http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/download.htm
I use it as a plug in for Mozilla, it pops up automatically when I push download.  Imagine you can do the same for Explorer.

Template
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?t=1914

And if you're talking about the new plane, it's not been released yet, but you're aware of that I'm sure.  But here is the link to the template nonetheless. Enjoy!......... ;)

Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: DONAGHY on April 15, 2012, 12:43:59 PM
thanks beo s don
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: David Prosser on April 16, 2012, 04:35:35 AM
Holy barrel roll Batman! Its a Quater!  I'll give this one a spin in DBW, and 410 Modact. If DreamKs upcoming one is the fighter, this would make an excellent complement to it.

cheers

David Prosser
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: agracier on April 16, 2012, 04:58:55 AM
Holy barrel roll Batman! Its a Quater!  I'll give this one a spin in DBW, and 410 Modact. If DreamKs upcoming one is the fighter, this would make an excellent complement to it.

Those two give conflicts with each other when installed together. It's either one or the other or a whole lot of trouble when trying to fly one ...
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: David Prosser on April 16, 2012, 05:32:22 AM


Those two give conflicts


Oh well, It's better looking than the stock one. I landed it in one piece. My ground crew hate me though. Too many bounces. They'll probably have to re rig it. The undercarriage must be very robust.

cheers

David Prosser
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: zack on April 17, 2012, 05:56:32 AM
When we can expect updated and ready version of CR - 32?
It is really beautiful and needed plane.
Thanks.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Gumpy on April 18, 2012, 12:53:40 AM
When we can expect updated and ready version of CR - 32?
It is really beautiful and needed plane.
Thanks.
I think you need to ask Dreamk that question.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Panzerpreussen on May 21, 2012, 09:24:16 PM
Gentlemen ..

Any news on the new Quater? I need it urgently to my IL-2, skins for the CR-32 are always wrong, I have skins for Austria that I can use for this plane ...
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: FANATIC MODDER on June 01, 2012, 11:16:34 AM
I feel the same how many years are going to pass to get a proper CR.32 I wonder
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Epervier on June 01, 2012, 11:19:08 AM
The time it will ... not a minute more!  ::)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: David Prosser on June 11, 2012, 05:02:03 AM
Hi, Frankiek. It's being used in the Santander campaign I'm working on. It should be on M4T within a month.

cheers

David Prosser
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Gumpy on June 19, 2012, 03:31:03 PM
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/Bingo1957/2905201223-14-43.jpg)Proper version?
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: juanmalapuente on June 19, 2012, 05:02:22 PM
This is beauty.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: PA_Asís on June 19, 2012, 05:21:39 PM

 :D :D :D
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img594/9655/il2fb2011052919292818.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img690/6096/il2fb2011052919310071.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img840/2089/il2fb2011052921330553.jpg)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: juanmalapuente on June 19, 2012, 05:48:57 PM
Si García Morato levantase la cabeza...Wonderful skins and pics!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Metatron on June 19, 2012, 08:53:55 PM
What a plane. Pure Italian design.
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Gaston on June 20, 2012, 06:42:25 AM
Hope to see this one available soon !
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: gianluca on June 20, 2012, 09:31:32 AM
Big respect for what Frankiek has made but this is the one, with a proper cockpit of course, I am waiting since 2 years.....
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Frankiek on June 20, 2012, 01:05:14 PM
Thank you gianluca but this 3d is the real thing.  Do to excess work and a number of problems I had to stay away from il-2 for a long long time but this model is pulling me back.
really thank to all that worked on it
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: SAS~Poltava on June 20, 2012, 01:33:21 PM
Wonderful that we soon will have a proper CR.32. No SCW without the "Chirri".
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Knochenlutscher on June 21, 2012, 10:36:11 AM
Wow, what a beauty, Thanks to all involved,
please don't give up the good work
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: gianluca on June 22, 2012, 10:25:37 AM
Do to excess work and a number of problems I had to stay away from il-2 for a long long time but this model is pulling me back.

Really glad to hear this Frankiek!

Best regards,

Gianluca
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: flightdok74 on July 24, 2012, 11:20:26 AM
Download on first page does not work..... :(.....could someone post a working link to this beauty......... ;)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: flightdok74 on July 24, 2012, 11:21:44 AM
Nevermind......must have been down just monetarily.....got it now.......thanks........ ;)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Epervier on July 24, 2012, 11:22:52 AM
I think you mean the other version of the CR-32!
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,26353.0.html
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: flightdok74 on July 24, 2012, 01:58:37 PM
Yes, thats the one I was looking for.....thankyou........ ;)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: HotelAlpha on November 26, 2012, 06:18:29 PM
CHIRRI!
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: GUZKNIFE on July 13, 2013, 06:17:04 AM
Works in 4.12 SAS ModAct 5.11  :)
Title: Re: CR-32
Post by: Mandra on July 22, 2013, 12:01:14 PM
Hiiii All….

I write in this forum, for the moders of the Fiat CR-32 “Chirri”.

In the original manual of this aircraft, I see two bugs compared with the aircraft in Ultrapack/Ultraspain mod:

•   First:  The correct anmunition load for 7,7 is 750 rounds per gun.
•   Second:  The real aircraft can armed two 7,7 or two 12,70. In sims only 7,7 is load. That’s  very important in doghfight with I-15 and I-16, in Spanish Civil War (UltraSpain).

And one cuestion: in Ultrapack/Ultraspain mod,  I can load bombs, and bomblets in arming screen but in game has no effect,  I don’t see it (under plane wings), I cant launch it??

Thanks for you Help, Regards from Spainnn ;-)))

Mandra.