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Battlefield - Airborne - Tactical (BAT) => BAT Lounge => Topic started by: cbradbury on June 02, 2021, 06:19:26 AM

Title: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: cbradbury on June 02, 2021, 06:19:26 AM
So you always thought that you were the worst carrier pilot ever? I have news for you – you’re not – I am. Whenever I try a landing I always end up as bunch of spare parts burning on the deck – if I hit the deck at all.

Recently I tried mace’s LSO feature which is included BAT JTW. What a difference – so I decided to add it to WAW. Unbelievable! I was only testing, and managed to land an Albacore first time! All right, I nearly overshot – just catching the very last cable, but what an improvement to burning spare parts or a swim.

It occurred to me that there may be pilots almost as bad as myself who would benefit, so here it is:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/803ary1ea756ivn/Carrier_LSO_for_BAT.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/803ary1ea756ivn/Carrier_LSO_for_BAT.7z/file)

I did not add the runway landing features, only the carrier LSO (If I can land a WW2 plane on an airfield without assistance, so can you). Full instructions, and a copy of mace’s manual are included (page 1 explains the feature details and setup).
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: urmel on June 02, 2021, 06:25:32 AM
Great addition! Many thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: SAS~vampire_pilot on June 02, 2021, 01:00:09 PM
Sounds like a great addition
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: Griffon_301 on June 02, 2021, 01:22:26 PM
It really is! Have it in my modded game since it came out...
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: jg1234 on June 02, 2021, 01:45:09 PM
Thank You!!!!!!!
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: cbradbury on June 03, 2021, 05:13:42 AM
If you also want to add the LSO to TGA (I just have), the procedure should be obvious from my download.
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: Flieger on June 03, 2021, 06:45:22 AM
Thank you cbradbury. That was my greatest wish. I posted a few weeks ago. Feel like Christmas. Thank you, thank you
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: Griffon_301 on June 05, 2021, 01:58:48 PM
Don't rely too heavy on it... It's a good help in the last few seconds before touchdown, bit for the approach, learn the pattern, learn the power settings and learn to be gentle on the stick and rudder...
There is a good original RN training film about carrier flying and landing on YT showing how it should and how it should not be done, using Corsairs as example...
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: Griffon_301 on June 05, 2021, 02:03:37 PM
For the record...I am using a curved approach out of a rather tight pattern.... If you go straight in like on a normal landing using a runway this LSO is more helpful but you will loose sight of the deck earlier...
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: Flieger on June 22, 2021, 02:11:39 PM
Today I wanted to install the LSO. I was hoping that it would be the classic man on deck, but I read the description too late. Then I noticed it wasn't the little man with the two flags but an ad on the screen. A SAS member told me earlier that it existed. I thought now someone has modded the little man. Bang ... a dream. :( But definitely a good thing :)
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: DESPEREAUX on June 24, 2021, 09:12:22 AM
Cool! Thank you! :)
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: tomoose on June 24, 2021, 03:25:46 PM
Flieger;
I believe the LSO figure your SAS member was referring to is one that is eye-candy only.  Certain carriers have an LSO figure waving his paddles but that's all he does.  It is not related to an aircraft approach but simply eye-candy/immersion.
Tomoose
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: Flieger on June 25, 2021, 01:49:36 PM
Tomoose. You're right. A little Kaspar. It is pointless but it creates a little atmosphere. Waited a long time for the deck crew. Of course the game is about airplanes and they are great. But I miss the people. The earth, especially the airfields, are practically deserted, like after an epidemic. A ghost earth. Now I spend a lot of time following the hundreds of wonderful little actions that take place on the ground. I love her. I follow the cars, watch the flares. Made very lovingly. I would like to thank all the modders who think up and install these things so lovingly. It's the salt in the soup.
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: btasm on July 07, 2021, 06:10:08 AM
I'm sure I am missing something obvious here, but how is the LSO for WAW implemented in game? I've downloaded the mod, then added the LSO folder to BATMODS, made the changes to the .ini and properties, then activated the mod through JSGME. Yet, nothing happens when approaching a carrier.

Is there another step to employ?

Thanks for any assistance.
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: Griffon_301 on July 07, 2021, 06:18:23 AM
reply #7 at https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,64706.msg711129.html#msg711129 (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,64706.msg711129.html#msg711129)
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: WxTech on July 07, 2021, 11:16:04 AM
This LSO mod would seem to address the necessary elements for a graphical LSO figure to be implemented.

My first notion would be a texture containing the figure with all the required paddle positions, in an array. Code would select the relevant portion of the graphic by the X,Y coordinates of the image. Even a simple, static, 2-D image, without any animation, could be a useful first step. Of course, carriers would have to have implemented a new LSO object, so that it could be placed at the proper location on the fantail.
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: Griffon_301 on July 07, 2021, 12:09:44 PM
Sounds nice in theory but I doubt it would be useful at all because most of the times you would receive a wave off... You either fly the perfect approach or you get waved off... All WW2 Sims that featured a LSO had that problem ....this combined with the rather restricted POV of people without TrackIR would render a fully animated LSO a nice eycandy but not much more IMHO... Landing on a WW2 carrier in IL2 requires experience and practice and no virtual LSO would make that task easier IMHO....
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: Flieger on July 09, 2021, 05:41:48 AM
~solved~
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: tomoose on July 09, 2021, 07:01:50 AM
I'll mention this again for what it's worth...

For coop flying, what our little group has done is use the LSO Cam (a mod that puts the usual carrier camera back near the LSO spot).
The first guy shot down or to land back at the carrier, assumes the job of LSO via the LSO Cam and gives real-time feedback via comms to the rest of the group as they are on final.  So no visual aid but real-time audio on approach from the "LSO".

It's certainly not perfect (obviously we're not trained LSOs) but is good enough that the "live" LSO can advise on 'too high' or 'too low' and 'go around' etc.

Just tossin' it out there as an option.
cheers,
Tomoose
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: btasm on July 19, 2021, 05:47:23 AM
Where do you find the LSO object? I can't seem to locate it in FMB. Thanks.
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: cbradbury on July 19, 2021, 09:19:23 AM
Where do you find the LSO object? I can't seem to locate it in FMB. Thanks.

Silly question, but have you installed it from my download in the first post?
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: btasm on July 19, 2021, 01:23:09 PM
Yes. I certainly think so. As instructed, I placed the LSO folder in BAT mods, then enabled. I also made the changes to the respective .ini and properties lines.

Should there be an object in the FMB Objects drop down menu entitled LSO? If so, under what category? I don’t see one.
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: cbradbury on July 19, 2021, 01:50:32 PM
You will find the object in the 'stationary ships' sub menu. It is called 'landing assistance carriers'. Just place it anywhere in the mission map, make sure that it is set to the same colour as your aircraft, and you should be good to go.
Title: Re: landing signal officer for CV WAW
Post by: btasm on July 21, 2021, 05:18:46 AM
cbradbury:

Thanks. Found it. Works well. Good work.