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IL-2 Great Battles (aka "Battle of Stalingrad") => IL-2 Great Battles Tech Help => Topic started by: FedeM1974 on November 08, 2020, 06:08:40 PM

Title: Settings for Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Stick
Post by: FedeM1974 on November 08, 2020, 06:08:40 PM
Hi,

Does anyone has some settings for this stick to share?

Tks!
Title: Re: Settings for Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Stick
Post by: sniperton on November 09, 2020, 01:21:44 AM
What settings do you mean?
I use it with shaking set to 100%, FFB power 60%, pitch sensitivity 70%, aileron 50%.
As I have a dedicated rudder, I splitted the twist axis (via vJoy) and use it for differential braking.
Title: Re: Settings for Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Stick
Post by: FedeM1974 on November 09, 2020, 11:55:45 AM
Hi, tks
Mean mostly buttons functions.
For example on IL1 1946 i use buttons 3 and 4 for decrease and increase throttle.
And gas as elevator trim.

Tks
Title: Re: Settings for Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Stick
Post by: sniperton on November 09, 2020, 12:51:12 PM
The MSFFB2 has only 4 axes, 8 buttons, and a 4-way hat switch.

I guess you only have the MSFFB2, right? That is, no rudder, no HOTAS/throttle/button box, right?

Do you have head tracking? Or you use the hat switch for that purpose?

These questions are important to clarify before any advice could be given.
Title: Re: Settings for Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Stick
Post by: FedeM1974 on November 09, 2020, 01:13:40 PM
I use the hat switch. No track Ir.

Tks!
Title: Re: Settings for Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Stick
Post by: sniperton on November 09, 2020, 04:11:49 PM
In this case I recommend installing Joy2Key or Joystick Gremlin to multiply the effective number of your buttons.

You should sacrifice button #7 and #8 as modifiers. This way you can get 3 x 10 Buttons (including the hat switch).

The logic is that you press the trigger withouth modifiers = fire all weapons.
You press modifier#1 + trigger = fire only machine guns.
You press modifier#2 + trigger = fire only cannons.

It's up to you how you arrange these functions. In my experience the following functions are essential to have them on your stick:

pitch contol (1 axis)
aileron control (1 axis)
yaw control (1 axis)
throttle (1 axis or 2 keys)

Here you have your 4 axes covered. Must have:

RPM control (1 axis or 2 keys)
pitch trim (2 keys) [an axis doesn't work for all planes]
yaw trim (2 keys)
fire all board weapons (1 key)
drop bombs (1 key)
fire rockets (1 key)
flaps (2 keys)
break (1 key)
mixture control (1 axis or 2 keys)

Altogether 14 keys.

Optional (also can be set to keyboard, but good to have them close at hand):

aileron trim (2 keys) - if available
water radiators (2 keys) - if available
oil radiators (2 keys) - if available
supercharger control (1 key)
turbo control (2 keys)
boost control (1 key)
mission map (1 key)
mission objectives (1 key)
wide FOV/normal FOV/zoomed FOV (3 keys)
comms (1 key)
save track (1 key)

Altogether 17 keys.


Title: Re: Settings for Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Stick
Post by: FedeM1974 on November 09, 2020, 07:53:39 PM
Many thanks. Will try.
Just downloaded yesterday. Hat Switch worked weird.

Title: Re: Settings for Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Stick
Post by: FedeM1974 on November 10, 2020, 09:38:39 AM
Hi, Do you know how to fix the Force Feedback? When it’s working it’s like an earthquake. Even if I set the shaking at 70% for example. The game crash to desktop also if you change the % when playing.

Tks!
Title: Re: Settings for Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Stick
Post by: sniperton on November 10, 2020, 06:23:16 PM
MSFFB2 has some quirks. After all, it's a 20 years old hardware. Like an old vintage car. Deal with it. Reset, exit, restart.
Title: Re: Settings for Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Stick
Post by: FedeM1974 on November 10, 2020, 06:39:17 PM
Tks buddy! Sent you a pm.

If you can help i would really apreciate it.

No problem if not.

Regards!
Title: Re: Settings for Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Stick
Post by: [FAC]Ghost129er on November 10, 2020, 09:59:45 PM
Hi, Do you know how to fix the Force Feedback? When it’s working it’s like an earthquake. Even if I set the shaking at 70% for example. The game crash to desktop also if you change the % when playing.

Tks!

Force feedback is broken with many legacy joysticks. If you're running Win 10 you'll run into even note force feedback problems as I have so many related to FFB with my Saitek Cyborg Evo Force. This was fixable on Windows 7 by a registry delete but for some reason on Windows 10 windows keeps installing these registry files and fucking it up further.

Fix? Disable Force feedback. Don't like it? Buy a new joystick. Just saying. No sass or anything.
Title: Re: Settings for Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Stick
Post by: sniperton on November 15, 2020, 04:37:20 AM
Check PM, Federico, hope it helps.

As to your force feedback issue, the earthquake effect sounds strange for me. I've never had it in my setup (I'm on Win10 Pro).

But it's true that resetting FFB values while playing can lead to crashes, particularly if you're playing in fullscreen mode.

Try to set shaking lower, exit the game, restart the game, and test the results playing.

 
Title: Re: Settings for Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Stick
Post by: FedeM1974 on November 16, 2020, 04:26:45 PM
Tks buddy!!