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Title: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: Nero on April 18, 2020, 05:08:33 PM
FORGOTTEN AVIATORS
The eastern front 1914 1917

For avoid confusion and to not spam the forum with 10 threads with the same title, I decided to post all the Russian campaigns of that serie here, the link below comprehend the Imperial Russian navy campaign 1st part, 1914 15 in the caucasus theater, and the new Galician campaign of 1915, first part of the Russian army trilogy.
Only the Grigorovich campaign will stay of his own since is much bigger than these ones, and deserve a stand own thread I guess. With descriptions etc etc,

PART I: IMPERIAL RUSSIAN NAVY CAMPAIGN - THE PERSIAN FRONT
And
IMPERIAL RUSSIAN AIR FLEET CAMPAIGN, THE BATTLE FOR GALICIA, 1915 IN THE LINK BELOW:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/01amhmz47q9bvsl/Russiaww1.rar/file

NOTE: this campaigns are only based on historical events. It do not pretend to be 100% historical

EDIT: For those playing the Galician campaign a suggest: in the last 5 missions, you will fly the farman f30, it is a very diverse machine than the Maurice Farman 11 short horn you flied in the early missions, it is faster, and it s conceived as a fighter too, it go easily over 120 130 km h sometime, so don't be afraid to engage enemy aviatiks, ofc do it cautious, don't attack like a bull since their rear gunners have a big fire angle, also up and down, find a dead zone in their visual where they can't shoot and attack. But don't be scared to have a slower plane etc as if you was with the old pre war farman. The F30 is a pretty good pusher fighter ground attacker. Enough fast too.

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Title: Re: Forgotten aviators - Eastern front - Galicia 1915 (WIP)
Post by: Gubi on April 18, 2020, 05:49:04 PM
Outstanding.  Good luck with it.
Title: Re: Forgotten aviators - Eastern front - Galicia 1915 (WIP)
Post by: Nero on April 18, 2020, 07:15:46 PM
You' re welcome. The eastern front while is too over appreciated in stock Il2 and in waw section of bat, is totally underrated for the Ww1 campaigns. Like the Russian civil war in Europe and far east.
So I decided to create a aerie of campaigns both with the Russian navy and army, from central Asia to the Baltic and later also one or two Russian civil war white campaigns will come 1 in Europe and 1 in Mongolia or Siberia. Not the massive concentration of troops and machines we see in the western front campaigns but smaller groups like the one in the Caucasus with the Russian navy i did.
Title: Re: Forgotten aviators - Eastern front - Galicia 1915 (WIP)
Post by: SAS~Poltava on April 19, 2020, 12:39:21 AM
Looking really good! The Eastern Front was a very important part of WW1 and often forgotten. It is really great that someone is giving this part of the Great War a serious attention here in this wonderful flight sim of ours. Good luck with this Nero! 👍👍👍👍
Title: Re: Forgotten aviators - Eastern front - Galicia 1915 (WIP)
Post by: Alfie Noakes on April 19, 2020, 01:12:20 AM
+1

I love the more obscure theaters of combat

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Not the massive concentration of troops and machines we see in the western front campaigns but smaller groups like the one in the Caucasus with the Russian navy i did. 
   
Absolutely, here fuel, spare parts and actually FINDING your enemy are the major difficulties  :D

I'm really enjoying your Persian campaign atm

Keep up the good work !

Cheers

Alfie

PS   Did you get your Ottoman skins btw ?
Title: Re: Forgotten aviators - Eastern front - Galicia 1915 (WIP)
Post by: Nero on April 19, 2020, 03:33:38 AM
Thank you guys. No, I have only 4 planes: aviatik, Albatros DII late, eindecker, pfalz eIII and another i don't remember. I ll need the Rumpler c IV (used massively on the
Turkish front. I could mount it but historically the Rumpler was really used everywhere almost by the Turkish. (well by the Germans.. There was only few Turkish pilots. I read 100.)
Title: Re: Forgotten aviators - Eastern front - Galicia 1915 (WIP)
Post by: Nero on April 19, 2020, 03:40:55 AM
+1

I love the more obscure theaters of combat

Quote
Not the massive concentration of troops and machines we see in the western front campaigns but smaller groups like the one in the Caucasus with the Russian navy i did. 
   
Absolutely, here fuel, spare parts and actually FINDING your enemy are the major difficulties  :D

I'm really enjoying your Persian campaign atm

Keep up the good work !

Cheers

Alfie

PS   Did you get your Ottoman skins btw ?

Are you playing the last version? (early version had some mistake. It s my first campaign, in that version I adjusted it for be what originally had to be, missions with Moranes and pushers
 Also the enemy was adjusted and in the second persian mission the airfield was a little bit "disordered" 😂 I adjusted all for that made a definitive version.
With this one in Galicia I learned to use the same map with the same airfield I made for several missions, only changing something, so is better and more realistic instead of restarting all, change the position of all, hangars, etc etc and loose double the time. This one is built better with more attention
There is also a mission with a Lebed, (a captured German or austro Hungarian plane, an aviatik in this case since it have the Russian skins.). But the most are with mf11 and Farman 30.
The next campaign will be with the Ilya muromets bomber since, luck, they have a bomb aiming system in the game (while the caproni and many others don't have. Pity, in the caproni campaign i had to let the ai drop bombs. It was accurate, very, but without aiming system half fun a gone.) in eastern poland/ucraine, i wanted to do also a seaplane campaign in the Baltic but I haven't so much choise with maps and plane. The ideal would be to use the grigorovich m-9 but his cockpit is messed up totally. Btw thank you for your support guys, this one will be better than my first one like I sad, promised 😀
Title: Re: Forgotten aviators - Eastern front - Galicia 1915 (WIP)
Post by: Nero on April 20, 2020, 01:02:51 PM
Now I find some more ottoman skins especially for the Rumpler. Very good, over a good and working grigorovich M5 and M9 for the 2nd part of the Russian navy campaigns that will be on the seaplanes in the baltic in 1915 or 16
Title: Re: Forgotten aviators - Eastern front - Galicia 1915 (WIP)
Post by: Alfie Noakes on April 20, 2020, 02:09:07 PM
Excellent news  ;D
Nice to see a campaign for the Grigorovich M5 & M9 .....such beautiful floatplanes  :-*
Best empennage in DOF  :D
I notice they're not in the stock BAT game......I believe they're awaiting their own slots

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Forgotten aviators - Eastern front - Galicia 1915 (WIP)
Post by: Seal on April 20, 2020, 03:59:46 PM
Looks good!
Looking forward for Civil war campaign!
Title: Re: Forgotten aviators - Eastern front - Galicia 1915 (WIP)
Post by: Nero on April 20, 2020, 04:54:06 PM
Excellent news  ;D
Nice to see a campaign for the Grigorovich M5 & M9 .....such beautiful floatplanes  :-*
Best empennage in DOF  :D
I notice they're not in the stock BAT game......I believe they're awaiting their own slots

Cheers

Alfie

They have in the version. I found. It is in the sas forum btw. In the thread of Giotto grigorovich, down, there is a guy who posted an adjusted version of it. Both of the M5 and m9
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: SAS~vampire_pilot on May 15, 2020, 09:23:01 AM
I am playing this and the setting is quite enjoyable  8)

However, I want to feedback something in terms of mission building.
I find your recon markers too small most of the time. When after one hour of flight I am not able to trigger the recon marker in several attempts, it is a bit of an immersion breaker...

And just as a heads up, you use a flag for Germany which was actually frowned upon, its colors forbidden in Imperial Germany. It's the flag of the Republic. There is an imperial static German flag available in BAT.
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: EHood on May 16, 2020, 08:42:40 AM
Nero - Is there an improved version of the Persian Front campaign? A peculiar glitch, possibly something to do with the Transcaucasus map, was reported in the Tech Help, a couple of weeks ago, but I've seen to response to that report:

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,63963.0.html

This glitch is peculiar, but missions themselves are very interesting, and I certainly appreciate your work. I've downloaded your latest, The Battle for Galicia, and I'll be taking on that one as soon as I've completed the Persian Front campaign. Thank you, sir.  ;D
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: Nero on June 18, 2020, 01:34:43 PM
I am playing this and the setting is quite enjoyable  8)

However, I want to feedback something in terms of mission building.
I find your recon markers too small most of the time. When after one hour of flight I am not able to trigger the recon marker in several attempts, it is a bit of an immersion breaker...

And just as a heads up, you use a flag for Germany which was actually frowned upon, its colors forbidden in Imperial Germany. It's the flag of the Republic. There is an imperial static German flag available in BAT.

Aah sorry if I answer now, I didn't come here for sometime (working on the other campaigns), I must fix that, I tough I had used the imperial flag, probably I put the republican flag for a mistake. Thank you vampire!
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: SAS~vampire_pilot on June 18, 2020, 10:41:40 PM
no problem. I added a imperial German war flag in 3.8.4 in parallel to the black white red state flag. It was a originally Navy flag but was adopted and used the Army as well.
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: stiv_069 on June 19, 2020, 07:58:58 PM
Great start. I congratulate you!
http://siberia-minis.7910.org/forum/showforum.php?fid=12
This is my experience on this topic. If you are interested, I can give you my unfinished companies.
http://forum.aviaskins.com/forumdisplay.php?f=59
http://forum.aviaskins.com/forumdisplay.php?f=65
http://forum.aviaskins.com/forumdisplay.php?f=53
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: Nero on June 20, 2020, 02:32:13 PM
Great start. I congratulate you!
http://siberia-minis.7910.org/forum/showforum.php?fid=12
This is my experience on this topic. If you are interested, I can give you my unfinished companies.
http://forum.aviaskins.com/forumdisplay.php?f=59
http://forum.aviaskins.com/forumdisplay.php?f=65
http://forum.aviaskins.com/forumdisplay.php?f=53

Thank you Stiv! Yes if you want to, pass these campaigns to me and I will complete them. I yet converted one campaign by aviaskin forum for dark blue world 1916, it was in the Caucasus, there was yet the English briefings but I have no problem even in Cyrillic, I can translate it with the pc, (one of my favorite mods of silent hunter 4, soviet waterway, sovietsly farvater, is on vkontakte by the somgrup, is totally in Russian, and I had to translate even the mission orders and radio messages, especially in the early days of the war and had reached a good level of translation with time, I can also read the Russian but I don't speak it, also if I know many words) so if you wanna give me it, i don't published the campaign it was in the Caucasus because it was for my own use, I disnt had permissions. I took by aviaskin also many skins. In my campaigns I wanted to put also the sikorsky s12 and s16, and the other biplane fighter designed by that Italian engineer that worked for the tsar, I don't remember the name, included in the mod orient is red here on sas, but the mod is not updated for bat 3.8 and particularly its rotary engine system. Only the Ansaldo a1 work unfortunately, the others no. I had looked also a Russian Civil War campaigns in urga, Mongolia, but I couldn't convert or download it don't remember. Thank you again.
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: Nero on June 20, 2020, 02:33:37 PM
Nero - Is there an improved version of the Persian Front campaign? A peculiar glitch, possibly something to do with the Transcaucasus map, was reported in the Tech Help, a couple of weeks ago, but I've seen to response to that report:

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,63963.0.html

This glitch is peculiar, but missions themselves are very interesting, and I certainly appreciate your work. I've downloaded your latest, The Battle for Galicia, and I'll be taking on that one as soon as I've completed the Persian Front campaign. Thank you, sir.  ;D

Like I sad to vampire sorry if I answer now, BTW yes I ll upload an updated both Persian and Galicia campaigns nextly, small modifications as enlarge the recon areas, correct and fix something and so on.
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: Alfie Noakes on June 21, 2020, 12:55:34 AM
Excellent !

A Stiv & Nero combination  8)

I look forward to your campaigns with great anticipation  :P

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: stiv_069 on June 21, 2020, 01:45:05 AM
Excellent !

A Stiv & Nero combination  8)

I look forward to your campaigns with great anticipation  :P

Cheers

Alfie

I almost retired. I need to finish FOCKER DII.
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: stiv_069 on June 21, 2020, 02:33:30 AM
There was a problem with the Forgotten Aviators 1h campaign. No BlackSea / load.ini card.
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: Nero on June 21, 2020, 06:58:47 AM
There was a problem with the Forgotten Aviators 1h campaign. No BlackSea / load.ini card.

I have the same problem with other bat campaigns, and other maps, for example in the Monty s doernier  blitz campaign the France Belgium map don't work, texture miss, same the la chute map, error loading, I guess is an installation problem of the mod that miss some texture and other things regarding the maps, try to download the black sea map separately and insert it (in map mods, you know) and see if work. Usually I do so when some Map do that.
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: SAS~vampire_pilot on June 21, 2020, 07:42:08 AM
I have the same problem with other bat campaigns, and other maps, for example in the Monty s doernier  blitz campaign the France Belgium map don't work, texture miss, same the la chute map, error loading, I guess is an installation problem of the mod that miss some texture and other things regarding the maps, try to download the black sea map separately and insert it (in map mods, you know) and see if work. Usually I do so when some Map do that.

I will say this to be absolutely clear: there are no textures missing in BAT.

What can be the reason is a) your graphics setup (hardware+driver+config.ini) can't load certain textures for size/compression/... whatever reason or b) you have 3rd party mods that conflict.
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: stiv_069 on June 21, 2020, 08:32:44 AM
I don’t have this card, I don’t know where to get it.
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: Nero on June 21, 2020, 08:53:53 AM
I don’t have this card, I don’t know where to get it.

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,59324.0.html here there is the black sea map of the first 2 missions, download it and reinstall it in the game. When I have these problems I simply reinstall the map downloading it here on sas,  usually work.
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: Nero on June 21, 2020, 08:55:32 AM
I have the same problem with other bat campaigns, and other maps, for example in the Monty s doernier  blitz campaign the France Belgium map don't work, texture miss, same the la chute map, error loading, I guess is an installation problem of the mod that miss some texture and other things regarding the maps, try to download the black sea map separately and insert it (in map mods, you know) and see if work. Usually I do so when some Map do that.

I will say this to be absolutely clear: there are no textures missing in BAT.

What can be the reason is a) your graphics setup (hardware+driver+config.ini) can't load certain textures for size/compression/... whatever reason or b) you have 3rd party mods that conflict.

Usually i simply reinstall the map in bat, and it work. Especially when the problem is the texture missing. Now for rxame I had an error in the la chute map, error loading landscape in load. Ini. I reinstalled again the map with a new entry in load. Ini and it work.
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: stiv_069 on June 21, 2020, 09:26:27 AM
thank
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: SAS~vampire_pilot on June 21, 2020, 09:53:24 AM
Usually i simply reinstall the map in bat, and it work. Especially when the problem is the texture missing. Now for rxame I had an error in the la chute map, error loading landscape in load. Ini. I reinstalled again the map with a new entry in load. Ini and it work.

This may help if the textures that come with the original download are "different" than the ones already in BAT.
If it helps, fine for you!

I just want to avoid misunderstanding about a possible bug.
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: EHood on June 21, 2020, 08:32:28 PM
Nero - Is there an improved version of the Persian Front campaign? A peculiar glitch, possibly something to do with the Transcaucasus map, was reported in the Tech Help, a couple of weeks ago, but I've seen to response to that report:

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,63963.0.html

This glitch is peculiar, but missions themselves are very interesting, and I certainly appreciate your work. I've downloaded your latest, The Battle for Galicia, and I'll be taking on that one as soon as I've completed the Persian Front campaign. Thank you, sir.  ;D



Like I sad to vampire sorry if I answer now, BTW yes I ll upload an updated both Persian and Galicia campaigns nextly, small modifications as enlarge the recon areas, correct and fix something and so on.

Many thanks. Your work is much appreciated. It's that kind of talent and effort that's kept the sim going strong for so long.  8)
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: Nero on June 23, 2020, 04:12:15 AM
Usually i simply reinstall the map in bat, and it work. Especially when the problem is the texture missing. Now for rxame I had an error in the la chute map, error loading landscape in load. Ini. I reinstalled again the map with a new entry in load. Ini and it work.

This may help if the textures that come with the original download are "different" than the ones already in BAT.
If it helps, fine for you!

I just want to avoid misunderstanding about a possible bug.


Yeah indeed not ever work. Usually work, most of time. Btw this week I ll release a new version of the two campaigns with those changes: the first 2 crimean missions of the Caucasian campaign adjusted, recon objective enlarged and other things. I converted to bat also the caproni bombers campaign of Giotto, but I donno of i have the permission to publish since it's not mine, usually I convert campaigns for my personal use, (like the Persian campaign it was in the Caucasus of stiv I guess, yet converted months ago, I must ask permission for those I guess) , I will pm Giotto. Or even I will give the converted campaign to him, and he will publish it. We ll see. In future I plan to convert also other dbw 1916 campaigns like notti venete (those possible. Because sometime I cannot since it's too different).
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: SAS~vampire_pilot on June 23, 2020, 10:20:19 AM
by all means, convert and publish!
I have done this a lot. Just give credits to the original maker.
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: Nero on June 23, 2020, 04:18:14 PM
by all means, convert and publish!
I have done this a lot. Just give credits to the original maker.

OK in the next days I will post some converted campaign giving credit. I could convert also the other stiv campaign easily but I need more time for them, while it was in the Caucasus had English briefings, the others not, if they was in cyrillic I could easily translate them but their in machine language, with numbers, and so on, since my open office probably haven't the Russian letters so I need more time to reinvent the briefings for them. But it was in the Caucasus, 47 squadron (Russian Civil War 1919 campaign by David I guess, if I remember good or someone other I must check on mission4today) and the caproni of Giotto are ready. I will post them soon. Together with the updated Russian campaigns. Thank you vampire for the info, I never modded and didn't knew the rules.
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: JAKMACK on March 28, 2021, 03:09:32 PM
Are these static or dynamic?
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: RealDarko on July 24, 2021, 12:26:15 PM
Can I ask how you install those campaigns for DOF please?
Title: Re: FORGOTTEN AVIATORS - The eastern front 1914-1917 - ALL IN ONE
Post by: Nero on July 29, 2021, 01:55:13 PM
The campaigns are static, Judy place them in your RE Russian empire mission folder.