# Special Aircraft Service

## Individual Mod Downloads for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => Other_Singles => Topic started by: Edlor on May 25, 2017, 03:33:24 PM

Title: Demoiselle
Post by: Edlor on May 25, 2017, 03:33:24 PM
Santos-Dumont Demoiselle

The Santos-Dumont Demoiselle ("Damselfly" or "Damsel") was a series of aircraft built in France by Brazilian aviation pioneer Alberto Santos-Dumont. They were light-weight monoplanes with a wire-braced wing mounted above an open-framework fuselage built from bamboo. The pilot's seat was below the wing and between the main wheels of the undercarriage. The rear end of the boom carried a tailwheel and a cruciform tail. Wiki

Update   The Demoiselle now has it's own slot. Thanks to stiv_069 and to all those involved with bringing us this new slot and the original aircraft.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/c29ocjgw8i75h5d/08_Demoiselle.rar

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ÀÉÐ-²Í²:Demoiselle        air.Demoiselle 1    NOINFO     r01 SUMMERÔÌ îò Niu4.fmd åñòü â áàòòîíçå 10.3.ÇÂÓÊ:  SoundName Clerget  PropName small  StartStopName std_d
Here is the prop fix for the Demoiselle.

To use simply swap out your 3DO folder for this one. http://www.mediafire.com/file/zrl8950d8aza2z4/Demoiselle_Prop_Fix.rar

Cheers and enjoy,

Edlor

(https://s7.postimg.cc/zdxq8i14r/2017-05-25_at_21-26-50.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jsgeojp6f/)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/hqkio1gl7/2017-05-25_at_21-27-18.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/otse3nm0n/)
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on May 25, 2017, 04:02:36 PM
Looks great! I love the pilot. He looks like Leon Redbone.

(https://s19.postimg.cc/hqtzomjxf/leon-redbone.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5c77oasf3/)
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: David Prosser on May 25, 2017, 06:27:36 PM
Thanks for making this, and the link to the Bleriot 11.
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Edlor on May 26, 2017, 05:42:46 AM
Thanks and you're very welcome guys.  :)

I can definitely see the resemblance there SAS~Bombsaway.  :D :D

Cheers,

Edlor
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: stiv_069 on May 26, 2017, 06:24:35 AM
Looks great!
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Hubberranz on May 26, 2017, 09:18:41 AM
Yeeeh ! Fantastique!
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: oldschoolie on May 26, 2017, 11:09:00 AM
Not an expression a 75 year-old uses every day..but...Cool!  Thanks for this sweet device.
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: FANATIC MODDER on May 26, 2017, 12:24:37 PM
Great, thanks a lot!!!!
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Edlor on May 26, 2017, 02:09:46 PM
Thanks again all.

Glad you like it and you can never be too old to say " Cool " oldschoolie.  ;D ;)

Cheers,

Edlor
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: stiv_069 on May 26, 2017, 08:08:32 PM
et vous pouvez mapping pour Santos-Dumont Demoiselle? et encore le rendre visible dans le programme de Sknil 0.7.
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: stiv_069 on May 27, 2017, 02:53:27 AM

(https://s2.postimg.cc/iuyx774h5/27.05.2017_11-50-53.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9n6oqhxet/)

(https://s18.postimg.cc/g3uiz1qc9/27.05.2017_11-10-58.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3p7qypytx/)
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: stiv_069 on May 27, 2017, 03:17:26 AM
....\PaintSchemes\Pilots

(https://s3.postimg.cc/64ym33j4z/Dem_Pilot.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/l0x5aoujj/)
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Vampire_pilot on May 27, 2017, 03:46:21 AM
Oh my! Very nice! :D
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Edlor on May 27, 2017, 06:48:23 AM
Glad you like it vampire_pilot and thanks for everything stiv_069.

Updated links with new slot in first post.  ;)

Cheers,

Edlor
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Uzin on May 27, 2017, 07:58:31 AM
Marvellous !
Fantastique !

... but can anybody describe to noob how to install this plane, please ?
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Flying H on May 27, 2017, 03:53:26 PM
Uzin, noob!?  ;D
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Uzin on May 27, 2017, 04:06:00 PM
Uzin, noob!?  ;D
Yes, I am, as it is going for installation of classfiles etc. >:(
What paste to which folder and so on.
Thanks in advance of any help.
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Edlor on May 27, 2017, 06:08:36 PM
Hi Uzin,

Cheers,

Edlor
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Uzin on May 28, 2017, 03:09:53 AM
Hi Uzin,

Cheers,

Edlor
Thanks, Edlor, I made it before, the same way as you say , but it did not work for me.
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Edlor on May 28, 2017, 12:52:01 PM
With what little info you've provided Uzin, I'm afraid that's the best I can offer you at this time.

Cheers,

Edlor
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Uzin on May 28, 2017, 02:47:00 PM
Tried again:
Copy/pasted the folder from the first post in this thread, namely 08_Demoiselle folder, into 4.13.4 SAS modact 6.40 #SAS folder, the proper line

Demoiselle        air.Demoiselle 1      NOINFO     r01 SUMMER

into SAS/STD/com/ maddox/il2/ objects/ air.ini. With no success. Again game fires to desktop. What more info can I give ? Yes, there is not Nieuport 11 installed.
Sorry for inconvenience.

EDIT:
Tried to install also to BAT module DOF2. no success. Again game fires to desktop.
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Edlor on May 28, 2017, 06:01:46 PM
Not sure what to tell you Uzin.

I just tried this in my 4.13.4 with 6.40 and it worked flawlessly. I also tried it in CUP #DOF with the same results. Perhaps you have a corrupted copy. Try downloading it again and see if that works for you.

Cheers,

Edlor
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Alfie Noakes on May 29, 2017, 01:30:28 AM
Very odd.... :(

The Damselfly works for me in both DOF and DBW 1916

(https://s11.postimg.cc/sf2jz868j/29.05.2017_7-05-56.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/srty5eoi7/)

BTW.... Master Edlor, after producing a string of beautiful a/c just recently.....would you be interested in helping bring this Gunbus to life ?

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,55312.0.html

A polite question....not a request .....and certainly not a demand  ;D

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Demoiselle- Heuréka !
Post by: Uzin on May 29, 2017, 03:15:21 AM
Heuréka !
I freshly d/lded Demoiselle from the first post here, installed it into 4.13.4 and voila !
It flies in QMB, very lovely plane, I shall use it for testing of new Irkutsk map.
Many thanks to all who has patience with me, excuse for inconvenience.
Best regards,
Ivan

N.B. I relied upon mediafire, but I have earlier troubles with file no. 15 in vpmedia, similarly as Max.
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: max_thehitman on May 29, 2017, 07:52:31 AM
Very cool little aircraft  8) Thank you. Great fun to fly!
Those early pilot pioneers had lots of fun with these airplanes.

Here is something you can do to make this 3d-model look a little bit better in your game.
You will have to do this to your personal game, so I am not posting here all the files.

Go open up your folder .... \3do\Plane\Demoiselle(Multi1)
Now open each file with NOTEPAD and look to see if you see the words... [LightParams] written on it.
When you see this word, change the number values on it to this (see below).

[LightParams]
Ambient 1.0
Diffuse 1.0
Specular 0.2
SpecularPow 2

Shine 0.0

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Do this to ALL files,

except the two files named... Pilot1 and Rigging
For these 2 files write the following number values....

[LightParams]
Ambient 1.0
Diffuse 1.0
Specular 0.0
SpecularPow 0

Shine 0.0

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This will make your 3d-model look a little less shiny and less bright and have a more "natural look".

Some of the texture skins used for this airplane need their colors to be changed to have less bright colors
and less saturation of colors, so to make the wood parts and canvas parts have a more natural look.

But this will need for someone to make a new skin-template or use Photoshop to do some color channel tweaks.

Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Edlor on May 29, 2017, 08:42:18 PM
Thanks all. :)

Glad you like it and that screenshot should be framed and hung in a museum Alfie. I really like that. :)

As to the Gunbus I've got too many projects on the go to take on another one at this time. If one doesn't show up by the time I get caught up I'd be happy to bring it to life then. ;)

I'm happy to hear you got it working Uzin and I'll be looking forward to your Irkutsk map once you're done your testing.

Thanks Max and thanks for the tips on adjusting the lightparams values. They'll definitely come in handy for future projects. ;)

Cheers and thanks again,

Edlor
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: stiv_069 on June 01, 2017, 10:06:23 AM

(https://s11.postimg.cc/iyos3kjtf/01.06.2017_23-59-48.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/79ksflsun/)

(https://s30.postimg.cc/7giu5g0ip/02.06.2017_0-00-03.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/t2xumgz31/)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/cihnitu49/02.06.2017_0-00-39.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g23l8mwtx/)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/qomscolzd/01.06.2017_23-59-58.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gekddfw3p/)
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Alfie Noakes on June 02, 2017, 12:22:58 AM
Wow....excellent skin for the Demoiselle  stiv_69  ;D
Superb detailing......is it completed ?.......are you planning to release it ?

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: stiv_069 on June 02, 2017, 12:35:20 AM
Wow....excellent skin for the Demoiselle  stiv_69  ;D
Superb detailing......is it completed ?.......are you planning to release it ?

Cheers

Alfie
I'm no. But I know where you can get it.
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: UberDemon on June 05, 2017, 09:09:09 PM
Muito legal!

Vi uma copia to Demoiselle em Paris.  Vai tentar o 14 bis?

[Very nice.  I saw a copy of the Demoseille in Paris.  Are you going to try making the 14 bis? (Also from Santos Dummont)]
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Edlor on June 06, 2017, 07:20:50 AM
Thanks UberDemon. :)

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I saw a copy of the Demoseille in Paris.  Are you going to try making the 14 bis? (Also from Santos Dummont)]
That would have been cool to see and no plans for the 14 Bis at this time.

Cheers,

Edlor
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: David Prosser on June 07, 2017, 02:43:45 AM
Every time I see a clip of the 14 bis flying, I think. No way. It's facing the wrong way. Not going to happen. Then, it takes off. Simply amazing.
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: fighter1976 on June 15, 2017, 12:44:21 PM
Hi! Have problem: when mission starts, the airplane shakes violently and explode, even with throttle at idle
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Edlor on June 15, 2017, 11:43:36 PM
Hi,

Could you provide more info such as which game version you're using and a log file.
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: fighter1976 on June 16, 2017, 12:22:44 AM
I'm running DBW 1.71
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: fighter1976 on June 16, 2017, 12:23:53 AM
About the log, I don't know how to do it( or find it).Sorry :(
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Alfie Noakes on June 16, 2017, 01:08:25 AM
Try this   :)

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13457.0.html

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: SAS~Monty27 on August 22, 2017, 07:31:59 AM
Very cool little aircraft  8) Thank you. Great fun to fly!
Those early pilot pioneers had lots of fun with these airplanes.

Here is something you can do to make this 3d-model look a little bit better in your game.
You will have to do this to your personal game, so I am not posting here all the files.

Go open up your folder .... \3do\Plane\Demoiselle(Multi1)
Now open each file with NOTEPAD and look to see if you see the words... [LightParams] written on it.
When you see this word, change the number values on it to this (see below).

[LightParams]
Ambient 1.0
Diffuse 1.0
Specular 0.2
SpecularPow 2

Shine 0.0

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Do this to ALL files,

except the two files named... Pilot1 and Rigging
For these 2 files write the following number values....

[LightParams]
Ambient 1.0
Diffuse 1.0
Specular 0.0
SpecularPow 0

Shine 0.0

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This will make your 3d-model look a little less shiny and less bright and have a more "natural look".

Some of the texture skins used for this airplane need their colors to be changed to have less bright colors
and less saturation of colors, so to make the wood parts and canvas parts have a more natural look.

But this will need for someone to make a new skin-template or use Photoshop to do some color channel tweaks.

Thanks Max, what a neat tweak.  Thanks to Edlor and stiv_069 too, what a wonderful plane.
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Hubberranz on December 14, 2017, 07:49:23 PM
High Edlor

When engine is stopped, Hub disappears ( ..also at low RPM.. ) and it reveals prop is at 90' !  o_O
Normally this fact is hidden by the Hub.

(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/4a32/9khhjpv6qej7d4j7g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?9khhjpv6qej7d4j)
Engine is running(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/0cc7/3i9kp6as6udcz8o7g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?3i9kp6as6udcz8o)
Engine's off, Hub gone, prop 90'(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/ccdf/7d9h8n09qqo8bkj7g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?7d9h8n09qqo8bkj)

Oh well. It appears [PropRot1_D0] has been use to activate this hub. So having a visual propeller seen running screwed.
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Edlor on December 15, 2017, 06:23:52 AM
Thanks for the heads up Hubberranz.

Cheers,

Edlor
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Hubberranz on December 15, 2017, 07:36:25 AM
Thank you very much. Tested successfully !  ;D
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: Edlor on December 15, 2017, 02:29:56 PM
Happy to hear that.  ;)
Title: Re: Demoiselle
Post by: cypher5 on February 26, 2018, 02:44:44 PM
Guys, I'd like to claim credit for this model, if possible.
This is the Demoiselle model I've made for Flight Simulator ages ago, and with the same textures I adapted from the wright flyer.
The power lever on the left side is something I invented because at the time I couldn't find where it was located on the original.
My name is Marcel Di Foggi, and my model was uploaded to simviation years ago (FS2004 Vintage Aircraft Page 93 - an older version, the newer which is used here was removed some time ago).
I felt truly happy to see all the hours of my work being appreciated, even more so that it is on IL2 now, but I would like to be properly credited.
I have my original FSDS Model and files, if required.

Best regards,

Marcel.