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Battlefield - Airborne - Tactical (BAT) => BAT Tech Help => Topic started by: ls on March 11, 2017, 09:08:24 AM

Title: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes) [solved]
Post by: ls on March 11, 2017, 09:08:24 AM
I decided to put this new separate topic, when people revealed that it is general sound problem, not only for P11c with Kumpel's mod (as I was thinking first).
After using starter in some planes (P11c, P24, PWS-10, Fiat CR32, Avia Ba122, RWD-8, Letov S328, F4U-1, -1A, -1C, and -1D, BF 109 G10, BF 109 K4) in WAW module (BAT07 - clean setup), its sound is heard constantly in the background (even when engine is stopped).
Confirmed by independent users:

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,54269.msg590721.html#msg590721 (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,54269.msg590721.html#msg590721)
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,54287.msg590765.html#msg590765 (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,54287.msg590765.html#msg590765)
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,54269.msg590986.html#msg590986 (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,54269.msg590986.html#msg590986)
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,54269.msg591006.html#msg591006 (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,54269.msg591006.html#msg591006)
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,54287.msg590838.html#msg590838 (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,54287.msg590838.html#msg590838)
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,54287.msg590881.html#msg590881 (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,54287.msg590881.html#msg590881)

Problem is rather strange, because affected aircrafts in the same setup, but in TGA module work perfect (for example P11c, PWS-10, Fiat CR32, Avia Ba122).
Suggestions please?

Thanks in advance,
ls
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: Flying H on March 14, 2017, 07:04:04 PM
Bumping this topic! Tonoght I tested quite a few (ca 30) AC in QMB and all of them had this concistent startup sound. Still sounding after engin shutdown! In some ACs the sound was rather noisy, the Barracuda, in some very muffeled, only heard after shutdown, the Ginga. For most the sound is like a background repeating annoying noise! Can some sound guru please take a look to this!
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: SLAWEK1971WAWA on March 16, 2017, 04:31:36 PM
I have the same problem with the all of planes. It was so annoy, I got back to CUP.
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on March 16, 2017, 05:03:36 PM
I cant be 100% sure but I think this may help  http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,54395.0.html

Victors sound mod is pretty good. How I installed it in BAT WAW was to put the folder #00_1VictorSONDMod_4.12 into the WAW folder but that was so I could also get the wing fold sound to work that was not working in BAT. You can load it through the JSGME as per his instrutions. If you read his thread it will explain how to load the wing fold sound if you want it.

Try this mod because I went and test the P11c, P24and the PWS-10 and the starter sound stops when the engine turns on and there is no sound after you turn off the engine.
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: SLAWEK1971WAWA on March 16, 2017, 06:16:35 PM
Thank you for your help. I put the folder into !SAS_Engine_Mod in #WAW2. It works!  :)
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on March 16, 2017, 06:24:07 PM
Glad it worked but dont forget to thank Victor for his mod. :)
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: SLAWEK1971WAWA on March 17, 2017, 01:56:41 AM
Yes, indeed! Thank you Viktor for your excellent mod.  :)
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: dpeters95 on March 18, 2017, 12:01:58 PM
Thank you Victor.  But, I haven't been able to get the wing fold sound to work in BAT.  At least not in the F4U-1A that I tried it on...
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on March 18, 2017, 12:31:27 PM
what I did it wouldnt work untill I renamed the !!!!!!Winfold folder to " !      !!!!Wingfold " so that it loaded all the way at the top of the WAW folder. I'm not sure what mod or file was over riding it but it works.
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: kingle92 on March 18, 2017, 12:51:03 PM
I have the same problem with the starter sound.
I just ran IL-2 with CUP and soundset03 (Tiger33s sounds), and there the starter turns off as soon as the engine is running. I tried to put the soundset03 into BAT but the starter sound still won't disappear (or the soundset03 just isn't accepted from BAT.
Hope someone will fix this issue with the "stock" sounds of BAT, Tigers Sounds are great! :D
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: dpeters95 on March 19, 2017, 11:51:01 AM
what I did it wouldnt work untill I renamed the !!!!!!Winfold folder to " !      !!!!Wingfold " so that it loaded all the way at the top of the WAW folder. I'm not sure what mod or file was over riding it but it works.

Doh!  It didn't occur to me to change the priority.  I added the wing fold files to the VSM folder but didn't change the name of the VSM folder.  The only thing before it was the Engine Mod so that must be what stops it from working.  All good now!

Thanks!
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on March 19, 2017, 12:08:57 PM
I came to the same conclusion. That it needs to load before the engine mod but wanted to wait and see if anyone found the same. I dont know why the engine mod over rides it.
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: western0221 on March 19, 2017, 12:34:54 PM
I came to the same conclusion. That it needs to load before the engine mod but wanted to wait and see if anyone found the same. I dont know why the engine mod over rides it.

SndAircraft.class ?

Standard version Engine MOD adds Wheel brake sounds for differential wheel brake used only left or right.

Full Throttle Flame effect version also draws its Flame visual effect in the class, too.
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on March 19, 2017, 12:50:35 PM
Hi Western. It may be that class. I only had an issue with the wing folding sound not working until I loaded above the engine mod. I am using the engine mod with JapanCats effects only.
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: Flying H on March 19, 2017, 03:41:06 PM
Been away for a few days working so I have to try the fix tomorrow! Sounds like a solution that works though!
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: solotk on March 19, 2017, 05:34:59 PM
Tried the fix, but I don't think it's happening. Moved Victor's  Mod above Engine_Mod, but below Aircraft_Options, not happy it's actually loading. Previous to trying that, the pre-start sounds (engine spinning up pre-ignition etc) weren't loading. Aircraft sits in silence then all of a sudden goes to flame and start noise. Sounds still very quiet and not the same as the version I have loaded in VPmod, any more suggestions please guys?
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: ianp on March 22, 2017, 10:45:43 AM
Big thanks to SAS Bombsaway for the link to Victors soundmod and for instructions to install both have sorted the problem I had with continuous starter motor and no wingfold sound with Bat07 expansion.  I also thanked Victor on his soundmod page.

PS  To SAS  Bombsaway I never changed the loading order in the WAW2 folder Victors soundmod sits right below !SAS_Engine_Mod and I hear the wings unfold.  I do not have any other mods installed apart from sound.
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: solotk on March 22, 2017, 11:08:17 AM
IanP, that's weird, it worked!

Not sure why the mod position seems important in this case, but it has. Trying to think of any other tinkering I might have done, but can't remember any.

Many thanks!

solotk
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: ianp on March 22, 2017, 11:34:49 AM
I am happy it works for you too solotk, happy flying.
Title: Re: General engine sound problem in WAW module BAT07 (some planes)
Post by: ls on March 25, 2017, 07:22:35 AM
Problem was solved with installing BAT EXP 08 (feat. Victor's Sound Mod).

Greetings,
ls