# Special Aircraft Service

## The SAS Factory - Tech Help, Ancient Mods etc. => Dark Blue World Discussion & Support => The Keepsake: Old Mod Packs, Game Versions and Guest Mods => DBW Downloads & FBDSM => Topic started by: SAS~Poltava on August 20, 2013, 12:24:19 AM

Title: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: SAS~Poltava on August 20, 2013, 12:24:19 AM
Now Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" has been posted, and with this pretty much all modded Spanish Civil War aircraft are now available in one simple pack.

1. INTRODUCTION: “IL-2 SCW” is a simple compilation of material from different talented modders, and designed for DBW. The pack contains everything you need to start simulating air combat during the Spanish Civil War 1936-39. The aim of “IL-2 SCW” is to provide a comprehensive collection of pre-WW2 mods that can be easily installed, without multiple downloads, editing of different ini-files etc. And as it is activated through JGSME.exe it can’t “break” your installation, but can be switched “on” and ”off” as the player pleases.

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/Poltava/SCW_Il-2_Update3_zpsa39a766e.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Poltava/media/SCW_Il-2_Update3_zpsa39a766e.jpg.html)

This is UPDATE 3 of the updated base pack, with additional aircraft and other material. This means that you MUST have the base pack PLUS Update 1 AND Update 2 installed first, otherwise this update won’t of course work.

2. CONTENTS AND CREDITS: This update pack contains the following new material:

A.) Seven new aircraft (with variants):
* Junkers Ju 87A by DreamK
* Savoia Marchetti S.55m by Giotto
* Cant Z.501 by Giotto
* Cant Z.506B by Team Daidalos, SAS~Epervier & Birdman
* Fiat CR.20 by Giotto
* Heinkel He 60 by Reaper 3-1 & DreamK
* Vickers Vildebeest by DreamK
* Ford Trimotor by Epervier & Reaper 3-1

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/Poltava/scw-stuka_zps4955b275.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Poltava/media/scw-stuka_zps4955b275.jpg.html)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/Poltava/scw_sm55_zpsac42e7df.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Poltava/media/scw_sm55_zpsac42e7df.jpg.html)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/Poltava/scw_sm501_zpsc4959e2d.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Poltava/media/scw_sm501_zpsc4959e2d.jpg.html)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/Poltava/scw_z506b_zpsa521f1d6.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Poltava/media/scw_z506b_zpsa521f1d6.jpg.html)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/Poltava/csw_fiat-cr20_zps813eb7ed.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Poltava/media/csw_fiat-cr20_zps813eb7ed.jpg.html)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/Poltava/scw_vildebeest_zps752e71b9.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Poltava/media/scw_vildebeest_zps752e71b9.jpg.html)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/Poltava/scw_trimotor_zpscbea3484.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Poltava/media/scw_trimotor_zpscbea3484.jpg.html)

All of these individual mods and additional info on them can be found on this site: http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php Note: The Fiat CR.20 was present in Spain before the war, but only as a training aircraft.

B. A Nationalist Tiger Moth: This is not a new aircraft per se, but the old but unskinnable one put in SCW era colours, made by Juanmalapuente. Original mod by Ranwers. More info here: http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1824.0.html

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/Poltava/scw_nat_tiger-moth_zps319acc50.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Poltava/media/scw_nat_tiger-moth_zps319acc50.jpg.html)

C. 3 New stationary aircraft, for the Ju-87A, the Ford Trimotor and the Z506B, all made by Epervier. More info can be found here: http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,15399.0.html

D. 5 new ships: Three different types of small armed Trawlers, and two Italian SCW-era Destroyers. All have been made by Giotto. (Stanislao has repainted them.) More info here: http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,28884.0.html and here http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,28460.0.html

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/Poltava/scw_tral-bou_zps45489d55.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Poltava/media/scw_tral-bou_zps45489d55.jpg.html)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/Poltava/scw_italian-dd_zps5d17d8f9.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Poltava/media/scw_italian-dd_zps5d17d8f9.jpg.html)

E. 10 new ground columns: One with civilian vehicles, one with horse-drawn supply, and eight with infantry, trucks, horse-drawn artillery and tanks, one for each side and appropriate the era. This simple addition is my own work.

F. 49 new skins, by Mission Bug, Archie, Agracier, Murdoc, Imme, A1_Phoenix and Juanmalapuente.

3. REQUIREMENTS: As this an update pack it will ONLY work if you already have the base pack of “IL-2 SCW” installed PLUS Update 1 AND Update 2 (which all in its turn goes on top of a clean DBW 1.71 install. You can download the base pack here! (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads3&file=details&id=1581)) That is VERY IMPORTANT. Follow this procedure and it is almost 100% guaranteed to work. (And as mentioned: it can’t mess up your game, as it is activated via jgsme.)

4. INSTALLATION: First: Make sure to deactive "IL-2 SCW" through jsgme. After this the installation has three easy steps:
2.   The two folders (“jgsmemods”, “Paintschemes”) are simply dropped in the root folder of your DBW install (for instance "C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946"). Overwrite if prompted to.
3.   In your IL-2 root folder click on the icon named “JGSME.exe”. You will find one entry named “IL-2 SCW Mod Pack for DBW”. Select it, then click on the top arrow button (“Enable selected mod”). The Mod Pack will then be enabled. After this process is finished, close JGSME, and start IL-2 the regular way. (To the disable the Mod Pack, simply reverse the process in JGSME.)

Thanks to all talented modders who have made it possible to once again fight with or against the Republic in the skies of Spain!  :)
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Tofolo on August 20, 2013, 05:18:52 AM
Looks really nice, thanks Poltava!
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: cgagan on August 20, 2013, 06:08:05 AM
Great pack (again), many thanks Poltava!
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: HotelAlpha on August 20, 2013, 06:11:51 AM
Thanks!  :)  As usual a great job, Poltava.
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Uzin on August 20, 2013, 08:05:52 AM
Congrats !
Really nice pack .
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: SAS~Poltava on August 20, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
All the kudos should go to the GREAT modders who put in all that time and talent to make the material in this pack: DreamK, Giotto, Epervier and the others. I just bundled it together.
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: sphantom on August 20, 2013, 04:21:17 PM
Good job on putting this together. And using Bravo's holy grail got all the good stuff running on one install
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on August 22, 2013, 07:44:29 AM
thanks a lot Poltava for a great update - my three weeks holidays are right on the doorstep and I guess I will do at least one La Gloriosa campaign in those holidays :)
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: SAS~Poltava on August 22, 2013, 08:16:15 AM
Looking forward to it!

I will soon start a special thread for SCW-campaigns, with links to all available.
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Semor on August 22, 2013, 08:29:26 AM
I wish those Packs would run under 4.12  :-[
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on August 22, 2013, 09:24:26 AM
oh I meant, I am going to fly one of your wonderful campaigns...
I would love to create campaigns myself, as my book collection is quite large and should form the basis for many a great storyline, unfortunately, that FMB is, like we say in Austria, a spanish village for me, meaning I do not have the faintest idea how to use it :)

but maybe, if I find the time I will do a after action report and post it here just to promote all the great stuff you have packed into SCW... :)

cheers
phil
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 07, 2013, 10:28:46 AM
Hello guys, as posted in a wrong place (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,36832.0.html) my IL-2 SCW crashing at 70% after installation of Update Pack #3. Untill update pack #2 all works fine.

I tried to reinstall all from the beginning but the result is even as written above...  :(

Walter_Solito said to my to post the log about error, but I do not know how to do it and I don't know how to install "instant log".

Also the suggested by Griffon doesn't works... :( :(

Could you help me, please? Many thanks!!

Ciao.

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on September 07, 2013, 11:10:46 AM
Drop the mod into #DBW folder , it should be as a single folder named 000_Instant_log within the classfiles , then enable the log configuration in the conf.ini (remember to set it as read only in property)....
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 09, 2013, 04:49:59 AM
Hi Walter, thanks for reply! Next I will try to do as you suggest.

Ciao!

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on September 09, 2013, 07:57:19 AM
Hello Marco!

just a question: do you start installing from a clean DBW install or do you drop it on top of lets say TFM or an already otherwise modded #DBW folder?
a 70% crash usually indicates you are missing some entries in one of the various ini files or you have the entries but are missing the corresponding objects, ships, other stuff.....
if you start with a clean DBW 1.71, SCW should work as intended, at least it does on my install;

and if that still does not work, back to the log file as Walter has suggested...
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 09, 2013, 08:38:25 AM
Hi Griffon, in my IL-2 main root there are #DBW (+TFM) folder, #DBW1916, #UP, #SAS, etc. I put the SCW folder in jsgme folder and tried to activate it.

So I think is not a clean #DBW...

But the strange is that untill SCW update pack#2 all works fine and then no more...?!

How can I put a clean #DBW in my IL-2 main root without messing up all?

Ciao!

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on September 09, 2013, 09:26:35 AM
simple answer, you can, but you then loose all other mod packs if you are not using the il2selector;
for TFM, there is a zip file containing a clean #DBW folder, so maybe try this for starters.
into this folder, you can add SCW using JSGME or you unzip directly into this folder;
it should work then!

that pack 2 works and 3 does not is not that strange, considering that #3 contains various ships which go into several ini files;
if you have stuff inside the #DBW folder that also goes into some of those ini files and you overwrite the existing ini files with the ones from SCW that do not contain the entries that are needed for the existing stuff, then the whole install will crash...
it´s a little bit complicated to explain, but that´s how things go...

out of this reason, it´s best to use the il2selector because it allows for several different mod packs to go into one existing install, as long as all those modpacks use the same patch level, for example 4.101m in my case;
for different patch levels, you will have to use Bravo´s Holy Grail .......
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 09, 2013, 01:51:41 PM
Hello Guys, this is my conf.ini after modification suggested by Walter.

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[game]
HighGore=0
viewSet=25
Intro=0
NoSubTitles=0
NoChatter=0
NoHudLog=0
NoLensFlare=0
iconTypes=3
eventlog=eventlog.lst
eventlogkeep=0
3dgunners=1
mapZoomMode=1
mapWheelMode=1

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[HotKey Console]
Shift Tab=Activate
[Console]
HISTORY=1024
HISTORYCMD=1024
SAVE=console.cmd
LOG=1
LOGTIME=0
LOGFILE=logfile.txt
LOGKEEP=0

After this I delete the LOGFILE, re-enabled the SCW by jsgme and run it again; obiouvsly it crashed at 70% again but the follow is the logfile generated after crash.
Surely you are magician, I don't know how you can read in it... :o :o

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[09.09.2013 19:03:28] ------------ BEGIN log session -------------
OpenGL provider: Opengl32.dll
OpenGL library:
Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Render: GeForce GT 620/PCIe/SSE2
Version: 4.2.0
Size: 1152x864
ColorBits: 32
DepthBits: 24
StencilBits: 8
isDoubleBuffered: true

*** Looking for Advanced CPU Instructions...
• PentiumPro
• Multimedia (MMX)
• 3D (SSE)
• 3D (SSE2)
• [-] 3D (3DNow)
ColourBits 32, ABits 0, ZBits 24

*** Looking for Render API Extensions ...
[-] 'GL_EXT_paletted_texture' extension - Palettized textures (8 bit RGBA palette).
[-] 'GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array' extension - Compiled Vertex arrays.
[-] 'GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint' extension - Frustum clipping optimization.
• 'GL_EXT_secondary_color' extension - Secondary Color for 3D fog & specular optimization.
• 'GL_EXT_separate_specular_color' extension - SeparateSpecular for 3D fog & specular optimization.
• 'GL_ARB_multitexture' extension - Multitexturing.
• 'GL_EXT_texture_env_combine' extension - Multitextures advanced combining for special effects.
• 'GL_NV_texture_env_combine4' extension - Multitextures advanced combining for special effects.
• 'GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3' extension - Dot3 Bump advanced combining.
• 'GL_NV_depth_clamp' extension - Corrects Shadows rendering
• 'GL_ARB_texture_compression' extension - Saves texture memory by 400%
• 'GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic' extension - Anisotropic texture filtering.

Maximum texture size : 16384
Maximum simultaneous textures :4
MaxAnisotropic (1.0 = none) : 16.000000
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 3 -> 2 (delta = -1) to Range 0..2
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 5 -> 2 (delta = -3) to Range 0..2
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 3 -> 2 (delta = -1) to Range 0..2
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 1024 -> 512 (delta = -512) to Range 1..512
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.bristol-mercury.start.begin (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.bristol-mercury.start.end (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.Argus_series (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.Argus_series.start.begin (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.Argus_series.start.end (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.Hispano (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.AM_Series.start.begin (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.AM_Series.start.end (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.BMW_800_Series1 (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.J42 (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.j42.start.begin (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.J47 (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.j47.start.begin (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.M-82.start.begin (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.M-82.start.end (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset motor.TRD (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset amflyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset b17flyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset b25flyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset b29flyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset bf109flyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset bf110flyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset beauflyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset blenflyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset centflyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset corsairflyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset griffonflyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset he111flyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset hispflyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset hurriflyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset jetflyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset jumoflyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset jumo213flyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset m100flyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset p47flyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset mosquitoflyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset p36flyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset p38flyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Cannot load sound preset p40flyby (java.lang.Exception: Invalid preset format)
java.io.FileNotFoundException
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 09, 2013, 03:50:29 PM
This is the last part of the logfile, in the previous message it was lost. I hope this is more usefull:

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INTERNAL ERROR: TTF library: Could not open file.
WARNING: object 'font/arial8.font' of class 'FObjSect' not loaded
PlMisChief: property 'speed' NOT found in class 'com.maddox.il2.objects.ships.Shipgio$ItalLaMasaDD java.lang.RuntimeException: PlMisChief: property 'speed' NOT found in class 'com.maddox.il2.objects.ships.Shipgio$ItalLaMasaDD
at com.maddox.il2.builder.PlMisChief$Item.<init>(PlMisChief.java:87) at com.maddox.il2.builder.PlMisChief.configure(PlMisChief.java:497) at com.maddox.il2.builder.Plugin.loadAll(Plugin.java:206) at com.maddox.il2.builder.Builder.<init>(Builder.java:2819) at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIBuilder.<init>(GUIBuilder.java:73) at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:164) at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1853) at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1548) at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:211) at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:420) at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235) Main begin: java.lang.RuntimeException: PlMisChief: property 'speed' NOT found in class 'com.maddox.il2.objects.ships.Shipgio$ItalLaMasaDD
java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.RuntimeException: PlMisChief: property 'speed' NOT found in class 'com.maddox.il2.objects.ships.Shipgio$ItalLaMasaDD at com.maddox.il2.builder.PlMisChief$Item.<init>(PlMisChief.java:96)
[09.09.2013 19:03:38] -------------- END log session -------------

Many thanks for all! Ciao!

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on September 10, 2013, 03:28:01 AM
Hello Marco!

well, as far as I can tell, the "culprit" is this one here:
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,28460.0.html
as indicated by this line in your log:
PlMisChief: property 'speed' NOT found in class 'com.maddox.il2.objects.ships.Shipgio$ItalLaMasaDD java.lang.RuntimeException: PlMisChief: property 'speed' NOT found in class 'com.maddox.il2.objects.ships.Shipgio$ItalLaMasaDD

as it seems, your objects.ini or your ships.ini is not set up properly!
make sure to use a PLAIN DBW folder for copying the SCW stuff into it! this is utterly important!
otherwise you get ini files that do not contain all the info they need for the various mods you might have added!

as said already, you can grab a plain DBW folder from TFM, Simon has provided a link for a zip version in his TFM thread;
on top of this, copy the SCW files, but ONLY the SCW files, no other modpack!!!!

try that and report back :)

cheers
phil
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: SAS~Poltava on September 10, 2013, 04:10:25 AM
Yes, if don't use "IL-2 SCW" on an empty, plain, vanilla DBW folder you will probably get into trouble...

This is EXTREMELY important.
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 10, 2013, 06:13:02 AM
Well guys, I take the plain vanilla DBW 1.71, and next I will try to do as Phil suggested:

Quote
as said already, you can grab a plain DBW folder from TFM, Simon has provided a link for a zip version in his TFM thread;
on top of this, copy the SCW files, but ONLY the SCW files, no other modpack!!!!

Then I put it in my IL-2 main root, and then activate it by IL-2 selector, right? Can I rename this new folder to "#SCW" or otherwise to avoid messing up whit the actual #DBW folder?

Ciao.

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: SAS~vampire_pilot on September 10, 2013, 08:20:50 AM
I don't think that works as you would like to, markino.

The selector does not (AFAIK) have the ability to recognize the folder that way. What I do is, name it "#DBW _scw" and when i want to run it, I rename the regular #DBW to #DBW46 and the #DBW_scw to #DBW, so the selector will just run that folder as your regular DBW game. no problem.

I have a variety of DBW variants that I can run selectively that way.

dunno if there's a more elegant way though.
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on September 10, 2013, 09:28:34 AM
Marco, Vampire_pilot....

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,35642.0.html
it does not get more elegant than this!

Marco, basically you are right, you only need to set up the Selector ini file correctly;
how this should be done can be read in the thread above...

my SCW folder is named #SCW and can be selected via the Selector, just as #DBW_1916 or #TFM...
it just depends on getting the il2fb.ini file set up correctly and sometimes you need to mess with the RAM settings for the game;
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Laufer on September 10, 2013, 11:31:30 AM
Great update! Please, in next update, add new better versions of Hs-123 and SM.81:

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,20979.0.html (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,20979.0.html)

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,35900.0.html (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,35900.0.html)

:)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 11, 2013, 01:07:13 AM
Guys many thanks for all your help!! Next days I will try to install SCW following your instructions. I will report then the results...

Ciao!!

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 11, 2013, 02:11:11 PM
I put inside plain vanilla #DBW folder the content of the 4 "SCW mod-pack/jsgme/IL-2 SCW mod pack for DBW/#DBW" folders.
Files of Mission folders in the relative mission folder of IL-2 1946 main root.
Files of paintschemes as above; files of samples folder as above and so on. Then I re-enabled by jsgme but the result is always the same: loading crashes at 70% and logfile also report the same as previous.

Ok, white flag for me, is not mandatory I have SCW in my IL-2, and on the other hand I can not put stress on you all the time.

A big thank for all your help!!  :) :)

I hope will be near future a single mod-pack for SCW. Many congratulations again for the wonderful job for this air war period.

Ciao!

Marco

Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: SAS~Poltava on September 12, 2013, 11:34:52 AM
And you did put the SCW pack into the JSGME-folder?
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on September 12, 2013, 11:45:22 AM
good question Poltava!

Marco, using the selector, there is no need for the JSGME!!!
you create a #SCW folder for example, unzip the SCW files directly into that folder, let the packs overwrite each other in sequence if requested and then select SCW from the Selector (which you need to set up using the il2fb.ini)
that should then start the SCW "partition" of your install!
it is as easy as that :)
setting up the selector takes maybe 5 minutes and unzipping and copying another 5 to 10 mins;
so in 15 mins you should be up and running :)
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 13, 2013, 12:53:56 AM
Hello mates the last news about SCW are as follow:
Yesterday I downloaded the update pack 3 again and ship La Masa, then I tried to reinstall all, starting from a plain vanilla dbw folder, La Masa was obiuvsly installed already...
Then I tried to re-enable all by jsgme but as usual ctd crashed at 70%...

Quote
And you did put the SCW pack into the JSGME-folder?

Absolutely Yes Poltava... :)

I also tried to activate it by selector, as Phil suggested. In this case too I started from a plain vanilla dbw till update pack 3; I tried to set il2fb.ini also but when I try to select #SCW folder by selector, it doesn't appear on selector...?... Surely I wrong the setting up, but I don't know how to do (I don't know the correct syntax, I tried to copy & paste the previous lines, modifing them, next time I report which I wrote in il2fb.ini).

So I delete all and I reinstall all finishing at update pack 2, by jsgme. All works fine....as usual with update pack 2... By now I keep everithing so...

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Marco, using the selector, there is no need for the JSGME!!!
you create a #SCW folder for example, unzip the SCW files directly into that folder, let the packs overwrite each other in sequence if requested and then select SCW from the Selector (which you need to set up using the il2fb.ini)
that should then start the SCW "partition" of your install!
it is as easy as that :)
setting up the selector takes maybe 5 minutes and unzipping and copying another 5 to 10 mins;
so in 15 mins you should be up and running

Phil if you tell me the correct syntax for il2fb.ini I will try again even this system  :)

Ciao.

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on September 13, 2013, 03:06:14 AM
Hello Marco!

ok, first of all I start with a screenie of how my main game folder looks with respect to the different addon modpacks:

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img39/2330/iqtb.jpg)

the marked one with the red circle around it is my SCW folder....

this is then, how the SCW folder looks inside; I added some eyecandy mods but by and large, this is the SCW folder as it should look after extracting all three packs...

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img405/7619/xejq.jpg)

finally, this is how my il2fb.ini looks like, its not the complete one but the important parts....
you will need to adjust yours with regard to the modpacks you use if you want to have it look clean and not contain unnecessary stuff;
but as long as you leave your folder structure like in my example, it will work too, even if you do not have 1916 or the TFM mod up and running...

; Modtype setting. Set the number of different Mod Types here.
[Modtypes]
Types=6

; Mod Type No.1 (Zero-based Index = 0).
; Set short Name, Help text, Files folder name and Mods folder name.
[Modtype_00]
Name=Stock Game
Help=Unmodded, untouched 'stock' game version.
Files=none
Mods=none

; Mod Type No.2 (Zero-based Index = 1).
[Modtype_01]
Name=The First World War
Help=Dark Blue World 1916 by VPMedia, '#DBW_1916'
Files=none
Mods=#DBW_1916

; Mod Type No.3 (Zero-based Index = 2).
[Modtype_02]
Name=The Spanish Civil War
Help=The Spanish Civil War by Poltava, '#DBW_SCW'
Files=none
Mods=#DBW_SCW

; Mod Type No.4 (Zero-based Index = 3).
[Modtype_03]
Name=WWII to Korea New-TFM
Help=Dark Blue World + The Full Monty, '#DBW'
Files=none
Mods=#DBW

; Mod Type No.5 (Zero-based Index = 4).
[Modtype_04]
Name=The Cold War and the Jet Age
Help=Vietnam and beyond by SAS~Monty27, '#JTW'
Files=none
Mods=#JTW

; Mod Type No.6 (Zero-based Index = 5).
[Modtype_05]
Name=The Full Monty Original
Help=The Full Monty Original, '#TFM'
Files=none
Mods=#TFM

; Startup Settings for the SAS / UltraPack IL-2 1946 Game Launcher
[Settings]

; Mod Type Setting:
;
; 0 = No Mods, Stock IL-2 1946 Server
; 1 = "Classic" Mod Style, i.e. modded files reside in "FILES" and "MODS" folder
; 2 = Dark Blue World 1916 Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#DBW_1916"
; 3 = Spanish Civil War Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#SCW" folder
; 4 = Dark Blue World Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#DBW" folder
; 5 = The Jet Age Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#JTW" folder
; 6 = The Fully Monty Original, i.e. modded files reside in "#TFM" folder
;
; default setting: 0
ModType=3

; Ram Size Setting in Megabytes.
; Be careful not to select too big size here.
; Above 512MB is risky.
; Above 1024MB is critical.
; Above 1800MB will most likely cause startup errors.
;
; default setting: 1024
RamSize=1024

; Expert Mode Setting
; With Expert Mode enabled, the selector offers more setting options than
; than with default setting
;
; default setting: 0 (Expert Mode disabled)
ExpertMode=1

one final word of caution; the RAM size might be too big for your rig; I am running a quite good spec rig with a very good GPU so if you do not get the game to run with RAM Size=1024 try 512 or even something lower instead...game will still look great and run good :)

hope this all helps
cheers
phil
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 13, 2013, 03:22:56 AM
Hi Phil, many thanks for your help!!! :) :)

Next few days I will try to do as you suggested and I will report you the results.

Ciao!!

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 13, 2013, 07:11:08 AM
Hi Phil, I checked my Il2fb.ini and it is quite different from your:

Quote
; Startup Settings for the SAS / UltraPack IL-2 1946 Game Launcher
[Settings]

; Mod Type Setting:
;
; 0 = No Mods, Stock IL-2 1946 Server
; 1 = "Classic" Mod Style, i.e. modded files reside in "FILES" and "MODS" folder
; 2 = SAS Modact 3.x Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#SAS" folder
; 3 = UltraPack 3.x Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#UP#" folder
; 4 = Dark Blue World Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#DBW" folder
; 5 = Dark Blue World 1916 Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#DBW_1916" folder
; 6 = Spanish Civil War Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#DBW_SCW" folder
;
; default setting: 0
ModType=4

; Ram Size Setting in Megabytes.
; Be careful not to select too big size here.
; Above 512MB is risky.
; Above 1024MB is critical.
; Above 1800MB will most likely cause startup errors.
;
; default setting: 256
RamSize=512

; Expert Mode Setting
; With Expert Mode enabled, the selector offers more setting options than
; than with default setting
;
; default setting: 0 (Expert Mode disabled)
ExpertMode=0

; Cached File Lists setting
; When this setting is enabled, IL-2 on startup does not scan the modded files
; folder anymore, but uses a filelist cache file for this folder if it exists.
; The filename for this cache file is "~wrapper.cache".
; Every time when you change something inside your modded files folder, you
; have to wipe this file for the game to recreate it with updated contents.
;
; default setting: 0 (Cached File Lists disabled)
UseCachedFileLists=0

; Multiple Instances setting
; Usually you can run only one single IL-2 instance at a time.
; When you enable this setting, you can run IL-2 multiple times in parallel.
; This is particularly useful for developing and debugging tasks.
;
; default setting: 0 (Multiple Instances disabled)
MultipleInstances=0

; Exit With IL-2 setting
; When enabled, IL-2 selector will quit when you exit the game.
; When disabled, you'll get back to the selector when you exit the game, in
; case you started it through the selector.
;
; default setting: 0 (Exit With IL-2 disabled)
ExitWithIL2=0

; The following section holds additional parameters for the JVM,
; one parameter per line. Check Java 2 SE documents for applicable parameters.
[JVM]

The line: "6 = Spanish Civil War Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#DBW_SCW" folder" is new, I tried to write it but it doesn't work with selector.

This is my SCW folder location in IL-2 main root:

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img513/8255/u6kw.jpg)

...and this the content of SCW folder:

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img43/6898/dufn.jpg)

I hope this is useful for you for help me, without misunderstandings...

Many thanks! Ciao!

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 17, 2013, 06:39:41 AM
Hello guys, any ideas for my Il2fb.ini?

Many thanks! Ciao!

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on September 17, 2013, 07:19:14 AM
Hello Marko!

which selector version do you use?
the new 3.1 or the older 2.3 version?
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 18, 2013, 01:20:01 AM
Hello Marko!

which selector version do you use?
the new 3.1 or the older 2.3 version?

Hi Phil, I have selector version 2.2.2. Your Il2fb.ini works with selector 3.1?

Ciao!

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on September 18, 2013, 01:55:32 AM
Hello Marco!

yes, I am using the new selector 3.1;
thats why my il2fb.ini looks a little bit different :)

this is, how my old settings for the 2.3 selector looked like:

; Startup Settings for the SAS / UltraPack IL-2 1946 Game Launcher
[Settings]

; Mod Type Setting:
;
; 0 = No Mods, Stock IL-2 1946 Server
; 1 = "Classic" Mod Style, i.e. modded files reside in "FILES" and "MODS" folder
; 2 = SAS Modact 3.x Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#SAS" folder
; 3 = UltraPack 3.x Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#UP#" folder
; 4 = Dark Blue World Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#DBW" folder
; 5 = Dark Blue World 1916 Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#DBW_1916" folder
;
; default setting: 0
ModType=4

; Ram Size Setting in Megabytes.
; Be careful not to select too big size here.
; Above 512MB is risky.
; Above 1024MB is critical.
; Above 1800MB will most likely cause startup errors.
;
; default setting: 512
RamSize=1024

maybe try replacing setting 5 (the 1916 one) with #SCW for the SCW setup;
that should also work; but I you can, replace the old Selector 2.3 with the newer one; that one is way faster and more customizable...
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 18, 2013, 04:29:56 AM
Hi Phil, many thanks for your haelp. I will try to use your old one setting.

I have also DBW_1916 so, I thought, to copy the setting line 5, paste and modifing it as setting line 6 for SCW. But in this case the "ModType=4" turn in "ModType=5"?

Ciao.

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on September 18, 2013, 11:48:37 AM
I would leave the ini as it is...just replace all 1916 stuff with scw
If that does not work just copy the content of scw into the 1916 folder an leave the ini as it is...

Oh and switch to selector 3.1 as soon as possible-it is way more flexible and way better...
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 19, 2013, 02:48:58 AM
I would leave the ini as it is...just replace all 1916 stuff with scw

Hello Phil, I had done already as first attempt, but it doesn't works; in the selector there is not show SCW or similar...

Quote
; Startup Settings for the SAS / UltraPack IL-2 1946 Game Launcher
[Settings]

; Mod Type Setting:
;
; 0 = No Mods, Stock IL-2 1946 Server
; 1 = "Classic" Mod Style, i.e. modded files reside in "FILES" and "MODS" folder
; 2 = SAS Modact 3.x Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#SAS" folder
; 3 = UltraPack 3.x Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#UP#" folder
; 4 = Dark Blue World Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#DBW" folder
; 5 = Dark Blue World 1916 Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#DBW_1916" folder
; 6 = Spanish Civil War Modded game, i.e. modded files reside in "#DBW_SCW" folder
;
; default setting: 0
ModType=4

Next days I will do as you suggest:
Quote
If that does not work just copy the content of scw into the 1916 folder an leave the ini as it is...

...and at last, switching to selector 3.1 is the next, natural, step...

Many thanks for all!!

Ciao!

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 19, 2013, 08:31:03 AM
Guys, just for information, to install the selector 3.1 I must disable all mods in jsgme? Which the correct steps to switch from v2.2.2 to v3.1?
Ciao!

Marco

Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on September 19, 2013, 01:21:16 PM
hello Marko!

no need to disable anything, it is just copying the new files from selector 3.1 over into your root folder and replace the old ones...
just play around with ram settings a little, had to tweak mine to get TFM running, but nothing complicated...512MB should do, or even lower...
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 26, 2013, 02:15:51 AM
Hi Phil, oh my God it really works!!! Almost unbelievable!!
I installed selector 3.1, then modified the IL2fb.ini and restart all and #DBW_SCW it is appear on selector.
I started it and for now it seems to work well. Also Careers  seems to works fine till now…

I wish to ask you few curiosities:
1.When I play with SCW I can see on careers screenshot the carreers of DBW and I can play with they without problems.

2.The opposite also occurs when I play with DBW and I play carreers of SCW.

3. In SCW QMB the complete map set  that there is in DBW is not present. Just few maps are present in this QMB. How can I replace the entire set of my DBW?

Is this a normal way to?

Many thanks again for all your help and patience!

Ciao!

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: SAS~Poltava on September 26, 2013, 04:04:43 AM
In SCW QMB the complete map set  that there is in DBW is not present. Just few maps are present in this QMB. ...
Is this a normal way to?

Yes, that is normal.

Good to see that you finally got it running.  :)
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Metatron on September 26, 2013, 04:08:00 AM
I love these packs Poltava.
I wonder, is it possible to manually turn this into a separate selector option, like WW1?
That would be a great thing, and probably tremendously improve game performance.
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 26, 2013, 04:16:49 AM
1.When I play with SCW I can see on careers screenshot the carreers of DBW and I can play with they without problems.

2.The opposite also occurs when I play with DBW and I play carreers of SCW.

As above it is also normal?

Tanks & ciao!

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on September 26, 2013, 06:34:25 AM
Hello Marco!

congratulations :)

to answer your questions: SCW builds on DBW which means all the content of DBW is playable when selecting SCW plus the additional SCW stuff;
view SCW as an addition to DBW; as long as campaigns use planes, maps, objects etc that are in the original DBW, those campaigns will remain playable;

vice versa of course it is not completely the same but some campaigns may run if they use content that is integrated in DBW already;
if you select certain spanish civil war campaigns while running DBW, those might work to some extent, but not all;

and as all game versions you have running via the Selector use the same Missions folder, all the campaigns you have installed show up in all the various game versions;
you can run TFM and have DBW_1916 campaigns showing up, although those wont run; the same is true for most of the dedicated SCW campaigns;

so if you want to fly SCW, use just this one, it will spare you loads of troubles :)

@Metatron: yes this is possible - Marco just did it :) the keyword is "Selector 3.1" :)
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 27, 2013, 12:59:05 AM
Hi Phil, this goal has been achieved mainly for your helps and patience, and also all other SAS1946's guys halps!!! You are really available and include with newbie... :)

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vice versa of course it is not completely the same but some campaigns may run if they use content that is integrated in DBW already;
if you select certain spanish civil war campaigns while running DBW, those might work to some extent, but not all;

It is true, eg., in this time I am playing with Bf109 Africa's career and the map used, "Sands of Time", has small differences depending wich game I play...
I'd only done the tests out of curiosity... I also think is better to play relative careers with dedicated game... ;)

Quote
I love these packs Poltava.
I wonder, is it possible to manually turn this into a separate selector option, like WW1?
That would be a great thing, and probably tremendously improve game performance.

@Metatron: 3.1 selector is the way to do how you wish. No trouble when you install it. Just little modifications in IL2fb.ini are required, but if I could do it myself..... ;)

Ciao!!

Marco

Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on September 27, 2013, 02:11:15 AM
Hello Marko!

thanks for your kind words :) but that is why I love dedicated forums - it´s a give and take and also the only way IMHO to keep the great sim that IL2 is alive and kicking :)

concerning the maps: how a map looks like is defined in the load.ini for that map; you can modify the map if you tell the load.ini for that map to load other textures for example;
of course you can have different load.ini files for the same map, they are just called slightly different then; for example load_w.ini or load_s.ini for winter and summer maps (this is veeery simplified though, almost all mapmakers produced dedicated winter and summer versions of their maps, often also autumn and spring versions with different load.ini files of course);
depending on which load.ini is called from inside the missionfile of the mission you are flying, you get differently looking maps albeit basically, it is still the same map; for example there was an old Malta campaign I played ages ago which was released for the then current Malta map but you could also modify that Malta map with more bomb craters, loading new textures via a modified load.ini; of course you had to manually modify the missionfiles then too, telling the mission to load the new crater splattered map :)

but you are right when you say it is best to use the dedicated game version for a certain campaign, avoiding loads of trouble with missing planes, objects or other stuff...

@Metatron: just browse through this thread, you will find the solution for your question there ;)
that´s why basically the same map might look slightly different in some campaigns
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: markino on September 30, 2013, 02:20:48 AM
thanks for your kind words :) but that is why I love dedicated forums - it´s a give and take and also the only way IMHO to keep the great sim that IL2 is alive and kicking :)

This is also my thought!!!!!
Ciao!

Marco
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Metatron on October 01, 2013, 10:18:48 AM
I have read through this thread, as I understand it the DBW content remains alongside the SCW content with the selector?
What I would like to attempt is to have a selectable install of IL2 with ONLY the SCW content, to allow for faster running, and a separate one with the ww2 content.
I imagine this would be a big task though.
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Griffon_301 on October 01, 2013, 10:50:20 AM
Hello Metatron!

well what you think about is not possible because of the structure and character of the game!
IL2 is basically a WW2 flight sim;
DBW, all other modpacks, SCW or whatever builds upon this core and therefor can be viewed as add on packs;

as you need DBW for running SCW, you could basically view SCW as addon pack to the addon that DBW is itself;
therefor, you will not be able to run only SCW without WW2 content;
you can run SCW with all the DBW content but you do not need other addon content like TFM, newTFM for example;

the selector in this scenario lets you choose which addon pack to DBW you want to run, SCW, 1916, TFM, newTFM or other self generated content; it just depends which packs you have added to your install
but whatever you choose via the selector, it will ADD stuff to an existing DBW install, that contains all the WW2 stuff that was packed into DBW originally;

but trust me, if you run pure SCW on a DBW install, it runs and loads very fast, because nearly all of the DBW stuff is packed neatly into sfs files already, making loading times for the SCW modpack very fast! mine loads under 45 seconds...and its worth the effort!
Title: Re: Update Pack 3 for "IL-2 SCW" available now!
Post by: Metatron on October 01, 2013, 08:18:14 PM