Special Aircraft Service
Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Other Mods => WIP => Topic started by: mikoyan99 on August 15, 2013, 04:04:18 PM
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I've been playing around with the PBY/PBN mode recently:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,476.0.html
And I noticed that the 3D model for the PBY is identical to the PBN; in reality the hull form, nose and fin were different, so i'm currently working on a simple correction. I'll also be changing the front turret and engines to the correct form and hopefully sorting out a new skin.
(http://i.imgur.com/IHOG57E.jpg?1)
Progress so far - shortened front end and deleted 3rd hull step towards the stern.
The skin is proving more of an issue than anticipated at the moment - the .tga and .tgb files that make up the default skin can't be edited; i'll need to access them in order to sort a new turret and skin. Does anyone know if this is a universal problem, or is it that I have a corrupted download?
This all based on Ranwer's and ensign ro's work of course, both of whom have made my life a whole lot easier by sorting out the basic turrets and slots.
-Matt
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The default skins are just unmodified files from IL-2 in the native image file type of IL-2. Just use this tool https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1110.0.html to open them and convert them to normal editable tga files.
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Cheers mate, worked like a charm.
-Matt
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Just rename tgb -> tga and edit it. once done, rename back to tgb. that's all. Only tgb is important, other tga will follow the tgb.
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I've been wanting someone to do this for years!!! Awesome work! I'll be following closely!
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Will there be tricycle gear with this one
At one stage there was a L-5 amphibian getting around.
Being able to utilize land and sea,
Just a thought.
I feel you are the new float plane maker for the SAS ;D :D
Kirby
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All this work when you could be watching Americas/Australias Got [No] Talent, or Ice Road Truckers. Thanks for making the right choice, Matt.
cheers
David
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No joy on the tricycle gear i'm afraid; I still don't know the amphibian secret. I think there are a lot of very interesting flying boats and seaplanes out there; I think some nice anti-submarine and anti-shipping aircraft could add an interesting new dimension to the game.
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Anyway, i've released it:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,36461.0.html
It was only a simple 3D update so was quite straightforward to do. I do have some other PBY variants planned as well.
-Matt
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Wow! Your speed always amazes me! What variants are you planning on making? I hope you do the PBY-4... I always thought its rounded rudder was a little more aesthetically pleasing!
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It was a very simple job to be fair - only a fraction of the components in a new build, and no classfile editing.
No plans for the PBY-4; I was thinking more of RAF and Commonwealth variants, but primarily of adding a twin 20mm cannon armament to the bows of the black cat. I was also tempted to do a fictional RAF anti-shipping version with 60lb rockets and a single 75mm howitzer or 40mm Bofors gun in the nose.
-Matt
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I have alway wondered if the bow straffing guns could be implamented with an opening door much like the mods we have for some planes where the rear gun canopy opens when enemys are near or since the PBY has no opening canopy, could the bow doors open using the key to open canopy.
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Just in case you decide to do a PBY-4... Here is a pic. Before those famous bubble waist guns were implemented, they just had the sliding hatches that the gunners just kind of stood out of. You'll notice the rudder is more round. The PBY-4 was used extensively in the Aleutians and were also stationed in Hawaii during the Pearl Harbor attack.
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/Barrett_g_album/null_zps441a6d18.jpg)
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/Barrett_g_album/null_zpsaae43b66.jpg)
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I have alway wondered if the bow straffing guns could be implamented with an opening door much like the mods we have for some planes where the rear gun canopy opens when enemys are near or since the PBY has no opening canopy, could the bow doors open using the key to open canopy.
That would have been my first port of call - but I did a little research into the cannon installation, and I found they were mounted like this:
(http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/start-finish-builds/198958d1334827405t-pby-catalina-dual_20mm_nose-cannon.jpg)
(http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/start-finish-builds/198959d1334827407t-pby-catalina-cannons.gif)
If I do a version with a heavier weapon however, i'll do as you suggest; the bow door will open and the gun will slide out when the open canopy key is pressed.
For the historically accurate 20mm cannon, i'm not entirely sure yet as to how to proceed - it'll either be a remote turret with limited traverse, with the guns being controlled from a now weaponless front turret, or i'll install a fixed reflector gunsight in the catalina cockpit.
barrett, i'll say now to avoid getting your hopes up - I won't be making the PBY-4 version. If you can produce the relevant 3D parts however I will generate a new slot for you.
-Matt
Edit: here's another gun installation which saw service:
(http://www.daveswarbirds.com/blackcat/quadguns.gif)
4 .50 caliber brownings mounted in the bow door. This site is worth a look:
http://www.daveswarbirds.com/blackcat/photo4.htm
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No worries on the PBY-4.... I look forward to your Black Cat version with forward mounted strafing guns!!
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Will there be tricycle gear with this one
At one stage there was a L-5 amphibian getting around.
Being able to utilize land and sea,
Just a thought.
I feel you are the new float plane maker for the SAS ;D :D
Kirby
I think that the plane was ready, and can land and take off from land or water, but it cannot move from water to land and the work stopped. I think it went that way but I can be wrong.
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Mikoyan99, would it be possible to add torpedoes to the load out for the PBY-5? Historically, that was a very common weapon they carried.
Awesome work though, thank you very much!!
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look,
The PBY was a boat. 20mm's...what? Are ya gonna go out an shoot Pete's?
C'mon ladies. The PBY was a "Catalina". Leave it alone...sheesh...
Thanks for the PBY, Mikoyan.
Board a Cat...and go and shoot yer 20mm's...man.
Cheers
Gubi
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Leave it alone? Tell that to the guys that loaded 20mm cannons on the Cat back in WWII! What Mikoyan99 is doing is based on fact. Black Cats diving in on Japanese subs blasting away with 20mm cannons and 50 cals.... Dropping torpedoes and depth charges.... All in a night's work for Catalina pilots in WWII.
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Mikoyan99, would it be possible to add torpedoes to the load out for the PBY-5? Historically, that was a very common weapon they carried.
Awesome work though, thank you very much!!
This one does have torpedoes. It has a loadout of various flares, depth charges, bombs, and torpedoes. You might try re-installing the original PBY mod... Maybe something didn't work right if yours doesn't have torpedoes.
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look,
The PBY was a boat. 20mm's...what? Are ya gonna go out an shoot Pete's?
C'mon ladies. The PBY was a "Catalina". Leave it alone...sheesh...
Thanks for the PBY, Mikoyan.
Board a Cat...and go and shoot yer 20mm's...man.
Cheers
Gubi
How do you mean, you've lost me a bit there.
-Matt
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@ Gubi:
If you want to express your idea please do it in a more MATURE manner, which would require:
1/Not being rude
2/Be assertive not agressive
3/Get your facts right and provide evidents where needed. If you are not sure, just state that you are not sure.
Thank you for your understanding.
SAS~S3
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Thanks Barret, I'll check it again.
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Next update released:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,36461.0.html