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Individual Mod Downloads for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => Heavies => Topic started by: Dreamk on July 19, 2013, 05:43:44 AM

Title: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2 [4.10] [4.12]
Post by: Dreamk on July 19, 2013, 05:43:44 AM
Here they are - the SM81 family is flying in Il2 ;D  - the Sm81s were finished more than one year ago - but needed a few finalization touches that I could make only now - real life obliges  >:( (though in the meantime, Gio releases its stop gap version, for those who could not wait ;)) - and if already at it, I added the related bimotor and civilian versions
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img28/8569/d3is.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img577/9716/3lab.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img708/660/0dsi.jpg)

Credits:
Agracier: Default template
Archie: Skins
Dreamk - the rest of the job  :P
Enjoy!

Download link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bw5b39owc6n3ews

Update 1 for the Sm81bis engines:
http://www.mediafire.com/?7317663n77g4dac
open the archive and copy the files in your folder
SM81\3Do\Plane\SM81

Update 2 revised damage model
http://www.mediafire.com/?9arc60rghwqy3jf
AND
http://www.mediafire.com/?6y7nn50h2bp5auu
The new java file is optional (more vulnerable to small caliber hits) but the reworked CAPS files, the edited Hier.him files and the new wingroots meshes are essential to get all the damage model effects)


You'll need to install the updated Italian bombs, to fly these planes
_Arms30s_Italian_Bombs.rar:
http://www.mediafire.com/?xom6c621he4s8a3

Skins Pack by Archie
http://www.mediafire.com/?s50q7xwnip5xhiv

For those who have a 60% CTD problem in 410, use these FM (fix by Epervier):
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=35900.0;attach=8623

Air.ini additions:
SM81AR            air.SM81AR 1                       NOINFO    i01   SUMMER
SM81GR            air.SM81GR 1                       NOINFO    i01   SUMMER
SM81PX           air.SM81PX 1                       NOINFO    i01   SUMMER
SM81PXE           air.SM81PXE 1                       NOINFO    i01   SUMMER
SM81T          air.SM81T 1                       NOINFO   i01   SUMMER
SM73           air.SM73 1                       NOINFO    i01   SUMMER
SM81Bis      air.SM81Bis 1   NOINFO    i01   SUMMER

plane_ru.properties additions:
SM81AR   Savoia Marchetti S.81 (Alfa Romeo 125), 1936
SM81GR   Savoia Marchetti S.81 (Gnome-Rhone 14K), 1936
SM81PX   Savoia Marchetti S.81 (Piaggio X), 1936
SM81PXE   Savoia Marchetti S.81 (Piaggio X Early), 1936
SM81Bis   Savoia Marchetti S.81Bis (Asso XI), 1936
SM81T   Savoia Marchetti S.81T (Alfa Romeo 126), 1942
SM73   Savoia Marchetti S.73, 1935

weapons_ru.properties additions:

#####################################################################
# SM81AR
#####################################################################
SM81AR.default         Default
SM81AR.2x500T         2x 500kg T
SM81AR.4x250T         4x250 kg T
SM81AR.16x100T         16x100 kg T (mod 1930)
SM81AR.28x50T         28x50 Kg T (mod 1930)
SM81AR.56x24T         56x24 kg T
SM81AR.6xSpezzo14_3Inc+8x100T   8x100 kg T (Amatol) + 6 x42 Spezzone Inc
SM81AR.none         None

#####################################################################
# SM81GR
#####################################################################
SM81GR.default         Default
SM81GR.2x500T         2x 500kg T
SM81GR.4x250T         4x250 kg T
SM81GR.16x100M         16x100 kg M (mod 1930)
SM81GR.28x50T         28x50 Kg T (mod 1935)
SM81GR.56x24T         56x31 kg M
SM81GR.6xSpezzo14_6Frag+8x100T   8x100 kg M (mod 1930) + 6 x84 Spezzone Frag
SM81GR.18xPara         18 Paratroops
SM81GR.none         None

#####################################################################
# SM81PX
#####################################################################
SM81PX.default         Default
SM81PX.2x500T         2x 500kg T
SM81PX.4x250T         4x250 kg T
SM81PX.16x100M         16x100 kg M (mod 1930)
SM81PX.28x50T         28x50 Kg T (mod 1935)
SM81PX.56x40T         56x40 kg T
SM81PX.6xSpezzo14_3Inc+8x100T   8x104 kg M + 6 x42 Spezzone Inc
SM81PX.Cargo         12 Supply Sacks + 1 Goat + 1 200l Fuel Drum
SM81PX.none         None

#####################################################################
# SM81PXE
#####################################################################
SM81PXE.default         Default
SM81PXE.2x500T         2x 500kg T
SM81PXE.4x250T         4x250 kg T
SM81PXE.16x100M         16x100 kg M (mod 1930)
SM81PXE.28x50T         28x50 Kg T (mod 1935)
SM81PXE.56x40T         56x40 kg T
SM81PXE.6xSpezzo14_3Inc+8x100T   8x104 kg M + 6 x42 Spezzone Inc
SM81PXE.Cargo         12 Supply Sacks + 1 Goat + 1 200l Fuel Drum
SM81PXE.none         None

#####################################################################
# SM81Bis
#####################################################################
SM81Bis.default         Default
SM81Bis.2x500T         2x 500kg T
SM81Bis.4x250T         4x250 kg T
SM81Bis.16x100T         16x100 kg T (mod 1930)
SM81Bis.28x50T         28x50 Kg T (mod 1930)
SM81Bis.56x24T         56x24 kg T
SM81Bis.6xSpezzo14_3Inc+8x100T   8x100 kg M (Amatol) + 6 x42 Spezzone Inc
SM81Bis.none         None

#####################################################################
# SM81T
#####################################################################
SM81T.default      Default
SM81T.Cargo      20 Supply Sacks
SM81T.18xPara      18 Paratroops
SM81T.none      None

#####################################################################
# SM73
#####################################################################
SM73.default      Default
SM73.none      None

Theses files should not cause any problems with your computer, but we accept no responsibility if you think it does.

Thanks to Oleg Maddox and Qtim for creating Il2 and opening the gates to Mod creation, to Kumpel for his matrix tool, and thanks to SAS for enabling modders to share their knowledge on Il2 modding.

Summer is only beginning...... ;) :D ;D

                                Create!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Find 4.12 versions by StefanG starting with reply #107:
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,35900.msg491778.html#msg491778


Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Tofolo on July 19, 2013, 05:48:50 AM
Really nice, as always DreamK.

Thank you very much.

Downloading!!
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: urmel on July 19, 2013, 06:14:21 AM
Thank you,great work
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on July 19, 2013, 06:16:29 AM
Thanks mate!

Your addition is really appreciated!

Those 'll be the first planes I'll install as went back from holiday!

And since they haven't retractable landing gear they should fit all installation flawless!!!

All the very best!

walter
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Fresco23 on July 19, 2013, 06:55:49 AM
Really cool! I like that 2 engine one a lot! Thanks for these!
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Mad026 on July 19, 2013, 08:08:52 AM
hi magnificent work only one thig  ;D you left out the SM81 PXE's plane.ru  entry. :D
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Mission_bug on July 19, 2013, 08:14:54 AM
Superb set Dreamk, thank you very much for the aircraft and to Archie for the skins. 8)

These should get a fair amount of use, greatly appreciated. ;)

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on July 19, 2013, 08:49:57 AM
SM81PXE   Savoia Marchetti S.81 (Piaggio X Early), 1936

(it's the 4 blades version of the Piaggio engined SM81, as used in the Ethiopian campaign)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: DarkBlueBoy on July 19, 2013, 08:52:17 AM
I want to see the goat! :) Excellent work Dreamk. Thank you! :)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Mad026 on July 19, 2013, 09:08:50 AM
Thanks for the fast correction DreamK !!  :D
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: cgagan on July 19, 2013, 09:15:14 AM
Many thanks Dreamk and Archie, great addition to our game!
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on July 19, 2013, 09:32:04 AM
Thank you gentlemen! :)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: archie1971 on July 19, 2013, 09:55:26 AM
you guys have to wait to complete the SM 73 and SM 81 bis on Sunday ch it would have done
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: HotelAlpha on July 19, 2013, 10:20:24 AM
Awesome! My grandfather´s dreaded Savoia can be flown!  8)



A big Thank you from me.  :D
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Alfie Noakes on July 19, 2013, 10:47:29 AM
Superb piece of work Dreamk and Archie's skins are lovely  ;D
Everything works well......but I can't get the goat on the load out screen ???
Is it part of the Italian bombs mod  ie can you drop it at 1000m  :D

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: M0SCA on July 19, 2013, 12:14:55 PM
Excellent
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: SAS~Poltava on July 19, 2013, 12:16:54 PM
DreamK, you always comes through! You are a STAR. THANKS!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: David Prosser on July 19, 2013, 07:26:50 PM
Thanks, DreamK.

cheers

David
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: leperemagloire on July 20, 2013, 03:42:46 AM
Same problem for me on 4.101 with modact 2.7(with previous & last buttons 10.3)
F1M & Stanraer works
log.lst :

Code: [Select]
sFMDir = sm81ar_fm
s1 = flightmodels/sm81ar.fmd
s = FlightModels/SM81AR.fmd:SM81AR_FM
m_lastFMFile = f1m_fm
opening new fm file sm81ar_fm
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.clsBigArrestorPlane(AirportCarrier.java:540)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.isPlaneContainsArrestor(AirportCarrier.java:510)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:1483)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:1576)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:158)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:701)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:358)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:211)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:420)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
sFMDir = sm81gr_fm
s1 = flightmodels/sm81gr.fmd
s = FlightModels/SM81GR.fmd:SM81GR_FM
m_lastFMFile = sm81ar_fm
opening new fm file sm81gr_fm
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.clsBigArrestorPlane(AirportCarrier.java:540)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.isPlaneContainsArrestor(AirportCarrier.java:510)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:1483)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:1576)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:158)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:701)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:358)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:211)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:420)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
sFMDir = sm81px_fm
s1 = flightmodels/sm81px.fmd
s = FlightModels/SM81PX.fmd:SM81PX_FM
m_lastFMFile = sm81gr_fm
opening new fm file sm81px_fm
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.clsBigArrestorPlane(AirportCarrier.java:540)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.isPlaneContainsArrestor(AirportCarrier.java:510)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:1483)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:1576)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:158)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:701)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:358)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:211)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:420)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
sFMDir = sm81px_fm
s1 = flightmodels/sm81px.fmd
s = FlightModels/SM81PX.fmd:SM81PX_FM
m_lastFMFile = sm81px_fm
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.clsBigArrestorPlane(AirportCarrier.java:540)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.isPlaneContainsArrestor(AirportCarrier.java:510)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:1483)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:1576)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:158)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:701)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:358)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:211)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:420)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
sFMDir = sm81bis_fm
s1 = flightmodels/sm81bis.fmd
s = FlightModels/SM81Bis.fmd:SM81Bis_FM
m_lastFMFile = sm81px_fm
opening new fm file sm81bis_fm
sFMDir = sm81px_fm
s1 = flightmodels/sm81px.fmd
s = FlightModels/SM81PX.fmd:SM81PX_FM
m_lastFMFile = sm81bis_fm
getting fm file sm81px_fm
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.clsBigArrestorPlane(AirportCarrier.java:540)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.isPlaneContainsArrestor(AirportCarrier.java:510)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:1483)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:1576)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:158)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:701)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:358)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:211)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:420)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
sFMDir = sm81px_fm
s1 = flightmodels/sm81px.fmd
s = FlightModels/SM81PX.fmd:SM81PX_FM
m_lastFMFile = sm81px_fm
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.clsBigArrestorPlane(AirportCarrier.java:540)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.isPlaneContainsArrestor(AirportCarrier.java:510)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:1483)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:1576)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:158)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:701)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:358)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:211)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:420)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
sFMDir = sm81ar_fm
s1 = flightmodels/sm81ar.fmd
s = FlightModels/SM81AR.fmd:SM81AR_FM
m_lastFMFile = sm81px_fm
getting fm file sm81ar_fm
Main begin: null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick$ItemAir.<init>(GUIQuick.java:400)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:1480)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:1576)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:158)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:701)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:358)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:211)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:420)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
[20.07.2013 9:20:19] -------------- END log session -------------

Which version of diff_fm use ? ;)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: jantot on July 20, 2013, 04:34:22 AM
Many THANKS to DREAMK for this lovely and efficient italian bird.
it looks very nice with the pictures.
But i couldnt yet seen it, as for some other pilots, my game crashes at 60% !
i have HSHX-5-01 install, and of course updated italian bombs

Hope the 60% crash to be corrected soon !

jantot
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Epervier on July 20, 2013, 05:03:52 AM
Apparemment certains fichiers _FM sont codés pour 409/411 et d'autres pour 410 !

Apparently some _FM files are encoded for 409/411 and others for 410!
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Epervier on July 20, 2013, 06:46:33 AM
Try these FM for 410 !
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: leperemagloire on July 20, 2013, 09:31:44 AM
Cà marche  8)
Merci ,d'avoir bien voulu te pencher sur le 4.10 ;)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: archie1971 on July 20, 2013, 10:09:30 AM
HERE SAMPLE SM 73 still missing finish skins Belgian airlines

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img18/545/fgz8.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img690/9141/uzkj.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img823/6193/wlz9.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img853/9343/h7i.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img13/1087/klk9.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img39/8787/z1dm.jpg)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Joberg on July 20, 2013, 10:45:46 AM
Really cool planes and skins!
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: RealDarko on July 20, 2013, 11:00:02 AM
Archie, any chance of this skin into the civilian version? As China used the SM81 bombers I can well imagine this for their "airlines" too.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/5165_3_zps16a03a96.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/5165_2_a1_zps2d8a6d58.jpg)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on July 20, 2013, 11:44:27 AM
It's funny - all original FM ARE 4.10 but if the fix posted by Epervier works, it's all for the best  :)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: stanislao on July 20, 2013, 12:08:45 PM
 :)    :)    :D    :D 

Thank you so much dear SAS~Epervier.... If Dreamk is a true sculptor of aircraft you are our indispensable pillar! Now with your FM the game work !!

Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: archie1971 on July 20, 2013, 12:09:43 PM
hi
I do not know if I understand well, you want to do civil SM73 Chinese airlines? or vojencký military camouflage combat aircraft?
otherwise china used only SM-81 bis other state did not use it, but otherwise the Chinese airlines can do
Archie, any chance of this skin into the civilian version? As China used the SM81 bombers I can well imagine this for their "airlines" too.




hi
I do not know if I understand well, you want to do civil SM73 Chinese airlines? or vojencký military camouflage combat aircraft?
otherwise china used only SM-81 bis other state did not use it, but otherwise the Chinese airlines can do
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on July 20, 2013, 12:12:29 PM
German Lufthansa code miss a letter:

from D-BAB to D-ABAB

D = Germany
A = Plane class (C2 class = over 6 passengers , over 2500 Kgs , 2 or more engines)
BAB = plane registration code
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Sparviero on July 20, 2013, 12:17:31 PM

Summer is only beginning...... ;) :D ;D


What is mean? Others Italian planes ;D

(With the Epervier's FM it works in DBW, thanks!)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on July 20, 2013, 12:51:12 PM
Summer is only beginning...... ;) :D ;D
What is mean? Others Italian planes ;D
well .....what about other SCW planes?  ;)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img7/2770/v05c.jpg)(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img829/8982/2xtl.jpg)



Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Joberg on July 20, 2013, 01:03:00 PM
Cool! Somehow the stuka looks friendlier in those spanish colors! Its not of course lol
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: archie1971 on July 20, 2013, 01:27:45 PM
SM-73
I made a package histrických skin airlines
Czechoslovak-
  CSA - which used 6 machines
OK-BAB, BAC-OK, OK-BAD, BAE-OK, OK-BAF, OK-BAG-was destroyed in a crash
German-
LUFTHANSA-5 machines that used former CSA which came after the occupation of Czechoslovakia
for the Reconstruction of how they look, I did not find any photo
D-BAB D-BAC D-BAD, D-BAE, D-BAF
Italy-
ALA Littorio - I - PISA, I - NISA, a generic skin
Daley Machine Italian Air Force
Belgium-
SABENA - OO-AGO, AGE-OO, OO-AGL and one machine in the camouflage of the Belgian Air Force

SM-73
I made a package histrických skin airlines
Czechoslovak-
  CSA - which used 6 machines
OK-BAB, BAC-OK, OK-BAD, BAE-OK, OK-BAF, OK-BAG-was destroyed in a crash
German-
LUFTHANSA-5 machines that used former CSA which came after the occupation of Czechoslovakia
for the Reconstruction of how they look, I did not find any photo
D-BAB D-BAC D-BAD, D-BAE, D-BAF
Italy-
ALA Littorio - I - PISA, I - NISA, a generic skin
Daley Machine Italian Air Force
Belgium-
SABENA - OO-AGO, AGE-OO, OO-AGL and one machine in the camouflage of the Belgian Air Force

SM-73
I made a package histrických skin airlines
Czechoslovak-
  CSA - which used 6 machines
OK-BAB, BAC-OK, OK-BAD, BAE-OK, OK-BAF, OK-BAG-was destroyed in a crash
German-
LUFTHANSA-5 machines that used former CSA which came after the occupation of Czechoslovakia
for the Reconstruction of how they look, I did not find any photo
D-BAB D-BAC D-BAD, D-BAE, D-BAF
Italy-
ALA Littorio - I - PISA, I - NISA, a generic skin
Daley Machine Italian Air Force
Belgium-
SABENA - OO-AGO, AGE-OO, OO-AGL and one machine in the camouflage of the Belgian Air Force
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img27/7154/fovw.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img600/9830/qgio.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img832/3205/ycq7.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img706/2844/7p0g.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img18/545/fgz8.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img690/9141/uzkj.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img823/6193/wlz9.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img853/9343/h7i.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img13/1087/klk9.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img39/8787/z1dm.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img706/2844/7p0g.jpg)
 :) :) :) :) :) ;) :) :) :) ;) :) :) :)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on July 20, 2013, 02:03:12 PM
Really looking forward for the Anton!
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: jantot on July 20, 2013, 02:51:31 PM
Thanks to Epervier's FM, i have no more 60% CTD !
Now i can at least see the planes in QMB!
But after selection, game loading stops at 30% (Loading aircraft )
either game crashes and returns to windows,
or ctrl + alt + del necessary to end il2 process (most of times)

my instal is 4-101 with HSFX-5-01, and diff FM activated

has anyone any idea ???
thanks for help
jantot
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on July 20, 2013, 05:00:11 PM
Have you installed the new updated Italian bomb pack?
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Gumpy on July 20, 2013, 09:19:58 PM
Great mod Dreamk thanks.I have reverse prop rotation graphics on engine number 3 on all planes but the four bladed SM81PXE and the SM81Bis also on the SM73 the pilots heads almost stick out of the top of the plane.  (http://i39.tinypic.com/qzr68j.jpg) DBW 1.71
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Gumpy on July 21, 2013, 12:40:58 PM
(UPDATE) I thought maybe it might be a mod conflict so I renamed the SM81 folder so it would load first in my mods folder but,still get the same results. (http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/Bingo1957/Untitled-1_zpsfb628470.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/Bingo1957/media/Untitled-1_zpsfb628470.jpg.html) By reverse prop rotation graphics I don't mean the prop is spinning the wrong way I mean the prop seems to be on backwards not showing the white spinner hub when the engines are running.
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on July 21, 2013, 02:34:23 PM
no Gumpy, it's just an entry in the hier him I must change - I'll do it soon don't worry
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: jantot on July 21, 2013, 05:46:27 PM
Hello Dreamk

Yes i have installed new italian bombs (but i've tried with old italian pack too) and Epervier's FM
(i get 60 % CTD if not using Epervier's FM)
i always get 30% freeze when loading aircraft from the QMB, whatever aiircraft is loaded (SM-81 family itself, but other aircraft too ! : italian, japanese, ...)

if i remove SM-81, everything back in order: other aircrafts load normally !

There seems to be something in SM-81 files in conflict with other planes . (??)

my install: 4-101 / HSFX-5-1 / diff FM activated

Could it be a HSFX problem ???

Thanks for help !
jantot



Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Gumpy on July 21, 2013, 06:01:52 PM
no Gumpy, it's just an entry in the hier him I must change - I'll do it soon don't worry
Cool!   8)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on July 22, 2013, 12:48:32 AM
Jantot, what do is written in your log?
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: SAS~Poltava on July 22, 2013, 01:11:23 AM
Summer is only beginning...... ;) :D ;D
What is mean? Others Italian planes ;D
well .....what about other SCW planes?  ;)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img7/2770/v05c.jpg)(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img829/8982/2xtl.jpg)

Oooooooooh! Looks like I will soon have to build more SCW campaigns. And update "IL-2 SCW". DreamK - YOU RULE!  :P
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: jantot on July 22, 2013, 02:50:34 AM
Hello Dreamk

i dont even get eventlog.lst during the HSFX crash !
When game crashes at 30% aircraft loading, game freezes and i have to ctrl-alt-del to recover windows
i get following windows error, but i dont think it can help:
Signature du problème :
  Nom d’événement de problème:   APPCRASH
  Nom de l’application:   il2fb.exe
  Version de l’application:   3.0.6.4
  Horodatage de l’application:   44fe754b
  Nom du module par défaut:   Opengl32.dll
  Version du module par défaut:   6.1.7600.16385
  Horodateur du module par défaut:   4a5bdadb
  Code de l’exception:   c0000005
  Décalage de l’exception:   0000416c
  Version du système:   6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
  Identificateur de paramètres régionaux:   1036
  Information supplémentaire n° 1:   0a9e
  Information supplémentaire n° 2:   0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
  Information supplémentaire n° 3:   0a9e
  Information supplémentaire n° 4:   0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

 But i found that SM-81 pack works with my other il2-1936 UP3 install, with not even the need to use Eperviers FM !
it works with my UP3 install in the way you uploaded it !
(so i can at least fly with your nice italian birds in spanish skies !)

So i really dont understand what's wrong between HSFX-5-01 / v4-10-1 and SM-81 !
Really strange this freeze with every other aircraft, and not only SM-81 !
i woud really be interested to know if someone succeded with HSFX !
Thanks for your help anyway, Dreamk, and for your nice planes !
jantot
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: stanislao on July 22, 2013, 12:53:22 PM
 :(     ???   

For me it is the same thing ... 30% loading in the FMB and then everything stops and crashes, I am still confident that i will can fly with this beauty... sooner or later ..

Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on July 22, 2013, 01:33:19 PM
Stanislao, look at these threads :
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,19028.msg204767.html#msg204767
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=19361.0
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,8588.msg91355.html#msg91355
and above all:
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,19036.msg204863.html#msg204863

- I would recommand installing Epervier FM fix and then the DiffFM dated 24 Dec 2010
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Gumpy on July 22, 2013, 10:22:31 PM
Hopefully you'll inform us when the updated heir HIM files have been uploaded.  ;)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on July 23, 2013, 12:34:27 AM
The problem is not a reverted propeller but a mesh with strange visual effects under some angles - 2 solutions:
1) either modifying the hier.him (of all planes except SM81bis and SM81PXE) entry for
[PropRot3_D0]
by changing the line
Mesh PropRotS3_D0
with the line
Mesh PropRotS2_D0
2) or more simply:
to copy the file PropRotS2_D0.msh in a temporary folder, rename it PropRotS3_D0.msh and copy it over the current PropRotS3_D0.msh file in your Plane/Sm81 directory


Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: stanislao on July 23, 2013, 11:16:39 AM
 :)    :(   

Dreamk, Thanks for the reply, I use DiffFM_410 of 25-12-2010 but not the "epelvier fix mod" .... where I can find it?

Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Mick on July 23, 2013, 11:50:25 AM

... just here Stanislao :

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,35900.24.html
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: tooslow on July 24, 2013, 11:17:29 PM
This is really a great addition to IL2, but ...

In the QMB I was attacking some formations and I found that the S.81 seemed to be a very tough bird to shoot down   So I decided to test it.  I attacked one flight of four “Savoia Marchetti S.81 (Alfa Romeo 125), 1936” using a series of different Hurricanes.  I set the S.81 to “Rookie” and the loadout was “none”.  I found the results rather surprising.

Aircraft – weapons – number of hits vs number of rounds fired – Hit per cent – Results
Hurricane I (early) – 8 x .303’s  - 1,343 vs 2,700 –  49% - 1 shot down & 1 run out of fuel (fuel leaks)
Hurricane IIb – 12 x .303’s -  1,800 vs  4,000 – 45% - 2 shot down
Hurricane IIc – 4 x 20mm’s – 192 vs 364 – 52% - 2 shot down
Belgium Hurricane – 4 x 12.7’s – 704 vs 1600 – 44% - 1 shot down
Hurricane IV – 2 X 40mm (explosive rounds) – 18 vs 22 – 81% - 4 shot down
Hurricane II Field Mod – 4 X 20mm ShVAK – 358 vs 680 – 52% - 3 shot down

Also of note was that every S.81 shot down lost the rear Fuselage  before the crew began bailing out … then the S.81 would slowly head down.

By the way I was able to shot down 4 Fiat Br 20’s using the Hurricane I (early) and I had ammo left over.

Also I found the S.79 much easier to shot down than the S.81 … maybe  the damage model for the S.81 should be revisited.
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Stefan SG on July 25, 2013, 12:27:38 AM
This mod works good in 4.12 ModAct 5.11, but AI gunners shoot rarely or generally don't shoot.
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on July 25, 2013, 01:01:57 AM
The remarks on the damage model are interesting. If you compare the fmd files of the SM81, Br20 and SM79, you'll see that The fuselage and nose of the Br20 are slightly more resistant than those of the SM 81, though the wings of the 81 are slightly more resistant of those of teh Br20. The difference in vulnerability btween these 2 planes are therefore much more related to the location of the damage collision boxes in the fuselage and wings (fuel tanks for instance) and I am far for sure that the Br20 was tougher than the SM81 (a very rough plane devised for operating in bad environment) in front of enemy fire. Remember that the Japanes, who used the plane, complained about its vulnerability and propension to take fire when shoot at (and this from users whose local produced planes had themselves a well deserved reputation of being "flying lighters"). So the debate remains open...
For the SM79 this is a quite different story - the original fmd of the SM79 is quite exceptional, probably the toughest plane in this game according to its fmd files parameters, much over the level of the Br20 and Sm81 parameters (almost 5-8 times over) - and it's right too, the construction design of this plane made it very difficult to shoot down - and when the plane appeared in this game, there were complaints that this aircraft was "almost impossible to shoot down" with small caliber weapons ( although this was conform to historical reality).
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Alfie Noakes on July 25, 2013, 02:13:03 AM
Thank you DreamK for making my day.....
As a SCW nut I don't know how many HOURS I've spent trying to shoot down SM79's (and recently SM81's) with tip6 and tip 10 I-16's  :(
Now I know it's due to their RHINO like fmd files rather than my usual ineptitude & inaccuracy  :D

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: tooslow on July 25, 2013, 12:36:38 PM
One additional note is that my firing position for Br20, SM79 and SM81 in my test were directly from the six position.  Maybe the results would be different if I was shooting from the side or the nose ... I'll have to revisit this test and try other attack positions    Please note that regarding the small caliber guns even the 4 20mm in the IIc had trouble bringing down the SM81, but the 4 ShVAK's were much more effective.  Also the 4 12.7's in the Belgium Hurricane werr not very effective either.

I'm heading out of town for the week end so I'll have to try this out next week.

Please don't take my remarks as criticism, but as possible suggestions for improvements ... I really love the work you have done and believe all of us "IL2er's" have been greatly blessed by your work!!!    THANK YOU!!!

Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: archie1971 on July 27, 2013, 01:04:13 PM
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img692/2126/9mad.jpg)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Tofolo on July 27, 2013, 01:08:42 PM
Thanks for the skins, Archie.

The OO-AGE is a nice Tintin reference  ;D

(http://richard.ferriere.free.fr/tintin/sceptre/sm73francfort.jpg)
(http://richard.ferriere.free.fr/tintin/sceptre/sceptre_2.jpg)
Copyright Hergé/Moulinsart
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: gianluca on August 04, 2013, 04:32:14 AM
The remarks on the damage model are interesting. If you compare the fmd files of the SM81, Br20 and SM79, you'll see that The fuselage and nose of the Br20 are slightly more resistant than those of the SM 81, though the wings of the 81 are slightly more resistant of those of teh Br20. The difference in vulnerability btween these 2 planes are therefore much more related to the location of the damage collision boxes in the fuselage and wings (fuel tanks for instance) and I am far for sure that the Br20 was tougher than the SM81 (a very rough plane devised for operating in bad environment) in front of enemy fire. Remember that the Japanes, who used the plane, complained about its vulnerability and propension to take fire when shoot at (and this from users whose local produced planes had themselves a well deserved reputation of being "flying lighters"). So the debate remains open...
For the SM79 this is a quite different story - the original fmd of the SM79 is quite exceptional, probably the toughest plane in this game according to its fmd files parameters, much over the level of the Br20 and Sm81 parameters (almost 5-8 times over) - and it's right too, the construction design of this plane made it very difficult to shoot down - and when the plane appeared in this game, there were complaints that this aircraft was "almost impossible to shoot down" with small caliber weapons ( although this was conform to historical reality).

hi DreamK and first of all thks a lot for this superb bunch of italian planes from a forgotten era nevertheless so important for aviation history!
regrading damage model I can bring here my contribution to your attention: tried with 7.7 guns and 20mm cabbons to bring a SM-73 down (unlimited ammo allowed) but there are no sign of damage model. You see small pieces flying off and then, after some thousand bullets the airplane slowly goes down without trailing smoke or something else until it finally touches the ground and explodes without leaving debris of any sort. With the cannon shells , here also a thousand, no apparent damage (other than smaller debris, or smokes) until it suddenly explodes mid air.
I don't know if this is a bug in my install, or if the AM-81 als has the same problems just wanted to report this and hope, if this is a bug of course, you'll have the time one day to solve it.

Once more time a big thanks and best regards!

Gianluca
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on August 04, 2013, 05:24:02 AM
Well, as can be seen by looking at the msh file all these planes have the same collision boxes - and the corresponding damage model si defined in the same mother class SM81x - this damage model is copied on the SM79 damage model - what can be a possible explanation is that the parameters for xxarmor are too high.  Here's a file with modified armor parameters, copy it file in your SM81 directory (after renaming and saving the original one), test it and tell us about it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?4768q459lzwv2dk
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: gianluca on August 04, 2013, 10:42:47 AM
Thks DreamK, will do!
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: gianluca on August 06, 2013, 11:09:00 AM
Hi DreamK, did try your fix, I have however this problem now:
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img823/346/h1pr.jpg) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/download/823/h1pr.jpg)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

Once hit (20mm cannons) either the aft half of the fuselage or the outside part of the wings beyond the motor nacellles simply disappear.
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on August 06, 2013, 11:32:46 AM
For some reason the game is not reading the Tail1_CAP section of the hier.him - try adding the word "separable" in this entry of the hier.him: (note that for some versions, the mesh file is  tail2_CAP instead of Tail1_Cap). Hope it wil, help. CAP meshes often pl;ay this kind of trick - we add a full discussion with Epervier on that and we are still learning.... :(

[Tail1_CAP]
Mesh Tail1_CAP
Parent CF_D0
Hidden
Attaching 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000

so as to get

[Tail1_CAP]
Mesh Tail1_CAP
Parent CF_D0
Separable
Hidden
Attaching 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: archie1971 on August 06, 2013, 12:09:42 PM
 SM81 BIS PACKAGE Skins Italian and Chinese
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img191/8760/ypts.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img191/7686/hcwg.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img818/1189/jt1r.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img835/5304/zcjl.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img11/290/bcz8.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img268/2741/d65t.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img689/3016/hy01.jpg)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img441/364/azpv.jpg)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on August 06, 2013, 12:56:28 PM
to display the wonderful work of Archie on the Sm81bis you'll need to install first this small update:
http://www.mediafire.com/?7317663n77g4dac
open the archive and copy the files in your folder
SM81\3Do\Plane\SM81
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: gianluca on August 07, 2013, 05:42:19 AM
Hi DreamK, no way: try on the SM-73 only (so I modified her hier only) but still getting the same prob. One funny thing, when it tpiuches the ground and explodes disappearing what remain, bouncing on the ground, is the pilot!
Anyway, thks for the very nice models and take all your time to improve it whenever you'll have the time.

Best regards,

Gianluca
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Vitamine! on August 17, 2013, 03:14:28 AM
Confirmed

I corrected all hier.hims of this package, all CAP-entries with the missing "separable", but the problem persists.

There is a second bug, too: This planes never smoke and never burn.

Here some impressions of the disappearing mesh bug :

right landing gear disappeared after hard touchdown:
(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u669/dumpti/86ac3a9a-c183-4dcd-9e05-07ffe7f2f958_zpse526121f.jpg) (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/dumpti/media/86ac3a9a-c183-4dcd-9e05-07ffe7f2f958_zpse526121f.jpg.html)

left wing disappeared after heavy shooting
(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u669/dumpti/8bd167ea-89cc-40e4-819c-f845bbc1e0d3_zps8ce6ea48.jpg) (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/dumpti/media/8bd167ea-89cc-40e4-819c-f845bbc1e0d3_zps8ce6ea48.jpg.html)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on August 17, 2013, 11:37:34 AM
Quote
right landing gear disappeared after hard touchdown
......it is supposed to be so - the gear was torn away in such harsh meetings with the ground.
Fire and smoke, well I'll get another look at it - I think more and more that it was a mistake to have taken the SM79 damage model a a basios for this mod. I'd have better done adapting the Potez 540 damage model - and maybe I'm goning to do this.....
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Vitamine! on August 17, 2013, 01:30:32 PM
Quote
......it is supposed to be so - the gear was torn away in such harsh meetings with the ground.

I am a littel pedantic  8) and I will never steal your time (I hope so  ;D ) with speculations. I followed the plane with the landing gear issue pedanticely and I can say to you: It was not ripped away because of the hard touch down, it just disappear (by hitting the ground hard), like the tail and wing. First I thought about to mention this case (that the landing gear really just disappear and not ripped away) in my posting above, but I decided, not to mention it.

Your consideration sounds really interesting. I am still a full noob of something like that (damage models) but maybe, it will be better to take the damage model of the Junkers Ju 52 ? Because of this models have pretty similar appearance. So, this will be my noobish imagination for changing the damage model?  :-X

PS: I can say something more about the "none smoking" and "none fire" bug: If the plane crashes onto the ground, fire and smoke of the impact is visible. But when damaged some meshes at the air, maybe through gun fire, there never appeares smoke or fire.

Hope, this can help. :)
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on August 17, 2013, 02:22:30 PM
Well in air, smoke and fire will occur only when the engines are hit, and if the bombs are hit then the plane will explode - but when hitting other meshes you'll get only bullet holes and such, or parts flying away if explosive projectiles are employed
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Vitamine! on August 17, 2013, 02:53:19 PM
Quote
smoke and fire will occur only when the engines are hit

;D This I know, SO noobish I am not. The AI aims mainly the engine and while at other planes smoke and/or fire occures, here you can't watch it. When you (all) play this plane? Who of you saw smoke or fire? I can fly and fly an airfight with it, they never smokes or catching fire. And they are very hard to shoot down. Four SM 79 or four CANT 1007 are shot down by four "Spitfire Mk V early" in one minute.
Four SM 81 are hard to knock off the air. Spitfires (MK V early) needs the most of their amunition (ace AI) and five minutes or longer to bring them down (without any smoke or fire while the other mentioned models catch immediately smoke and fire or break into peaces by the Spits canons).
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Dreamk on August 18, 2013, 12:33:30 AM
Ok - Problem solved - the issue was with teh caps meshes (it appears that they must not include any hooks or collision, if not they hamper the activation of teh damage model). Simialrly the new hier him enable activation of teh cap files (fopr teh record, the separable must be added to the D1, D2, D3 entries, NOT to the Cap mesh entry).
I added a modified java file (optional) for those who consider thsi aircarft to resistant to small caliber hits. I tested it with I15M22, I16type 10, PZL24F and Bf109B2 - The plane can be shot down quiet fast by all these planes - as usual with bombers, attacking by the rear focusing on the fuselage and killing the crews is recommended tactic (RAF dixit).
Update 2: revised damage model
Optional java:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9arc60rghwqy3jf
AND
Edited CAP meshes and hier him (and enhanced WingLin and WingRIn meshes)
http://www.mediafire.com/?6y7nn50h2bp5auu
The new java file is optional (more vulnerable to small caliber hits) but the reworked CAPS files, the edited Hier.him files and the new wingroots meshes are essential to get all the damage model effects)

Itested it with I15M22, I16type 10, PZL24F and Bf109B2 - The plane can be shot down in reasonable time by all these planes - as usual with bombers, attacking by the rear focusing on the fuselage and killing the crews is recommended tactic (RAF dixit).
Title: Re: SM81 pack Ready to DL - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73
Post by: Vitamine! on August 18, 2013, 03:52:46 AM
wow ... thank you very much for so quick solutions! :) I will put it ingame immediately. Thank you, buddy!

Quote from: dreamk
for the record, the separable must be added to the D1, D2, D3 entries, NOT to the Cap mesh entry

Thank you for your helping advise! :)

PS: Now the model works nearly perfect! Thank you very much! The additional java file is not required (my opinion ^^), because of this corrected CAP_meshes and hier.hims, is the damage behavior realistic (they smoke and burn, meshes "break" and fly away and don't simply disappear and the aircraft resistance is realistic without optional java file).

Now, there resists only one minor bug: When the aileron breaks of, a "mirrored" mesh of the wing without aileron flies away instead of the aileron itself. This is the case of the rear ailerons, too. (But if the whole wing breaks of, all seem to be okay).

(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u669/dumpti/8bb91829-0a58-49a4-a88b-06526132099d_zps3b673c83.jpg) (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/dumpti/media/8bb91829-0a58-49a4-a88b-06526132099d_zps3b673c83.jpg.html)

(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u669/dumpti/4969c7e8-e708-41f2-bcb9-b2419780e833_zpsdd432f2b.jpg) (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/dumpti/media/4969c7e8-e708-41f2-bcb9-b2419780e833_zpsdd432f2b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2 [4.09]
Post by: Epervier on August 28, 2013, 07:38:35 AM
For 4.09 Rebels !

- Install the Italian weapons,
- Install the 410 version of the Mod,
- Remove all Class files and external FM,
- Copy the files from the archive _409 in the main folder of the Mod.

http://www.mediafire.com/?r12bfcfwyj96l7p

Nota : loadouts "supply sack", goat and "fuel drum" removed ! Not compatible 409 !
These loadouts were replaced by "cargo box of 70kg" !
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Mick on August 28, 2013, 09:59:17 AM
... you said you wouldn't, but I knew you somehow would ... :-\

Thank you my friend ...!!  :P

EDIT:

... may be it is just me but I have a small bug with N°3 engine prophub on several SM81s, which is not the same as the 2 other ones ...

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g157/micksaf/SM81-prophubbug_zps263ac821.jpg) (http://s55.photobucket.com/user/micksaf/media/SM81-prophubbug_zps263ac821.jpg.html)

EDIT:

... I guees it is not just me ...  :-[

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,35900.msg394439.html#msg394439
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Dreamk on August 28, 2013, 12:29:53 PM
Mick Hi! Install all the updates from the first posts - one of them (don't remember which one) corrected this bug - it's simply an inversion of the PropRot3_D0 mesh.
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Mick on August 28, 2013, 01:46:17 PM
... THX DreamK, that's what I did, right from the start ... but to no avail ...  :'(

... besides I couldn't find anything PropRot3_D0 mesh related in the fixes you posted on page 1 ...  :(

I am using Epervier's 4.09m conversion, but since he didn't modify the 3Do folder (there isn't any in his pack) then this small bug should be found in the 4.10 version ...
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Epervier on August 28, 2013, 01:57:18 PM
... THX DreamK, that's what I did, right from the start ... but to no avail ... 
Ouais ! Pareil ! Je ne vois rien qui concerne le proprotmachin !
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Dreamk on August 28, 2013, 02:25:15 PM
Well - I knew I fixed that at some time - just got lazy to upload a fix and simply wrote how to do it in a former post in this thread  8)
This fix works for all the sm81 versions (except of course the SM81bis)  :)

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,35900.msg393428.html#msg393428

Quote
The problem is not a reverted propeller but a mesh with strange visual effects under some angles - 2 solutions:
1) either modifying the hier.him (of all planes except SM81bis and SM81PXE) entry for
[PropRot3_D0]
by changing the line
Mesh PropRotS3_D0
with the line
Mesh PropRotS2_D0
2) or more simply:
to copy the file PropRotS2_D0.msh in a temporary folder, rename it PropRotS3_D0.msh and copy it over the current PropRotS3_D0.msh file in your Plane/Sm81 directory

Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Epervier on August 28, 2013, 03:07:43 PM
Ah ben oui mais si tu l'écris en britonnien comment veux-tu que je comprenne !  :D
Thank you !
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Mick on August 28, 2013, 03:22:08 PM
Merci DreamK, tu devrais peut être le rajouter avec les autres fixes en 1ère page, car là il est perdu au beau milieu du topic ...  ;)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: 4S_Vega on December 08, 2013, 10:01:25 AM
Hi!

first of all tnx for this mod!

after test i had to tell you that these planes are very good but too much faster, and when i tell you too much i mean 80 km/h faster

if you want i can fix this behaviour but i need filelist names of .fmd and .emd files
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Dreamk on December 08, 2013, 11:40:21 AM
Please do  :)
SM81AR.fmd
SM81GR.fmd
SM81PX.fmd
SM81bis.fmd
Alfa_126.emd
Isotta-Fraschini_Asso.emd
Gnome-Rhone_14K.emd
Gnome-Rhone_9K.emd
Note that the input data are historical and must be kept as such - what need to be worked at are the polares and wing profile data - I took them from other planes although they indeed need to be tailor-made....
Thanks for the help  :)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: 4S_Vega on December 09, 2013, 05:26:53 AM
i think the only problem is aerodynamic ;)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: 4S_Vega on December 10, 2013, 03:45:57 AM
ok, project is in my wip list

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,27908.276.html

first i had to convert my game to 4.12.2
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: max_thehitman on December 10, 2013, 05:19:06 AM

Thank you for the new updated aircraft DreamK.
 Gracie!

Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: 4S_Vega on December 28, 2013, 09:34:18 AM
Please do  :)
SM81AR.fmd
SM81GR.fmd
SM81PX.fmd
SM81bis.fmd
Alfa_126.emd
Isotta-Fraschini_Asso.emd
Gnome-Rhone_14K.emd
Gnome-Rhone_9K.emd
Note that the input data are historical and must be kept as such - what need to be worked at are the polares and wing profile data - I took them from other planes although they indeed need to be tailor-made....
Thanks for the help  :)

hi Dreamk, I would like to ask you a favor if possible

all planes have a different FM file....this would involve a lot of work to change the flight models

you can combine them into a single FM file?
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Dreamk on December 28, 2013, 10:09:40 PM
The only difference between the FM files is the engines -thence, except the [Engine] section lines, the fmd lines are identical - so it will be enough to write the aerodynamic flight model for a single plane and then copy it to the other fmds. The problem begins with testing this aerodynamic model with the various engines - the result being the flightmodel of the different planes - in practice 4 flight-models as we have 4 different engine possibilities.
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: 4S_Vega on December 29, 2013, 10:07:30 AM
ah.....i don't mean that

i mean that i've problems to decompile one to one, it need more time for me, but i've an idea

send me (in pvt message) all FM files already decompiled in a file rar, i will modify planes classfile for a single FM file ;)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Dreamk on December 29, 2013, 01:36:53 PM
no problem - I sent it to you - check your PM
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: 4S_Vega on January 01, 2014, 09:32:10 AM
new SM-81 Flight Model avaliable in my workshop! enjoy!

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,27908.0.html
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on January 02, 2014, 04:39:34 AM
Thanks mate!

I'll give it a try asap....I was rebuilng all my air.ini files due data lost....
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: oldschoolie on March 28, 2014, 07:06:35 AM
I have an odd problem in that they work perfectly as AI, but when I try to fly one myself I suffer the dreaded "no cockpit" problem on launch, although the a/c appear normally in the mission builder. Any ideas gratefully received as these are beautiful bits of work.
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: JG13~Wulf on April 10, 2014, 12:23:45 PM
Hello, my English is not perfect so i hope tou can understand what a want to say :P
I just downloaded the plane and tested it. After reading all the message in this topic, I was able to correct some little bug (like the propeler one).
But I have noticed another one (i think):

When i come to attack one of the SM 81, there are only the lateral gunner that shoot. The other are not looking to me. They seem to turn in the wrong direction to protect their plane.

But except that, it's a really nice plane :) Thanks for puting it in the game :D
Again, sorry for bad English :P
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: David Prosser on April 10, 2014, 04:59:38 PM
Your message was easy to understand.
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: JG13~Wulf on April 11, 2014, 03:59:48 AM
Ok thanks :D
I prefer to say that i don't have a perfect English because one time i wrote something about another mod and apparently it was not clear :P People thought i said it was a "stupid" mods but i wanted to say that there was bug :P

Thank you :)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: slejsa on June 15, 2014, 02:37:01 PM
I have a similar problem as BJ-Bomber. Does anyone have any solution? :)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Dreamk on June 16, 2014, 01:13:48 AM
The bug origin has been identified - it is due to the fact that the turrets of the planes, when deploying, rotate by an angle of 90 degrees from their initial retracted position - for some reason the game "reminds" the initial rotation and therefore calculates the shooting angles with a 90 degrees mistake - this will be easily corrected (but at a price - suppressing the initial rotation of the turrets which was one of the historical characteristics of this aircraft, a way to reduce the drag due to the machine guns) - I''ll update a fix later - I am currently busy finishing something else.
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Fresco23 on June 16, 2014, 02:11:16 AM
just an idea, so tell me if i'm wrong, but based on your description, couldn't you simply input the shooting angle 90 degrees off in the first place?? thus making it correct when fired in game??
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Dreamk on June 16, 2014, 02:27:16 AM
I tried - it didn't work - the game engine has still some undisclosed idiosyncrasies.....
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on October 04, 2014, 04:01:50 PM
Hi!

Any news about updating this great series of birds for 412?

Finger crossed!
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: barber on October 05, 2014, 09:45:12 AM
https://www.mediafire.com/?vj6z5qqlg9k7dam

Hi Whiskey_ Sierra

Try the above line, you can find it on Vega`s page and there is
the FM for 412.

Cheers
Barber
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: SAS~Gerax on October 05, 2014, 09:55:16 AM
on Vega`s page

do you have a link please?
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: barber on October 05, 2014, 10:38:58 AM
SAS~Gerax

Link above,please.

Cheers
Barber
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: SAS~Gerax on October 05, 2014, 11:10:28 AM
I mean't "Vegas page". Does he have a page?
and when, do you have a link?
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: barber on October 05, 2014, 11:46:49 AM
[https://www.mediafire.com/?vj6z5qqlg9k7dam]

There you can get a new FM for 412 and it works fine in my game at least.
"Vega`s page" was meant to be his post, sorry!

Cheers
Barber

Title: SM.81 Pack for 4.12 [4.12]
Post by: Stefan SG on December 06, 2014, 05:47:55 AM
The proposed mod is a a revised for 4.12.2 replica of superb SM.81 Pack of Dreamk with working in 4.12 bombing sight and revised armament.
Bombs (50kg/100kg/250kg/500kg) are replaced with default Italian bombs of IL-2 4.12.  Installation of SAS Arms30_italian_Bombs Mod is not needed for this mod.

The pack contains six planes (SM.73, SM.81AR, SM.81GR, SM.81PXE, SM.81PX, SM.81T). I hope to add SM.81bis soon.

(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p172/StefanSG/2014-12-06at12-42-22_zpsca5c095d.jpg) (http://s128.photobucket.com/user/StefanSG/media/2014-12-06at12-42-22_zpsca5c095d.jpg.html)

http://www.mediafire.com/download/cdkz224wnew4ngx/plane_SM.81_4.12_v1.1.zip

Credits:
- Dreamk for the original mod of SM.81
- Agracier for default template
- Archie for skins
- 4S_Vega for new FM
- zip_comic1 for gunners fix
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: cgagan on December 06, 2014, 07:27:18 AM
Many thanks Stefan and everyone involved! 8)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Stefan SG on December 06, 2014, 07:41:05 AM
Thank You, Dear cgagan!
Pls find updated one, which includes also SM.81T.
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,35900.msg491778.html#msg491778

Stefan

Many thanks Stefan and everyone involved! 8)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Dreamk on December 06, 2014, 08:48:28 AM
The fix for the turrets tracking is a great thing! thank you!  :)
But Stefan, allow me to disagree (for once, as your additions to my mods are generally real improvements) with using the 4.12 Italian bombs   :-X - they are not historically correct! (and, BTW, they include only 5 kind of bombs instead of the whole very extended range of bombs that Italian planes indeed used, above all in Spain and Eastern Africa).
It's why I took the pain to make new bombs (3d AND java parameters) after checking the original sources for historical data
What is still lacking presently in the new Italian bombs is the fuze data, and this will be included in the coming update.
Air Dropped Ordnance is very badly modeled in 4.12 and I have made quite a number of posts on this issue - I know I am touchy about this matter, but having dealt with explosives and terminal ballistics in real life for a number of years, this has left its traces  ;)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Stefan SG on December 06, 2014, 10:05:24 AM
Dear Dreamk,

Thank You for Yr kind reply. To be frank I always prefer default weapon of Il-2. But You did really great job with Italian bombs and I think that many users agree with You.
So, if it is needed to get back Italian bombs mod pls install this mod. 

http://www.mediafire.com/download/32ozaq2gyw0dvu7/SM.81_412.zip

It includes SM.81 pack for 4.12 with Dreamk's Italian bombs and also contains a folder with classfiles replacing them with IL-2's Italian bombs

Stefan
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Dreamk on December 06, 2014, 12:36:29 PM
Stefan Hi!
Yes, the best is indeed to propose 2 versions of your improvements - one with full span of "new" weapons and one with the weapons included in the basic game install.
Thanks for your help in improving these mods.  :)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Stefan SG on December 06, 2014, 01:22:30 PM
Thank You for good words, Dear Dreamk. Let me thank You for the excellent SM.81 Pack, which was really longtime awaited.
As for me it is difficult to play SCW missions without "Pipistrello".
And of course many thanks to zip_comic1, who found solution of turret problems and Vega for 4.12 FM for these birds.

Stefan
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Mopat on December 15, 2014, 12:18:45 AM
Guys, great AC! I have also 4.10 field mod in UP3RC4 install and 4.12 variant in my TFM412 install. One with italian bombs and one with default...Thanks to every modder who made this AC.  Personally like the gama 8) Why the gama? Why not pony, horse, donkey, mule...its a kind of historical loadout? Or this is an adult male gama, so in case of attack he is spitting enemy planes :P more effective than a rookie or avarege machine gunner, and could guarding the cargo parachutes even in mid-air. So attacking parachute cargo are not recommended ;D
Also found an interesting bug(?) When in 4.12 TFM i am attacking an SM.81 PX with missiles(R-60, Aim-9D, K-13, with diffenrent planes, like Mig-17F and 21 Bis, F-8E, F-4E and Mi-24...)and two missiles hit the poor SM.81. After the first hit, cargo starting to drop, and crewmenbers are starting to bailout. After another hit, plane are exploded, but the 3 flaming engines and 3 sitting crewmembers are falling together. Retaining their original locations, positions, and falling into water. Ever started to some hop-hop over the waves :
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: Mopat on December 15, 2014, 11:57:15 PM
Have a nice day!
After 2 hours of testing, to "integrate" missiles into these poor trimotors, using different launching platforms, even FFR-41 hypersonic figters, every kind of migs, Phantoms etc, the mentioned problems are not seeing. Different subtype SM-81s are loosing one wing, both wing, aft fuselage, collide with own 2kg bomblets, fuel tanks are in flames or simply the whole AC are disintegrated...
Maybe a personal imagination ;D
Because we are very short in axis transports(or transports at overall)this multi-function planes are very welcome...also have a lot of skins!!! THX
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: SAS~Storebror on December 16, 2014, 05:55:00 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/7VgAoB8.jpg)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: SAS~Gerax on December 16, 2014, 06:07:01 AM
I like this.  :)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: SAS~Monty27 on December 17, 2014, 04:23:44 PM
Thanks Dreamk and assistants; Agracier, Archie, 4S_Vega and zip_comic1

Thank you Stefan SG for another brilliant 412 conversion, what a team!  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: kfx on May 01, 2015, 11:31:19 AM
Thanks for you time and effort, this will be a nice add-on for the overlooked El Alamein map.
Which also begs the question....has anyone populated IB_Desert?
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: SAS~Gerax on May 09, 2015, 07:17:35 PM
Restore of the deleted SM81 AR GR PX FieldMod ver2
by zip_Comic1 aka Flyer101 aka JoHNy_SpRoCK-X:

Orig post by zip_Comic 4-Dec-2014:
Quote
I was not getting the turrets tracking in 4.10.

I field modded the AR Gr and Px..........and modified Archies skins abit

I will link for those who would like to try.........I am calling it SM81 AR GR PX Field Mod ver2

Works for me under;

4.101m Mega Patch
SAS Mod ACt3.06
SAS Buttons 4.10 Offilne
SAS AutoDiff 4.111
SAS Arms30_italian_Bombs Mod

Link:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/gp3aa45603puvdd/SM81_AR_GR_PX_Field_Mod_ver2.7z

For questions, help requests contact via PM:

Flyer101 (aka zip_Comic1) (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?action=profile;u=24488)

or (new account of zip_Comic1 aka Flyer101):

JoHNy_SpRoCK-X (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?action=profile;u=25271).
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 22, 2015, 02:33:20 AM
hi guys - just arrived at this thread, late as usual, and just want to clarify what i need to d/l among the patches and updates in the thread.
i'm on a modact 539 install, so is it safe for me to assume i can safely ignore the links of the first post, and only need to use the 412 versions linked by Stefan?
in other words, this: http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,35900.msg491778.html#msg491778
and, if i want the new Italian bombs,
this: http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,35900.msg491813.html#msg491813
would be all i need, correct?
  :D

Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 22, 2015, 04:09:35 AM
actually, i only needed the second of those links.
all good, great looking planes, big thanks! :D
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2 [4.10] [4.12]
Post by: 6S.Maraz on June 25, 2016, 04:21:39 AM
Hello, I would like to do some small improvements to this model, so I am asking whether the original author is willing to give me max files and export files.
Bye
Maraz
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2 [4.10] [4.12]
Post by: Dreamk on June 25, 2016, 12:03:44 PM
No problem I can send you the original max9 files - send me you mail address by PM
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2 [4.10] [4.12]
Post by: max_thehitman on June 28, 2016, 03:45:56 AM

These are great aircraft, I have them in my DBW-410 game. Love to fly them all.
It would be nice to see some further development in the 3d-modeling. Specially the
interior nose areas and cockpit - as seen from the outside.
I had started on some new skin-templates but have stopped until further development
could be made.
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2 [4.10] [4.12]
Post by: ROMULO on February 22, 2017, 10:09:42 AM

Works :) 4.13.2 sas modatc 6.2. :D thank you very much
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2 [4.10] [4.12]
Post by: Stefano on February 24, 2017, 02:38:52 PM
SAS Modact 6.3 for IL-2 4.13.3m (http://www.sas1946.com/main/Themes/core/images/post/thumbup.gif)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2 [4.10] [4.12]
Post by: sosezi on January 06, 2019, 05:14:54 PM
 :) :) :) :) :) No Comments~ SWEET!
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2 [4.10] [4.12]
Post by: proweather on January 20, 2019, 04:23:13 PM
This aircraft only has two engines. Why is it not in Twins?
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2 [4.10] [4.12]
Post by: PhantomII on January 20, 2019, 05:45:59 PM
Hi Proweather, I believe the only one in this pack that has two engines is
the SM81bis.
(https://i.postimg.cc/zXj6jtf0/2019-01-21-00-32-58.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4mYW41V9)

(https://i.postimg.cc/133TYGnP/2019-01-21-00-33-46.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RN2XWnLb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/7Ztcv50z/2019-01-21-00-34-07.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jDNvPd8q)

(https://i.postimg.cc/zfLQqqFc/2019-01-21-00-34-21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nsJ2kb54)

(https://i.postimg.cc/bvKBJ46N/2019-01-21-00-34-36.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CZsNrrTW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MTVrjt40/2019-01-21-00-34-54.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/34rZsj3W)

(https://i.postimg.cc/x8QpGMDw/2019-01-21-00-35-04.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jw8htWjc)
Title: Re: SM81 pack - AR125/ GR/ Piaggio/SM81 Early/ SM81bis/ SM81 Late /Sm73 Update 2 [4.10] [4.12]
Post by: max_thehitman on February 10, 2019, 08:04:05 AM

Thank you for the recent upgrades. I had not installed them before.

It still is a great classic aircraft.
Thank you all !