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Title: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: SAS~Monty27 on July 18, 2012, 06:03:45 PM
TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX

MOD for Dark Blue World 1.71 - can be setup for other versions, take a look!

Tiger33's beautiful sound mod has one issue at present: There are no flyby sounds over several of the original winter maps.

SOLVED!

by: RDDR and Monty27

Installing a repainted Winter Stalingrad (Winter) Map as a replacement for the default Stalingrad (Winter) maps RESTORED the Tiger33 flyby sounds to this map.  It now works in QMB, FMB, DGEN campaigns and everywhere else.

Using the same principles we then put together a solution for the other three maps and can confirm that the original loss of flyby sound is not due to Tiger33's mod but is a MAP issue.  Our idea was that the original winter maps, being quite an old part of the original game, contained some coded obstacle preventing the new flyby sounds from working properly.

As vpmedia later said this is mainly due to the missing load entry:

  WaterNoise = water/WaterNoise.tga
  WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoise00.tga

Thanks to epervier for pointing out that Ardennes Winter was also an issue. 

UPDATE - MORE MAPS FIXED

Winter maps now fixed are:

Ardennes
Balaton
Bessarabia
Finsgulf
Moscow
Stalingrad
Westfront40

Empty1a_winter
Empty1b_winter
Empty2a_winter
Empty2b_winter

Kt_Karelia
Kt_Svir
Kt_Syvari
Kt_Viipuri


If you have Tiger33s sounds installed and want to fly over these maps with the full gorgeously rich and loud Tiger33 flyby sounds, we offer this fix as an easy to install JSGME addon -

#DBW_MOD_Maps_TIGER_FIX_FINAL
http://www.mediafire.com/?5m6tna8od8mibl1

Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Mick on July 19, 2012, 12:10:00 AM
Hats down for the fix guys, this confirms what Tiger has always told me, the bug has nothing to do with UV3 ...  :D

THX for sharing ...!!  ;)

I updated the UV3 first page accordingly ...  ;)
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: SAS~Malone on July 19, 2012, 02:30:38 AM
great find, guys :D
i find it quite incredible that a map load entry can determine if there will be flyby sounds or not, but there you go .....still learning something new every day! :D
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: crimar on July 19, 2012, 02:41:30 AM
I pretty much narrowed down to one section then to one line
  "WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoise00.tga"
if its not there no flyby sounds, everything else seems irrelevant  ???
I'm gonna do more testing.

test done on Stalingrad map: you are right !
with "WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoise00.tga" added in load.ini, FlyBy are OK !

Cheers.
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: SAS~Monty27 on July 19, 2012, 02:42:55 AM
great find, guys :D
i find it quite incredible that a map load entry can determine if there will be flyby sounds or not, but there you go .....still learning something new every day! :D
Thanks Malone

Me and RDDR spent hours testing this one with every aircraft on every map.  We noticed the corellation between the use of re-painted maps and stock, cross-referencing the results by theatre, then made the intuitive leap. 

Simon(Monty27)
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Tiger_33 on July 19, 2012, 03:22:33 AM
TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX

MOD for Dark Blue World 1.71 - can be setup for other versions, take a look!

Tiger33's beautiful sound mod has one issue at present: There are no flyby sounds over four of the original Russian winter maps.  This presently applies to Moscow (Winter), Leningrad (FINSGULF Winter), Balaton (Winter), and Stalingrad (Winter and Winter2) maps.

SOLVED!

by: RDDR and Monty27

Installing Ramone's repainted Winter Stalingrad (Winter) Map as a replacement for the default Stalingrad (Winter) maps has RESTORED the Tiger33 flyby sounds to this map.  It now works in QMB, FMB, DGEN campaigns and everywhere else.

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,23743.msg252430.html#msg252430

Using the same principles we then put together a solution for the other three maps and can confirm that the original loss of flyby sound is not due to Tiger33's mod but is a MAP issue.

Our idea was that the original Russian winter maps, being quite an old part of the original game, contained some coded obstacle preventing the new flyby sounds from working properly.

Somehow, when map-makers package new un-compressed maps for a texture repaint, the sound bug is cured!  It may be something to do with the game loading order and forcing the maps to load in this way.

Bottom Line - We now have Tiger33's sounds and the flyby's working on all of the Russian winter maps - An issue which Tiger33 himself was getting a bit lost on, describing it as "the biggest mystery"!

If you have Tiger33s sounds installed and want to fly over the Russian Winter maps with the full gorgeously rich and loud Tiger33 flyby sounds, we offer this fix as an easy to install JSGME addon -

We recommend you have #DBW_MOD_Maps by 78th_WndWpn installed FIRST.

#DBW MOD_Maps
http://www.gamefront.com/files/21463368/_DBW_MOD_Maps_7z

Then install the #DBW MOD_Maps_FIX by RDDR & Monty27

#DBW MOD_Maps_FIX
http://www.mediafire.com/?febff8ddxtqat37



Good Job Mates ;)

What is funny is that I started last night compare files "load.ini" defective Maps and I could not have found what could be causing the issue.

I'm happy because I knew UV3 had nothing to do with this issue.
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Mick on July 19, 2012, 04:20:04 AM
... same with Tiger (without knowing he was also tackling the prob) no later than yesterday I was tweaking temperature in the Moscow load.ini and also replacing CAMOUFLAGE=WINTER by =winter but of course to no avail ...  :'(

I feel like Malone, how in hell can a map load.ini decide if we'll get flyby sounds or not ...??  ???

EDIT:

THX Istvan for pinning down the very culprit line in the load.ini, so we have to chose between icy rivers or flyby sounds ...  :D
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Uufflakke on July 19, 2012, 07:58:08 AM
... same with Tiger (without knowing he was also tackling the prob) no later than yesterday I was tweaking temperature in the Moscow load.ini and also replacing CAMOUFLAGE=WINTER by =winter but of course to no avail ...  :'(

I feel like Malone, how in hell can a map load.ini decide if we'll get flyby sounds or not ...??  ???

EDIT:

THX Istvan for pinning down the very culprit line in the load.ini, so we have to chose between icy rivers or flyby sounds ...  :D

This whole water/ice on wintermaps is a mysterious issue.
I found out that on wintermaps with water you should have CAMOUFLAGE = winter in load.ini and nót CAMOUFLAGE=WINTER. Otherwise you get bombcraters on water instead of a nice watersplash.
Don't ask me why but this line in load.ini is case sensitive.

See for instance my reply #19 in this thread of the Caucasus wintermap which had the same problem:
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,10201.12.html (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,10201.12.html)
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Mick on July 19, 2012, 09:31:44 AM
... same with Tiger (without knowing he was also tackling the prob) no later than yesterday I was tweaking temperature in the Moscow load.ini and also replacing CAMOUFLAGE=WINTER by =winter but of course to no avail ...  :'(

I feel like Malone, how in hell can a map load.ini decide if we'll get flyby sounds or not ...??  ???

EDIT:

THX Istvan for pinning down the very culprit line in the load.ini, so we have to chose between icy rivers or flyby sounds ...  :D

This whole water/ice on wintermaps is a mysterious issue.
I found out that on wintermaps with water you should have CAMOUFLAGE = winter in load.ini and nót CAMOUFLAGE=WINTER. Otherwise you get bombcraters on water instead of a nice watersplash.
Don't ask me why but this line in load.ini is case sensitive.

See for instance my reply #19 in this thread of the Caucasus wintermap which had the same problem:
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,10201.12.html (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,10201.12.html)

... yep, it is because I remembered your trick Uufflakke that I gave it a try yesterday, but to no avail ...  ;)

Decidedly IL2 has still got it's mysteries more than 10 years after release ...!!  ???
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Mick on July 19, 2012, 09:51:41 AM
Guys this is the crazy test Epervier has just made with HSFX6.0:

Moscow winter map, NO Map fix : no flyby for any plane.

Moscow winter map, WITH Map fix, with only one plane, BeauI : flyby OK

Moscow winter map, map fix deleted, one plane added (FW190) : flyby OK for the Beau, NO flyby for the FW190 ...!!!  ???

Moscow winter map, map fix added, flyby OK for both planes ...

So it looks like the game "remembers" such plane was tested with the Map fix ....!!!  ???

Ain't this weird ...?  ???
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Epervier on July 19, 2012, 09:53:40 AM
I'm only passing two tests ...
You do not have these problems with the map Ardennes Winter? Moi oui !
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: crimar on July 19, 2012, 10:00:08 AM

So it looks like the game "remembers" such plane was tested with the Map fix ....!!!  ???

Ain't this weird ...?  ???

Mick: be sure to quit IL-2 between each test, or to load another map between each test. The game like to keep some info in memory and this can let you think that the test is wrong. Experienced myself.

Best regards.
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Epervier on July 19, 2012, 10:35:54 AM
... be sure to quit IL-2 between each test, or to load another map between each test.
It is not Mick, it is me !
Mick very well translated but I specify...
I made out a will on a single map : Moscow!
Between every test I leave completely the game to activate/deactivate the corrective in the jsgme...
It is evident that I am not going to switch off my computer between every test...  ;)
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: crimar on July 19, 2012, 11:48:46 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Epervier on July 19, 2012, 12:42:57 PM
A test for the map of Ardennes Winter !

Note to authors of the patch: did you change the temperature supplied to the card?
I was forced to change from -5 to 1 so that everything works!
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: crimar on July 19, 2012, 02:11:10 PM
tested: seems to be good, except the solid water. Camouflage needs to be changed in: "camouflage = winter" instead of "camouflage = WINTER".
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Epervier on July 19, 2012, 02:43:10 PM
Oh ! Thank you ! I test ! ;)
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: SAS~Monty27 on July 19, 2012, 10:08:43 PM
A test for the map of Ardennes Winter !

Note to authors of the patch: did you change the temperature supplied to the card?
I was forced to change from -5 to 1 so that everything works!
Thanks Gabriel, you are right, Ardennes winter has the same problem.  I have added Ardennes to the new version of the, much slimmer, map fix.

Simon(Monty27)
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: RDDR Hangar19 on July 19, 2012, 11:47:18 PM
Thanks Monty.
I did another rundown on all Winters,with different aircraft.
Everything running well. I just need the Ardennes.
Now if I had to make a choice between icy rivers and flybys....what do you think I'd choose? ;)
Good stuff.
Cheers, RDDR
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Mick on July 19, 2012, 11:53:50 PM
... since nothing related to IL2 amazes me now, I'm going to give a try to =desert instead of =DESERT, who knows, may be dunes will turn into glaciers ...!!  :D

I hope this is the case, then we'll be able at least to drink fresh beer ...!!  :P
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: RDDR Hangar19 on July 19, 2012, 11:56:37 PM
  Mick!  What the hell is it with you and the desert... ?
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Mick on July 20, 2012, 12:07:57 AM
... I have no idea mate, must be genetic ...!!  :D
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Epervier on July 20, 2012, 12:56:16 AM
There must be maps (Net...) which must have the same problem ...
Some of these cards are used in simple missions...
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: SAS~Monty27 on July 20, 2012, 01:29:12 AM
Thanks Monty.
I did another rundown on all Winters,with different aircraft.
Everything running well. I just need the Ardennes.
Now if I had to make a choice between icy rivers and flybys....what do you think I'd choose? ;)
Good stuff.
Cheers, RDDR
Hey mate

I have updated our fix, so grab the new one and replace the old one!  Will talk to you over the weekend anyways.
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: SAS~Monty27 on July 20, 2012, 01:35:02 AM
Its easy just compare good and bad load ini's

I pretty much narrowed down to one section then to one line
  "WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoise00.tga"
if its not there no flyby sounds, everything else seems irrelevant  ???
I'm gonna do more testing.
Good indeed, now that we have narrowed down where to look, what to look at and produced a solution, by all means tidy it up to one line if you can.

If you then successfully test your theory, and produce a useable solution based on our pointers, then congratulations - Hardly Irrelevant though!


I already tested it before posting and works - disadvantage is that you get fluid water instead ice (which i kinda like on winter maps). By irrelevant I meant that changing other lines doesnt seem to make any difference so the other load ini lines are not related to the problem therefore irrelevant. Im saying this because my first guess was the textures and their size. The source of this bug must be java related.

Yes, thanks Istvan, I have amended the first post and changed the fix.  I withdraw my earlier comment.
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Mick on July 20, 2012, 02:49:05 AM
... looks like Lutz has got an explanation ...  :D

Translation of what he wrote at C6:

IL2 core is java coded and is case sensitive, so if you write =winter instead of =WINTER then the game won't find WINTER and will use the default value=SUMMER (hence no icy rivers)

Here it is:

this.camouflage = localIniFile.get("WORLDPOS", "CAMOUFLAGE", "SUMMER");

this.zutiWaterState = localIniFile.get("WORLDPOS", "WATER_STATE", "");
if ((this.zutiWaterState == null) || (this.zutiWaterState.trim().length() == 0))
{
if ("WINTER".equals(this.camouflage))
this.zutiWaterState = "ICE";
else {
this.zutiWaterState = "LIQUID";
}
}

 "if ("WINTER".equals(this.camouflage))" means it is case sensitive.

to delete this case sensitivity you may try:

if ("WINTER".equalsIgnoreCase(this.camouflage))

Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: crimar on July 20, 2012, 03:09:41 AM
Ok, voilà bien l'explication.  :)

Donc si je résume:

WINTER=eau solide
n'importe quoi d'autre=SUMMER=eau liquide
température positive=visuel eau liquide
température négative=visuel eau glace

Ok, well that's the explanation. :)

So if I summarize:

WINTER = solid water
anything else = SUMMER = liquid water
positive temperature= visual  liquid water
negative temperature = visual water ice
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Mick on July 20, 2012, 03:28:38 AM
... yep but not only a difference between water and ice, if I remember well with FinsGulf map for ex, if you set =WINTER you get ground craters instead of water geysers when a plane hits the unfrozen sea ...  ???
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: crimar on July 20, 2012, 03:35:33 AM
and another parameter I have found in Gilb57's maps:  WATER_STATE = LIQUID   ::)
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Mick on July 20, 2012, 03:44:48 AM
...  ::)

A big THANKS to Tiger and his UV3 SOUND mod ... 'cause thanks to him we are now tweaking load.inis and what not and discovering new tricks and fixes each and every day  ...!!  :D
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Epervier on July 20, 2012, 03:55:54 AM
List of the maps which can raise problems with the UV3:
- Kt_Svir
- Kt_Viipuri
- Kt_Karelia
- Kt_Syvari
- Net1Winter
- Net2Winter
- Empty1a_winter
- Empty1b_winter
- Empty2a_winter
- Empty2b_winter

If you want to test please...
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: crimar on July 20, 2012, 04:03:36 AM
I have tweaked the load.ini of Stgd winter map in this way:

CAMOUFLAGE = WINTER
TEMPERATURE = -15
WATER_STATE = LIQUID

in this case, we have liquid water with ice visual, and no FlyBy.

But if I add :   WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoise00.tga, then the water turns black and FlyBy are OK  :(

EDIT: OK VpMedia, I have just seen your reply !
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Epervier on July 20, 2012, 04:18:55 AM
?

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,27302.msg286123.html#msg286123
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: SAS~Monty27 on July 20, 2012, 05:13:20 AM
Only remaining question is who will extract all the DBW 1.71 winter load.ini's and add that one line to each? :)
That's not difficult mate, can we put together a definitive list before I do that though?

So far I have:
- Ardennes
- Balaton
- Bessarabia
- Finsgulf
- Moscow
- Stalingrad
- Westfront40
- Kt_Svir
- Kt_Viipuri
- Kt_Karelia
- Kt_Syvari
- Net1Winter
- Net2Winter
- Empty1a_winter
- Empty1b_winter
- Empty2a_winter
- Empty2b_winter
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: crimar on July 20, 2012, 05:15:31 AM
Got the fix

Tested on Stgd winter map, with:

CAMOUFLAGE = WINTER
TEMPERATURE = -15

and VpMedia's 'WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoisex00.tga'


I found FlyBy OK, ice visual water and liquid water !

Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: SAS~Monty27 on July 20, 2012, 06:56:40 AM
Updated the first post for:

Ardennes
Balaton
Bessarabia
Finsgulf
Moscow
Stalingrad
Westfront40

Empty1a_winter
Empty1b_winter
Empty2a_winter
Empty2b_winter

Kt_Karelia
Kt_Svir
Kt_Syvari
Kt_Viipuri
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Danyfly on July 20, 2012, 12:15:21 PM
Hi VPmedia

I tried your patch with all Winter maps and it's working perfectly, sounds are now working with all planes!  :)
Many thanks for this fix !
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: too-cool on July 20, 2012, 07:57:06 PM
Is this fix just for DBW or all installs ie. HSFX?  Thanks TC
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: SAS~Monty27 on July 20, 2012, 08:06:32 PM
Is this fix just for DBW or all installs ie. HSFX?  Thanks TC
Its set up as a DBW JSGME pack,easy enough to take it apart and use another mod folder.  What mod folder do you use in HSFX and would you like an HSFX JSGME pack?
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: too-cool on July 21, 2012, 06:34:42 AM
Is this fix just for DBW or all installs ie. HSFX?  Thanks TC
Its set up as a DBW JSGME pack,easy enough to take it apart and use another mod folder.  What mod folder do you use in HSFX and would you like an HSFX JSGME pack?
Yes, I would like a HSFX 6.01 JSGME pack and I only have a mods folder and jsgme folder in my game.  Thanks TC
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: SAS~Monty27 on July 22, 2012, 04:56:04 PM
Is this fix just for DBW or all installs ie. HSFX?  Thanks TC
Its set up as a DBW JSGME pack,easy enough to take it apart and use another mod folder.  What mod folder do you use in HSFX and would you like an HSFX JSGME pack?
Yes, I would like a HSFX 6.01 JSGME pack and I only have a mods folder and jsgme folder in my game.  Thanks TC
OK mate - I'll get on it...
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: too-cool on July 22, 2012, 08:11:18 PM
Is this fix just for DBW or all installs ie. HSFX?  Thanks TC
Its set up as a DBW JSGME pack,easy enough to take it apart and use another mod folder.  What mod folder do you use in HSFX and would you like an HSFX JSGME pack?
Yes, I would like a HSFX 6.01 JSGME pack and I only have a mods folder and jsgme folder in my game.  Thanks TC
OK mate - I'll get on it...
Thanks Monty27.  TC
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: el bradipo on July 24, 2012, 09:58:46 AM
Works, works in my DBW-finnish campaign!!Thanks for fix, Tiger!
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: WindWpn on July 25, 2012, 08:42:22 AM
Tried this update in HSFX 6 and unfortunately it appears that there is something which causes the updated wload.ini for various maps not to load. 

I receive an error in reading the file.  I tested on Ardennes map.  Perhaps if we had a compare of the stock HSFX 6 wload.ini vs. the one packed for DBW, we may see the culprit; however, I am not sure how to extract the wload.ini from within HSFX6/4.1.1.1.

Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Epervier on July 25, 2012, 09:08:17 AM
I tested on Ardennes map. 
The problem is that now with all the packages that exist there is nothing more to say such a thing because it does not mean anything anymore ... I hope to be clear!
- Ardennes "stock"?
- Ardennes by Peter, by Paul, by Jack, etc. ...... etc ...

In one of my posts I proposed a fix for the maps including the Ardennes "stock".
This modification works very well for me on my HSFX6!
But someone pointed out that I had not taken the correct file...

Now I have no problem with maps HSFX6!
To see!
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: WindWpn on July 25, 2012, 11:16:30 AM
Ardennes stock is the one that will not load.  Upon further investigation, it appears the Ardennes stock winter has frozen rivers.  All other winter maps I have which come standard with HSFX (note, I do not have any map mods installed), show unfrozen rivers.  Perhaps its the ice of Ardennes, and maybe a texture call which is not found specific to frozen rivers/water?
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: too-cool on August 05, 2012, 12:11:26 PM
Ardennes stock is the one that will not load.  Upon further investigation, it appears the Ardennes stock winter has frozen rivers.  All other winter maps I have which come standard with HSFX (note, I do not have any map mods installed), show unfrozen rivers.  Perhaps its the ice of Ardennes, and maybe a texture call which is not found specific to frozen rivers/water?
Same issue here, won't load.  TC
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: thefruitbat on September 28, 2012, 08:49:06 AM
Hi all,

is there any way of getting these maps to work with the flybys, without having to change the maps temp to +1, and not having a dark black void to the underworld, where rivers are?

unfortunately, flying online, i do not want to change the temps of these maps, as it will change the overheat parameters, and they will be different from client to host.....

cheers fb.
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: vpmedia on September 28, 2012, 10:44:22 AM
The fix is needed only on maps with Water0   = water/waterice.tga
becasuse for some reason flyby only works if the map got the line
WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoise00.tga
which means fluid water but obliviously the frozen water maps like ardennes or moscow dont have this line.
Anyway the black rivers are black because you need water/water.tga in the load.ini, instead you probably got water/waterice.tga,
plus in this section [WATER] Water    = water/Waterice.tga needs to be changed too.
Then you'll have minus ten degrees with proper fluid water I think.


Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: thefruitbat on September 28, 2012, 10:48:05 AM
The fix is needed only on maps with Water0   = water/waterice.tga
becasuse for some reason flyby only works if the map got the line
WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoise00.tga
which means fluid water but obliviously the frozen water maps like ardennes or moscow dont have this line.
Anyway the black rivers are black because you need water/water.tga in the load.ini, instead you probably got water/waterice.tga,
plus in this section [WATER] Water    = water/Waterice.tga needs to be changed too.
Then you'll have minus ten degrees with proper fluid water I think.


thanks alot VP, will try that:)
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: vpmedia on September 28, 2012, 12:13:40 PM
you can try another thing although it not worked for everyone ( I forgot about it before)

open the problematic maps load ini and add this line in red to the appendix section/ change nothing else

[APPENDIX]
  HighClouds  = Clouds256.tga
  HighCloudsNoise  = CloudsNoise.tga
//  CloudsMap  = CloudMap4x4km.tga
  Moon = Moon\Moon0000.tga
  ShadeNoise = land/SnowNoise2.tga
  WaterNoise = land/SnowNoise.tga
  WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoisex00.tga
  ForestNoise= forest/winter/ListForestNoise.tga
  BeachFoam  = water/Foam.tga
  BeachSurf  = water/BeachSurf.tga
  BeachLand  = water/Snow1.tga

_______________________________

Btw what modpack are you using?
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: thefruitbat on September 28, 2012, 12:38:14 PM
HSFX 6
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: thefruitbat on September 28, 2012, 03:53:47 PM
you can try another thing although it not worked for everyone ( I forgot about it before)

open the problematic maps load ini and add this line in red to the appendix section/ change nothing else

[APPENDIX]
  HighClouds  = Clouds256.tga
  HighCloudsNoise  = CloudsNoise.tga
//  CloudsMap  = CloudMap4x4km.tga
  Moon = Moon\Moon0000.tga
  ShadeNoise = land/SnowNoise2.tga
  WaterNoise = land/SnowNoise.tga
  WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoisex00.tga
  ForestNoise= forest/winter/ListForestNoise.tga
  BeachFoam  = water/Foam.tga
  BeachSurf  = water/BeachSurf.tga
  BeachLand  = water/Snow1.tga

_______________________________

Btw what modpack are you using?

Thanks a lot VP, that has worked on the map i've tried it on (moscow), much appreciated.

will go through and change the rest tomorrow, and hope for the best!

cheers fb.
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: conikafik on October 02, 2012, 03:02:29 PM
Hey guys !
Sorry if for my first post here I'm asking a completely dumb question but I can't sort this out.
I'm trying to make this work on my HSFX 6.0.15 installation and I can't.
unpacked the mod in the folder and import it via JSGME.
Tried to activate it through JSGME on Moscow Winter map in QMB -> no flyby sounds.
I've got the #DBW folder in the main IL2 folder.
Is this mod compatible with HSFX ? And if yes please help me I'm almost desperate  :)
Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: conikafik on October 06, 2012, 11:19:23 AM
Ok now I'm completely desperate  :'(
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: vpmedia on October 06, 2012, 12:10:50 PM
I'm sorry about that, but I got no clue about HSFX.
One thing is sure though, it wont like your #DBW folder. ;)
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: thefruitbat on October 06, 2012, 12:38:25 PM
Rename the '#DBW' folder 'mods' for a start.

Then it will work.

However, this fix is not in any means perfect imo, because it changes the temps of all the maps, this means its no good if you fly online, and it will also change the overheat parameters as well.

Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: conikafik on October 07, 2012, 01:19:19 PM
Well thanks so much thefruitbat, it works ! :)
Well noted for the online trouble with this fix, will take care of it.

Vpmedia, I take the opportunity of your answer to thank you for all the wonderful skins you make, can't imagine to go flying without one of your marvellous paintings on my plane !
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: ElmarBoehl on December 06, 2012, 08:29:50 AM
TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX

MOD for Dark Blue World 1.71 - can be setup for other versions, take a look!

Tiger33's beautiful sound mod has one issue at present: There are no flyby sounds over several of the original winter maps.

SOLVED!

by: RDDR and Monty27

Installing a repainted Winter Stalingrad (Winter) Map as a replacement for the default Stalingrad (Winter) maps RESTORED the Tiger33 flyby sounds to this map.  It now works in QMB, FMB, DGEN campaigns and everywhere else.

Using the same principles we then put together a solution for the other three maps and can confirm that the original loss of flyby sound is not due to Tiger33's mod but is a MAP issue.  Our idea was that the original winter maps, being quite an old part of the original game, contained some coded obstacle preventing the new flyby sounds from working properly.

As vpmedia later said this is mainly due to the missing load entry:

  WaterNoise = water/WaterNoise.tga
  WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoise00.tga

Thanks to epervier for pointing out that Ardennes Winter was also an issue. 

UPDATE - MORE MAPS FIXED

Winter maps now fixed are:

Ardennes
Balaton
Bessarabia
Finsgulf
Moscow
Stalingrad
Westfront40

Empty1a_winter
Empty1b_winter
Empty2a_winter
Empty2b_winter

Kt_Karelia
Kt_Svir
Kt_Syvari
Kt_Viipuri


If you have Tiger33s sounds installed and want to fly over these maps with the full gorgeously rich and loud Tiger33 flyby sounds, we offer this fix as an easy to install JSGME addon -

#DBW_MOD_Maps_TIGER_FIX_FINAL
http://www.mediafire.com/?5m6tna8od8mibl1



You mean I have to fill in  WaterNoise = water/WaterNoise.tga
  WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoise00.tga

in each particular map load.ini ?

and by the way do I activate with the JSMG activator?
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: vpmedia on December 06, 2012, 08:48:55 AM
You can add those lines manually if its easier for you but the mediafire link is for a jsgme addon which spares you the work.
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Imamar on January 20, 2013, 02:35:04 PM
I accidently intalled the map fix straight to my #DBW folder. Some maps won't load, because errors in load.ini..  Could some one upload the original DBW 1.71 MapMods folder?
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Imamar on January 22, 2013, 09:37:14 AM
I extracted the MapMods folder from DBW 1.71 Superinstall.7z files. It is almost empty, only _Tex folder and all.ini file. My actual DBW 1.71 MapMods folder has; _Tex, ardannes, balaton, Bessarabia, Empty1a_winter, Empty1b_winter, Empty2a_winter, Empty2b_winter, FinsGulf, Kt_Karelia, Kt_svir, Kt_syvari, Kt_viipuri, Moscow, Net1Winter, Net2Winter, Stgrad and WestFront40 folders, and all.ini file
If I want to uninstall the Tiger33 Flyby MAP-FIX,  I just delete everything expect -Tex folder and all.ini?

Problem is load.ini in Kt_syvari maps.. Moscow works, haven't tried the rest yet. I'm playing Stock Finland campaign at the moment, and wouldn't wanna screw that up just because some maps wont work.. By the way FinsGulf map with flyby sounds is working.

Any help appreciated!
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: SAS~Monty27 on March 04, 2014, 05:54:49 AM
For Backup purposes and to ensure a Clean Vanilla #DBW Install
PLAIN VANILLA DBW 1.71 #DBW Mods Folder
DOWNLOAD -           http://www.mediafire.com/?dre4yd3jof79twc (http://www.mediafire.com/?dre4yd3jof79twc)
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Carcajou101 on January 23, 2016, 03:17:22 PM
Hi Monty, i'm new here and when i use winter maps like Cup Battle of Moscow i lost tiger's fly by sound. Am i the only person to experience this? I read that topic but that was way before where we are today. Is there a planned fix for CUP winter maps?

thx
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: SAS~Monty27 on January 28, 2016, 07:52:34 PM
Hi Monty, i'm new here and when i use winter maps like Cup Battle of Moscow i lost tiger's fly by sound. Am i the only person to experience this? I read that topic but that was way before where we are today. Is there a planned fix for CUP winter maps?

thx

Thanks Carcajou101, good suggestion:

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=50202.msg547962#msg547962
Title: Re: TIGER33 Flyby MAP-FIX
Post by: Hartmann84 on April 26, 2016, 06:15:54 PM
Hello please help how to get the sound of Tiger 33's on map FinsGulf hsfx 7 sorry for Google translator