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Title: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: Dreamk on June 05, 2012, 09:28:57 AM
The Koolhoven had quite a role in the fighting in "Zone Norde", that has been kept under shade till now - It even served as a ground attack plane, and its performances in Holland in 39-40 were not bad at all for its tasks. I've even found photos of its modification with a rear machine gun in Spain.
It was deserved by the low power of its engine and soon withdrawn from the front line in zone center like the PWS10, Potez25, Br19 and other planes with the 450-500Hp range of engines. This last point, by the way, can be discussed, as, objectively looking at the engine data,  the engines used in Spains (420Hp Whirlwind R975E3 nine-cylinder radial and 400Hp Armstrong Siddeley Jaguar IVa 14-cylinder two-row radial engine) may well have created a real upgrade in the performances of an altogether good plane, although remaining in the 400-500Hp range
Indeed, a much under-rated plane - just to give an idea about its potential, in 1941 on his 365 Hp Whirlwind R975E1 engined FK51, Sgt Binckmann of the KNIL was attacked by 3 Mistubishi Zeros at take off, succeeded to dodge them till and out manoeuver them successfully till one of them crashed and the remaining two decided to leave totally disgusted and all ammo spent!

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img804/3951/image7.gif)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img823/1499/image6a.gif)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img832/7547/image8k.gif)
(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img96/313/image14n.gif)

Download links
To fly this plane you'll need to install the Spanish bombs.

Koolhoven.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/?zlh5mcvhedeh55l

Arms Spain Updated
http://www.mediafire.com/?9n5tiud5j0zl73w

Additions to air.ini:

Koolhoven_FK51W    air.Koolhoven_FK51W        NOINFO  i01   SUMMER
Koolhoven_FK51J    air.Koolhoven_FK51J        NOINFO  i01   SUMMER

Additions to plane_ru.properties:

Koolhoven_FK51W   Koolhoven F.K.51 (Wright Whirlwind), 1937
Koolhoven_FK51J   Koolhoven F.K.51 (Jaguar IVa), 1938

Additions to weapons_ru.properties:

####################################################################
# Koolhoven_FK51J
#####################################################################
Koolhoven_FK51J.default                             Default
Koolhoven_FK51J.8x20lbsR10                       4 R10 20lbs HE
Koolhoven_FK51J.8x10kgR5                          2 R5 10kg Frag
Koolhoven_FK51J.8x12KgIncR12Reus   8 R12 Reus Incendiary
Koolhoven_FK51J.8x12KgA5      8 A5 10kg HE
Koolhoven_FK51J.none      None

####################################################################
# Koolhoven_FK51W
#####################################################################
Koolhoven_FK51W.default                             Default
Koolhoven_FK51W.8x20lbsR10                       4 R10 20lbs HE
Koolhoven_FK51W.8x10kgR5                          2 R5 10kg Frag
Koolhoven_FK51W.8x12KgIncR12Reus   8 R12 Reus Incendiary
Koolhoven_FK51W.8x12KgA5      8 A5 10kg HE
Koolhoven_FK51W.none      None


This mod is for 4.10 and has been tested on SAS modact and DBW 1.7
This package is freeware.
This software may be freely used, copied and distributed with the following restrictions:
1) the present post must be included as a "Readme" text file.
2) DO NOT place these files anywhere that requires a fee for downloading.
3) DO NOT place any of these files in any commercial package or any CD collection without the authors consent.

Original 3dModel, Java Files, FM: Dreamk
Skins and template: Agracier
Flight Testing: Real Darko
The cockpit is a reworking and repainting of an original cockpit by Loku

Theses files should not cause any problems with your computer, but we accept no responsibility if you think it does.

Thanks to Oleg Maddox and Qtim for creating Il2 and opening the gates to Mod creation, to Kumpel for his matrix tool, and thanks to SAS for enabling modders to

share their knowledge on Il2 modding.
                                Create!

*******************************
Edited by SAS~Epervier with permission from the author!

Update01 : http://www.mediafire.com/?c904b1z2irt9qaa
   - correction LOD 500 (Prop1_D0.msh/Prop1_D1.msh/Prop2_D0.msh)
   - gunner dead
   - correction StrutsLn & Rn mesh (Dreamk)
   - correction Turret1B (Dreamk)
   - correction Prop1 & 2 (Birdman)

Update 02:
Fix by Birdman for the FM (eliminates the "shaking" phenomenon) and propeller sense of rotation
http://www.mediafire.com/?0xw0085l82y5a5a
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind and Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on June 05, 2012, 10:07:07 AM
FANTASTIC!!!!

A new SCW son came to life and as the Vildebeest can be used in the early stages of WWII too!!!!

Thanks a lot for it!

All the best!

walter
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind and Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: radko1111 on June 05, 2012, 10:16:01 AM
wery nice !!!

+9999999999999999999999999
from me
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind and Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: David Prosser on June 05, 2012, 10:22:12 AM
Thanks again Dreamk. I think I'll substitute these for the R5s I had in an escort mission. It's part of a semi historical Bulldog campaign [Santander] I'm doing. The Bulldogs belong to the Basque airforce or whatever it's called.
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind and Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Tofolo on June 05, 2012, 10:24:12 AM
Superb! another "forgotten" plane has come to life!
Thank you sirs!
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind and Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: agracier on June 05, 2012, 10:27:06 AM
A link to a template and skins for this very enjoyable, flyable and skinnable plane ... it is a joy to use and skin ... the Dutch Air Force profiles are really quite charming and therefore this plane will also be quite useable for the WestFront 40 map ... and perhaps even for some maps of the Pacific region. I don't know which maps there are of the Dutch East Indies or the area, but something ought to be amongst the large collection of maps we have.

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,25992.0.html

(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/0405201218-14-56.jpg)

(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/agracier/0405201218-15-12.jpg)
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind and Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Maro on June 05, 2012, 10:34:16 AM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally other Dutch plane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks a lot!!!!!
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind and Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: SAS~Poltava on June 05, 2012, 11:22:38 AM
Super, super!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind and Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Narvik on June 05, 2012, 11:25:38 AM
Thanks for new gifts, Dreamk!

However I've encountered very annoying bug. When I tried "W" variant in QMB (DBW 1.71), it immediately started to shake very quickly. The "J" variant has a "lighter" shaking effects in dive, but explodes when reaches 300 km/h. Map was "Moscow Winter".
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind and Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Dreamk on June 05, 2012, 11:32:31 AM
The shake is an AI bug, when you start a mission in mid air, it disappears by itself in a few fractiosn of seconds and does not reappear. It does not disturb anything else but it's a strange thing as this aircraft is very smooth to fly on. The AI has stranges behavoiurs sometimes - for instance after attacking a  bridge at low level it dives almost to the ground and then resources. It may be related to the "type sturmovik" implement but if one uses only the "type bomber" the AI is then very boring.... 
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind and Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Narvik on June 05, 2012, 11:38:07 AM
You are right, Dreamk. The shaking disappears quickly in most of the maps in QMB, but not in Moscow Winter. On Moscow Winter I should make a roll to stop shaking. Is there any explanation of this phenomenon?
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind and Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Ectoflyer on June 05, 2012, 11:51:46 AM
Woah, this plane is a real surprise...thank you Dreamk!!!  ;D
It was used also by Finnish Air Force, I think
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Gromm on June 05, 2012, 02:19:42 PM
Thanks, DreamK for another one superb and long-time-waited mod)
I have one question... When I fly. the rotating-propeller-circle seems to be static. I mean. that I see only a trasparend circle like a membrane (or other plastic material). And when I change the view, "plastic" structure of rotating proppeler continues to be... Other Your Spanish planes haven't had this problem...
Maybe it depends on my video characteristics?.. I have ultra-old PC :-[
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Dreamk on June 05, 2012, 03:04:06 PM
I need to check that
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Birdman on June 05, 2012, 03:23:37 PM
If you want rotating prop, then just change [PropRot1_D0] in hierW.him to

[PropRot1_D0]
Mesh PropRot2_D0
Parent Prop1_D0
Hidden
Attaching 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
CollisionObject .xxeng1prop

and in hierJ.him to

[PropRot1_D0]
Mesh PropRot2_D0
Parent Prop1_D0
Hidden
Attaching 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 -0.02 0
CollisionObject .xxeng1prop
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Dreamk on June 05, 2012, 03:49:21 PM
Thanks Birdman! I have just a  problem - when I do that (attaching in the hier him the Proprot1_D0 to the Prop1_D0), both meshes disappear - have you an idea why this happens? I met this kind of phenomenon a number of times in the past with meshes such as gear part or propeller part "accepting" to be lkinked only to certain given parts and not others.
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Birdman on June 05, 2012, 04:14:24 PM
I don't know what happens there since I haven't seen that happening. At least for me it works OK, so could it be due to buggy line end marks or something?
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: cgagan on June 06, 2012, 12:59:43 AM
Just saw this! Many thanks (again and again) for this brilliant addition! (d/loading now...) 8)
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Albert Von Grewe on June 06, 2012, 02:19:37 AM
 :( I have 70% crash with this beautiful plane...
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on June 06, 2012, 03:06:11 AM
The link for arms_Spain keeps coming up invalid or deleted file ??
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Dreamk on June 06, 2012, 06:50:56 AM
Arms Spain Updated
http://www.mediafire.com/?9n5tiud5j0zl73w
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: M0SCA on June 06, 2012, 07:20:19 AM
Gracias!
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Maro on June 06, 2012, 10:03:30 AM
Very, very good work!!!!!!! Other plane to Dutch service.
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on June 06, 2012, 12:00:38 PM
Cheers
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: henkypenky on June 06, 2012, 01:45:03 PM
Hi DreamK, thanks for this very nice suprise, I do not want to be ungrateful, only to report that in this plane, and in the Fokker C-X also, I have quite large holes in the wings.

(http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/henkntb/0606201221-32-00.jpg)

(http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/henkntb/0606201221-30-40.jpg)

Would you please be so kind to look into this - after a big well deserved rest of course  ;)

@birdman your propellorfix works great, thanks M8.
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Dreamk on June 06, 2012, 02:51:06 PM
It's nothing - I'll just need to pull back just a little the cockpit - as I use to include a "root" mesh in the cockpits' hier him, it's easily done. This is an artefact that appears only under certain angles and is due to the interactions of the "aura" of cockpit meshes with the aura of plane meshes, which ,I begin to suspect, happens because cockpit meshes have their normals flipped by comparaison with plane meshes.
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: Birdman on June 06, 2012, 05:21:35 PM
Biplanes usually have the center section of the upper wing in cockpit meshes also, and nowadays CF section too to fill 6DOF holes. The same external 3D model should work, but the cockpit placement should be exactly correct so that external and internal wings exactly overlap. That is the right way to avoid those wing holes, but moving cockpit back also fixes them although the cockpit position is then incorrect.
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: henkypenky on June 06, 2012, 11:10:28 PM
Wow guys, don't understand what your're talking about but thanks for looking into it
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Epervier on June 08, 2012, 02:11:29 AM
Update 01

   - correction LOD 500 (Prop1_D0.msh/Prop1_D1.msh/Prop2_D0.msh)
   - gunner dead
   - correction StrutsLn & Rn mesh (Dreamk)
   - correction Turret1B (Dreamk)
   - correction Prop1 & 2 (Birdman)

See first post !
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Hawker17 on June 08, 2012, 02:24:17 AM
Great aircraft, thanks for all your work! The only one existing (replica) nowadays is in our local museum in Soesterberg:

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

Picture 2: http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

Look at this Koolhoven FK49: http://www.oudsoesterberg.nl/joomla/cpg153/displayimage.php?pid=1334&fullsize=1 (http://www.oudsoesterberg.nl/joomla/cpg153/displayimage.php?pid=1334&fullsize=1)
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Dreamk on June 08, 2012, 03:16:36 AM
Hawker Hi! would you have a possibility of getting close-up photos of the instrument panels and cockpits of this plane?
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Hawker17 on June 08, 2012, 03:48:38 AM
Hawker Hi! would you have a possibility of getting close-up photos of the instrument panels and cockpits of this plane?

If the Koolhoven is still there, i will surely take some pictures. I emailed the museum already, if the aircraft is still there. They are moving the museum to another location which will be opened somewhere in 2013. Fingers crossed...

I made some more pictures of the Koolhoven a few years ago, which you can see at the end of this post. Too bad i didn't take some better pictures of the cockpit. I do have some pictures taken of the Fokker D-VII and the G1...  ;)

Propeller shot:

http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

Well, this is the only cockpit picture i shot, which i cropped a bit to see some details better.

Original picture:

http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

Cropped and somewhat brighter:

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img26/3999/dscf25142.jpg)

Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Hawker17 on June 08, 2012, 04:15:23 AM
By the way, on these sites better cockpit details:

http://www.nederlandseluchtvaart.nl/forums/f54-militaire-luchtvaart-museum/fk-51-replica-10461/ (http://www.nederlandseluchtvaart.nl/forums/f54-militaire-luchtvaart-museum/fk-51-replica-10461/)

http://www.network54.com/Forum/394728/message/1186514477/%28Frits%29+Koolhoven+F.K.51+part+1- (http://www.network54.com/Forum/394728/message/1186514477/%28Frits%29+Koolhoven+F.K.51+part+1-)

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z79/PeterDupont/Koolhoven%20FK-51/FK-51cockpitfrontNVEblz208-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Hawker17 on June 13, 2012, 03:26:44 AM
How did you like the pics? Still interested in pics of the cockpit? The Koolhoven FK51 replica is still in the museum, but as you can see the cockpit is not finished yet.
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: michel_boonstra1974 on June 13, 2012, 05:04:11 AM
Thank you for this great addition to the game! Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Dreamk on June 13, 2012, 06:45:08 AM
Great - I you could get close-up pictures of the instrument gauges it would be wonderful
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind and Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: juanmalapuente on July 02, 2012, 04:33:49 PM
The shake is an AI bug, when you start a mission in mid air, it disappears by itself in a few fractiosn of seconds and does not reappear. It does not disturb anything else but it's a strange thing as this aircraft is very smooth to fly on. The AI has stranges behavoiurs sometimes - for instance after attacking a  bridge at low level it dives almost to the ground and then resources. It may be related to the "type sturmovik" implement but if one uses only the "type bomber" the AI is then very boring....

Sorry, but I'm experiencing the shaking in both models. It stops as soon as I press autopilot and returns again with autopilot off.
It's a pity I love this plane but I only can fly it normally for a minute or so in every mission.  :'(
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind and Jaguar IVa) Ready to DL
Post by: David Prosser on July 02, 2012, 08:25:21 PM



Hi Juan. When I was testing stuff for the Santander campaign, I had this problem when the intercepting Fiat CR32s appeared.  I added a payload, and the problem disappeared. As it was a recconnisance mission, they started out with default armament.

cheers

David
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Dreamk on July 03, 2012, 12:19:24 AM
Sorry! I'm a little busy with RL these days, Iforgot to upload the fix that Birdman sent me for this bug (which is FM related) and a few others. Here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?0xw0085l82y5a5a
All credits to Birdman
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: David Prosser on July 03, 2012, 03:48:39 AM
Hi, Dreamk. Thanks for the fix. Now it's back to being an aeroplane, not a flying vibrator.

cheers

David
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: juanmalapuente on July 04, 2012, 02:48:19 PM
Thank you both, David, for the advice, wich I used and worked and Dreamk for the fix. I know you're really busy, so double thanks.  ;)
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: David Prosser on July 04, 2012, 08:51:45 PM
Thank you both, David, for the advice, wich I used and worked and Dreamk for the fix. I know you're really busy, so double thanks.  ;)

Hi Juan. I thought I'd seen the tip somewhere in these forums. I came across the problem in the Santander campaign.

Speaking of the SCW, there are two distinct groups of players here. There are the Spaniards, who had relatives involved. And everyone else. The Spaniards may have had family members, or friends on both
 sides. You wake up in Madrid on July 18th, and you're a Republican. If you woke up in the Canaries on July 18th, you'd be a Nationalist. Too bad if your sentiments were for the other side. You'd either have to stay put, and keep a low profile, or escape. You wake up near Malaga in a fighter squadron; and your best friend 100kms away is in a two seater squadron. Every time that squadron has planes in your sector, there's a chance you could kill him, or vice versa. Bearing this in mind, their approach to the subject is likely to be more visceral.

As for the other players, there are varying degrees of interest. However it's not at the same visceral level. WWII is different. Many of the players would have had relatives involved. So, there is a more visceral connection. My uncle Alan was killed in Italy, three weeks before the war ended. My cousin Lyell was killed in a plane crash while training in England in 1943. He was flying along. The engine stopped. He either forgot to switch tanks, or it didn't work. So, he bailed out. Unfortunately, the chute fouled the plane, and he was killed. Dad was in North Africa, and Italy. He liked Italy. My uncle Cyril serviced Corsairs in the Pacific. Uncle Doug was in the Pacific. So for these players The WW II connection is visceral. By comparison, connection to other wars is more intellectual. It depends whether or not friends and family were involved.

cheers

David
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: agracier on July 05, 2012, 07:15:06 AM

 So for these players The WW II connection is visceral. By comparison, connection to other wars is more intellectual. It depends whether or not friends and family were involved.

I bet things are somewhat more complicated than this ... I´ve no relatives or family connections to Spain at all and yet the era and the aircraft and the whole feel of the times seems so real and near and understandable somehow.

WWII however, while my father and mother both experienced it firsthand as occupied and as participant, seems less visceral for me. Which is also something that has often puzzled me, Americans or others of whatever nationality who have a thing for many of the uber-German planes or secret weapons/4th Reich stuff ... that shouldn´t be the expected way. Yet many players do feel an affinity ...

Maybe the attraction of eras and planes has a lot to do with Hollywood and movies or plain personal interest ... who knows.
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: David Prosser on July 05, 2012, 08:31:02 AM



Ah, yes, agracier. One can't rule out popular culture, and a certain fascination on the part of some with the losers. My favorite German tank is any of the Pz IIIs, and their early war stuff in general. For the Russians, the BT. For the US/UK, the Stuart, Mk13, Valentine, and Lee/Grant. Planewise, it's the Spitfire, Bf109, and any SCW planes.

cheers

David Prosser
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: juanmalapuente on July 05, 2012, 03:58:55 PM

We all have a huge cultural load, developed trough movies, books, comics, scale models, toys...
There's also the aesthetic aspect. German machines have distinctive lines and style which has captived eyes through decades  in spite of ideologies. There's also some mysticism...
About the periods, there're many Spaniards more interested in WWII than in SCW. Some of them, have still too strong feelings about SCW to consider it interesting or fun for a game.
For Spanish people, It really was as you say, David: they were mostly caught in one of the sides. For the special case of pilots, I'm reading many memories books of pilots of both sides and they all agree:
Whenever a pilot of the other side was captured, it was taken in custody by the enemy air forces, that protected him and provided all the necessary, offering him to be interchanged. This was possible because all the professional pilots had been colleagues before war, so they knew or even were friends of each other.
For instance, Garcia Morato asked Nationalist pilots to protect any Republican pilot bailing out, since the Republicans had been doing so before.
There was some sense of solidarity and gentlemen fair play between pilots.
On the battle ground, things were very different, and very strong feelings still arise nowadays for many people.
About non Spaniards feeling interested in that period, I understand them, because It's the Golden age of Aviation, look at the aircraft that we are getting: most of them have historical records or amazing history.
Besides, many foreigners can feel involved with SCW the same way that Spaniards do. This was, probably, the most ideological war of 20th century. It still awakes passionate feelings for one side or the other.
For many, It represents the fight for people's liberty and the struggle against the oppressive forces of capital and hierarchy, which is becoming kind of a current situation.
I visit Belchite very often and there are always foreigners visiting too. When Spanish people ask me why those German, Polish, Czech, French, American, Russian people come here, I usually answer them: Well, their parents or grandparents are still buried here too.
About 100,000 Italians, 60,000 Moroccans, 30,000 Germans, 20,000 Portuguese and 600 Irish fought with Franco, more than 10,000 Russians, and about 50,000 people from more than 50 countries volunteered in International Brigades or in the Anarchist and POUM millitias.
Many are still buried in Spain, many are still in the trenches were they died.

Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: David Prosser on July 05, 2012, 09:40:04 PM


Hi, Juan. You're right about the cultural load, and mysticisim. It varies from person to person. I guess everyone has a list of their favourite planes, ships and vehicles form the period. I can understand many Spaniards not being to play SCW missions due feelings about the war, and family involvement. I wasn't aware the two airforces were so chivalrous toward each other's downed pilots. I've begun adding that to the Balaeric Breguets campaign. It makes sense though when you think about it. As you say, things are usually different on the ground. As you say, the new planes are very interesting. Some of the battlefields were on very marginal land. Nobody farmed it. So there was little incentive to 'clean' the battle field post war. I guess some of the tourists that visit SCW sites have connections through relatives that fought on one side, or the other.

cheers

David Prossser
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: agracier on July 06, 2012, 05:01:01 AM
I visit Belchite very often and there are always foreigners visiting too. When Spanish people ask me why those German, Polish, Czech, French, American, Russian people come here, I usually answer them: Well, their parents or grandparents are still buried here too.

Belchite looks very unlike most other war memorial sites or remnants, certainly nothing like the many Great War monuments that can be seen in France and Belgium. Belchite looks like the fighting stopped just a few years ago ... a very eerie and captivating place. Though so far I´ve only ever seen 1 group of French speaking visitors. Otherwise most seem to be Spanish-speaking couples, not large groups ...

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/25795536
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/25795533
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/25795526
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/25795516
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: juanmalapuente on July 06, 2012, 03:51:05 PM
About the groups visiting Belchite, it's quite recent. Former Town Council was pretty much against any touristic exploitation of the place. They still have a 2 m tall Falange coat of arms hanging in a house in the main square. They followed Franco's instructions to not rebuild the Old Town, to keep the ruins as a monument to destruction caused by the Reds.
About 9,000 war prisoners were kept working in the construction of the new town, in a concentration camp, 1 km away from the town, called "La Rusia". Now there's a socialist major and some slow restoration efforts have begun, but crisis has brought them to a new halt.
I can tell you that I met people from all around the world visiting the ruins. There are larger groups on weekends, Easter, etc. I've guided myself some groups of Spaniards and foreigners, to visit not only Belchite, but the positions of both sides all around the Comarca. If I’m not wrong, they were 37 groups just this year...and no, this is not my main work.  ;D

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img51/9646/img1391lb.jpg) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/download/51/img1391lb.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img821/7213/p7211538.jpg) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/download/821/p7211538.jpg)

You can see they're not Spaniards. ;)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img839/6073/p7211507.jpg) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/download/839/p7211507.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img36/6776/img1302w.jpg) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/download/36/img1302w.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

After an hour long visit, you can tell by their faces they're thinking about the nonsense of war. This is a shocking impression that almost everybody feels when visiting Belchite. I just tell them the data, no good, no evil, just the hard, shocking facts.

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img571/303/img0679go.jpg) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/download/571/img0679go.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img441/5554/img0556du.jpg) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/download/441/img0556du.jpg)

Republican positions in Sierra Gorda

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

The seminar, where a strong defence was held by Carlists.

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img59/154/dscf1573p.jpg) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/download/59/dscf1573p.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img809/562/dscf0008fn.jpg) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/download/809/dscf0008fn.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img651/47/dsc02708s.jpg) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/download/651/dsc02708s.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img69/9835/copiadeimg0676.jpg) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/download/69/copiadeimg0676.jpg)

Inside an Nationalist bunker

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img109/8719/belchiteconkcs9.jpg) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/download/109/belchiteconkcs9.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img641/16/p7211553.jpg) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/download/641/p7211553.jpg)

The Republican artillery shell in San Agustín Church tower.

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/img407/6923/p7211550.jpg) (http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/download/407/p7211550.jpg)

It’s an impressive place to take pictures.
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: David Prosser on July 07, 2012, 12:47:55 AM
Hi Juan. The Seminar building looks like it was struck by an HE round. Keeping it as a memorial was likely as much pragmatic as sentimental right after the end of the war. There would only have been limited funds for reconstruction. So the Nationalists killed two birds with one stone. Rebuild the town near by, and have a ready made memorial to exploit for propaganda purposes. Are you in any of the pictures?

cheers

David
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: agracier on July 07, 2012, 01:31:54 AM
Juan,

Could I ask where the Sierra Gorda position is? And the Nationalist bunker in the photo? I´ll be passing by Zaragoza and Belchite in a few days and if possible I might be able to fit in a visit on the way ...

And btw - how can you tell in the photo the group isn´t Spanish? You could have fooled me ...
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: juanmalapuente on July 07, 2012, 02:28:00 AM
Yes, David, Seminar walls were shelled from less than 500 m far. Even though, when the Republicans entered the building, there were still defendants hidings over the arches of the building shooting down to the International brigadists. It was the same in the churches.
Franco destinated a considerable budget to a program called "Devastated Areas", but it was only possible to carry out because of the enormous amount of "cheap" work force:Red POWs.
I'm in several pics, guess who I am.  ;)
Agracier, about  the possitions, there are many other really amazing and even more impressive places, such as Mojón del Lobo (underground artillery position), Bunkers of Vérrtice Parapetos, Nationalist bunker systems around Belchite, Republican trenches in Mediana and Fuentes de Ebro, Rodén (another ghost town near Fuentes), Vértice Sillero, El Frontón and Observatorio republican positions (where they stood the hughe 210 Tm bombing in march 9th 1938), old airdrome in Plenas...and many others.
If you want, I'm PMing you my phone number. I can give you a tour (not asking you to pay after all your help  ;D ;D ;D) if I can arrange a free day in my work.
About the non Spaniards...I captioned that one because of the 3 Korean girls.  ;D ;D This was a group coming from an International workcamp, there were Koreans, Ucranian, French, British, Czech, German and Turkish.

BTW, if you're reading this, DreamK, sorry for slipping so out of the topic here. Next time I promise we'll move this kind of conversations to History & Walkarounds.  :D

Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: David Prosser on July 07, 2012, 03:38:35 AM

Hi, Juan. I'd guess you're the guy surrounded by all the women. Cap, long hair, teal socks, and grey backpack. If I'm ever in Spain, I'll look you up, and take a tour at the going rate. Just experimenting with HSFX 6 at the moment. I had HSFX5, but I've forgotten a lot of the how to stuff. So, I'll read the forum. I want to see if it's as mod friendly as it's predecessor.

cheers

David
Title: Fix for missing loadouts
Post by: Birdman on April 02, 2013, 02:11:51 AM
These Koolhovens have most loadouts missing with current Arms_Spain folder, and because the ordnance update doesn't seem to appear anytime soon I extracted the missing files from older Arms_Spain. Just install the attached pack to your mod folder and you should have all loadouts available again for these Koolhovens and also Breguet_19HV. With this and all current Dreamk's Arms collections I now have all loadouts available for all Dreamk's planes. All credits to Dreamk because this is just a part of his old Arms_Spain collection.
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: FANATIC MODDER on April 11, 2013, 10:25:14 AM
This is great thank you!
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Alfie Noakes on April 11, 2013, 02:26:24 PM
Downloaded the Koolhoven and both variants perform beautifully with the new fixes (thanks to all concerned ).
One minor glitch... the Whirlwind engine seems to make very little noise, very faint (exterior) and silent (cockpit... apart from usual creaks from bodywork)
Curiously all other sounds...bombs and guns etc work well.
Jaguar engine sounds and performs perfectly.
Have downloaded 2 times and original model and fixed model both have same glitch.

Anybody else have this problem......or is it just me  :(

Cheers

Alfie
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: max_thehitman on April 25, 2013, 04:18:12 PM


THANK YOU for the new cool update gentleman! (http://serve.mysmiley.net/party/party0012.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-scared-smileys.php)

Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Semor on August 10, 2013, 07:04:07 AM
Works in 4.12! But the Engine Sound in the Engine Sound in the Whirlwind Motor variant is missing. Can someone please fix this?
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Vitamine! on February 22, 2014, 08:39:41 AM
The Koolhoven_FK51W is called "He45" in game.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q706/Lemming_0815/Koolhoven_FK51WisHe45_zpsce220588.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/Lemming_0815/media/Koolhoven_FK51WisHe45_zpsce220588.jpg.html)

How can I fix this?

Regards
Vitmaine
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: redfox on February 23, 2014, 01:45:20 AM
The Koolhoven_FK51W is called "He45" in game.

Can only be edited in class files. If I was near my main PC I'd do it for you, but I'm 1,000 miles away.....

Cheers - Redfox
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Vitamine! on February 23, 2014, 08:10:44 AM
Thank you for reply and offering your will to help :)

Yes, I already guessed, that must be one of the classfiles, maybe the FM-file of that plane?

My dream is to get permission learning coding/programming of class files (especially FM). There is so much to do, based on the java class files ...
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Dreamk on February 23, 2014, 01:12:49 PM
Indeed the Koolhoven 51J appears as such but the 51W appears with the name He45
as its class (Koolhoven_FK51W.class) includes mistakenly the line
Property.set(class1, "iconFar_shortClassName", "He45");
instead of
Property.set(class1, "iconFar_shortClassName", "FK51W");
I'll change that and upload a fix in the coming days
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Vitamine! on February 23, 2014, 04:00:26 PM
Thank you, dreamk  :)
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: slejsa on September 23, 2014, 04:10:22 PM
Works in 4.12 ;)
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: FL2070 on June 03, 2015, 02:36:24 PM
Code: [Select]
[8:33:12 PM] Spawn.get( com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Koolhoven_FK51W ): com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Biplanexyz
[8:33:12 PM] java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Biplanexyz
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Koolhovenxyz.class$(Koolhovenxyz.java:22)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Koolhovenxyz.<clinit>(Koolhovenxyz.java:748)
[8:33:12 PM] at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
[8:33:12 PM] at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.rts.Spawn.get(Spawn.java:39)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.rts.Spawn.get(Spawn.java:28)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.preloadAirClasses(Main.java:216)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1646)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1579)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:212)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:432)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
[8:33:12 PM] java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError
[8:33:12 PM] at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
[8:33:12 PM] at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.preloadAirClasses(Main.java:218)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1646)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1579)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:212)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:432)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)

I am running 4.12.2m.
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: henkypenky on June 04, 2015, 01:01:17 PM
Hi dirtbloxxMC, whats the problem?  Did you remember: To fly this plane you'll need to install the Spanish bombs. ?
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: FL2070 on June 04, 2015, 01:11:26 PM
Yes, I have the spanish bombs.
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
Post by: Dreamk on June 04, 2015, 04:28:09 PM
Which version of the Koolhoven have you installed - the original one or an adaptation? The log indicates that the mother class of the Koolhovens (Koolhovenxyz) calls for the class Biplanexyz - but It does not in my original mod.
 Biplanexyz is used as a mother class by other planes (Breguet XIX, Potez25, Osprey, Hispano E-30, Vildebeest) but NOT by the Koolhovens.
I would advise to re-download from the first post in this thread and reinstall completely - use AutoDiffFM or copy the FM files from the "parasol5" pack 4.09 adaptation by Epervier (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,26407.msg277616.html#msg277616), if you want to play in 4.12 (the mod was written for 4.10)
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: ROMULO on February 23, 2017, 02:30:35 PM
flying 4.13.2 sas modatc 6.2 grateful
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: Piotrek1 on August 04, 2018, 03:55:12 PM
With all due respect of Epervier's work , if is there any other way to have Koolhoven FK51 operating in 4.12 without installing an "parasol5"?.
Regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: beatlehans on September 01, 2018, 04:55:34 PM
I Wonder if the version with the Jaguar IVa engine wasn't a single seater. One of the story's I found on a Dutch modelplane site states that because of the embargo it was becoming harder for Koolhoven to get engines for the planes ordered by spain. He could lay his hand on second hand Jaguar IV engines from Armstrong Whitworth Argosy  airplanes. These engines were longer and heavier than the Wright engines. And so they had to move the seat of the pilot to the rearseat and cover the frontseat. Ten were delivered, the last six couldn't be delivered and were destroyed on may 10th 1940 when the Koolhoven factory was bombed. So I think we need a new 3d for the Jaguar version. And also a small adjustment in the classfile (only two guns in the wings) and FM (singleseater-just one crew and  slightly more fuel-room of frontseat was taken by extra fueltank-, and also the centre of gravity somewhat more in front.
(https://s8.postimg.cc/3l3qdr791/singleseat_FK51.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: Dreamk on September 02, 2018, 01:47:44 AM
No - There is a confusion here:

The Spanish machines were equipped part (11 machines) with an Armstrong Siddeley Jaguar (serials 5117, 5118, 5120 to 5129) and part (15 machines) with a Wright Whirlwind R-975-E1  (serials 51102 to 51107, 51109 to 51117)

The first FK-51 machine (ex-prototype, serial 5101) equipped with an Armstrong Siddeley Cheetah IX was also delivered to Spain

In addition an unique machine (PH-AMP, serial number 51108), equipped also with a Jaguar was delivered as a mono-seater with a closed cockpit. This transformation had been made at the Koolhoven factory to assess the possibility of using the FK-51 as a  mail plane. It would be soon re-modified in Spain into a two-seater, after a brief evaluation as makeshift night fighter.


Concerning the Dutch machines:

A) All the Dutch LVA (Army air component) machines were equipped with an Armstrong Siddeley Cheetah IX
1) the first 10 machines ordered by the Dutch LVA (serials 5102 to 5111), were unarmed training machines - similar to regular production but with a more rounded tail fin (except for the 5107 which has the definitive tail shape). Their rear fuselage is fabric-covered.
2) the 15 machines delivered to the LVA in 1937 (serials 5133, 5135, 5137 to 5139, 5143, 5145 to 5152) had a machine gun under the left upper wing, and the rear fuselage in aluminium
3) the 29 machines ordered by the LVA in 1937 and delivered in 1938 (serials 5162 to 5181, 5194 to 51101, 51123) had also a machine gun in the rear seat position.

These training machines had an optional cover for the rear seat position to train for night flight

B) The Dutch MLD (Marine air component) machines (serials 5112 to 5116, 5130, 5153 to 5161, 51124, 51125) were equipped with a Wright Whirlwind R-975-E1 and were delivered in three batches in 1936, 1937 and 1938.

C) The Dutch LA-KNIL ( Dutch East Indies Air component) machines were equipped with a Pratt and Whittney Wasp junior
They had 2 machine guns in the upper wing. A total of 60 machines were the subject of  4 successive orders, among these 45 machines reached the KNIL before May 40, the last 20 of these machines having enlarged wings. On the last order of 15 machines, 6 of these machines (serials 51146 to 51151) were under construction and destroyed in May 40.

Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: Vasya on January 07, 2020, 06:23:48 AM
NEW FM FIX/
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showpost.php?p=204271&postcount=2167
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: Piotrek1 on January 07, 2020, 10:29:14 AM
Thank you Vasya 8), I was waiting for this fix,
Best regards,
Piotrek

Дякую Васю 8), я чекав цього виправлення,
З повагою,
Піотрек
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: Hubberranz on January 20, 2020, 12:31:48 PM
..oh wow! Some performance at last!

Thanks Vazia!                           412
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: Vasya on January 22, 2020, 03:18:45 PM
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showpost.php?p=204594&postcount=2186
Fix beta.
"Minor roughnesses and errors fixed.
New fm and motors according to "my recipe".
Tx issue close to the original.
Part of the Frankenstein mods is selawy.
You can pour my fix in a folder convenient for you or create a new one
like mine, like:
Fokker_CX + Koolhoven_FK51 + Nieuport-Delage 52
Pour a fix and 3Do into such a folder from the Google drive above the link.
The mod did not pass the tests to the end - alas, health did not allow it."
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: Piotrek1 on January 23, 2020, 11:29:48 AM
Thank you Vasya, I've made some tests (3 or 4 and AI only) of the mentioned planes and so far everything works, only the gunner's silhouette in Fokker CX protrudes beyond the plane,
(https://i.postimg.cc/26HRJC1g/Jan-23-2020-3-33-19-PM.png) (https://postimages.org/)
the files you've shared I have put in one folder and above the installed planes, 
Should I add the cockpits and plane folders to the original aircraft folders and overwrite the files?

I wish you a speedy recovery.

Best regards,
Piotrek

Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: Vasya on January 23, 2020, 08:23:17 PM
Thank you Vasya, I've made some tests (3 or 4 and AI only) of the mentioned planes and so far everything works, only the gunner's silhouette in Fokker CX protrudes beyond the plane,

the files you've shared I have put in one folder and above the installed planes, 
Should I add the cockpits and plane folders to the original aircraft folders and overwrite the files?

I wish you a speedy recovery.

Best regards,
Piotrek
I do not know how to correct the wrong position of the arrow is a 3D, in which I have little understanding.
I mainly specialize in FM and motor correction.
Sometimes I fix code errors in classes.
The biplane fashion archives downloaded here - on SAS.
I folded the 3D folders into one - so much more convenient.
I uploaded a large 3D archive to Google Drive, but the same 3D files (biplanes) as in your forum are located there.
Therefore, it will be enough to leave the folders 3D original mods.
My fixes only apply to the flutmodels, motors, and some code changes in classes.
Thank you for using my fixes for virtual plane mods!
The fix will be adjusted further - oil and water temperature sensors must be set up correctly.
(Не знаю як виправити неправильне положення стрілка - це 3Д, в якому я мало розбираюся.
В основному я спеціалізуюся на корегуванні фм та двигунів.
Інколи виправляю помилки коду в классах.
Архіви з модами біпланів скачував тут - на SAS.
Папки з 3д я склав в одну - так більш зручно.
Великий архів із 3Д я виклав на гугл-діск, але там знаходяться ті самі файли 3Д(біпланів), що і на вашому форумі.
Тому буде достатньо залишити папки 3Д оригінальних модів.
Мої виправлення стосуються тільки флайтмоделі, моторів та деякі зміни до коду в классах.
Дякую, що користуєтесь моїми фіксами до модів віртуальних літаків!
Фікс буде ще корегуватися - треба настроїти правильну роботу датчиків температури олії та води.)
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: Piotrek1 on January 24, 2020, 08:59:14 AM
Thank you for answer Vasya, will it be possible to use them for each plane separately once you have finished all the amendments?

Дякую за відповідь Вася, чи можна буде використовувати їх для кожного літака окремо, коли ви закінчите всі поправки?

Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: Vasya on January 24, 2020, 11:16:21 AM
Thank you for answer Vasya, will it be possible to use them for each plane separately once you have finished all the amendments?

Дякую за відповідь Вася, чи можна буде використовувати їх для кожного літака окремо, коли ви закінчите всі поправки?

Best regards,
Piotrek
Adjusted the oil temperature sensors / instruments.
Now I'm trying to tune the supercharger (ATA) of the compressor.
The fix will be today-tomorrow.
My complete fix will cover four fashions.
What kind of mods do you have hashes / classes for separately?
(Настроїв датчики/прибори температури олії.
Зараз намагаюся настроїти прибор наддува ( АТА) компрессора.
Фікс буде сьогодні-завтра.
Мій повний фікс покриє чотири моди.
На який мод вам скласти хеши/класи окремо?)
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: Piotrek1 on January 24, 2020, 12:18:53 PM
Forgive me, Vasya, I misread your post :-[, but you already answered my question.

Пробач, Вася, я неправильно прочитав твій пост :-[, але ти вже відповів на моє запитання.

Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01 [4.10]
Post by: Vasya on January 24, 2020, 02:44:32 PM
Forgive me, Vasya, I misread your post :-[, but you already answered my question.

Пробач, Вася, я неправильно прочитав твій пост :-[, але ти вже відповів на моє запитання.

Best regards,
Piotrek
New additional fix for boosters and oil temperature.
Please try!
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showpost.php?p=204594&postcount=2186
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If I have the inspiration and health, then I will continue to correct fashion.
Regards!
(Новий додатковий фікс для приборів наддува та температури олії.
Будь-ласка, пробуйте!
Якщо в мене буде натхнення та здоров'я, то продовжу виправляти моди.
З повагою!
Вася.)
Vasya.