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Title: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: LuseKofte on April 26, 2012, 04:33:05 AM
(http://www.swift72.co.uk/images/SpitSim.jpg)

R.I.P. Bill Trezise

Not for competing with other sites , I would just have a collections of links and ideas on how to build an joystick and show people how easy and cheap it realy is to build switches and gadgets for giving the game more immersion. And after a reinstall of my pc I lost all my links to such sites
I am on my way to build myself a KG 13 stick from scratch, I am going to use a long time on it and make it as cheap as possible just for the fun of it
I buy this molded grip from here:
http://www.simparts.de/epages/15465782.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/15465782/Products/KG13A-0001/SubProducts/KG13A-0001-0001

For all switches witch you can buy anywhere, preferably touch buttons since our sim is not fond of on off switches. I use them too but with issues. These must be connected to a usb controller. and this is a very good one. http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836X/  That does not conflict with any known manufacturer of other usb devices

Homemade tuts
http://home.wanadoo.nl/norbert.bosch/

Electrics:
https://www.sparkfun.com
http://www.potentiometers.com/index.cfm
http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836X/
http://www.simparts.de/epages/15465782.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/15465782/Categories
http://www.phidgets.com/ (Theyre USB controllcard interfere with Logitech's product) But theyre sliders are really handy
http://www.flightdecksolutions.com

Replica and real Yokes, Throttles etc:
It is better priced real items from USA
http://www.wwiiaircraftparts.com/aircraft_throttle_quadrants.htm
http://www.desert-air.com/simparts/
http://www.johnweeks.com/boneyard/
http://www.forgottenfield.com/amg/armament/
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=ww2+aircraft+parts
http://stores.ebay.com/getnick/WWII-Classic-Aircraft-Parts-/_i.html?_fsub=17
http://www.seatejectcolor.com/seat/sedili/forsale/forsale.htm
http://www.depot41.com/PartsInPlanes.htm
http://chesapeakeairways.com/
http://www.shopeaa.com/amateurbuiltdecalsheet.aspx
http://cockpitinstrumente.de/instrumente-englisch/katalog/Katalogmenue/web/new%20site/frames2/KatalogMenue.htm
http://b17panels.com/id9.html

but here is a huge selection of real controlcollums and replica collums UK.
http://spitfirespares.co.uk/controls.html
http://www.gbairspares.co.uk/stock.htm

Custombuildt Pits / equipment/webshops
http://www.spitsim.co.uk/ http://www.swift72.co.uk/SpitSim007.htm
http://www.creativecockpits.com/
http://www.rainman.tv/index_files/rainman_helisim.htm
http://www.flypfc.com/
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ap/controlwheel.htmll
http://www.komodosimulations.co.uk
http://www.maxflightstick.com/
http://www.aeroart.de/en/artikel.php  (He has still his Web site, but it is closed. Use the E mail to contact him, he still got private stock)
http://www.simkits.com/
http://secure.simmarket.com/hardware-page-1.chtml
http://www.fspilotshop.com/index.php
http://www.rcsimulations.co.uk/shop/start

Pitbuilders Forums:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=ocb9ri5d2nvdpata12d2ovvvl2&board=18.0
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/81/1/Pit_Builders.html
http://www.ch-hangar.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?39-Sim-Cockpits
http://www.schiratti.com/dowson.html
http://www.fscockpit.com/
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?action=forum

Software
http://www.flightillusion.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=122:new-full-sized-setup&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=50

Museums, WW 2 aera sites

http://www.warbirdalley.com/links.htm
http://olive-drab.com/od_aviation_resources.php
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: LuseKofte on April 27, 2012, 01:12:58 PM
To get mmerson to a simulator, the most important things you need is the following. I mean before you got an throttle and after you got a yoke/ stick:

Rudderpedals
I have these, I can recomend them but I do not know if there are better in same price catogory
(http://www.saitek.com/uk/imgs/product/combat_main.png)

My pit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP4gGit93VU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-6y1Wtd60w
TrackIr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgXhu4aqMV4
(http://www.flightsim.no/shop/images/trackclip.jpg)

Then a throttle device. (I know I showed before, just love it)
(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/246572_598943516800761_542850316_n.jpg)

I tryed all and has landed on a yoke like this
(http://www.737yoke.com/pic/prod/1241653419297653.jpg)
But I wanted this
(http://www.swift72.co.uk/images/SS010.jpg)
That was a choise about economy, but I like mediumbombers , two engine fighters so Ill do well. The chessna yoke got 180 degree turn making it a easy controll for fighters. the CH yoke the turn is less and it is hard to small adjustments
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: BT~Tarik on April 27, 2012, 01:57:57 PM
Thanks for the links :) Your pit looks cool, I like the trim wheel  ;D
I'm thinking about getting pedals, its only the price  :-\ Bought myself a new computer and other stuff, so its kinda tricky. TrackIr would be cool too, but I guess Freetrack should go too, as its way cheaper to get  :D For now I use FT noIr.
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: LuseKofte on April 27, 2012, 04:21:32 PM
I did not bother with rudderpedals before, but I am telling you! you do not fly a windmillplane without it. And it is sertanly so in real life. Modern aera planes (jet's) does not require or at least seldom use of rudder. Warbirds you use it all the time. A twist handle joystick just does not do the work.
But as you say, it all comes with the money. My point is, what priority should you have. And I tryed everything up to days date in reasonable priced items, that is.

Priority for equipent should be in my expirience:
Joystick/ Yoke
Rudderpedals
TrakIr or similar
Throttle
other gadgets
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: BT~Tarik on April 27, 2012, 04:27:44 PM
Well right now I have X-52, so stick and throttle are there. And the FT no IR, but it is not always like I want it, because its very sensitive to light, and sometimes it just doesnt react, or does something I dont want it to do  ::)
I think I will put pedals and TrackIR on my next Birthday wishlist  :P
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: LuseKofte on April 27, 2012, 05:59:11 PM
TrackIr works flawless when the sun does not shine or you got a fireplace rigt behind you. One of the reasons why I moved my sim to a small room without windows  :)
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: Uufflakke on May 27, 2012, 03:11:44 AM
TrackIr works flawless when the sun does not shine or you got a fireplace rigt behind you. One of the reasons why I moved my sim to a small room without windows  :)


I have the same problem with my Freetrack setup. In summertime I've got sunlight coming from the right during morning hours, in the afternoon from the left and in the evening hours the neighbour's windows reflect sunlight on to my cam. The only time to fly during summer is when it's dark outside.

About DIY pits, what to think of this movable meccano made simpit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYOmygb5XtQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYOmygb5XtQ)

Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: LuseKofte on May 27, 2012, 03:43:52 AM
I have seen some of those, and I think it would be nice to do sometimes, but not all the time. I think it must be tireding turning and not having G forces to keep you in the seat all the time
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: mojojojo on May 27, 2012, 05:59:31 AM
id love to have one of those, but i just dont have the money or the skill. if those factors weren't important, id have a moving cockpit fully surrounded by monitors, and my joystick (which would hopefully be in working condition) would be fastened to the right side panel of the cockpit, with the throttle on the left side panel.
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: LuseKofte on May 28, 2012, 03:25:36 AM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a8_1338089607
this is a good one
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: mojojojo on May 28, 2012, 06:25:17 AM
awesome
Title: How is this for immersion?
Post by: rainman on June 11, 2012, 02:11:31 PM
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l519/ghost_rider05/trident8.jpg)
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: LuseKofte on June 30, 2012, 01:44:36 PM
Cool, it is sad that it might be a problem to get the gauge to work with IL2
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: bolox on June 30, 2012, 01:58:31 PM
gauges might not be quite as difficult as previously  ;)

http://www.flightillusion.com/

skip down the news section for info on new IL2 interface.

now you don't have to use my old udpspeed gauge sets :P
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: LuseKofte on July 01, 2012, 04:06:10 PM
Nice, thx for the info
Title: the other side of modding-new Workstation
Post by: Germy66 on October 20, 2012, 07:00:50 AM
finaly my new handmade workstation is ready to use :)

here are some pics

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img543/3527/img1069wh.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img407/9701/img1079ts.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img202/9665/img1076u.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img854/9830/img1072kh.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img407/5451/img1071x.jpg)

all is handmade includeing the Touchpad (48 buttons and 6 axes)

so i can send my old handmade Flightstick and pedals in retirement ;)

here are pics of my old handmade Flightstick and Rudderpedals

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img194/9034/1030334img.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img855/7379/1030344img.jpg)

make it small when not flying :D

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img822/5307/1030341img.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img84/953/1030348imgz.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img338/6016/1030352img.jpg)


here are pics of handmade things

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img853/7218/1020257img.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img4/3987/1020255img.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img831/4528/1020260img.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img145/1337/1020267img.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img69/4786/1030317img.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img528/9168/1030312img.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img713/4070/img1086wy.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img15/9463/img1084ef.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img6/3474/img0461vx.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img19/4964/img0460yc.jpg)


handmade shifter for raceing

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img198/9493/1020272img.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img841/5144/1020271img.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img440/4460/1020270img.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img197/9532/1020269img.jpg)

here is a archiv with highQualy Pictures
maybe there is interest to build something like that
http://www.2download.de/download-432773124021b504983e853ed7588fa6.php.Selfmade_Workstation.7z

Germy ;)

Title: Re: the other side of modding-new Workstation
Post by: RedSpade on October 20, 2012, 07:09:20 AM
Nice!  Beefy, high quality.  Are you taking orders?  ;D
Title: Re: the other side of modding-new Workstation
Post by: LuseKofte on October 20, 2012, 08:14:51 AM
Fantastic work, LIKE it
Title: Re: the other side of modding-new Workstation
Post by: Ghost129er on October 20, 2012, 08:20:27 AM
OMG! That's sick!!! (Positive!!!) That's really neat, not just your new one but old one too! I will have to consider doing one of these cockpit flight sim environments as I really feel different when flying like this. This is one of the things on my summer to do list (lets wait till July 25th :(  )
And as again:
(http://i.imgur.com/T3U5K.png)

Rick.

Awww. I downloaded the zip thinking its a how to build guide...
Title: Re: the other side of modding-new Workstation
Post by: kaxII on October 20, 2012, 08:43:00 AM
two words: Just Awesome...
Title: Re: the other side of modding-new Workstation
Post by: singüe on October 20, 2012, 08:54:28 AM
Yes, it looks impressive, a very well done equipement!
Title: Re: the other side of modding-new Workstation
Post by: gianluca on October 20, 2012, 10:48:42 AM
Hi Germy, nice this!
But I saw you had a real stick and gave it up for a normal joystick (I had that also and still have as back up): you are then renouncing to a real feeling (I mean arm movements and feelings a real stick deserves).
May I ask why?
No critics intended of course, it´up to you what to do, just plane curiosity!

Best regards,

Gianluca
Title: Re: the other side of modding-new Workstation
Post by: Wildchild on October 20, 2012, 10:58:35 AM
You use your logitech pedals for rudder pedals??

How?!?!?!
Title: Re: the other side of modding-new Workstation
Post by: LuseKofte on October 20, 2012, 11:30:40 AM
(http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad32/finno2/111.jpg)

This is my current setup, I await arrival from some Spitfire buttons and some from avro Lincoln. Since I like yoke and not stick I also wait for this from canada ordered a week ago

(http://www.737yoke.com/pic/prod/1241653419297653.jpg)
Title: Re: the other side of modding-new Workstation
Post by: RedSpade on October 20, 2012, 12:59:17 PM
This is a cool topic.  Perhaps a future sticky topic.  It would really be cool if it turned into a "How To" or "This is how I did it".  To have separate throttle controls for multi-engined, gangable if desired, is a dream of mine.  LeOne, I like the way you got it set up there.  Nice.
Title: Re: the other side of modding-new Workstation
Post by: LuseKofte on October 20, 2012, 02:10:28 PM
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,25156.0.html
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: Germy66 on October 21, 2012, 03:20:32 AM
First thank you all for the nice words ;D

to Ghost:  sorry no build-guide inside the Archive :( only HighRes Pics but they                       
               may give you a little help for planing your cockpit. :-\

               i did build my new Cockpit in summerholiday and it is not so hard to do,
               and the good thing is, i have done all of the work in my garden  8)with   
               beautiful weather.You need only a table-circular-saw and a long electrocable.

               the hardest thing of all  :-[will be to tell your girlfriend or wife that you
               need 5 days of summerholiday to build a cockpit. :(

               1.day:  buy a cheap PC-Table 40€ (mine has wheels so i can put it easy everywhere
                          i want,its good for housecleaning and you can roll it to have a free way to your
                          connections on the backside of your PC   
                   
                          make a plan of your cockpit
                          what it should have and how it should look? touchpat,joystick ect...
                          i have my old touchpad so i must only integrate it.
                          measure what size it should have to fit with your PC-Table
                          make a little drawing with your Measurements.
                          go an buy some wood-panels,woodglue and sandpaper and paintingspray  25-30€
                             
              2.day:   by good weather take the table-circular-saw outside the house,
                         you can enjoy the sun and the house stays clean. ;D and your wife is happy :D
                         cutting all parts that you have drawing.
                         this will take some time  :P
                         make a break, drink a little beer, smoke a cigarette and think
                         about the next steps.

              3.day   glue all parts and perhaps make last corrections
                        you can do this outside the house by beautiful weather.
                        rest of the day you can relax in the sun with a beer and a cigarette
                        and think about the next step. :o

             4.day:  making holes for cables buttons rotating pots ect....
                       finetuning with sandpaper by machine or with hand
                       you can make this outside,so the house stays clean and you can enjoy                     
                       the good weather.
                       painting the cockpit.

            5.day:  make the electrical work, cables on buttons rotating pots
                       making a layout with photoshop for the touchpad
                   
                       ready! :-\

                       For building a touchpad you can find some tuts with google i think
                       when i build my touchpad there where no usb-controller available.
                       today with usb-conroller available its a easy job to build a tochpad
                       you only need to connect your buttons and pots with cables to your
                        usb-conroller.
                        look here by LeOnes post by Electrics:
                        http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,25156.0.html

                       i hope this is giving you a little ambition to do your project ;D


to gianlucabagatti: you have right with the real feeling of my old flightstick and rudderpedals,
                          the arm movements and feelings a real stick deserves.
                          but now im older and want it more comfortable. ;)
                          second reason was to switch in less than a minute from a flight cockpit to my raceingwheel
                          I can take out the cockpit forward and can put in my raceingwheel and gearshifter
                          that are mounted on the PC-Table-Panel.
                          that is also the reason to use my raceingpedals as rudderpedals




to Wildchild:         You can use your logitech pedals for rudder pedals when you put a hook by combined Pedals
                          in the logitechsoftware of your wheel
                          so you can use the acceleration and break pedal as rudder
                         
to LeOne:            I like the pic of your throttle device ???
                         that really inspired me to build me one ;D
                                     
greetings Germy!

Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: marcost on January 06, 2013, 09:37:01 AM
Decided to build a switch panel/cockpit instrument board. Thanks for the links LeOne  :)
I'm going to use 12v components, powered by 12v and linked to a LeoBodner board by relays. Then to IL2 via SVMapper so that I can use proper toggle switches  ;D

I have cut the dash shape from 5mm MDF. Got one of these as my first panel:

(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o642/socran65/20130106_135015_zps0c5c1fae.jpg)

Hmmm how to make it a little more period.... spray with auto 'aluminium' can paint

(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o642/socran65/20130106_135159_zps9e4f7932.jpg)

Leave it only an hour and spray with auto matt black. Should encourage a little reaction between the paints. Then leave the black for an hour and start poking and scraping with fingernails, soft wood, light sanding with 1500 wet&dry paper:
(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o642/socran65/20130106_155431_zps5a94c817.jpg)

Wish I had sanded the original text before sanding but it's not as obvious in RL.

Happy so far...TBC... :)
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: LuseKofte on January 06, 2013, 10:30:46 AM
Nice
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: marcost on January 06, 2013, 03:06:51 PM
Markings on and starting to blend them in...
(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o642/socran65/20130106_213527_zps2c99ebec.jpg)
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: marcost on January 21, 2013, 04:18:54 AM
Some more WIP shots  :)

2mm aluminium panel and a couple of switches
(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o642/socran65/20130119_190732_zps4c9ceb3b.jpg)

Trim wheels and gear lever (not final lever  ;) )
(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o642/socran65/20130119_190909_zps0b69b996.jpg)

Flaps switch and cover for gear lever
(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o642/socran65/20130119_191015_zps4af0e02c.jpg)

Back of the panel. Bu0836x goes on the flap at the top. Black Velcro pads stick top to the bottom of the monitor
(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o642/socran65/20130120_155035_zps976ffe4b.jpg)

In place and wired up for testing. Works well  ;D
(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o642/socran65/20130121_105129_zps2717e399.jpg)

Regards,

M
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: marcost on January 27, 2013, 04:44:30 AM
Drilled & painted and most components in place...
(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o642/socran65/20130127_113414_zpsb683f03d.jpg)


Just needs wiring up  :o ...Next update in two years  :P
(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o642/socran65/20130127_113639_zpsce8bb471.jpg)
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: BravoFxTrt on January 27, 2013, 04:53:46 AM
Marcost, when are you going to mass produce, I want?

Lol jk.  Very impressive good friend!
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: marcost on January 27, 2013, 09:38:26 AM
Thanks Bravo  ;D

Well my wife says I haven't even got time to make this one  ;)

Didn't take too long to wire and worked first time woohoo

Ready for takeoff and I can see the tailwheel lock is on coz it's lit up  8)

Haven't calibrated the flaps switch yet...

(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o642/socran65/20130127_163054_zps59047b60.jpg)
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: BravoFxTrt on January 27, 2013, 10:29:33 AM
Thats just downright awesome, Nice going!
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: Germy66 on September 21, 2013, 10:28:05 PM
Marcost, this is a very very nice build cockpit ;)
i like handmade things :)
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: marcost on September 22, 2013, 02:20:54 AM
Thanks Germy, it's getting plenty of use  ;)
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: Stryker7 on October 21, 2013, 07:57:50 AM

Didn't take too long to wire and worked first time woohoo


Yeah, amazing the work you did there, taking a pre-built panel for a car, and wiring it into a simpanel. And the wiring it up took just a few minutes ? I guess that you did some research prior to doing the wiring, and that took how much time ? Probably several days right ?


BTW, that sub panel is this one right ?

http://www.conrad.fr/ce/fr/product/701903/Panneau-de-Commande-pour-Voiture-R18-Q1A-SCI-R18-Q1A-23B423L3R17100L/SHOP_AREA_17385 (http://www.conrad.fr/ce/fr/product/701903/Panneau-de-Commande-pour-Voiture-R18-Q1A-SCI-R18-Q1A-23B423L3R17100L/SHOP_AREA_17385)

and the switch with LED is one of these ?

http://www.conrad.fr/ce/fr/product/700561/Interrupteur-bascule-R13-404L-Bl-SCI-R13-404L-BL-LED/SHOP_AREA_17385 (http://www.conrad.fr/ce/fr/product/700561/Interrupteur-bascule-R13-404L-Bl-SCI-R13-404L-BL-LED/SHOP_AREA_17385)

Especially figuring out how to use the relays to switch power to the 12v portion of that sub-panel, while maintaining the 5v opeartion with the Bodnar board.

Figured it out all that wiring by yourself ? Damn that is great.

I would have had to sought out some help from someone, ordered parts suggested by them, and then it would have been extra nice if that someone had even provide me with a wiring diagram to wire it up. Say like at the Bodnar forums.

You do not have a wiring diagram for that do you ? One you would care to share ?

Wish I knew how to do something like that.  :-X

Stryker7
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: marcost on October 21, 2013, 02:11:31 PM
Hi Stryker,

Thanks for your kind comments! It was very satisfying to get it working.

Yes I had to experiment with the wiring on the workbench to understand how to do it. Once I worked it out, it was a quick job to solder it up.

Connections going straight to the Bodner are basically two wires - one is the common 5v which goes to one side of all the switches which arean't on the 12v circuit (i.e. not illuminated). The other side of the switch just needs a wire direct to one of the terminals on the Bodner that signifies a button. These switches can be from anything - no voltage or amperage restrictions, just metal to metal contact is enough to make it work.

The lighted switches are all automotive parts so require 12v supply, which is from an old laptop PSU. The relays are therefore rated 12v too (cheap auto ones). One side of the 12v supply goes to one power terminal of the relay, the other side goes to the switch and back (when switch thrown) to the other power terminal of the relay. So, flicking the switch on energises the relay and also lights the switch. The common 5v of the Bodner goes to one relay switch terminal and the other terminal of the relay switch goes to the Bodner board button terminal, so that when the relay is energised the Bodner connection is made as well but not on the 12v side of the relay.

I think this is the exact panel

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Racing-Car-12V-Ignition-Switch-Panel-Engine-Start-Push-Button-LED-Toggle-3018-/140955370965?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item20d19845d5

Yes the switch with LED is like the one you linked, but it is included in the panel above so you don't need to buy both (it's under the red cover on the left).

Sorry I don't have any wiring diagrams but I can take photos and draw a few sketches if you get stuck

Regards,

m
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: snachito on November 12, 2013, 12:53:17 PM
Great topic, info, pics!!! Marcost, Germy and Leone, you guys gave me some great ideas for my cockpit, so thank you!!
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: Aracno on January 16, 2014, 08:22:08 AM
Hi all.
Just finished, hope you like it.
Economical (30 euros for wood, glue and paint), and elegant enough to silence my wife  ;)
Next will be stick and rudder support.

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/v2/1024x768q90/5/u9bg.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/v2/1024x768q90/690/omvk.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/v2/1024x768q90/855/vkxh.jpg)
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: marcost on January 16, 2014, 10:08:19 AM
 :o fantastic, it matches your furniture! Very good job

Decorative and functional!!

Regards,

M
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: Aracno on January 22, 2014, 08:22:24 AM
Thanks marcost.
I think i used the wrong thread to show my pit, i saw the correct one (Show us your Face, your Cockpit & your Ride!) too late.
Work done.

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/v2/1280x1024q90/843/am4z.jpg)
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: Aracno on February 09, 2014, 07:23:06 AM
Seat added, project finished.

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/a/img547/8733/i7wx.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/v2/1024x768q90/560/i4wb.jpg)
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: marcost on February 09, 2014, 07:53:57 AM
Aracno, looks great!
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: Aracno on February 11, 2014, 02:28:18 AM
Thanks Marcost!
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: farang65 on February 11, 2014, 04:03:40 AM
Gees Aracno

Really superb pit there.  :D ;)

If I went the whole hog and did just that my wife word have more than a few words to say with the subject

Awesome pit though  ;)

Kirby 
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: LuseKofte on February 18, 2014, 09:34:37 AM
Fantastic. If I did not enjoy my Yoke so much I would have replicated your creation
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: Aracno on February 19, 2014, 06:46:04 AM
Thanks guys.
In the meantime I did the keyboard support.
9 euros of wood.

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/v2/1280x1024q90/543/esch.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/v2/1280x1024q90/713/b77m.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/v2/1280x1024q90/849/86sz.jpg)

(http://www.sas1946.com/images/imageshit/v2/1280x1024q90/593/mbzn.jpg)
Title: Re: Simbuilding tutorials/ links
Post by: BravoFxTrt on February 19, 2014, 06:51:19 AM
Very Cool! Congrats.