Special Aircraft Service
Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => Jets => Topic started by: SAS~CirX on October 10, 2009, 08:17:20 AM
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(https://storebror.it.cx/sas/archive/sasdl/SASMODS/Ar234NGJR.jpg)
Ar-234B Nachtjaeger, 1944 by Slow
I only found out today that this is one of Slow's girls. I originaly got it from C6 pack, but never looked at the credits then. I was debugging it a bit while beta-testing the HSFX4 pack, and so fixed the LOD issue with the pod, and started just fiddling here and there. Added also a new default skin by Graf.
This is a very fun mod to have and play with, so enjoy it!
DOWNLOAD AN ARADO NACHTJAGER v2 (https://storebror.it.cx/sas/archive/sasdl/SASMODS/Arado_234_NJGRv2.7z)
Fixed AI behaviour in v2, now behaves like fighter.
Credits to:
3d Edits and Original Mod by Slow
Importing help by Magot
New ClassEdits, Texture Colors, LOD Fix, Cockpit Hier & POV Edit by CirX.
Default Skin by Graf
Use "switch crew position" button to look through forward gunsight.
air.ini:
Ar-234B-2NJ air.AR_234B2NJ 2 NOINFO g01 SUMMER
plane_ru.properties:
Ar-234B-2NJ Ar-234B Nachtjaeger, 1944
weapons_ru.properties:
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# Ar-234B-2NJ
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Ar-234B-2NJ.default Default
Ar-234B-2NJ.2xtyped 2xType D Droptank
Ar-234B-2NJ.none Empty
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For anyone interested, Arado were planning a night fighter version, the 'P' series. All had two or three crew and most were intended to have four engines. The P-3 is the nearest match with two Hirth turbojets.
plane_ru.properties:
Ar-234B-2NJ Ar-234P-3, 1944
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:o :o :o
Thanks CirX! :)
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Caldrail , this plane is a historical representation of improvised night fighters based on the Ar 234 B-2.
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couple more bugs here:
Where the gun is. You can still see the part where the centerline bomb was. If this was real they would have covered it up.
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couple more bugs here:
Where the gun is. You can still see the part where the centerline bomb was. If this was real they would have covered it up.
Would they? All were hastily-made conversions, don't forget that.
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Caldrail , this plane is a historical representation of improvised night fighters based on the Ar 234 B-2.
Quite. I've just improvised a P-3 :D
It is an interesting point though. The Germans had a tendency to use bomber airframes since there were so few suitable airframes available for night-fighting. The reason essentially is that early radar sets were horrible devices that required a dedicated operator. In your conception, the pilot has to fly a demanding twin engined jet and still find time to operate a radar scope. In reality, this wasn't going to happen, which is why multi-seat aircraft were adopted for this role (and the failure of the He219 to see wider service is down to internal politics and strategic decisions, bearing in mind that bomber airframes were available and falling into disuse).
The night fighter versions planned by Arado all had at least one extra crewman. It had already been noted that the airframe could handle more power than originally designed, hence the prototypes with four engines. Such was the advantage that all but one of the projected 'P' types had four.
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Hope I can help out with a little information.......
Specifically, the aircraft was designated "Ar 234 B-2/N". The first airframe converted was W. Nr. 140145, by Deutsche Lufthansa. The 'special electronics' systems fitted were....... FuG 350..... FuGBl 2...... FuG 120... and Siemens FuG 218 Neptune radar. The fuselage gun pack was fitted with two 20mm MG 151/20 cannons.
This aircraft was the first of three to be built. This aircraft flew from the Oranienburg Airfield (piloted by Hptm. Josef Bisping) from December 30, 1944 to February 13, 1945 when it crashed during takeoff, killing both crewmen. "Several" night fighter missions were flown with this aircraft. The second crewman position was just aft of the wing, seated facing 'aft' in the fuselage.
As far as I know the other two aircraft intended for this three plane night fighter Kommando were never completed.This is 'single source' information and may not be complete.
Dennis
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Would they? All were hastily-made conversions, don't forget that.
yes they were hastily made. but the Germans were (forgive the stereotypeing) very efficient and would have covered it up with atleast some type of cloth. although at speeds above 20km/h it wouldn't matter it still would have been covered.
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How do get to the gunsite on this baby?
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Shift-F1 if memory serves me correctly.
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Darn, just tried it out and you're right crazyflak, I need some new memory modules :P
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I can loan silva my glasses
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This is quickly becoming my favorite jet to fly. Thanks Cirx!
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This plane works in my 4.10 + SAS modact 2.5b install. I tested it in QMB and FMB.
FW
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This plane gives me a new outlook on the Ar-234! Possibility of Stationary Aircraft?
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This plane works in my 4.10 + SAS modact 2.5b install. I tested it in QMB and FMB.
FW
Perfectly or are there any conflicts with 4.101?
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No works great in410.1 with modact2.7
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I have not looked at the aircraft mods very closely yet, been busy with the sounds and cockpits and stuff first, I know with some there will be some errors and conflicts. This one SHOULD be fine. I am not sure yet. But if it works, great, if you hit a problem, remove it and see if it is solved, then we know for reference. :)
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Well she flies true, cant say the same for her aim! ;D
(http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t322/dotson_kc/il2fb2011-02-2808-58-43-66.jpg)
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CWMV; I take it the A/C was trimmed to fly as straight as possible, with 'clear weather' with next to none side-wind. Oh well, till its fixed, think of it like this, if you difelction aim the cross hairs on the fuz, the off-sight impacts should hit the port wingroot/engine.
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IAF. 116 ~ Jagr,
yes they were hastily made. but the Germans were (forgive the stereotypeing) very efficient
OK with me, Stereotyping is GREAT because it saves a lot of time in redundant explanation.
Stereotyping is not racist.
Most stereotypes are not used to imply that one ethnic group is subordinate or superior to another,
just that ethnic groups have certain characteristics and to deny theses characteristics is absurdity.
No one has the right not to be offended. Old sayings are old & are still in use because there is usually some degree of truth to them.
Unless you are PC, and well, then in that case, the truth doesn't matter, it what "feels good" that matters.
If you are PC and the assertion that the world is round offended some people then
you would be obliged to agree that the world is in fact flat when in their presence,
so long as that assertion didn't offend some other perpetually offended group.
IE: Sasha Cohen's characters would not be funny unless there were based on true stereotypes.
If there was no degree of truth to his characters, well then he would not have made 44, Million USD with his movies.
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g403/wateratty/sacha-baron-cohen-as-bruno_423x303.jpg)
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g403/wateratty/Borat-flag.jpg)
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You are right it would have been covered for any type of production model.
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g403/wateratty/412-Arado_Ar-234B_Night_Fighter.png)
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g403/wateratty/1010c-2.jpg)
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g403/wateratty/AscaniwithArado234-2.jpg)
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CWMV; I take it the A/C was trimmed to fly as straight as possible, with 'clear weather' with next to none side-wind. Oh well, till its fixed, think of it like this, if you difelction aim the cross hairs on the fuz, the off-sight impacts should hit the port wingroot/engine.
Oh ya trimmed straight and true, but I hadnt considered the weather conditions.
Weather is modeled differently than in 4.09 isn't it? In 4.09 with the plane trimmed it would fly straight no problem, in 4.101 I actually had my 219 flying sideways!
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OK with me, Stereotyping is GREAT because it saves a lot of time in redundant explanation.
Stereotyping is not racist.
....mg]
This post is a....
http://m2.wnymedia.net/files/2009/08/Borat_Great_Success.jpg
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CWMV; I take it the A/C was trimmed to fly as straight as possible, with 'clear weather' with next to none side-wind. Oh well, till its fixed, think of it like this, if you difelction aim the cross hairs on the fuz, the off-sight impacts should hit the port wingroot/engine.
Oh ya trimmed straight and true, but I hadnt considered the weather conditions.
Weather is modeled differently than in 4.09 isn't it? In 4.09 with the plane trimmed it would fly straight no problem, in 4.101 I actually had my 219 flying sideways!
oh my goodness I can see it now:
hey george
yes
take a look out the port window
yes sir
can you see a hun pointing his guns at my cockpit while flying sideways?
I knew I wasn't high!
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Guys are you going to make a regular gunsight for it ill be really glad I love this plane so much but the only con it has is its bad aim :( PLEEASE IF YOU EVER HAVE TIME ADD A GUNS?GHT UPDATE
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Nice night fighter! I wanted to mention that after the crash of an Ar-234 in Bispin (the pilot was blinded by a spotlight from below), all remaining fighter were"rebuilt" the lower half of the window was painted black.
Later, the planes were stained completely black.
The plan was it to build a modified model, the Ar-234 P1 this should get an armored front and a new radar maybe FuG-240 "Berlin".
http://xplanes.free.fr/ar234/ar234-7.htm (http://xplanes.free.fr/ar234/ar234-7.htm)
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Guys are you going to make a regular gunsight for it ill be really glad I love this plane so much but the only con it has is its bad aim :( PLEEASE IF YOU EVER HAVE TIME ADD A GUNS?GHT UPDATE
Press the "C" button
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I also love this machine, and am impressing it into post war soviet service in a project. Ivebeen aiiming by just estimating and getting really close, just discovered the scope site. :P
the only major problem i have wiht it is that it appears that the AI versions all still have bomber AI; i can't get my wingman to attack, he just says' "unable". I hope you might be able to correcxt this at some point, as it's got alot of potential as an AI in misns. 8)
I never even kneew of the NF version. Im amazed teh soviets didnt copy the design, as im having them use the bomber in my 1948 east/west project.
would love to use teh NF as an AI if it had fighter AI inits brain.
thanx for all this work in any event. I love the 234. Love teh 4 engine version to. thanx....
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Tried this for 4.12, seems ok other than the landing gear not working.
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Tried this for 4.12, seems ok other than the landing gear not working.
It´s true. The landing gear don´t work. Probably its a conflict with the version i think.
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412 have a different gear code because have the legs acting differently....all older version that don't work must be updated....I'm sure they 'll be done in the next future , atm modders are working towards main game stability and main mods debugging....after that planes 'll start to be updated....
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Works in 4.12 :)
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Tried this for 4.12, seems ok other than the landing gear not working.
Still no chance to have the gear retraction working?
Please....
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agree, but was wundering if an arado pack could be made to incldue this and the c version located here along with any other avriants for modact 5.3?
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....this is another good idea!!!
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Anyone have a working link for this crate, please?
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the link works just dl this bird 1 minute ago. Check on your end
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the link works just dl this bird 1 minute ago. Check on your end
I used the link. It downloaded a 7z file which 7zip could not open. I'll try it again later when I am done working on my 4.12 install/map debugging & fixing.
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upgrade to the newest 7zip in 32bit or 64 bit depending upon your computer that might be the problem.
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If y'all are using 4.12, the arado pack has this and the 4-engined C model with all potential 4.12 bugs fixed. Just saying. And that link is active, last time I checked.
Ta183Huckebein
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Sorry, forgot the link: https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,37893.0.html
Ta183Huckebein
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Thank you Huck :)
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I have put together a campaign for this nightfighter too:
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/Poltava/arado234-logo_zps08dda7d8.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Poltava/media/arado234-logo_zps08dda7d8.jpg.html)
It is 6-mission static minicampaign, set in the winter of 1945, during the last months of the Third Reich. You are pilot flying the Arado Ar-234B Night fighter variant. As we all know, the multi-purpose version of the Arado 234 was never used operationally in the war. But the aircraft was however contemplated as a Night Fighter. And it was actually used in that role as well, by a small experimental nightfighter unit, “Kommando Bisping” in southern Germany, during the last ten weeks of the war. They operated without much success, as the type was less than ideal for this role. See this campaign as a simple "what-if", postulating that the same improvisation that was performed by Kommando Bisping also took place in the Berlin area.
The campaign is essentially a variation of my Me 262B1 campaign "Kommando Welter", but with some modifications.
You can find it here: http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads3&file=details&id=2027
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I've got her flying in 4.13...... 8)...lookin good! ;D