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Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Skins, Maps, Missions & Campaigns => MapWorx (Common) => Topic started by: w on January 27, 2011, 05:20:02 PM
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Phlegaton: I have merged your two Moscow Map request topics .
So this is the one Moscow Map topic now.
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There was, and possibly still is, a project for a 1941/42 Moscow map at Aviaskins. Last I checked, there were no custom objects and it wasn't populated, though.
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I have assembled the Aviaskins Moscow map using the files posted in the topic, but it is at best a pre-alpha map- no roads, bridges, buildings etc. at all apart from those on the actors.static I borrowed from another map. Seems there has been no published work on this map for about 6 months. The area selected is good, very good indeed from an historical viewpoint so here's hoping it will be completed some day.
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The necessary files can all be found in the Aviaskins topic with the exception of the load.ini and actors.static, so you can easily download them yourself :) http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?t=552
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The necessary files can all be found in the Aviaskins topic with the exception of the load.ini and actors.static, so you can easily download them yourself.
I checked out that thread. The map seems very rough and is unlikely to be finished anytime soon. It would almost be simpler to just use the Aviaskins thread for historical research (lots of good downloads of period Russian and German maps) and start from scratch.
Moscow might be more challenging than some maps, though, because to do it right you'll need a lot of custom objects - the Kremlin, Red Square and lots of other historic landmarks.
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The area is huge. Moscow itself would take an immense amount of work, particularly with custom objects. Only the area to the west of Moscow is relevant to the actual fighting, unless you wish to do a PVO campaign or a "what if".
I have been working on the area to the west of the subject area of the Moscow map for months and the beta will probably be ready in a few weeks.
In short, a vast amount of work for an area of limited importance.
And that leaves aside the issue of fps drag over an object-rich area such as a mega city.
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1. Complete Moscow MapI did. And it actually very crude beta
2. The project is closed by me definitively how not to recognize difficult it. A map necessary, for fight modeling for Moscow (operation the Typhoon)
3. It is ready to give materials available for me and the information, to that who will decide to finish this project
Yours faithfully
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Landing on Sherementievo last year and Moscow is one of the biggest and most beautiful cities, seen from the air at least.
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The area is huge. Moscow itself would take an immense amount of work, particularly with custom objects. Only the area to the west of Moscow is relevant to the actual fighting, unless you wish to do a PVO campaign or a "what if".
I have been working on the area to the west of the subject area of the Moscow map for months and the beta will probably be ready in a few weeks.
In short, a vast amount of work for an area of limited importance.
And that leaves aside the issue of fps drag over an object-rich area such as a mega city.
Thats GREAT news! Keep it up!
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Poltava, I will help any way I can, adding roads, trees etc
Between December 4th and 6th 1941, Russian Police, farmers and an anti tank crew reported observing
3 German Horchs and another unidentified armored vehicle with large antenna in a small
development that is today called ( Lapino ) west of the river reka Medvenka -
a low level unidentified German twin motor aircraft was circling above , then went south.
Upon reporting this to military authorities in Moscow they were told they told
they were lost and they actually saw the Germans in Zvenigorod.
Zvenigorod was radioing Moscow that small German units were near or possibly in parts of Zvenigorod which is 63 Km from the Red Square
but there was no way the Germans were in the area called Lapino today which is 35 Km from Red Square.
A suppressed report made available in 1999 mentioned civilians reporting Germans in an area called Lukino today, which is 28 Km
from Red Square. Russian AA Crews in an area in Moscow called Pobedy Park today said they opened fire on Bf 110's during the 1st week of December.
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How project of Moskow map runs at moment You can Look here http://dispersalfield.ru/main/index.php/topic,696.0.html (http://dispersalfield.ru/main/index.php/topic,696.0.html)
I work on Moskow objekts Textures (Kremlin and so on)And we start another topick for Moskow objects http://dispersalfield.ru/main/index.php/topic,733.0.html (http://dispersalfield.ru/main/index.php/topic,733.0.html)
Just what you need is Google translator If needed any special comments send PM and ask for .
(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4526/68328967.0/0_5819f_82091982_XXL.jpg)
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/Ready%20tow03.jpg)(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/Air/WK0102.jpg)(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/Izben/Nabat02.jpg)(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/Izben/Nabat03.jpg)(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Trains/Loco001.jpg)(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/Izben/Church01.jpg)(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/Wall/TTower00.jpg)(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/Izben/Dom2__00.jpg)
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/Izben/Silrada00.jpg)
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Amazingly speachless!!!
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I hope you find time and energy to complete it! It will be GREAT!!!
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Beautiful! :o 8)
It must be a heck of a job this project.
Especially when it comes to populating and creating all kind of new objects to make it look like as it was during those days.
The default Moscow map was a disappointment to me when I flew over it the first time.
There was no Moscow at all.
Looks very promising already...
(http://s019.radikal.ru/i618/1204/0e/240d7b1acbc7.jpg)
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;D This map is excellent news for the entire IL2 community -
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Any word on the long awaited complete Moscow map ?
If it's a 1:1 Its a monster WIP I'm very sure.
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:o
Here's the original thread --- for a Moscow Map that was being worked on -
Anyone in the know hear about the progress on this ambitious project , or if they need help with it?
How project of Moskow map runs at moment You can Look here http://dispersalfield.ru/main/index.php/topic,696.0.html (http://dispersalfield.ru/main/index.php/topic,696.0.html)
I work on Moskow objekts Textures (Kremlin and so on)And we start another topick for Moskow objects http://dispersalfield.ru/main/index.php/topic,733.0.html (http://dispersalfield.ru/main/index.php/topic,733.0.html)
Just what you need is Google translator If needed any special comments send PM and ask for .
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That project is really so ambitious
Oknevas make great textures for map in 2 seasons Autumn and winter.
Molva is 3D maker Me all textures for 3D.
For moment is ready map with populated(historicaly accurate) villages and minor cities
Left Moskow downtown (Red square and 3-4 churches and more)
(http://forum.aviaskins.com/picture.php?albumid=15&pictureid=888)(http://s019.radikal.ru/i636/1206/bf/32868dc0c240.jpg)
That was before I make textures for last 8 Kremlin towers
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/October/Vodovz.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/October/Troickaya.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/October/Komendantskaya.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/October/Borov.jpg)(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/October/Tajnickaja.jpg)(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/October/BlagoveschT.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/November/1_Anonimous.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/November/Gun_tower.jpg)(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/November/KKutsT.jpg)(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/November/2ndAnonimous.JPG)
(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6612/68328967.1/0_7fe21_48dc043d_XXL.jpg)(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6413/68328967.1/0_7fe28_477b1668_XXL.jpg)(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6401/68328967.1/0_76426_5d14f8b4_XXL.jpg)(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6306/68328967.0/0_6dce3_e4c09029_XXL.jpg)(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6309/68328967.0/0_6dce7_7b8407f6_XXL.jpg)(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6312/68328967.0/0_6dcea_4a3b23fd_XXL.jpg)(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/October/PRVZ_V-3_00.jpg)
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This was a few months back - I hope there is good progress !! ;D
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img405/8785/moscowd.jpg)
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Don't ask me what they talk about but they are still working on it...
The only thing I can do is to watch the images to get an idea of the progress. :D
http://dispersalfield.ru/main/index.php/topic,733.new.html#new (http://dispersalfield.ru/main/index.php/topic,733.new.html#new)
But as you know we already have a topic about this map. ;)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13333.0.html (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13333.0.html)
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Found at the pages of Moscow map, I recommend to see this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJrz-6r7Bc0&feature=player_embedded
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Thanks for the help!
Briefly about the project:
1) Oknevas-author of the project (textures: winter and autumn, construction, airfields (I think 57 pieces, all new) ( map is -80%)
2)3do modeling (MOLVA (you know for his work- the new MiG-3, Yak-3, biplanes WW1 and a lot of objects)
3)Texturing for new facilities - Greif 11 (you know him at works - cockpits Bf-109, 110, Ju-87, 88, the new locomotive, new textures tanks).
4) Besides helping a large group with ZAP and Aviaskins.
It would be unfair if I did not point out someone
I think Oknevas (on freedom of time) describe the state of the project and the project team.
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Hi Uzin,
thank you very much for this "Moskau-movie-link". ;D
Wbr, Gerhard
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neat video link - hope the map is progressing well
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Status on a complete Moscow Map here is the Russian site link - copy and paste into Google Translate tool
for translations
http://dispersalfield.ru/main/index.php/topic,696.0.html (http://dispersalfield.ru/main/index.php/topic,696.0.html)
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How it progressed now ----We so close.
(http://s017.radikal.ru/i418/1302/0e/6ef4af3899de.jpg)
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Many thanks for helping with merging the request and the modworx Moscow topics
to one topic Greif! ;)
Phlegaton please see first post.
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I regulary visit Dispersalfield.ru and it seems that you and Oknevas poop out a new 3D object everyday.
The Tsar cannon is my favourite one. 8)
(http://s49.radikal.ru/i124/1302/3b/ea50c1149e4f.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/December/ScreenShot%2027.jpg)
If there is one map I'm eagerly waiting for it is the Moscow map! :) 8)
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Today Progressing
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/December/grab0009.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/December/grab0010.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/December/grab0006.jpg)
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Really impressive!
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wOw! magnificent objects created! The Kremlin! with tomb of the unknown soldier too! such detail...even the cannon...it looks much bigger in real life haha! Bolshoi Teatr! Such detail given to landmarks is impressive. Moskva slava!
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Greif that look wonderful Mate.
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Amazing! :)
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AWESOME WORK - MANY THANKS FOR MERGING THE POSTS - 8)
It is great to finally be this close to having the Moscow map that should have been in IL2 4.07 FMB & QMB - :o
This map is the result of many great IL2 modders in many different countries working together
over coming language barriers etc for the enjoyment of the entire IL2 community of faithful followers -- MUCH THANKS !!!
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BEAUTIFUL cities on new map Greif11 8)
SUPERB!!
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Anyone know if this map will be released in next 6 months?
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Anyone know if this map will be released in next 6 months?
why 6 months?
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Anyone know if this map will be released in next 6 months?
I understand your impatience. It remains to complete the missing objects of Moscow. After I will provide links and hope map will meet your expectations (http://dispersalfield.ru/main/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS2/az.gif)
(http://s07.radikal.ru/i180/1302/28/8c51e8781f4d.jpg)
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(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/Mos%20release/grab0000.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/Mos%20release/grab0001.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53506654/Maps/Moskow/Mos%20release/grab0002.jpg)
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Amazing!
You're doing a very good work!
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Cor that looks nice !!
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OMG it will be awesome.
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Work on the map though delayed, but not stopped. On turn St. Basil's Cathedral. I started
(http://s53.radikal.ru/i140/1302/3b/51c871dfdb6a.jpg)
what's new - hotel "Moscow"
(http://www.oldmos.ru/upload/photos/8/2/d/800_82d942f91f9298ab02c9bf766e39ed89.jpg)
(http://s40.radikal.ru/i087/1302/1f/4769e74902a9.jpg)
(http://s017.radikal.ru/i428/1302/4c/a1e9c91be4fa.jpg)
(http://s43.radikal.ru/i100/1302/52/62bd64f3bf77.jpg)
(http://s020.radikal.ru/i707/1302/7b/bf57118757e6.jpg)
(http://s001.radikal.ru/i193/1302/b7/ef110b9d3a30.jpg)
(http://s42.radikal.ru/i098/1302/72/6bdff161d9dc.jpg)
(http://s018.radikal.ru/i516/1302/a1/80ff5c481a82.jpg)
(http://s020.radikal.ru/i709/1302/2c/b6f3d431f9f2.jpg)
(http://i051.radikal.ru/1302/2b/60a3ae833d85.jpg)
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Beautiful Man, cant wait. :)
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GREAT Beautiful work Oknevas and all the team members involved in making this amazing map,
I really like it. Such beautiful details! 8)
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Thank you for your feedback. I finished painting the texture of St. Basil's Cathedral, is the result
(http://s019.radikal.ru/i619/1303/0b/b81a79192a26.jpg)
(http://s58.radikal.ru/i160/1303/fc/262d03db3861.jpg)
(http://s017.radikal.ru/i416/1303/1f/0413eafe6779.jpg)
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This is all so beautifully made, no one will ever want to bomb Moscow ...
What wonderful work.
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That cathedral in the game is beautiful. Very good art!
I like the details in this map very much.
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Fantastic skinning and modding!
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Simply wonderful. I'm speechless.
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I don't want to clutter the thread with more posts, but I have to say:
ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC WORK! :)
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Mr. Crazyflak is right. And yes, you'll get lot's of praise-clutter on this thread if you keep this up. :)
I can't wait!
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Hi Oknevas,
great work, but more buildings have wrong smoothing group´s. It´s a darkened place on mesh.
Have you checked any 3dsmax tutorial how work with this? Want you post it?
Models and textures looking good.
regards,
mag
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Amazing, just amazing. You guys rock!
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Thank you for your feedback. On the smoothing - all will be fixed(http://dispersalfield.ru/main/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS2/az.gif)
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Very beautiful objects being created. I'm looking forward to its completion.
How large will the map be. Similar to Berlin, with a small area around the city, or larger?
Ashe
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Map covers the area from the eastern borders of Smolensk and to the western borders of Moscow. Operation Typhoon to the main direction of the impact will be possible
Map of large scale slightly less than 1:1 (map_T - 2304:1856 pixels)
(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6610/68328967.1/0_7fe1a_2f24ea5b_XXL.jpg) (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/gruppa-df/view/523802/)
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Wow! That is a vast area. It will be tremendous for campaigns.
I love the look of that map with the authentic stamps in the corner and the weathered appearance.
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Wonderful ED map, and the area is really vast. Looking forward to defend Moscow on a Mig-3.
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yep a map expected !!!
great job
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I'm really looking forward to this map, another treasure after your Donbass map. I like very much the earthy colours!
I hope one day you will make a map covering the area between Lakes Peipus and Ilmen, one of the last large areas of the eastern front without a map.
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I hope one day you will make a map covering the area between Lakes Peipus and Ilmen, one of the last large areas of the eastern front without a map.
Part of you request could be considered to be covered by so called Estonia map WIP, see
here:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,28840.12.html
I have no intention to hijack the admirable Moscow pages. I hope Oknevas would accept these my apologies.
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Uzin, I follow the development of your map with interest :) Here I was thinking of a map stretching much further east, to cover the airbases at Dno, Soltsy, Staraya Russa and Spasskaya-Polist, perhaps even a little bit more beyond the Lake Ilmen. It was (and probably still is) a scarcely populated wilderness, huge forests and lakes, a picturesque area to fly over.
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This will be the Mother of all Maps -
The special building objects for city center are works of art !!! - paint colors are excellent,
The river bank looks like Moscow in the 1720's , both sides of the the river banks in the city center
need bridges and : Moskvoretskaya Embankment or naberezhnaya, & Kremlevskaya naberezhnaya
Then hit the rural landscape with the most current Bumph files and it is Greatness.
;D
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Excellent project!
Really looking forward to it.
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Beta of this wonderful map has been released :):
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,34490.0.html (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,34490.0.html)