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Title: Hawk III Frankenplane. [4.09] [4.10]
Post by: RealDarko on August 19, 2011, 03:25:56 AM: After tons of work on the plane, designing the features it need to have, skins, Fm, etc... Finally here it is! the Hawk III frankenplane for all the Sino-Japanese war buffs. Plane came with both 4.09 and 4.10 slots and a fantastic static plane to bomb Chinese airbases with your Japanese light bombers :D I want to thank Epervier by his outstanding efforts on slot and FM, Melissa by doing the main part of the 3d edition and that was a huge task, also Ranwers, Ton and Archie by some 3d details that rounded the final product and finally Hayate by the amazing skins for this bird!! A no markings skin is included in the download together a couple of USN skins al by Michel Meilland.
Well, no more words, hope you guys like it.

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20705491/Hawk-III_v1.5.7z

Thanks to ton414 from Freeil2modding we have now a better 3d model with solved hole!!

https://www.mediafire.com/?rdllkvt7yequv3g

And some pics.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/grab0000-56.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/grab0001-30.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/grab0002-16.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/grab0000-58.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/grab0001-32.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/grab0002-17.jpg)

Enjoy!

The new version of the plane came with a better 3d shape and no engine cover courtesy of Ranwers and Archie!!

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/archie_cz/SKINS%20IL2/Beznzvu2.jpg)

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: cgagan on August 19, 2011, 04:08:31 AM: Great addition! Congratulations and many thanks to all involved!!!! 8)
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: SAS~Malone on August 19, 2011, 04:16:41 AM: niiice!! thanks, guys! 8) 8)
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: SAS~Riken on August 19, 2011, 04:38:46 AM: Awsome job guys! What a beauti ;)
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Epervier on August 19, 2011, 05:22:54 AM: I'm really sorry! :-[
RealDarko is a bad boy! :P
He never gives me the name of the co-authors!
Result, the readme of this aircraft does not mention all the authors!
RealDarko, we will have to develop a procedure to ensure that all authors are cited in other aircraft being manufactured! ;)
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: SAS~Malone on August 19, 2011, 05:43:06 AM: yes, RD, it's vital to credit wherever possible. let's hope it can be resolved quickly.
now for a question:
is it just me, but when i go into gunsight mode (Shift+F1) it looks like it is too far zoomed out, and the target is a distant speck....
i can post a screenie, if necessary, if it is isolated...
ok, screenshot:
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/hawkgunsight.jpg)

i have Twister's POV padlock mod, possibly a conflict? anyone else with this?

other than that, all seems to check out nicely, and i had a real blast taking on a few Sally bombers with this plane! great fun! 8) ;D
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: TT on August 19, 2011, 05:59:35 AM: why this is not using 4.10 I-15 cockpit?
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Epervier on August 19, 2011, 06:41:36 AM: Quote from: SAS~Malone on August 19, 2011, 05:43:06 AM
is it just me, but when i go into gunsight mode (Shift+F1) it looks like it is too far zoomed out, and the target is a distant speck.... ok, screenshot
You have a problem ... :-[

(https://www.mediafire.com/file/w1nc87mi1k7b3sn/763579HawkIII.jpg)

This Hawk use old (4.09) cockpit I-15bis !
To mark a difference from the cockpit (4.10) I-15bis !
But it is RealDarko decide!
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: CzechTexan on August 19, 2011, 07:37:01 PM: ah! wonderful little plane. big thanks goes to the team that made this!
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: tancw19 on August 19, 2011, 09:41:33 PM: Well done! Thanks for your work! Downloading it.
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: flying scotsman on August 20, 2011, 01:37:46 AM: :) Nice one & were these not also the most colourful planes of the 1930's, skinners heavean too

THANK YOU
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Riptide_One on August 20, 2011, 02:18:09 AM: RealDarko,

Is this plane intended to work in Dark Blue World? If so, are any adjustments to the installation instructions as given required?

Cheers,

Riptide
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Mission_bug on August 20, 2011, 03:16:07 AM: Superb RealDarko, thank you very much.

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm42/Mission_bug/HawkIII1-1.jpg)

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm42/Mission_bug/HawkIII2-1.jpg)

Riptide_One, I had a CTD when I installed in DBW so the mod would appear to be set
for 4.09, just needed to take the FM file out of the 4.10 folder and paste over the one
in the mod.

Works perfectly. ;)

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: RealDarko on August 20, 2011, 09:29:14 AM: Glad you liked it Bug! I liked the "no engine cover skin" possible to adapit it on this skins?

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/grab0000-57.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/grab0001-31.jpg)
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Riptide_One on August 20, 2011, 09:35:04 AM: Hey Pete,

That worked like a charm! Flying the Hawk-III in DBW now. Thank you very much for your help.

Ok, where did you get those great skins? I really would like to start a skin collection for this plane.

RealDarko,

I've flown the Hawk-III and on behalf of us "Sino-Japanese War" buffs, I want thank you for adding this fine flying machine to IL-2:). Exceptional work!

Here's my wingman and I over Anhui Province:
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/San_Chuan/2008201113-55-36.jpg)

My plane with the town of Taihu in the background:
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/San_Chuan/2008201111-33-42.jpg)

Cheers,

Riptide
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: RealDarko on August 20, 2011, 11:31:30 AM: I'm waiting the Dornier 17 as hack for the G3M Nell, then we will be able to fly a good campaign with the Hawk III BTW is that map Hankow by Agracier?
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: SAS~Poltava on August 20, 2011, 04:26:16 PM: As Realdarko knows: I have a chinese campaign for the Hawk III in preparation :)
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Riptide_One on August 20, 2011, 06:58:55 PM: RealDarko,

Yes, that's agacier's Hankow Map. One of my favorites. Wish we had more China maps.

Cheers,

Riptide
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: RealDarko on August 21, 2011, 02:28:25 AM: Quote from: Poltava on August 20, 2011, 04:26:16 PM
As Realdarko knows: I have a chinese campaign for the Hawk III in preparation :)

;)
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Riptide_One on August 21, 2011, 03:41:03 AM: RealDarko,

I am happy to say that your Hawk-III has what it takes to bring down the A5M.

(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/San_Chuan/210820115-19-11.jpg)

Having flown your Hawk-III a little, I would like to offer you a few comments for your consideration as possible revisions. Note that I am not a modder and I do realize that this is a Frankenplane which may impose some limitations on refinements that can be made. Please know that my intent here is to provide constructive comments and that I do respect the amount of work and skill that you put into this plane to be able to share it with the IL-2 community. Also, I do respect the right of the modder to decide what the final configuration of his mod will be.

1) I found a small gap on the left, underside of the plane, but, its not very noticeable in my opinion.

(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/San_Chuan/210820113-59-58a.jpg)

The right, underside has no gap.

(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/San_Chuan/210820114-01-02-1.jpg)

2) The default skin includes Chinese roundals. When you check "Markings on" for a given plane, the additional roundals that game puts on the plane do not align with the roundals included with the default skin.

(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/San_Chuan/210820114-54-43.jpg)

The Chinese roundal is also partially visible when a different nationality is selected.

(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/San_Chuan/210820115-10-32.jpg)

Also, the default skin includes the number "80". Since the game will put a number on the plane if "Markings on" is selected, I would recommend that numbers not be put on default skins.

(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/San_Chuan/2008201113-55-36.jpg)

There is a work around for this. After re-reading your correspondence with Mission Bug, I realized that the skins for the I-15bis work on your Hawk-III.

China:
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/San_Chuan/210820116-41-34.jpg)

Spanish Civil War:
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/San_Chuan/210820116-13-18.jpg)

3) There is a bulge in the bottom of the Hawk-III that disappears when it if viewed from a distance.

Close up:
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/San_Chuan/210820113-39-09a.jpg)

Further away:
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/San_Chuan/210820113-39-37a.jpg)

4) First of all, thank you very much for including a stationary plane. It's very much appreciated.

The stationary aircraft skin is the same as the flyable aircraft's skin. Here again, in my opinion, it would be better to let the game put numbers and roundals on the stationary planes.

(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/San_Chuan/210820114-06-20a.jpg)

Once again, thank you very much for the Hawk-III!

Cheers,

Riptide
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: archie1971 on August 21, 2011, 03:56:59 AM: (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/archie_cz/SKINS%20IL2/Beznzvu2.jpg)

small fix alpha channel
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: RealDarko on August 21, 2011, 04:19:44 AM: Riptide for the skin you can change the default skin for one of your wish. I know I did long time ago and it was not hard, sure someone more interested in skinning will remember the procedure to change the default skin. The Bulge problem is related to the Franken nature of the plane, not sure If it can be easily solved, but I really doubt it.
Archie did you erased the engine cover of the original I-15 bis? If yes, can you please send me the fix so I can add it as a downloadable option on the first post? Of course If you give your permission.
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: archie1971 on August 21, 2011, 04:55:31 AM: no problem I'll send you a pm
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: RealDarko on August 21, 2011, 05:36:39 AM: First post updated!! Thanks to Archie now the engine cover is modified, please update the plane If you want!
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Riptide_One on August 21, 2011, 05:40:02 AM: RealDarko,

I'll look into changing the default skin. Otherwise, no worries. I am enjoying your Hawk-III just as it is now :).

Cheers,

Riptide
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: RealDarko on August 21, 2011, 05:43:09 AM: I'm trying to get a skin without upper roundles or numbers Riptide, I will upload it together with some skins and you can use it as default skin. Wait a bit please.
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Ranwers on August 21, 2011, 05:44:27 AM: Few simple imptovements... longer plane, shorter engine.
Thanks Darko for this plane.
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif) (https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

If you need - just say :)
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: RealDarko on August 21, 2011, 05:50:01 AM: All help is really apreciatted Ranwers and that improved look really cool. Do you think you can fix the gap that Riptide noted here too?

(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m609/San_Chuan/210820113-59-58a.jpg)

If you want to share the modification I will update the download.
Again THANKS mate!!
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Riptide_One on August 21, 2011, 06:05:31 AM: RealDarko,

There is a blank skin (I-15_China_38_blank.bmp) for the I-15bis at Mission4Today.

http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads2&file=details&id=5267
(http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads2&file=details&id=5267)

Cheers,

Riptide
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Mission_bug on August 21, 2011, 06:42:20 AM: Hello all, here are the Thai skins I made some time ago following a request from RealDarko.

http://www.4shared.com/file/2Ik8CAgC/Hawk_III_Thai_skins.html

I had to make a template from the I-15 Bis void which is included, for PSP and PSD.
The PSD file will open in Gimp. Please leave credits in place.

RealDarko, my solution to the engine wasn't quite as subtle as Archie's, I did explain
how it was done at the time, see the template. ;)

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: RealDarko on August 22, 2011, 11:03:14 AM: First post updated!! Please redownload!! Better 3d shape, no engine cover and three more skins included. Enjoy
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: cgagan on August 22, 2011, 11:30:18 AM: Hi, your new version does not appear in game (FMB or QMB); the game loads fine, when I select the Hawk, nothing appears and when I click on 'fly', I get the scenery picture usually related to no cockpit issues. I run a SAS 3.6 mod activated game. Many thanks again,
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Joberg on August 22, 2011, 11:36:30 AM: Just had this same issue. I was worried it was something I did. Hope it get corrected soon! Until then I still have the first version you put up, this is a fun plane!
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: RealDarko on August 22, 2011, 11:49:04 AM: Checking now, thanks for telling me.
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: RealDarko on August 23, 2011, 02:09:58 AM: Epervier found the error and the download is updated again. Thanks for telling me. Apreciatted.
BTW I think the updated planed really deserves the download.
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: RealDarko on August 23, 2011, 06:58:24 AM: Thanks to ton414 from Freeil2modding we have now a better 3d model with solved hole!!

https://www.mediafire.com/?rdllkvt7yequv3g
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Murray on August 23, 2011, 08:02:59 PM: Excellent work!
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: SAS~Malone on August 23, 2011, 11:21:46 PM: a fine of example of good teamwork between modders and members alike, great to see, guys!
and we all benefit from an improved result. ;D
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Scharnhorst1943 on August 25, 2011, 10:36:47 PM: any chance this plane could get a tailhook?
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: RealDarko on August 26, 2011, 04:25:08 AM: Quote from: Col. King on August 25, 2011, 11:48:02 PM
With a proper skin pack, it would be a very interesting subject...

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/grab0001-32.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/grab0002-17.jpg)

Hook not on my hands, maybe Skipper?
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Dangerousbuzz934 on August 26, 2011, 11:14:18 AM: what kinda weapon load out does it have?
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: ryanx111 on August 26, 2011, 11:22:47 PM: look like a i-16 mixed with a wildcat with no door
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: gianluca on August 27, 2011, 04:55:16 AM: hi RealDarko and all the guys here! where is possible to get those beautiful navy skins? do thry fit the new model v1.5?
thks for the beautiful work!
Gianluca
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: RealDarko on August 27, 2011, 07:06:28 AM: Yes Gianluca, the skins are included in 1.5 download IIRC.
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: gianluca on August 27, 2011, 07:37:29 AM: thks!
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: David Prosser on September 08, 2011, 07:13:51 AM: Quote from: RealDarko on August 19, 2011, 03:25:56 AM
Fullquote snipped by Admin

[DJP] I just installed it in HSFX 411. Works just fine. You can even see the stick and rudder moving according to your control inputs. Thanks for this new plane.

cheers

David Prosser[/b]
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: David Prosser on September 20, 2011, 09:32:59 AM: Quote from: cgagan on August 19, 2011, 04:08:31 AM
Great addition! Congratulations and many thanks to all involved!!!! 8)

[DJP] Thanks for this plane. I used QMB Pro to select a Khalkin gol career, and used the Hawk III for several missions. [HSFX 4.11] As expected it's outpaced by the Ki-27s. It's probably best to fly at 80% power most of the time. Don't close the radiator. It doesn't like dogfighting at lowish altitudes. Expect it to overheat fairly quickly.

cheers

David Prosser
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: tangofoxtrot on September 23, 2011, 10:16:57 PM: Really enjoy flying the Hawk III, although it took me a few tries to get the takeoff right. I had a couple of questions. First, I can’t figure out how to retract the gear; it cycles fine on autopilot, but neither the gear toggle key nor the manual up/down keys do anything. Second, I assigned one of the Goshawk skins in FMB, and it shows up there correctly, but when I run the single mission, the skin is the default.

I’m a newbie, so these are probably both errors on my part. Any help would be appreciated. I’m running DBW bld1.6 and the 4.101 FM.
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: RealDarko on September 24, 2011, 01:31:53 AM: You need to assign a key or key combo for manual raise and deploy landing gear on control menu. For the skin, If is happening on the plane you control, remember to select it while on Arming screen before starting the mission.
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: agracier on September 24, 2011, 02:04:02 AM: Quote from: tangofoxtrot on September 23, 2011, 10:16:57 PM
Really enjoy flying the Hawk III, although it took me a few tries to get the takeoff right. I had a couple of questions. First, I can’t figure out how to retract the gear;

You do indeed have to assign a key in the controls section ... there are 2 commands, manually raise / manually lower gear ... assign something easily remembered and still unused, like for instance <ctrl>+G / <shift>+G ... and also remember, by hitting these newly assigned keys just once, the gear will not raise or lower itself.

Much like using an old fashioned crank, you have to continually keep on hitting these keys until you get the message 'gear lowered' / 'geared raised'. I haven't counted how many times is necessary, but I would think something around 20 times is what I do ...

You'll hear a whirring/cranking sound as you do this and should you be looking at an outside view of the plane in F2 for instance, you will gradually see the gear being raised/lowered.

This is a well done little bit of simming, nicely atmospheric of what must have been for the pilots a strenuous task of cranking or turning a lever somewhere while trying to keep the plane level.
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: SAS~Riken on October 06, 2011, 08:18:03 AM: Just a heads up... link is dead.
Quote
http://www.gamefront.com/files/20705491/Hawk-III_v1.5.7z
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Epervier on October 06, 2011, 09:11:52 AM: The site is not reachable!
It was not until ...
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on October 06, 2011, 02:09:59 PM: 4 me is working.....
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: SAS~Riken on October 07, 2011, 04:36:07 AM: working now ;)
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: CzechTexan on October 17, 2011, 02:13:52 PM: Are there plans to make the FB2C Goshawk carrier-based plane? I'm assuming the Goshawk had a tailhook. Would it be easy to add the tailhook to this mod?

EDIT: not needed now. I found the Curtiss F6C4 to use as a carrier based plane.
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Sillius_Sodus on December 26, 2011, 01:45:43 PM: Hello,

I get the dreaded 60% ctd after I installed this aircraft. I have the latest buttons file (9.5), though it crashed with the previous buttons file as well. When I disable the entry in the air.ini file the game starts normally.

I'm not sure what I'm missing here, it's the first time I have encountered this problem.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Epervier on December 26, 2011, 02:27:33 PM: The archive contains two folders (409 & 410) containing a file FM.
Did you copy the correct FM file in the folder of the aircraft according to your pack?
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Sillius_Sodus on December 26, 2011, 03:27:25 PM: Quote from: SAS~Epervier on December 26, 2011, 02:27:33 PM
The archive contains two folders (409 & 410) containing a file FM.
Did you copy the correct FM file in the folder of the aircraft according to your pack?

Thanks SAS~Epervier, It took a few tries since I wasn't sure where the fm file should go but I figured it out and it works now.

Thanks again for your help!
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: SAS~Poltava on December 27, 2011, 02:28:41 AM: My campaign for this nifty little aircraft will be posted in a day or two :) It is set in the first 6 months of 1938 during the Sino-Japanese War, and uses Agraciers "Central China" map.

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/Poltava/yangtze_hawks-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: gianluca on December 27, 2011, 04:03:58 AM: Quote from: Poltava on December 27, 2011, 02:28:41 AM
My campaign for this nifty little aircraft will be posted in a day or two :) It is set in the first 6 months of 1938 during the Sino-Japanese War, and uses Agraciers "Central China" map.

Edited by Admin Team !

Looking forward for this Poltava!
(Central China= Hankow?)
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: SAS~Poltava on December 27, 2011, 05:09:54 AM: Yes, the one with Hankow/Wuhan on the far left of the map :)
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: gianluca on December 27, 2011, 07:39:43 AM: very very nice project: I already have (and playing) three sets of missions of the same theatre so I'm eager to have yours (supposedly as beautiful as ever!) now!
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: gianluca on January 22, 2012, 09:13:41 AM: I wanted to post this earlier but..... the gun sounds are "sonar like" in my install: could someone suggest me a way to improve this? which gun sound should be right, 303 or 50 or something else? thks a lot!
Gianluca
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Sillius_Sodus on June 18, 2012, 01:48:49 PM: Hi Poltava,

I'm really enjoying this campaign, those Ki-10's are tough opponents but otherwise the Hawk is a very stable gun platform. It will be interesting t see how the Dewoitine fairs, (I've noticed a few similarities... ;).
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane.
Post by: Semor on August 13, 2013, 09:33:19 AM: ..and the Party goes on. This Plane works to 100% in 4.12 !

:D
Title: Re: Hawk III Frankenplane. [4.09] [4.10]
Post by: Stephen on June 27, 2016, 06:57:22 AM: Will be possible have in a new link, the original is inoperative, the FM foe 4.09?

Thanks a lot.

Best regards.