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Battlefield - Airborne - Tactical (BAT) => BAT Tech Help => Topic started by: glibble on March 10, 2018, 10:01:09 PM

Title: wrong P-51 markings
Post by: glibble on March 10, 2018, 10:01:09 PM
Hi All,

This is my first request, so go easy on me  :)
In the aircraft arming screen, I propose to have two separate toggle buttons: one for enabling the national insignia, another for enabling the aircraft number/letter code.

As you can see in the below screenshot, we currently only have the "Markings On" toggle, which turns on the roundel and the aircraft number at the same time. The misplaced roundel ruins the otherwise good aircraft numbering.
(https://i.imgur.com/48KgvKP.jpg)

I remember back in the days, IL2 MAT manager used to have a similar function. I'm hoping to have that flexibility again.

Thank you,
glibble
Title: Re: Seperate toggles for insignia and aircraft number
Post by: Moach on March 12, 2018, 11:19:52 AM
+another!

I'm having lots of that same problem
Title: Re: Seperate toggles for insignia and aircraft number
Post by: vpmedia on March 12, 2018, 01:11:44 PM
That is a markings bug.
Title: Re: Seperate toggles for insignia and aircraft number
Post by: Moach on March 12, 2018, 03:04:29 PM
Is there any known way to fix it?   

The affected planes (in my case) are the same P51D types as shown above.  Namely the "AAA" pack, which seems to have it such that markings include roundels on those models. Whereas other US-built planes usually feature only the numbering.

I have looked into the Hier.him structure and the mesh and material files with my trusty notepad++ [ducttape-screwhammerwrenchknife-omniappropriate-master-tool-of-universal-problemsolving], but could not isolate any particular file or specific part of a file which would correspond to the markings overlay.  Without a fully capable 3d modding pipeline, it is a very cryptic issue to resolve. 

I would rather not have to go over gigabytes of software and hours of setup to address this if anyone has already figured it out.
Title: Re: Seperate toggles for insignia and aircraft number
Post by: SAS~Gerax on March 13, 2018, 05:21:55 AM
Giggle, seems to me this is only partially a request, its more a tech help issue.
vpmedia is correct, its a bug.

When I see the aircrafts name in the pic in post #1 its BAT, right?
So I will move this topic to the BAT tech help section and rename it there.

And for the request to have some features of MAT Mgr in BAT or wherever,
please make a new request with way more infos and pics (not all members
and modders here know MAT Mgr) of what you want exactly.

Thank you.

Edit: Its a BAT WAW issue. I tested the (stock Games) P-51D-20NA,
in (BAT Pathfinder) JTW: no wrong Roundel, but in WAW there it is.
Also I do not have this issue in vpm's modpack or in 412 MA 5.30.
For other versions I do not know. 

Maybe some other P-51 mod(s) in WAW are the cause?
Maybe a modder who understands this better knows more?
Title: Re: wrong P-51 markings
Post by: vpmedia on March 13, 2018, 07:48:20 AM
You could extract the files of the P-51D (3do\Plane\P-51D-20NA(USA)\...) from the stock sfs files and put them in the #WAW folder. Maybe it fixes the problem, if not then it's probably java related .
Title: Re: wrong P-51 markings
Post by: Flying H on March 13, 2018, 03:17:23 PM
By the way, I have the IL2 Mat manager installed and it seems to work with BAT. Although it´s been some months since I flew, have been busy getting into The BoX series lately.
Title: Re: wrong P-51 markings
Post by: glibble on March 13, 2018, 08:21:57 PM
Hello All,

I appreciate the comments from SAS~Gerax and Vpmedia to move this thread BAT tech help, but the issue is not only with P-51.
I only showed the P-51D as an example.
Therefore I would prefer to keep my original request under the "Requests" section.

For other examples,
(https://i.imgur.com/WKbZG8w.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HoUBnVZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/s0ck0O4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QTGEXTj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/60Bf6O9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/e66DW5f.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Jd3Oclc.jpg)

I understand a lot of them could be fixed by either changing the default skins or changing the marking locations, but instead of going through the trouble, wouldn't it be simpler to give the user flexibility to turn the roundels or numbers on/off seperately?

Just a thought.

As always, I'm grateful of what SAS community already provides :)
Title: Re: wrong P-51 markings
Post by: Ranwers on March 14, 2018, 06:01:52 AM
@ B-24, Meteor, Beau - it looking like someone add in meshes wrong overlays. Insignia vs letters.