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Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => Other_Singles => Topic started by: Dreamk on August 30, 2012, 04:29:57 PM
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A Talvisota pack is unthinkable without the Fokker CX with a Radial Pegasus engine and skis - so here it is. At the same time I upgraded the Fokker CX Hispano with a new Dutch bombs pack so as to make a Netherlands campaign or a Java campaign more historically correct.
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img18/7149/talvisota5.gif)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img836/7695/talvisota6.gif)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img819/7043/talvisota7.gif)
For those who installed the previous release of the Fokker CX Hispano - it's always better to wipe the previous install (don't forget to wipe also the previous weapons_ru.properties entries) and install the new versions
These planes need the new Finnish and Dutch bombs installed to be flown correctly
Download links
_FokkerCX
https://www.mediafire.com/?s2hzc2hdlw2lf8w
_Arms_Dutch.rar
https://www.mediafire.com/?w055259g0srwn78
_Arms_Finland (for those who have not yet installed them)
https://www.mediafire.com/download.php?kvl4sbngsr6tdtv
Edit by: SAS~Mission_bug.
Note: Also needed to make the ordnance appear on the Hispano aircraft is a weapons pack released with another aircraft.
Russian Bombs:
https://www.mediafire.com/?5f6m1qkdvxz2l87
air.ini
FokkerCX air.FokkerCX NOINFO i01 SUMMER
FokkerCXP air.FokkerCXP NOINFO i01 SUMMER
plane_ru.properties
FokkerCX Fokker C.X (Hispano), 1935
FokkerCXP Fokker C.X (Pegasus), 1937
weapons_ru.properties
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# FokkerCX
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FokkerCX.default Default
FokkerCX.4xFAB100SV 4 100kg FAB100SV (Russian)
FokkerCX.4x100KgMijn_No1 4 100kg Mijnbom no1 (Dutch)
FokkerCX.4x100KgMijn_No2 4 100kg Mijnbom no2 (Dutch)
FokkerCX.4x100KgMijn_No2Marine 4 100kg Mijnbom no2 Marine (Dutch)
FokkerCX.2x200KgHE 2 200Kg Mod.1930 (French)
FokkerCX.2x200KgMijn_No1 2 200Kg Mijnbom no1 (Dutch)
FokkerCX.2x200KgMijn_No2 2 200Kg Mijnbom no2 (Dutch)
FokkerCX.2x200KgMijn_No2Marine 2 200Kg Mijnbom no2 Marine (Dutch)
FokkerCX.8xFAB50SV 8 50kg FAB50SV (Russian)
FokkerCX.8x50KgMijn_No2Marine 8 50kg Mijnbom No2 Marine (Dutch)
FokkerCX.8x50KgMijn_No2 8 50kg Mijnbom No2 (Dutch)
FokkerCX.8x50KgMijn_No1 8 50kg Mijnbom No1 (Dutch)
FokkerCX.16xR25 16 25kg R25 (Hispania)
FokkerCX.16x25KgMijn_No2 16 25kg Mijnbom No2 (Dutch)
FokkerCX.8x25KgMijn_No1+8x25KgSprang_No1 8 25kg Mijnbom No1 & 8 25kg Spranbgbom No1 (Dutch)
FokkerCX.none None
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# FokkerCXP
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FokkerCXP.default Default
FokkerCXP.4x100m38 4 100kg m38 (Tolfvan)
FokkerCXP.2x250m30bis 2 250kg m30bis (Tolfvan)
FokkerCXP.4x100M30Bofors 4 100kg m30 (Bofors)
FokkerCXP.4x100m30 4 100kg m30 (Tolfvan)
FokkerCXP.4x100m37 4 100kg m37 (Tolfvan)
FokkerCXP.8x50m37bis 8 50kg m37bis (Tolfvan)
FokkerCXP.8x50M30+2x25m30 8 50kg m30 + 2 25kg m30 (Tolfvan)
FokkerCXP.12x25M30+4x15m30Inc 12 25kg m30 + 4 15kg Incendiary m30 (Tolfvan)
FokkerCXP.16x12m30Inc 16 12kg Incendiary m30 (Tolfvan)
FokkerCXP.4x70m38+4x50m38 4 70kg m38 + 4 50kg m38 (Tolfvan)
FokkerCXP.4xMin50M37+4xSprang50M37+2x12M37Min 4 50kg M37+ 4 50kg M37 Frag + 2 12kg M37 (Svenska)
FokkerCXP.none None
This mod is for 4.10 and has been tested on SAS modact and DBW 1.7
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This software may be freely used, copied and distributed with the following restrictions:
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Original 3dModel, Java Files, FM: Dreamk
Skins and template: Agracier and Archie
FM Update: Leibig
And thanks of course to Chris who sent me copies of the original blueprints of the Dutch bombs, and the relevant info on their colours and markings, together with colour photos of preserved bombs.
PS. the Dutch bombs in 1940 were officially painted Olive green for the Dutch airforce and Black with a white nose for the Marine - but it seems that quite a number of bombs remained in the previous yellow scheme, and at the same time, quite a number of bombs were repainted in Black overall. Photographic material from the period shows that the white/black combination of the Marine could be interpretated with wide variations in the Dutch Indies, with often the whole body being white only the tail and tail fins being painted black.
Theses files should not cause any problems with your computer, but we accept no responsibility if you think it does.
Thanks to Oleg Maddox and Qtim for creating Il2 and opening the gates to Mod creation, to Kumpel for his matrix tool, and thanks to SAS for enabling modders to
share their knowledge on Il2 modding.
Create!
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TEMPLATE - https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,28230.0.html
skiny - https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,28231.0.html
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/archie_cz/FIN05.jpg)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/archie_cz/FIN04.jpg)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/archie_cz/FIN03.jpg)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/archie_cz/FIN02.jpg)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/archie_cz/FIN01.jpg)
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Just plane beautiful!
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I'm really thankfull to you for making these Talvisota planes because it was quite important era of Finnish war aviation
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Just one word... PERFECT! ;)
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Many thanks Dreamk & co! This is an essential addition! 8)
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thank you very much
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WOW!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Gorgeous, thank you very much Dreamk for this superb and much needed addition. 8)
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm42/Mission_bug/Fokker-1.jpg)
Works a treat except the Dutch bombs don't show, the armament only appears on the Pegasus engined version.
Could you advise on this please, all entries added as per the instructions. ;)
Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Its been awhile since I used DCG, I'm gonna have to cracked it open and see about adding all these recent great planes for a campaign or two!
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Works a treat except the Dutch bombs don't show, the armament only appears on the Pegasus engined version.
For the CX Hispano version to work, you may need Dutch, French, Spanish and Russian arms pack installed?
Cheers,
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Hello ben, installed the weapons packs as instructed by Dreamk. ;)
It maybe that one of them needs to be higher in the hierachy of the #DBW folder, need to experiment.
All the best, Pete. ;D
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Hello ben, installed the weapons packs as instructed by Dreamk. ;)
It maybe that one of them needs to be higher in the hierachy of the #DBW folder, need to experiment.
All the best, Pete. ;D
Another thought is to not use any weapons entries for the Fokker C.X in the weapons_ru.properties file at all, to eliminate the possibility of a weapons entries syntax issue...
Cheers,
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The missing ordnance options are likely due to missing FAB100SV. To get it you'll need the russian bombs pack: https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,28195.0.html although it is not mentioned in first post.
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Thank you very much Birdman and Ben_Wh, I wasn't aware that particular aircraft had been released so was unaware there was a Russian ordnance pack. Yet another lovely aircraft to install eh. 8)
All working now. 8)
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm42/Mission_bug/CXbombs.jpg)
I've edited the first page and added the link to the Russian bombs. ;)
Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Hi'
Is there any chance that it will come to 4.09m ?? (please Epervier!)
Benno
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Recent changes and future have an impact on my packs Parasol ...
So we have to learn patience ... one, two or three months!
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We have all the time of the world mate!
Anyway IIRC the time between the extinction of the dinosaurs and the last mod released yesterday was about....TWO WEEKS....
:)
Kidding apart take all the time you need even because is better wait for further Dreamk update before....
All the best!
walter
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and were is cockpit? >:(:'(
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and were is cockpit? >:(:'(
Another Haken disease victim I see - well, the treatment for the swastika allergy of Fokkers cockpits is always the same:
in the directory 3DO/Cockpit/FokkerG1/ make a copy of the material file LABELS3.mat on and rename this copy LABELS3_HAKEN.mat. Leave both files in the folder
;)
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Great update DreamK, and with the Russian arms pack the Dutch bombs show up. The 3d model looks better IMHO, thanks a lot. There's only one small problem; still got holes in the wings as in the first version, can you tell me which numbers I have to adapt to get rid of this?
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and were is cockpit? >:(:'(
Another Haken disease victim I see - well, the treatment for the swastika allergy of Fokkers cockpits is always the same:
in the directory 3DO/Cockpit/FokkerG1/ make a copy of the material file LABELS3.mat on and rename this copy LABELS3_HAKEN.mat. Leave both files in the folder
;)
OK! Cockpit is appear :)
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Epervier
Merci ;)
Benno :P
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Experimenting with recon and bombing with the Fokker C.X (P), and wondering whether others experienced these:
1) Visual artifacts around the nose from the cockpit (no artifact when zoomed in through the telescope view)
2) Engine overheating - engine would overheat, seize up and becomes inoperable suddenly - even when just starting a quick mission, or when going into a shallow dive. Easing on the throttle helps sometimes but overheating would still occur frequently.
Nice craft to fly though to take in the scenery in winter maps...
Cheers,
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Yeah I get the overheating thing with this and some of the other recent planes. I might be crazy but it seemed like the earlier release was less susceptible to this. Is it supposed to be that way? Makes it a little hard to attack sometimes.
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Hi, Joberg. The engine overheat function in the difficulty settings seems to either be hyper sensitive, or non-existant. I just leave it out.
cheers
David Prosser
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Extremely mint work on this aircraft... Thank's
And excellent job with the skins.
Again thank's to all. 8)
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Can you make it for 4.11.1 version??
thanks
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Where can I find the Dutch skin that can be seen in post 1???
Working on a 1940 campaign where I want to use this nice aircraft. :)
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Where can I find the Dutch skin that can be seen in post 1???
Working on a 1940 campaign where I want to use this nice aircraft. :)
Look to several posts on this page:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,26582.0.html
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Hi DreamK, would you please be so kind as to look into the 'holes problem', this spoils my Fokker expierience.
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Henkypenky Hi! Can you explain what is the "holes problem" - It has not been mentionned earlier in this thread
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Where can I find the Dutch skin that can be seen in post 1???
Working on a 1940 campaign where I want to use this nice aircraft. :)
Look to several posts on this page:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,26582.0.html
Aaah, where would we be without Archie?! Thanks. Just the thing I needed! :)
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Hi DreamK, think I've mentioned it in the pre-update thread; it was about the holes in the wings like this:
(http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/henkntb/0606201221-30-40.jpg)
Update: the request was in the Koolhoven thread: (Itook the C-X picture out)
Hi DreamK, thanks for this very nice suprise, I do not want to be ungrateful, only to report that in this plane, and in the Fokker C-X also, I have quite large holes in the wings.
(http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/henkntb/0606201221-32-00.jpg)
Would you please be so kind to look into this - after a big well deserved rest of course ;)
@birdman your propellorfix works great, thanks M8.
It's nothing - I'll just need to pull back just a little the cockpit - as I use to include a "root" mesh in the cockpits' hier him, it's easily done. This is an artefact that appears only under certain angles and is due to the interactions of the "aura" of cockpit meshes with the aura of plane meshes, which ,I begin to suspect, happens because cockpit meshes have their normals flipped by comparaison with plane meshes.
Biplanes usually have the center section of the upper wing in cockpit meshes also, and nowadays CF section too to fill 6DOF holes. The same external 3D model should work, but the cockpit placement should be exactly correct so that external and internal wings exactly overlap. That is the right way to avoid those wing holes, but moving cockpit back also fixes them although the cockpit position is then incorrect.
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Hi
Does this little beauty work in 4.09m ???
Benno
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This conversion exists from the 25 June 2012 with an addition the 28 January 2013 !
See "Parasols Planes".
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Many thanks to all concerned for the improvements....a whole lot better than the original !
Cheers
Alfie
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Mercy !
Benno :D
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I attached a pack with some fixes:
- Center of plane 3D model moved to better position.
- Pegasus prop 3D flipped to get correct direction for prop blades.
- Left and right outer wings swapped to correct sides to fix buggy damage states with middle sections missing or ailerons floating in air.
- Missing Separable lines added to hier.him to get more parts flying off in explosion.
- Some FM tuning for more realistic performance and engine RPM.
I concentrated on fixing the Pegasus version, so the Hispano version still has prop rotating in wrong direction. FM's may not be completely realistic because of incomplete reference information for Pegasus version and no fine-tuning for Hispano version.
I hope you like these fixes.
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Many thanks for all your fixes work Pauli!
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Thank you!
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Yes, thanks! :)
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Well done for these fixes......works a treat
Cheers
Alfie
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and were is cockpit? >:(:'(
Another Haken disease victim I see - well, the treatment for the swastika allergy of Fokkers cockpits is always the same:
in the directory 3DO/Cockpit/FokkerG1/ make a copy of the material file LABELS3.mat on and rename this copy LABELS3_HAKEN.mat. Leave both files in the folder
;)
I have this problem, did rename the mat file, and no go... still no cockpit (but works as AI).
What happens ?
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What a real joy is to fly this plane!! birdman, are you sure it was that good? a sturdy, fully aerobatic and trouble-free plane, very agile for its size, I enjoyed it.
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Hi, i'm sorry to get back to you with another issue with this plane; even after the update I still have these large holes in the top wing as reported earlier:
(http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/henkntb/holes_zpsa920947b.jpg)
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Works in 4.12.
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Experimenting with recon and bombing with the Fokker C.X (P), and wondering whether others experienced these:
1) Visual artifacts around the nose from the cockpit (no artifact when zoomed in through the telescope view)
2) Engine overheating - engine would overheat, seize up and becomes inoperable suddenly - even when just starting a quick mission, or when going into a shallow dive. Easing on the throttle helps sometimes but overheating would still occur frequently.
Nice craft to fly though to take in the scenery in winter maps...
Cheers,
Regarding overheating I have the same problem. But my solution is to reduce mixture 80% -60% and minimaze proper pitch.it. works.no problem
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Don't use the 'engine overheat' thingy. It either works OK, or fries the motor real fast. Bf 109s are a case in point. They overheat, and seize almost immediately.
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Great work, I have missed this to our Finnish Virtual Pilots server. I have just released the first "Talvisota December 1939" mission and I have used R-5 as Fokker CX... I am working with the new Talvisota missions (January 1940, February 1940 and March 1940) and we really need this Fokker CX there! Is this compatible with the HSFX 7.03 History Mod?
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the engine go instantly overheated, and become inoperable with a few seconds of game, any solutions for it?
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Yes, turn off engine overheat in Difficulty. It is far too sensitive for some planes.
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hahaha, think its the only way hahaha thanks bro
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Regarding overheating I have the same problem. But my solution is to reduce mixture 80% -60% and minimaze proper pitch.it. works.no problem
till there is a new FM
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There is no cockpit. Flying only AI in 4.12. >:(
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you explanation is pretty minimalistic - in my Il2 experience, any AI only plane doesn't have a cockpit, so it sounds like nothing is wrong to me.... essentially, AI only MEANS no cockpit....
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There is no cockpit. Flying only AI in 4.12. >:(
Perfect ! You're in luck ! This mod has never been planned for the 412 and you have the possibility to have it in AI. It's perfect, do not complain!
So instead of putting this >:( ... you should put :-* !!
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So, what about Fokker CX under 4.12 ? Have we any hope ?
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Hi Eugene 1
At least I have a working Fokker CXP in my 412.2+530+530.
The other question is how does it work, FM could be better but
you can fly and use it just fine!
Cheers
Barber
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Works in 4.12.
Back in 2014 it worked in 4.12. And now in CUP and SAS.
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:D regards flying 4.13.2 sas modatc 6.2
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FIX.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zALDSMQw7wTobH9GXf4MXJOAiqmKp4Fc/view?usp=share_link
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FIX.
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showpost.php?p=204594&postcount=2186
Thank you very much!
Велике спасибі!