Special Aircraft Service
Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => UK_Singles => Topic started by: greybeard on October 07, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
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(http://s22.postimg.cc/yb9udgq4h/Spit_IXB_00.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Quoting Wikipedia (bold by me): "Production of the LF Mk IXs, frequently referred to as the Spitfire IXB, initially ran in parallel with the Merlin 63 powered Marks. This version first became operational in March 1943 with the Biggin Hill Wing, comprised at the time of 611 and 341(Free French) Squadrons. This type was by far the most produced of the Spitfire IX variants, with over 4000 built. The maximum power of the Merlin 66 was 1,720 hp (1,280 kW) at 5,750 ft (1,283 kW at 1,752 m) and the maximum speed of the Spitfire LF IX was 404 mph (650 km/h) at 21,000 feet (6,400 m). The Merlin 66 introduced a new Bendix-Stromberg injection carburettor, which replaced the earlier S.U float carburettor."
And Spitfire Mk. IX, XI and XVI - Variants Much Varied (http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/spitfire-mk-ix-xi-and-xvi-variants-much-varied.html): "More rarely seen are the suffixes A and B. These have caused some confusion, as these letters in earlier Spitfire marks define eight-gun and two drum-fed cannon and four machine gun armament configurations, respectively. It would seem that the designations IXA / IXB were used ad-hoc by the RAF units during the early part of the Mk. IX’s operational career, to distinguish the low-altitude-optimized Merlin 66-equipped LF IX (called Mk. IX B) from the initial Merlin 61/63/63a-equipped F IX (called Mk. IX A). These designations are sometimes seen in pilot’s log books, squadron Operational Record Books, etc."
(http://s18.postimg.cc/fstjzhtzd/Spit_IXB_01.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Distinctive feature of this mark is the early type, rounded tip, tail. It is modeled the initial production variant, featuring two big bulges on wings, intended to accomodate two 20 mm cannons each, but never introduced into production. Starting from January 1944, they were replaced by two "slim" ones suited for one cannon only.
(http://s22.postimg.cc/m5rcdlq1d/Spitfire_IX611a.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
A Spitfire Mk. IXA belonging to 611 Sq., late in 1942, representative of the initial big bulges on wings
Deserves mention the radio equipment, this too of the early type, including a VHF TR 1133 radio, no wire, tapered mast without triangular prong, and an IFF featuring two aerials between fuselage and tailplane leading edge tip.
(http://s15.postimg.cc/l9uuy7lgr/usaaf_spitfire_in_gibraltar_748923.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
An Mk. VB showing typical installation of IFF aerials
(http://s10.postimg.cc/5mzcxu7l5/401st_Sqdn.jpg)
Canadian 401st Squadron Spitfire Mk. IXB at Eindhoven during late 1944-early 1945
Click here to download (https://www.mediafire.com/download/mv5gq0b3sk640nx/air_Spitfire_MkIXB.rar)
Credits:
3d: Oleg Maddox/1c Company/ TD
Antenna/IFF wires from Spitfire Mk.I mod (UP.3)
Original idea, research, beta testing: Greybeard
classfile, hier.ini tweaks: Spitwulf
Tested only with UP2.01 and DBW, should work in any modded environment (feedback would be welcomed!).
Enjoy!
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Looking great, going to download as soon as my computer is back :( Only, I thought these early variants also had the smaller (Mk V) air inlet
Oct 10: dl'd and installed in CUP, works like a charm. Thanks a lot, for this nice plane
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Thanks GB ,
I love your historians perspective ( I always hated the choice to use the pointed empennage in the MkIX).
Kopfdorfer
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Nice :)
If someone would have asked me for a missing Spitfire variant, I would have said "nope, we have them all" but you learn something new every day ;)
Thanks Grey, much appreciated!
Best regards - Mike
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Cool, fills a gap.
Thanks for your contribution.
Best wishes
Tobias
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THX .
Now the HIGH altitude Variante with the longer and Pointed wingtips are the only Spitfire still Missing 😎
Cheers
Doc
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... Only, I thought these early variants also had the smaller (Mk V) air inlet
Not this. Smaller air inlet was coupled with Merlin 61/63/63a, equipping Spitfire F Mk. IX (the so-called Mk. IXA).
TO ALL
A big thank you for the warm reception of this umpteenth variant of the Spitfire. I'm not an expert on this airplane, but the fact is that this is the version which better, and for longer, represented it.
Please let me know if it works in other versions of the game: I would be happy to add their "tags".
Cheers,
GB
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Thank you very much !
SSP coming soon ! ;)
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Hi'
A mk 6/7 would be great, one can but dream !! :P :P :P
Benno
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Please let me know if it works in other versions of the game: I would be happy to add their "tags".
Works in 4.12
Cheers - Redfox
P.S. And a Thank You for the a/c
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SSP coming soon ! ;)
Merci Epervier! :)
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Works in 4.12
Thank you! Tag added! ;)
BTW: I also updated screenshots on first post; previous ones erroneusly sported wrong cockades, due to a mod I had loaded when I took pictures. Don't worry! You got in the download the late type, as currently shown above.
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It works perfectly 8) in C.U.P, Thank you, greybeard,
Best regards,
Piotrek
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Looks like you can add the version 4.11 to her.
At least, she appears to work fine in mine.
Many thanks, greybeard! ;D
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OK under 4.09 ! :)
Thank you very much ! ;)
All the best.
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Looks like you can add the version 4.11 to her.
Done! :)
Thanks for the feedback. Regards,
GB
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Does this mod have its own flight model?
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Does this mod have its own flight model?
No, it doesn't. It is shared with Spitfire-LF-IXc-M66-18.fmd.
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Is this aircraft in CUP?
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Is this aircraft in CUP?
I spent a while on your message, wondering if reply or simply report to moderators.
I guess you do not realize that you entered in this thread like one enters in a coffee shop and ask for a cup of coffee.
This is not a paid service.
One should introduce his question with some kind of polite comment about authors' work, just to make them aware that you appreciated their effort, even if it does not meet your expectations. They call them "good manners".
The same happened earlier for mandrill.
I don't think I will answer in the future to such kind of questions badly posed.
I do not know if this plane is included in CUP; if you would have spent some time reading previous posts, though, you could have read #12, stating that it is compatible.
Salutations,
GB
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I don't think I will answer in the future to such kind of questions badly posed.
:D
Personnellement j'ai déjà décidé ! ;)
Is this aircraft in CUP?
To request to include a Mod in the CUP pack there is a specific topic!
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Graybeard and to anyone else that cares to read this....
My initial response was to say "...As it doesn't have it's own FM, I am no longer interested in this aircraft" and moved on.
However, as I have been a member of this community from DAY 1, back when the Bf 109G-6 was the best aircraft in the game for about 2 weeks after release (...that's where the term "2 Weeks" started), some of you have been fortunate enough to have missed the verbal assaults and personal attacks back when SimHQ was the spot. That said, I will give you a pass.
Online etiquette - Seriously!!! This is mighty elitist of you - Fail! Sure, I could have opened with a "Hi!" or "Hello", or some other form of salutation. However, I just wanted and answer and expected either no response - or a "Yes" or "No". Apparently, I hurt your (GRAYBEARD's) feelings and received passive-aggressive lecture instead. Well - I apologize.
Lastly, You cannot equate an online forum to a coffer shop. I know for a fact that is the case because I know of people that have been killed in a coffee shop and last I checked, that's can't happen over the internet....unless you include this:
(http://s32.postimg.cc/431f09i01/4594236.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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That is another fine aircraft for this game.
THANK YOU ! 8) I will fly it with pleasure !
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To request to include a Mod in the CUP pack there is a specific topic!
I thought same thing!
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I apologize.
Apology accepted.
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I will fly it with pleasure !
Thank you max, have fun!
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Can I have a little poke? ;) Is this supposed to have the B wing or C wing?
There is indeed too many things called IXb/IXB - so - what exactly is this plane, I am confused. ::(
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Supermarine_Spitfire_Mk.IXb,_Private_JP7031507.jpg)
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Can I have a little poke? ;) Is this supposed to have the B wing or C wing?
There is indeed too many things called IXb/IXB - so - what exactly is this plane, I am confused. ::(
It's a IXc i.e. a IX with the type C wing. The lack of a stub on the wing leading edge for the second (and redundant) cannon mounting may either be due to an inaccurate restoration (it does happen) or as a representation of some wartime C winged Spitfires (both Vc and IXc) that had the stub removed, although I've only seen that on photos of US operated Spits so far.
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nope, there were b winged IX's
but apparently, IXb also stood for IXc spits engined with 66 merlin. In which case it was written in capitals - as IXB, which is fkin confusing :))
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Sorry but I beg to differ, there were no b winged Mk IXs. If you happen to have a photo(s) of a Mk IX clearly showing it with type b wings that proves me wrong I'd be very interested to see it.
In regards to your photo, I still believe it's a IXc; the length and shape of the cannon fairing, the shortness of the cannon barrel (only the muzzle showing) and the lack of the under-wing bulge for the cannon ammo drum (on the b wing only) as well as the lack of the gun-bay heating vent (a and b wing only) all indicate it being a type c wing.
However I do concur that IXB was an informal but very wide spread term used to designate the Merlin 66 powered Mk IX (a.k.a LF.IX) and that it causes a lot of confusion.
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The difference lies in the colloqial pilot speak and the official designation from the factory. Veterans like Al Deere refer to the IXB when they are talking about the LF MK IX with the c type wing and this was common I believe and came about because it was how they had always referred to the previous iterations of Spitfire. MK I and MK II came in either IA or IB/IIA or IIB versions as did the MK V until the later VC. I think that MK IX pilots simply carried on with the habit of calling a Spit with cannon as a B though the manufacturer was being much more specific as the variants proliferated with Merlin engine version.
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I am wondering why this mod does not contain a "summer" folder.
Which other aircraft version default skin is it using?
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well, I am quite sure I've read about both b and c wing being used, b being on very first IX's...
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I am wondering why this mod does not contain a "summer" folder.
Which other aircraft version default skin is it using?
I do not understand ! :-|
This mod is a Spitfire 9B but it uses the folder Plane of the Spitfire 9C.
So this mod uses the skins folder (summer/desert/winter) of the 9C plane stock! ;)
But the folder Paintschemes/skins are : SpitfireMkIXb
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well - paintschemes folder is defined in the air.ini anyways ;)
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I am wondering why this mod does not contain a "summer" folder.
Which other aircraft version default skin is it using?
This mod is a Spitfire 9B but it uses the folder Plane of the Spitfire 9C.
So this mod uses the skins folder (summer/desert/winter) of the 9C plane stock! ;)
But the folder Paintschemes/skins are : SpitfireMkIXb
OK, That explains it ;)
Merci Epervier !
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Hi Guys,
I've just been fiddling to install this aircraft in a modpack for an upcoming SEOW campaign
for Operation Cobra.
Installed no problems and I love Greybeard's perspective in representing the
most produced Spit variant correctly.
In this spirit , I must point out that the Hispano 20mm wing blister is rightly highlighted in the exterior
aircraft view , however the view from the cockpit has the later , slick wing with no cannon bulges.
Would one of you code jockeys consider correcting this , by adding the correct wing view from the
pilots in cockpit view ?
Thanks for your consideration.
Kopfdorfer