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Battlefield - Airborne - Tactical (BAT) => BAT Missions and Campaigns => WAW (World at War) => Topic started by: SAS~Monty27 on March 22, 2017, 06:17:47 PM
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+++ Monty's Battle of Britain campaigns for BAT 4.x +++
- BAT-WAW_BattleOfBritain_by_Monty_v4.zip (https://www.mediafire.com/file/tysrcgjm1pmeyp6/BAT-WAW_BattleOfBritain_by_Monty_v4.zip/file) (~925MB, Includes pdf)
(updated by Whistler)
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How long after you asked her did you get married?
Looking forward to the campaigns.
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Met and married within six weeks. Luckily she was also young and stupid as well as beautiful! We emigrated to Australia ten years ago which is also a big life changing deal. We love our new life too but our old life is a long way away.
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Amazing, other side of the world and I met mine in late Oct. 1967 and married her on Dec 2, 1967. Beat you guys by a week
Same deal with mine, young, stupid and beautiful, she has put up with me for nearly 50 years.
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Amazing, other side of the world and I met mine in late Oct. 1967 and married her on Dec 2, 1967. Beat you guys by a week
Same deal with mine, young, stupid and beautiful, she has put up with me for nearly 50 years.
And still indulges you as much as my Dawn I bet! I would die for her in a second but really feel so lucky every day. ;D
The Bay of Biscay Map, by agracier and tbauchot really has that piece of coastline, from Weymouth to Portsmouth, just perfect. We have both looked at in the sim and said "hey, we were there!" Further inland many abandoned airfields have been gradually absorbed back into the surrounding farmland. Driving some of the more remote tracks you might see a shocking red and white checked roof on an old barn and suddenly realise that its an old control centre or repair shed!
Only eleven years ago, near a small town we lived in called Wincanton, an entire B17 was discovered in a field. It had crashed near some woods well short of approach, was never found, and gradually buried itself over 60 years. We attended the memorial service organised by the town Mayoress and met some of the relatives of the crew.
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Really looking forward to this, Monty, thank you for ALL your work! :)
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I was just looking for such a campaign !
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Working on them this weekend. Dunkirk, prior to the main battle:
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Super Monty!!! I can not wait!!!!!
My biggest cong for all your efforts!!
Ciao!
Marco
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Lovely to learn a bit of personal history from you guys. Really appreciate all the work you put in. I loved the " hurricane season" campaign for Il2 which In completed pretty mods several years ago. (I cannot remember who created it) Looking forward to Battle of Britain campaign with an actual channel map.
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In the spirit of "Coming soon you buggers!" I can only say "You bloody legend!"
Simon, your TFM epic (the 65 missions) left a lasting impression on me. What a masterpiece!
This was a time when I was flying ...hmm... these days I Gimp, GMax and actors.static a lot plus test and debug for others.
I really need to clone myself so that I can fly your updated campaigns.
All the best to you and your gang.
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I am in awe of all the work you have put into my favourite game Monty and I thank you. I don't know how much of a stickler you are for accuracy or whether you consider such matters for geeks only and if that is the case that's OK with me, but can I just be a pain in the ass and point out that the Fighter Command fuselage band was only applied after the Battle of Britain. The screenshot may well be out of date, if so forgive me. Once again many thanks.
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Only thank you, this enormous work, Monty27 and Team :) :) :)
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Looking forward to the BoB release . Have several for CFS3 and BoB II WOV . My favorite era in WWII. Thank you. Regards,Scott
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Hi Monty !
I cannot wait to play the Battle of Britain Campaign ! ;D
You are geniuses.
Cheers
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There are five BoB era campaigns in the set, 3 RAF and 2 Luftwaffe, and they are coming along nicely. It won't be long before we can all fly these in the full glory of the B.A.T.!
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Hey!!! Don't bother the master, PLEASE! Monty has to finish up the DOF and TGA campaigns first! They do occur a lot sooner! I love WW2 the most too, but its good to delve into his earlier era campaigns and try on a new set of clothes.
I'm almost done with DOF now and boy, I fly those clunkers a lot better now.
Thinking about new aircraft, I took a peek at SCW, even though I'm not there yet, and couldn't figure out what an air class "UT WAGEN" was. Couldn't find that aircraft. And I searched! Big surprise when I found out that you start the mission piloting a...uh, wagen! It had no wings, just four wheels! I put it in WEP and still couldn't get it off the ground. Maybe I should report it as a BAT problem! :P
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Hey!!! Don't bother the master, PLEASE! Monty has to finish up the DOF and TGA campaigns first! They do occur a lot sooner! I love WW2 the most too, but its good to delve into his earlier era campaigns and try on a new set of clothes.
I'm almost done with DOF now and boy, I fly those clunkers a lot better now.
Thinking about new aircraft, I took a peek at SCW, even though I'm not there yet, and couldn't figure out what an air class "UT WAGEN" was. Couldn't find that aircraft. And I searched! Big surprise when I found out that you start the mission piloting a...uh, wagen! It had no wings, just four wheels! I put it in WEP and still couldn't get it off the ground. Maybe I should report it as a BAT problem! :P
Yes you sarky bugger! :P I thought it would be good to start the Spanish Revolution like all revolutions, waking up to total chaos, trying to decide which side you are on and running for your life when you realise you are on the wrong side. You find yourself in a car chase, racing past roadblocks to the airfield where you steal an aircraft in which to make your escape.
The first set of SCW campaigns deal with 1936, the uprising in Africa, the varied results across Mainland Spain, the troop airlift from Morocco and the involvement of Germany, Italy, the 'Internationalists' and the Soviet Union. By the end of that year Madrid is still in Republican hands at the beginning of a four year siege. In the north the Basques are struggling against the Nationalist Rebels. The Legion Condor and the Aviazione Legionaria join the Nationalists to seal the doom of the northern cause...
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...I am getting a hard on so Monty must be almost done!
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So, So looking forward to this Monty , good show old bean !.... and glad you is in god's (if'n you are a believer in such stories) own country m8. & sixstrings > CFS 3 is now good enough to fly ? I am way behind in CFS3 stuff it seems. >
Thanks again Monty.
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Sharkzz aka Lozza
take a cold shower daily x-man ;D
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We have made a LOT of progress - TEN Battle of Britain Campaigns (5-RAF and 5 Luftwaffe) and a massive new skinpack that covers everything. Fixed up the Defiant too.
Working with a lot of resources already accumulated still left many gaps if we wanted to skin EVERYTHING. My good friend RDDR has stepped in and together we have created well over a hundred new missions and many more hundreds of skins to represent every aircraft involved in them.
In-Game markings are not truly representative of a period in which aircraft markings were not fully standardised and different squadrons and staffels interpreted the rules their own way. After mapping the unit codes and location of every RAF Fighter Command and Luftflotte unit we skinned a large representation. Luftwaffe in-game markings seemed a lot better, but still not good enough for RDDR. Some markings were factory applied, but many individual Staffel codes and markings were painted onto individual aircraft by hand. They are all different! RDDR set out to represent several hundred Luftwaffe aircraft based on actual aircraft!
The skinpack alone is an astonishing achievement. We are still working, tweaking the final bits. I don't mind telling you all this because RDDR and me have a good track record of delivery. We don't ever shoot the shit. If we say it, we do it, and you guys will get it soon.
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Not much can be said Simon.
Apart from amazing and thank you.
Which always seems inadequate, with the amount of work and dedication that must be involved in creating all these goodies. 8)
Many thanks,
Mike.
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This is a period about which RDDR and I have been interested for many years. We met many years ago over painting the Spitfire and 109 and have remained friends ever since. My working knowledge is based first on having grown up in Northern Germany and then Southern England. About ten years each providing an interest, with close relatives on both sides, and some perspective, I hope. Having said that my family would largely dispute whether any actual 'growing up' occurred!
A deep interest in history and art has become manifest, in part, in these works, writing the campaigns and constructing the missions. For his part RDDR is an absolute expert on Luftwaffe markings in particular and its such a joy to spend time with someone who loves a subject as much as you do. We created B.A.T. in order to do these campaigns, amongst others, and I believe we have pushed the possibilities of this sim to their limit. You can soon be the judges of that... 8)
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I am actually going to fly this. Full stop.
I am a big fan of the Hurricane and the TFM - Battle of Britain campaign has left a lasting impression on me (it is the benchmark for me).
Not sure how (its seems impossible...) but Monty you will manage to get me off red stars and Leningrad Oblast !
Gidzillions of thank you!
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Apologies Simon, but i do not know who RDDR is.
You both obviously have a great interest in your subject, due to the amount of detail included in your campaigns.
I am more of a ground & sea war enthusiast for both WW1 and WW2.
But obviously this does overlap into both air wars as well.
A Battle Of Britain campaign would be high on my list if i was asked for a preference. 8)
I flew the Hurricane more than anything in CLOD, but MP isn't really for me.
Much appreciated.
Mike.
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I am actually going to fly this. Full stop.
I am a big fan of the Hurricane and the TFM - Battle of Britain campaign has left a lasting impression on me (it is the benchmark for me).
Not sure how (its seems impossible...) but Monty you will manage to get me off red stars and Leningrad Oblast !
Gidzillions of thank you!
I promise you Zoran, the new Hurricane missions will blow you away. ;D
We have many more complete squadrons painted and have improved on taxiing, dispersal starts, mass scrambles and flight formations. There are so many features in the improved FMB we have only previously scratched the surface. Add to this the Coastal Spotters, Observers and Ground Controllers and we have something really special.
The original TFM Campaign is one of the ten campaigns. It has been rebuilt, not only for the new skins and scenery, but also including a greater variety of startup situations and a huge object and vehicle upgrade too.
Of course there is also plenty of action with players also flying the Spitfire, several Coastal Command types and even the newly refurbished and painted Defiant + several Luftwaffe campaigns too + a new 'Campaign Companion', the biggest yet...
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Thanks Monty, for what accounts, will be a movie. :)
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Very much looking forward to this :) :)
Thanks for all your hard work :)
heaven17 :)
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Hi There Dogbert and friends.
Hoping everyone will really get a Bang out of BOB when it is released.
There is no doubt in my mind that everything is becoming more and more immersive with
these missions as we take to the air and make contact with the enemy. Many of us for
the first time. Simon and I have been shaking everything down and I will say that most all of
these air clashes are not for the feint of heart.
Simon has been extremely careful building these missions from a historical point of view
day by day,week after week from official RAF and Luftwaffe official reports so the immersion
is really quite wonderful.
Enough from me other to say that my name is Christopher aka RDDR.
I dont often post, but that is not to say that I dont read posts.I read everything that comes into the BAT area
almost every day.
I hope everyone will enjoy The BOB and read the upcoming new manual as it is full of wonderful info.
All The very Best.
RDDR
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I like the codes of the hurricane in the last image ;)
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The skinning and markings for this campaign are truly outstanding The 32 squadron Hurris and the 610 squadron Spits are exquisite for instance. So looking forward to this work of truly historic and epic homage to its subject.
Having said that, could I raise a couple of points regarding the roundels on the Sunderland and Wellington? The narrow white and yellow rings are from 1942 on and out of period.....
Peter Lynn:)
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Hi Christopher (RDDR), good to hear from you buddy.
Both yourself and Simon, should be very proud of what you are achieving.
All the best,
Mike.
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Looks superb, can't wait.
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I like the codes of the hurricane in the last image ;)
Isn't that Chris's personal ride? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The skinning and markings for this campaign are truly outstanding The 32 squadron Hurris and the 610 squadron Spits are exquisite for instance. So looking forward to this work of truly historic and epic homage to its subject.
Having said that, could I raise a couple of points regarding the roundels on the Sunderland and Wellington? The narrow white and yellow rings are from 1942 on and out of period.....
Peter Lynn:)
Good catch Peter, much better with the older style roundels...
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Speaking of rondals and coding,I do believe that inebriation played a part when this ZG76 aircraft was coded.
It was retired after making a wheels up and sliding into a copse of trees several weeks later.
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Looking great! Only; beware with Night and White undersides for Spitfire and Hurricane. Camouflage and Markings by Goulding andJones gives: 'Night and White under surface scheme replaced from 6th June on service aircraft and 11th June on production Spitfire by Sky on all undersurfaces. No underwing roundels used generally. Roundels introduced officially from 11th August 1940, on Service Spitfires and 18th August on production aircraft.' And Night and White unders before 27th November 1940 never used underwing roundels. Only fighters operating over France had underwing roundels in this periode. The Night and White with the differnt aillerons was used 'at the end of 1938 or early 1939' according to these gentleman.
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Hi there Henkypenky,
I have done a good number of Spits, but not any Black and Whites to date.
Just checking, I have done 54 SQN,74 SQN, 56SQN and 501 plus several other units.
Lots of photos as well as profiles including a family members pics. He did not fly during
the BOB, but was operational a year and a half later on Spits.
Being a modeler as a young kid I remember questioning him about Spit and Hurri camo and markings. He would tell me I was doing fine and not to worry. He laughed and said,the most important thing was getting those damaged aircraft that they deemed serviceable back in the air
and that if someone came out on the flightline and questioned the placement of codes on a aircraft
to the ground crews that he would be eaten for breakfast. They were having none of that during those terrible months.
I appreciate you taking the time to post this, and will find out what Spit units were still using the Black and whites with no under wing roundels .
I will make sure we have some.There is still time.
All The Best
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I have used some isolated examples. Because what also has to be understood about that time is the fact that initially production did not keep up with demand. - As a result many older aircraft were pressed into service and running repairs produced further anomalys. eMeL made some brilliant examples of wierd individual Spits, along with many others, some with tiny roundels or odd unfamiliar markings. These are all part of the mix, especially for the desperate days between mid-June and August 1940, by which time a lot of the markings and schemes became more standardised and newly manufactured aircraft began to reach the flightlines in greater numbers.
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Hi RDDR an Monty, yes, getting them back in the air was the most important thing back than. And there's a lot of weird info around on camouflage and markings. But in general these airplanes where industrial products, fabricated to standard specifications, so they all looked more or less the same. That was the point I was trying to explain. I do know that you take things seriously, and I just wanted to point this out, would be shit if all the skins would go wrong and I didn't say :(
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Hello!
I'm huge fan of yours campaigns Monty and can't wait to see when Battle of Britain will be out.
I'd like to ask if there is a campaign for polish squadron 303 in work?
All the best
Vic
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Check this one out:
Battle of Britain: Kociuszko (303) Squadron for CUP
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads3&file=details&id=372
By Vonofterdingen
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Looking forward to this release. The most interesting era of WWII to me. Waiting with baited breath ! Thanks for all the work involved. Regards,Scott
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Hey Monty - Are you going to populate Luftwaffe airfield as much as the RAF airfields? I hope those of us that fly for the "other side" don't have to suffer with empty bear airbases to save FPS. :)
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Haha!! ;)
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Looks great but where is the download link?
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how about reading the thread from post 1 onwards? .....
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how about reading the thread from post 1 onwards? .....
Oh yeah it's a work in progress, sorry.
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Hello everyone, i hope im not breaking any rules posting in here. its my first time posting in a forum :o
First of all i wanted to say thank you to all of the content creators in here, this is awesome! I was also wondering if anyone knows when this campaign will be out (hopefully it will still this month :P). I dont mean to rush it or anything, im just really excited for this ;D ;D
An especial thank you to Monty and his awesome campaigns!!
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10 new BoB campaigns, a massive new skinpack and total BAT Update with installer. It will be out within the week.
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Thanks for the news. It's good to see you back! ;D
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Thank you! This is the best news I've heard all day!!
lyteyr
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Music to my seventy-five year old ears. Well, as much as can be heard with seventy-five year old ears anyway, which sometimes ain't much. :) Thanks for all your work now, and past.
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I second all the thanks for what has to be a tremendous amount of work for all involved. Thank-you for the dedication to our hobby! :)
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10 new BoB campaigns, a massive new skinpack and total BAT Update with installer. It will be out within the week.
YAAAAY aswesome!! Thank you so much for keeping this game alive! ;D
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Looking forward to it. Thanks
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Outstanding news!
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Hi Monty .
THANK YOU VERY MUCH for all your hard work and efforts .
Yours sincerely John :)
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Hmm...surprised no one posted here. Out now!!
This first:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,56368.0.html
...then this:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,56370.0.html
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Good job mate! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Good job mate! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
TY Monty and thank you and the team for all you do.
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This is the most amazing piece of work. I finally got around to downloading and installing this. Thank you so much Monty and team for all the hard work you put into this. It is truly stunning.
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Thank you so much !!!!!
Fast question for Monty. I prefer to set my conf file to forest=3.
Do a lot of the campaigns include manually added trees which I will miss out on if I set my conf file to forest=3 ?
Thanks - jg1234
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Bloody hell this is epic!
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Thank you so much !!!!!
Fast question for Monty. I prefer to set my conf file to forest=3.
Do a lot of the campaigns include manually added trees which I will miss out on if I set my conf file to forest=3 ?
Thanks - jg1234
No mate. I actually prefer Forest=2. Its only on some of the WWI middle eastern maps where Forest=3 plants too many trees and they start to appear on the runways! So I leave it at Forest=2.
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Excellent. Sounds Good. Thanks Monty !!
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Monty
Fantastic work and thank you. I am a long time player but I am really struggling in the Crisis campaign. First two missions all 8 of the 109s gang up on me every time I play, whilst all my AI colleagues bugger off after the dornier. The only way I can hope to survive is climb in the opposite direction before the 109s attack, let the fur ball develop and dip in for the odd squirt. Eventually nearly all my squadron are shot down and I head off home with 8 109s on my tail.
I know this is a limitation of the AI but when they get to veteran level they can pull off 600m high g deflection shots every time..
It's a challenge for sure but takes away from the immersion as I am retreating before I even get into the action..
Any tips from experts on handling the AI. I found 4.10 too easy!!!
P9
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Hello Peachy
After numerous attempts, I took off immediately and flew flat out to get ahead of the other Spits and shoot and skoot the Dornier in mid channel. Then bug out of there heading N.W. as fast as poss back to base, before the pesky 109s turn up - get into holding pattern West of Margate and allow other Spits to engage 109s. Then go back and mop up any stragglers.
Then back to base and a careful landing - don't ruin all the hard work by a crappy landing....!
Good luck, B9
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Good advice and glad its not just me!!!
Ill swallow my pride and do a runner to survive another day!
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Good advice and glad its not just me!!!
Ill swallow my pride and do a runner to survive another day!
Hah, you'll be swallowing your pride on the 2nd mission too mate...... good luck :P
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On mission 5 of "THEIR FINEST HOUR' my hurricane is spawning with its landing gear up and i cant do the mission
any ideas on why this is happening?
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Man these campaigns really drive home how incredibly shit the AI in this game is, we complain about the AI in il2 box, but good lord, watching a mk1 spit climb into me turn immediately behind me and then annihilate me is insanely frustrating, not to mention it seems like half the squadron tries to solely shoot you down. The UFO AI in this game really destroys any fun to be had.
Is every single spitfire pilot an ace?
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Actually, the Spitfire is my nightmare.
And yes, set a spitfire pilot to anything above average and they are ace of aces, combined with an aircraft that bleeds almost no energy, is exceptionally fast in level or climb, dives straight to the barrier of sound, pulls 10 g in a turn and then shoots you at a 90 degree deflection.
As a campaign maker, I always handle Spits by making them one experience level below what I intend, to ensure the AI at least misses a shot here and there or make some stupid mistake now and then, enabling a pilot to get a hold of them.
Going against a spit on Ace is no fun playing for me. I usually manually edit missions that are built like this to enjoy them better
However, flying on the same side as them.... another story :)
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The problem is I flew the same mission from the side of the brits in spitfire and got annihilated by the 109s!!! Maybe I am just a shit pilot. The AI in this game is extremely unforgiving. I was in a flight of 190A-3s the other day and came upon a group of LA-5s which proceeded to tear every single one of us apart as if we were fighting f-16's. Just had to laugh.
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These essential campaigns have been uptaded to BAT v4 standards. Check the first post.
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Perfect!
Many thanks whistler! :)
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Have any of you old hands heard from Simon lately? If you have any contact with him send my (and I guess many others) gratitude to him for the evolvment he started that has taken us this far! He really need appreciation for his work.
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I echo Flying H's comments. I hope Simon is well.
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just an observation but the first mission in "Target England" in the BAT update version crashes to desktop during the airbattle over kent. Every time i play. There seem to be no obvious errors except a whole range of missing files for pilot skins. The logfile shows no specific java or other errors. I am playing other campaigns and missions no problem at all. Cant work it out.
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Great battles!
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I as well. Cheers, Simon.
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Working on them this weekend. Dunkirk, prior to the main battle:
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Hello,
Any news this project?
Ops.Dinamo?
Regards,
Zsolt
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I don't have Bat installed, but I do have a Partial install of TFM412 containing all of the folders relevant to the Bob era to save space and improve framerates on my system.
I had to do a lot of manual editing of the various '.ini' files in the Std folder but it was worth it. I enjoyed your TFM412 Battle of Britain campaign missions. I recently downloaded your BAT Bob campaigns and started on 'Their Finest Hour', and after a bit of tweaking in the FMB, and adding some missing ships to my '#Sas' folder,was able to enjoy your brilliant missions. This is a rather long winded thank you for all of your hard work. ;D
Your missions and the graphic extender mod has really renewed my interest in this sim.
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Wish one day we could have the new Grass Mod implemented in this marvellous campaign.
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Hi, do all of these campaigns from the RAF's pov put you in a Spitfire, or are there Hurricane ones as well?
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Of course, Hurri and many others. Including flying boats too.