Special Aircraft Service
Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => UK_Singles => Topic started by: SAS~Anto on October 30, 2013, 10:49:16 AM
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Supermarine Spitfire F Mk 21, 22 and 24 v1.1
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/mumblyjoe55/SpitF24_zpsd8e9c872.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/mumblyjoe55/media/SpitF24_zpsd8e9c872.jpg.html)
SAS Spitfire Mk 21, 22 and 24 Pack v1.0 (https://www.mediafire.com/?bc0k6sukn5jx7sd) (11.21mb, Mediafire)
SAS Spitfire Mk 21, 22 and 24 Pack v1.0 (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads3&file=details&id=1806) (11.21mb, Mission4Today)
This is a little project that Red_Fox90 and I have been plugging away on in secret for a while. Hope you enjoy it ;)
The Mk 22 was identical to the Mk 21 in all respects except for the cut-back rear fuselage, with the tear-drop canopy, and a more powerful 24 volt electrical system in place of the 12 volt system of all earlier Spitfires. Most of the Mk 22s were built with enlarged tail surfaces, similar to those of the Supermarine Spiteful. A total of 287 Mk 22s were built: 260 at Castle Bromwich and 27 by Supermarine at South Marston.
The Mk 22 was used by only one regular RAF unit, 73 Squadron based on Malta. However 12 squadrons of the Royal Auxiliary Air Force used the variant and continued to do so until March 1951. The Mk 22 was also used at Flying refresher schools. In May 1955 the remaining F.22s were declared obsolete for all RAF purposes and many were sold back to Vickers-Armstrongs for refurbishment and were then sold to the Southern Rhodesian, Egyptian and Syrian Air Forces.
The final Spitfire variant, the Mk 24, was similar to the Mk 22 except that it had an increased fuel capacity over its predecessors, with two fuel tanks of 33 gal (150 l) each installed in the rear fuselage. There were also zero-point fittings for rocket projectiles under the wings. All had the larger "Spiteful" tail units: modifications were also made to the trim tab gearings in order to perfect the F Mk 24's handling characteristics. The F Mk 24 achieved a maximum speed of 454 mph (731 km/h), and could reach an altitude of 30,000 ft (9,100 m) in eight minutes, putting it on a par with the most advanced piston-engined fighters of the era.
Although designed primarily as a fighter-interceptor aircraft, the Spitfire proved its versatility in several different roles. In fighter configuration the F Mk 24's armament consisted of 4 × short-barrelled 20 mm Hispano cannon – operational experience had proved that the hitting power of these larger weapons was necessary to overcome the thicker armoured plating encountered on enemy aircraft as the war progressed. The aircraft also served successfully in the fighter-bomber role, being capable of carrying 1 × 500 lb (230 kg) and 2 × 250 lb (110 kg) bombs, with rocket-projectile launch rails fitted as standard. Late production aircraft were built with the lighter, short-barrelled, electrically fired Mark V Hispano cannon.
A total of 81 Mk 24s were completed, 27 of which were conversions from Mk 22s. The last Mk 24 to be built was delivered in February 1948. They were used by only one RAF squadron, 80 Squadron, until 1952. Some of the squadron's aircraft went to the Hong Kong Auxiliary Air Force where they were operated until 1955.
Readme including Credits:
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* Supermarine Spitfire F.21, F.22 and F.24 Pack v1.1 *
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Prerequisites (mandatory!):
You must have a modded IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 game patched to 4.10.1m or later
running in order to use this mod.
Furthermore you must have some kind of "DiffFM" mod installed in order to
use this mod.
If you don't know what this is all about, we recommend to use DBW 1.71 or
SAS Modact 5 since this meets all requirements by default.
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Installation:
For IL-2 4.11.1m / 4.12m / SAS Modact 4 / SAS Modact 5 / HSFX 6:
Put this folder in your MODS/#DBW/#SAS folder
and add the following lines to air.ini:
SpitfireF21 air.SPITFIREF21 1 NOINFO gb01 SUMMER
SpitfireF22 air.SPITFIREF22 1 NOINFO gb01 SUMMER
SpitfireF24 air.SPITFIREF24 1 NOINFO gb01 SUMMER
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Optional you can add the following properties file entries:
To plane_ru.properties:
SpitfireF21 Spitfire F.Mk 21, 1945
SpitfireF22 Spitfire F.Mk 22, 1945
SpitfireF24 Spitfire F.Mk 24, 1945
To weapons_ru.properties:
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# SpitfireF21
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SpitfireF21.default Default
SpitfireF21.1x30dt 30 gal. Droptank
SpitfireF21.1x45dt 45 gal. Droptank
SpitfireF21.1x90dt 90 gal. Droptank
SpitfireF21.1x90gal 90 gal. Droptank (Late)
SpitfireF21.1x250lb 250 lb. Bomb
SpitfireF21.1x500lb 500 lb. Bomb
SpitfireF21.2x250lb 2x 250 lb. Bombs
SpitfireF21.2x250lb+30dt 2x 250 lb. + 30 gal
SpitfireF21.2x250lb+45dt 2x 250 lb. + 45 gal
SpitfireF21.2x250lb+90dt 2x 250 lb. + 90 gal
SpitfireF21.2x250lb+90gal 2x 250 lb. + 90 gal (Late)
SpitfireF21.2x500lb 2x 500 lb. Bombs
SpitfireF21.2x500lb+30dt 2x 500 lb. + 30 gal
SpitfireF21.2x500lb+45dt 2x 500 lb. + 45 gal
SpitfireF21.2x500lb+90dt 2x 500 lb. + 90 gal
SpitfireF21.2x500lb+90gal 2x 500 lb. + 90 gal (Late)
SpitfireF21.1x500lb+2x250lb 1x500lb+2x250lb Bombs
SpitfireF21.1x250lb+2x500lb 1x250lb+2x500lb Bombs
SpitfireF21.3x250lb 3x250lb Bombs
SpitfireF21.3x500lb 3x500lb Bombs
SpitfireF21.none Empty
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# SpitfireF22
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SpitfireF22.default Default
SpitfireF22.1x30dt 30 gal. Droptank
SpitfireF22.1x45dt 45 gal. Droptank
SpitfireF22.1x90dt 90 gal. Droptank
SpitfireF22.1x90gal 90 gal. Droptank (Late)
SpitfireF22.1x250lb 250 lb. Bomb
SpitfireF22.1x500lb 500 lb. Bomb
SpitfireF22.2x250lb 2x 250 lb. Bombs
SpitfireF22.2x250lb+30dt 2x 250 lb. + 30 gal
SpitfireF22.2x250lb+45dt 2x 250 lb. + 45 gal
SpitfireF22.2x250lb+90dt 2x 250 lb. + 90 gal
SpitfireF22.2x250lb+90gal 2x 250 lb. + 90 gal (Late)
SpitfireF22.2x500lb 2x 500 lb. Bombs
SpitfireF22.2x500lb+30dt 2x 500 lb. + 30 gal
SpitfireF22.2x500lb+45dt 2x 500 lb. + 45 gal
SpitfireF22.2x500lb+90dt 2x 500 lb. + 90 gal
SpitfireF22.2x500lb+90gal 2x 500 lb. + 90 gal (Late)
SpitfireF22.1x500lb+2x250lb 1x500lb+2x250lb Bombs
SpitfireF22.1x250lb+2x500lb 1x250lb+2x500lb Bombs
SpitfireF22.3x250lb 3x250lb Bombs
SpitfireF22.3x500lb 3x500lb Bombs
SpitfireF22.none Empty
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# SpitfireF24
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SpitfireF24.default Default
SpitfireF24.1x30dt 30 gal. Droptank
SpitfireF24.1x45dt 45 gal. Droptank
SpitfireF24.1x90dt 90 gal. Droptank
SpitfireF22.1x90gal 90 gal. Droptank (Late)
SpitfireF24.1x250lb 250 lb. Bomb
SpitfireF24.1x500lb 500 lb. Bomb
SpitfireF24.2x250lb 2x 250 lb. Bombs
SpitfireF24.2x250lb+30dt 2x 250 lb. + 30 gal
SpitfireF24.2x250lb+45dt 2x 250 lb. + 45 gal
SpitfireF24.2x250lb+90dt 2x 250 lb. + 90 gal
SpitfireF22.2x250lb+90gal 2x 250 lb. + 90 gal (Late)
SpitfireF24.2x500lb 2x 500 lb. Bombs
SpitfireF24.2x500lb+30dt 2x 500 lb. + 30 gal
SpitfireF24.2x500lb+45dt 2x 500 lb. + 45 gal
SpitfireF24.2x500lb+90dt 2x 500 lb. + 90 gal
SpitfireF22.2x500lb+90gal 2x 500 lb. + 90 gal (Late)
SpitfireF24.1x500lb+2x250lb 1x500lb+2x250lb Bombs
SpitfireF24.1x250lb+2x500lb 1x250lb+2x500lb Bombs
SpitfireF24.3x250lb 3x250lb Bombs
SpitfireF24.3x500lb 3x500lb Bombs
SpitfireF24.8xRP3 8x RP-3 60lbs Rockets
SpitfireF24.8xRP3+30dt 8x RP-3 + 30 gal
SpitfireF24.8xRP3+45dt 8x RP-3 + 45 gal
SpitfireF24.8xRP3+90dt 8x RP-3 + 90 gal
SpitfireF24.8xRP3+90gal 8x RP-3 + 90 gal (Late)
SpitfireF24.1x250lb+8xRP3 1x250lb Bomb+8x RP-3
SpitfireF24.1x500lb+8xRP3 1x500lb Bomb+8x RP-3
SpitfireF24.none Empty
stationary.ini
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SpitfireF21 vehicles.planes.SpitfireF22Static$SPITFIREF21 1
SpitfireF22 vehicles.planes.SpitfireF22Static$SPITFIREF22 1
SpitfireF24 vehicles.planes.SpitfireF22Static$SPITFIREF24 1
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technics.ini
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[SpitfireF21]
Description SpitfireF21
Icon Plane
Class air.SPITFIREF21
PanzerBodyFront 0.008
[SpitfireF22]
Description SpitfireF22
Icon Plane
Class air.SPITFIREF22
PanzerBodyFront 0.008
[SpitfireF24]
Description SpitfireF24
Icon Plane
Class air.SPITFIREF24
PanzerBodyFront 0.008
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Credits:
Original 3D & code by 1C/Maddox.
Based on Griffon Spit 3D by Zorin,
New 3d by Red_Fox90.
New cockpit 3d by GJE52
Cockpit Textures by Avala.
Code and flight model by SAS~Anto
SAS Seafire Pack was used for reference for development of this pack
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Enjoy and redistribute FOR FREE!
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Nice one!
Congratulations to Luca and you and of course to all others involved!
Best regards - Mike
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Wow, a Pleasant surprise, Thanks To All Involved!
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Great but... I got a 60% CTD :-\
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nice planes I already tested it against a BF-109 :P
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THX a lot Mate !!
I am waiting for these Super-Spits since a long time ! 8)
Shoot my first Bf.109K-6 :P
Doc
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These things can chase and swat Me-262s. I managed to reach 460mph TAS in a test flight, so in my books they're perfect.
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Wonderful addition for the Spitfire family! Thanks to all involved in this project!
Bye!
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Great but... I got a 60% CTD :-\
DiffFM is required as described in the installation instructions.
If you're running neither DBW nor Modact 5 you'll have to install the DiffFM mod yourself.
Best regards - Mike
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I'm on DBW 1.71...is there a conflict with another Spitfire mod perhaps?
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Soon we will see the new wing tips on SeafireFRMk47 ?
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A great addition 8), I am a big fan of Spitfires :-* ... Thank you very much for creating these two variants.
They called them Spitfires. The clue is in the name. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv8rFPLN_Fg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv8rFPLN_Fg)
Best regards,
Piotrek
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Now the Spitfire family is almost complete!!!
Thanks for this great addition!
All the very best!
walter
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Thanks to all involved!
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Nice plane Anto thanks.I notice that it has a five bladed prop but only three bladed prop animation.Anyway to get a five bladed PropRot file for it?
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I personally think that SAS should set up a modded air racing server. Imagine kicking one of these around a good track, you can maintain control at 75mph IAS if you're careful with the throttle.
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Nice plane Anto thanks.I notice that it has a five bladed prop but only three bladed prop animation.Anyway to get a five bladed PropRot file for it?
Ahh true, nice catch! Just needs an updated texture.
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nice work, mate , waite for it so long , but it performance is worse than the SAS Late (Griffon) Seafire Pack's ? even other planes , it's right in fact?
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In what way is the performance worse? Remember the late Seafires had different engines and props which can account for some of that performance difference. To put it in perspective, the F.22/F.24 use the Griffon 61 engines which on average put out peak 2035hp at 7000m (through a 5 blade prop, lots of torque!!) In comparison the F.46/F/47 use the Griffon 83 which puts out peak 2340hp via contrarotating props (minimal torque). So at sea level the F.46/F.47 is by far more superior however at altitude the F.22/F.24 would outperform them. In terms of manouvrability, the Seafires don't have to fight that ridiculous amount of torque. Also, the F.24 carried additional fuel compared to some of these Seafires and the F.22, so at full combat load it is heavier (and hence performance worse). It's really apples and oranges: the Seafires were designed to carry out carrier defence and ground attack role, whilst the late Spitfires were high altitude interceptors/fighters (in which ground attack was a secondary role).
FYI, my basis for developing these flightmodels was the Seafire pack. I used the F46 and edited it to match the correct weight, fuel and engine parameters. The airframe are very similar and hence didn't make any further edits to them.
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nice work, mate , waite for it so long , but it performance is worse than the SAS Late (Griffon) Seafire Pack's ? even other planes , it's right in fact?
Try going to about 25,000 feet. The aircraft has very, very good high altitude performance, close to the ground it is still good, just not as good as it is at high altitude.
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I'm sorry for disturbing again, but I still can't get it working under DBW.
Can you make something out of these logfile entries?
sFMDir = spitf22
s1 = flightmodels/spitfire-f22.fmd
s = FlightModels/Spitfire-F22.fmd:SPITF22
m_lastFMFile = gui/game/buttons
opening new fm file spitf22
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.clsBigArrestorPlane(AirportCarrier.java:432)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.isPlaneContainsArrestor(AirportCarrier.java:394)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:2942)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:3371)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:158)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1853)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1548)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:211)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:420)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
sFMDir = spitf22
s1 = flightmodels/spitfire-f24.fmd
s = FlightModels/Spitfire-F24.fmd:SPITF22
m_lastFMFile = spitf22
null
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.clsBigArrestorPlane(AirportCarrier.java:432)
at com.maddox.il2.ai.AirportCarrier.isPlaneContainsArrestor(AirportCarrier.java:394)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.fillArrayPlanes(GUIQuick.java:2942)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick.<init>(GUIQuick.java:3371)
at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUI.create(GUI.java:158)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1853)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1548)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:211)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:420)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
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It appears to be conflicting with something to do with aircraft carriers. My DBW install hasn't worked for over a year, but it looks like it might be conflicting with the takeoff mod?
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I've seen that error before, just can't remember where...
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which the command to open the side door?
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thanks a lot for these great birds! Spitfires are my second favourite WW2 fighters right after Corsairs and those two make the lineup nearly complete now;
we are just missing a Mk.21 now;
oh and to make the main wheels look better, I copied the SpitXIVc wheels from the wheel mod over into the 3do folder of these birds :)
works like a charme - and does so for the late Griffon Seafires as well :)
I only noticed that I can work the radiator open but cannot close it again - a problem that many modded Spitfires do have in my install btw
I am on DBW/newTFM and have the engine/carrier take off mod up and running well btw....
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Cad, I use 0 for Side Hatch, but you can use what ever command you want:
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/a/img405/3386/qbeb.jpg)
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Can still make Spitfire MK 21? The main change the wing SpitfireMK14 from wing SpitfireMK22 ;-)
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Nice plane Anto thanks.I notice that it has a five bladed prop but only three bladed prop animation.Anyway to get a five bladed PropRot file for it?
Ahh true, nice catch! Just needs an updated texture.
How will we know when it's been updated?
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Cad, I use 0 for Side Hatch, but you can use what ever command you want:
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/a/img405/3386/qbeb.jpg)
Thank you very much, my friend! ;D
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Hi!!!
This night isn't my best night!!!
I have bought the model kits for those birds and I just noticed that in the mod Mk.22 and Mk.24 have the same lenght of the barrels while on kits the Mk.24 should have shorter barrels....not a great deal but I report it anyway because in my sources this is their main difference....
Apologize if seem that all is noticed by me!!!
All the very best!
walter
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Iam getting a 60% crash with Dark Blue World as well
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I have bought the model kits for those birds and I just noticed that in the mod Mk.22 and Mk.24 have the same lenght of the barrels while on kits the Mk.24 should have shorter barrels....not a great deal but I report it anyway because in my sources this is their main difference....
Hi Walter, as far as i know, only the late production F24s aircrafts had the short-barrelled Mark V Hispano cannons, but this (together with what type of droptanks were used) has been kind of confusing to research with certainity.
If you can provide sources, i'll be glad to shorten them!
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I installed these planes into HSFX 7 ( and DiffFM ), but the plane explodes immediately when I launch the mission in the QMB ...
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I have bought the model kits for those birds and I just noticed that in the mod Mk.22 and Mk.24 have the same lenght of the barrels while on kits the Mk.24 should have shorter barrels....not a great deal but I report it anyway because in my sources this is their main difference....
Hi Walter, as far as i know, only the late production F24s aircrafts had the short-barrelled Mark V Hispano cannons, but this (together with what type of droptanks were used) has been kind of confusing to research with certainity.
If you can provide sources, i'll be glad to shorten them!
Hi!
From my source: SAM Publication - Modelers datafile - Supermarine Spitfire part 2 - Griffon powered
(http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt222/waltersolito/F22-24_zps44460194.jpg)
(http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt222/waltersolito/F22-24_wing_zps674deee7.jpg)
(http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt222/waltersolito/F22-24_text_zpsc7f260d7.jpg)
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BTW the short barrels are reported also for the Seafire Mk.47....
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Gorgeous aircraft guys, thank you very much for these, I guess we have nearly every Spitfire type in the sim now. 8)
Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Any idea why these aircrafts explode when added to HSFX 7 ,please ?
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Thanks for the additional info Walter, we'll put that to good use :)
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I have bought the model kits for those birds and I just noticed that in the mod Mk.22 and Mk.24 have the same lenght of the barrels while on kits the Mk.24 should have shorter barrels....not a great deal but I report it anyway because in my sources this is their main difference....
Hi Walter, as far as i know, only the late production F24s aircrafts had the short-barrelled Mark V Hispano cannons, but this (together with what type of droptanks were used) has been kind of confusing to research with certainity.
If you can provide sources, i'll be glad to shorten them!
Hi!
From my source: SAM Publication - Modelers datafile - Supermarine Spitfire part 2 - Griffon powered
(http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt222/waltersolito/F22-24_text_zpsc7f260d7.jpg)
++1
As I already posted in a hot diskussion about this plane some month ago, the Infos in ALL my books about Spitfires is: The short barrels are typical for the F.24 and the Seafre 47.
;-)
Cheers
Doc
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Having a chat to Red_Fox about it, we should be able to figure something out. Also, Storebror has alright indicated to us that we'll adopt the new wings for the Seafire pack ;)
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Great news!!
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Hi SAS~Anto,
I D/L and installed this airplane about an hour ago, very NICE!!! But, boy is this plane twitchy, at least on my saitek joystick! It seems like if
you just move the stick a hair, the Spits wings are wobbling all over! This is a GOOD thing though, because she can turn on a dime
and give you 9 cents change!! I took her 'up', high up and whopped some Ta152 ass, but good!!!! With a height advantage I could just
BARELY beat her in a Bf109k, just barely!! ???
I did notice one error on the instrument panel, your ampere gauge has not been mirrored, because the gauge is backwards, and cannot be read.
Sorry, I have a degree in Electrical Design, so I notice things electrical..Heh.. Other then that, a truly GREAT effort, and a great plane.
Thank you! Well done!! ;D
Horrido!
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Thank you to all concern 8)
Been waiting for these two since the Mods 1st came out :)
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Guys I got the Spits to work in DBW 1.71. I also was getting the 60% CTD. All I did was install the latest SAS_Engine_MOD_v2.6_RC_Final and they loaded fine.
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*BUMP*
New version on front page. Includes minor 3D and FM fixes, but also the addition of the F Mk 21 variant.
For those with keen eyes, you might notice that the skin templates are not correct. Please be our guest and feel free to create one for them :)
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woww, a 21 as well!
thank you very very much, one of my favourite Spitfires is flyable now;
for some strange reasons, I like the razorback Griffon Spits more than their bubbletop canopy brethren...
will be fun to fly around the UK in those high powered brutes :D
cheers
phil
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It's finally working here, thank you very much! :D
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thank you very...very...very much! That would Supermarine SPITEFUL have for diversity. ;-)
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Thanks for the update !
Now these aircrafts work in HSFX 7 without exploding !
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Excellent work, definately among the best spits in the game. Only one criticism, the rolling performance of the late spits with the new wing was vastly superior to previous spits at higher speeds. Your flight models don't really reflect this.
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Show me evidence that the rolling speed was vastly superior and we'll gladly make these changes. Also is that compared to the standard C/E type wing or the clipped versions? The two main changes to this wings were to increase their strength as well as their critical mach number which would allow for increased stability at higher speeds. You do also have to be aware that the incredible torque effect of the Griffon with this size of prop means roll rate towards the moment is quite poor.
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Great job to all involved! 8)
note:
roll rate chart from wwiiaircraftperformance.org
(http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/wade-roll.jpg)
which give the mk 21 high marks on roll rate.
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The offical test at Boscombe down stated that compared to the spitfire XIV, "At speeds below 300mph indicated there is little to choose between the two aircraft, but above this speed the spitfire 21 becomes increasingly superior due to its lighter ailerons". Also stated "Aileron control is light and positive at all heights and at all speeds upto 350mph indicated. Above this speed the ailerons tend to stiffen, the deteriation being more rapid above 400mph indicated, but never the less they are the best yet encounterd on any mark of spitfire".
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The updated version works fine for me now, no 60% crash thank you very much Well Done Chaps
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Beautiful model,thank you very much. If I could draw your attention to the side door opening from inside(interior texture stays in position) and from outside interior texture missing.(unless its a conflict I am unaware of) Also could you add the external rear view mirror as its quite a prominent feature. Once again superb work.
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I download againfor the update version, thanks for the pretty work, spit is my favorite plane in the game , but there are something bother me that why the F.24 is slow than other later fighters eg. bf09 and fw190s .
Even in the high altitude (already set the supercharger key and when I push it nothing happend ,no message print), and even if autopilot is used ,the spit still be catched with others. I'm confused to the best plane's performence. Anyone can help me how to make it perform it's real strength?
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If I could draw your attention to the side door opening from inside(interior texture stays in position) and from outside interior texture missing.(unless its a conflict I am unaware of) Also could you add the external rear view mirror as its quite a prominent feature.
Thanks for the kind words.
The problem with the side door seems to be due to a conflict we're unaware of. You should be checking the log file in order to see if there's any line referring to a possible culprit.
Regarding the external rear view mirror, are you talking about the Mk 21? If so, it's already there. If you're talking about the F. 22 and 24, i've never seen such a feature on a single Spitfire of those late marks. Can you provide pics?
but there are something bother me that why the F.24 is slow than other later fighters eg. bf09 and fw190s .
Even in the high altitude (already set the supercharger key and when I push it nothing happend ,no message print), and even if autopilot is used ,the spit still be catched with others. I'm confused to the best plane's performence. Anyone can help me how to make it perform it's real strength?
Actually, for what i've been able to test them, they're performing really close to their real counterparts regarding their top speeds.
As stated previously, the 22 and 24 were interceptors that gave their best at altitude, not on the deck.
The F. 24 is the best plane for what...exactly? Best looking plane? Fastest? Loudest?
Don't go with such statements, please. I could say the Re.2005 was the best plane, but still, this wouldn't be backed by facts. :-\
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Sorry, you are right of course no rear view mirrors fitted to Mk22/24. Because it shows on the internal cockpit view I assumed it would have one externally but I guess you are using an existing cockpit.
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you can always disable the in-cockpit mirror if it bothers you ;)
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Also depending on your source, some say that the Bf-109K-4 in level flight was faster than a fully-loaded Spitfire.
Anyway if you do a speed test, you will find the Spitfire is faster in game however in combat it might not appear apparent.
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Any chance on on giving these beauties the increased roll rate that the new wing with 5% larger metal covered ailerons aforded them?
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I have managed to find the tactical trial of the Spitfire 21, in which it states that rolling performace was improved compared to earlier spitfires. It also says that the outboard and inboard cannons could be fired independently of each other. Quote "The cannon are fired pneumatically by means of a selective push button on the control column spade grip. Pressing the top of the button fires the inboard cannon, pressing the bottom fires the outboard cannon, and all four cannon are fired simultaniously if the centre button is pressed.
If you want to read the Trial type "Spitfire 21 trial" into google, then click on the link headed "The Story of the Spitfire. An Operational and Combat History". Its at books.google.co.uk/books :)
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There is a chance, but we do have real lives outside of Il-2 and currently none of us are free to fix this. We got the message, we thank you for the evidence, now off our case.
So please be patient, cheers
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Sorry M8 I get a little obsessed sometimes. Keep up the good work ;D
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Small critique in regards to the aircraft's 3d model. The nose seems a bit stubby in comparison to the real aircraft and the prop shaft also seems a bit rotund. Also of note is that the prop blades are angled the wrong way. Is there a way for me to fix this myself without butchering it, for example somehow welding GJE 52's FR XIV nose to it, via the .hier?
Otherwise the rest of the model is near spot on.
(http://www.focalplanes.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/62_07-Nose-of-Spitfire-Mk24-PK683-S1173A.jpg)
(http://www.focalplanes.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/62_07-Spitfire-Mk24-PK683-side-view-S1172A.jpg)
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Wonderful planes! :P Can we hope in a 4.09 conversion? Thank you!
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...better late than never!
The Mk.22 runs wonderful in my 4.10 & DBW!
Thank you.
Best regards, Gerhard :)
(http://www11.pic-upload.de/28.08.15/k3rr2p9oyh7z.jpg)
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An observation on the Mk.22 which is primarily the only one of these i fly. I was defeated by a pesky Buchon, and upon the elevator controls being severed, followed immediately by catastrophic air-frame failure, the canopy unlocked and rolled back on its own! I imagine this is a feature to increase survive-ability in emergencies. Is this a feature of the real aircraft? Simple curiosity.
Thanks! Still one of my favorite Spits next to the Mk.I/IIs
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I had a similar event happen to me. In fact my pilot automatically bails out if I take heavy damage. It's a little annoying actually.