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Title: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on May 17, 2019, 09:34:42 AM

Dear all,

Please use this overview of possible ways to install Ultrapack to your IL-2 1946 game:

Your game Version ==>>	Ultrapack 3.3 Patch 9	Ultrapack 3 RC4 or DBW 1.71	Any other IL-2 game Version
Easy Method	Install Ultrapack 3.4 "Cassie" Update for Ultrapack 3.3	Install Ultrapack 3.4 "Cassie" Update for Ultrapack 3 and DBW	Install The Ultrapack 3.4 "Cassie" Superpack
Manual Method	Install Ultrapack 3.4 "Cassie" Update for Ultrapack 3.3	Install Ultrapack 3.4 "Cassie" Update for Ultrapack 3 and DBW	1.) Take your game to Version 4.10.1 2.) Install Ultrapack 3 RC 3.) Install Ultrapack 3 RC4 Patch 4.) Install Ultrapack 3.4

After installing Ultrapack 3.4 you need to install the latest Patch Pack (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,67406.msg756259.html#msg756259) (if available) and Hotfix (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,67406.msg1.html#lastPost) (if available).

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: bomberkiller on May 17, 2019, 10:10:03 AM

Quote

Reinstall IL-2 from Scratch.
Patch 4.14 messed up your
game beyond all repair.

Pince schei**e.

4.14.x = 

(https://i.ibb.co/b1cSpMf/Achtung-Aetzend-bk.jpg) 

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on May 17, 2019, 10:12:53 AM

4.14 is Malware, plain simple Malware, deleting your files (whether they are related to IL-2 or not) and turning existing working game files into proprietary, 4.14-only crap.
If this was something a real world company would sell, they'd get sued to death.
The only valid advice to any IL-2 player is to keep safe distance from TD's 4.14 mod.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: bomberkiller on May 17, 2019, 10:18:41 AM

Oh yes! 4.14...:

(https://i.ibb.co/2KLcD12/WRONG-WAY-one-bk.png)

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: UberDemon on November 22, 2020, 01:01:59 PM

Mike,

As they say, there is no such a thing as a dumb question...  there are only dumb people.  I fall in the dumb people category.  So I have read this several times... It has been a long time since I played in UP.

I figure it cannot co-exist with BAT (as in the same installation), which is cool.  My question is, can I install 3.3 Bigfoot on top of the megapatch?

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on November 22, 2020, 10:47:22 PM

Quote from: UberDemon on November 22, 2020, 01:01:59 PM

I figure it cannot co-exist with BAT (as in the same installation), which is cool.

Due to different files.sfs that's true, at least for the time being.
Maybe one day the Selector will feature a coexistence but that's TBD.

Quote from: UberDemon on November 22, 2020, 01:01:59 PM

My question is, can I install 3.3 Bigfoot on top of the megapatch?

Yes of course.
1st post has been updated accordingly.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: throttle_control on January 07, 2021, 04:25:26 AM

 I installed everything successfully. from 4.12m steam.ultra pack 3. bigfoot 3.3. and patch 8. jsgme will only allow me to activate patch 8. The IL2 game launches but it won't let me scroll zoom when making missions. I can't set the screen resolution to anything but the default 640x480x32. I have a 30 inch 1920x1080 monitor. Very frustrating. I enabled the wide view mod that came with.. But still I can't set resolution. I joined MP but I can't select home base.

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on January 07, 2021, 05:16:05 AM

Don't use the wide view mod.
As stated in the patch 8 notes, Patch 8 is wide screen per default.
Set your screen resolution manually in conf.ini.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: throttle_control on January 07, 2021, 10:14:57 AM

 I found the problem in the config file. By default size was set to = 1 and I changed it to = 0 and it kept my resolution instead of defaulting it every time to 640x480...

 This is the error message I get when trying to play some missions. Not all but about 2 out of the 4 missions I've played in MP. That's a lot of error messages.
(https://i.postimg.cc/76gf5FZh/sas-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/yxjxP09z/sas-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHyR7DPT)


 I don't have wide view mod enabled. In game I get mod selector version 3.5.0 and server states it's mod selector is 3.5.2 could this be the problem?

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on January 08, 2021, 12:19:13 AM

Depending on the mission layout and your computer's specs, it can take a while until all available resources on the mission's airfield have been initialized.
Slow computers on complex missions may take 5 minutes, where fast PCs with SSDs are ready within a couple of seconds.
YMMV.
When the message "Selected Home Base has no aircraft available at the moment." comes up after the missions has just started or you have just joined the server, be patient for a while and try again.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: throttle_control on January 08, 2021, 12:04:15 PM

 No that's wrong I have a fast cpu and ssd's. You might be closer to the mark had you typed that it hadn't finished uploading to the client from the server end.. But then the question would be why do I see load complete and the brief screen. I did a search on these forums and found the same problem popping up over and over again.

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Ghost129er on January 08, 2021, 09:20:57 PM

But y u no accept old game and its flaws..?

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on January 09, 2021, 12:58:06 AM

throttle_control, let me give you a broad hint:
You might want to change your attitude a bit if you want other to help you.
What you wrote so far has a touch of outright complaints, mixed with accusations and some level of "gimme" attitude.
That will get you just so far in the long run.
A bit more friendly in your approach, mixed with a "thank you" if someone took the time to look for your issues will prove much more successful, trust me.

And to answer your question about mission loading behaviour: That's what it was like for two decades now. It's unlikely to change and millions of users got used to it.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Ghost129er on January 09, 2021, 03:35:06 AM

Ping >1000

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on January 09, 2021, 09:30:44 AM

Quote from: [FAC]Ghost129er on January 09, 2021, 03:35:06 AM

Ping >1000

???  ]dontknow[

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Ghost129er on January 09, 2021, 09:38:02 AM

Thinking out loud, you can have the best PC but if your bandwidth at home is being hogged, welp, that's also another reason for base not confirming on time, right?

Probably derailing the UP3 guide, so delete if needed.

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on January 09, 2021, 10:22:01 AM

Oh okay, got it.
Never mind re derailing a thread, IMHO anyone joining the UP3 band wagon at this time should be of senior player level sufficiently to wade his way through  8)

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: throttle_control on January 10, 2021, 08:27:02 PM

 I think I found the problem. I'm posting this for all who might benefit from it.


  Now this is very strange behavior. I connect to the server and can't click on home base without it giving me the message blah blah u can't select this. So I went and ignored everyone who pm'd with helpful comments and used hyperlobby to connect to server (thank you for your helpful comments if anyone who helped reads this). This worked for a while. Even the missions I couldn't play before. But... Here's the strange part hyperlobby disconnected me from it's servers and I was no longer able to change my home base or fly at all. Then i clicked to desktop and checked hyper lobby... It reconnected and i was able to click on the home base again.. So if I had started off with hyper lobby this would explain it all. Yet I didn't. I didn't time how often hyper lobby disconnects but it happens enough to interrupt game play. Thing is I reinstalled the steam version  up to the latest update and I wasn't disconnected at all from hyper lobby and I flew 2 different servers running 4. blah blah steam version. Yesterday the server ping was in the green, now it's in the red.

I remember when this game came out and I remember when a certain someone cracked the source code. And the only way to play with mods was to use a pirated version of the game. It was still possible to play the game with modded skins but not new planes. And said company is no longer in business, not because of lost revenue from this site I take it? It's almost funny they kept releasing patch after patch to combat the crack source code, and keep "pirated" players from going online and playing MP for free. Thank you modders for making my purchased version modifiable. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

 Please excuse me. I am sorry "SAS~Storebror" that I offended you. You were doing what any tech at any company would do. Give a general reply without reading what I typed out. In other words you don't have a clue what the problem is so you give a reply out of the kindness of your heart. So instead of typing nothing, which you is up to you of course. But the information you gave me is not useful. I suppose you can take this as a personal attack or I'd rather you take it as I typed it. I can ask for tech support from a host of software companies and they will ask me. Did you check your power cord? Are you running windows. Yes. yes. Your not answering my question! Your not reading my responses your just skimming! No I am trying to help you. That's not called for. Now are you running windows. Yes!  ]banghead[


 I did follow your advice. I waited 5 minutes. Nothing. I waited 20 minutes. Nothing.

  I have a dual core cpu running at 3.4 ghz. 7 gb of 1600 mhz ram. 2 solid state drives sata 3. And I'm on fiber optic internet. Yes it's fast. When I unzipped/unrared the file set there were no errors. So I must conclude that it's not on my end. So either it's the code or the server.

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on January 10, 2021, 11:27:49 PM

Now that we're running the server 24/7 and you're the only with said issues, I think we can rule that out.
And since we've got a whole squad using the same code like you do, we can basically rule that out as well.
Unless there's something different in your case, which we can rule out best if you could show us the logfile content after you experience said "Selected Home Base has no aircraft available at the moment." issue.

See here how to get the logfile content and how to post it:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13457.0.html

Skip the "Only for 4.10 Users (...)" part please, you don't need that with latest Ultrapack versions.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: throttle_control on January 21, 2021, 04:48:04 PM

 I went back to reinstalling everything. But I noticed that the directions on how to install are contradictory. In the video it shows patch 3.3 patch 8 enabled and not the 3.3 patch. I did this and the selector is titled as 3.5.0 and some missions I can play in multiplayer and some I can't. But down the post it says to enable 3.3 and then the 3.3 patch 8 patch as well. Now the game loads to 60% and crashes so now I can't play at all.

 Edit: I've added two screenshots to add to my confusion.
(https://i.postimg.cc/G3PxCtFQ/il2-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yj9WNpyG)

(https://i.postimg.cc/9FJPDkNw/il2-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tYnnfBb9)


 As you can see (anyone) when both the 3.3 patch and the 3.3 8 patch are enabled I get the selector 3.5.2 (but it says patch 0) and when I have only patch 8 enabled then I get selector 3.5.0 ??

p.s Was I supposed to on a clean installation of the community patch 4.12 install 3 and 3.3 and 3.3 patch 8 to directory. Then enable through Jsgme 3... Then disable it? :P then enable 3.3 then disable it as well? :P then enable patch 8 and run game? 

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: macgiver on January 21, 2021, 09:47:59 PM

@ throttle_control

After reading all your posts on this forum and your participation in the server's chat I have come to the following conclusions:
-you are one of those who consider that the main defect of the universe is that it does not turn around you
-you are a bit of a problematic and confrontational person
-it seems that your mother (or someone else) has told you so many times that you are unique, wonderful and special that you have started to believe it

During the last two hours I have been testing new installations of UP_3.3 according to existing instructions on this forum. I have done four in total on both 4.10.1 and 4.12.2m, in none of them I haven't found any problems (except for the requirement to activate Nvidia_Screenmode with patch 8, but I don't think you can call this a problem). I have connected to the server without any problems both directly and via Hyperlobby with all four installations. I would like to know what is your way of installation (no doubt incorrect), because I noticed that in your Generic Mod Enabler, where #UP#_Enable_UP3.3 doesn't change to #UP#_Enable_UP3.3###_OLD_DONT_ACTIVATE_### after installing patch 8 as it has done in all my installations. It might be a good idea to read the installation instructions carefully and try to install everything correctly. And in case of any doubts or problems, ask for explanations or help in a courteous and COHERENT way. Your "But I noticed that the directions on how to install are contradictory." shows that you do not read things carefully and completely (if I am wrong, I would be delighted if you could show me these contradictions).

I also see that you have Widescreen Support enabled...

As for the Home Base problem, as I have had it a few times I can assure you that it is not a problem of bad installation or malfunctioning of the server, it is easily solved as Storebror has answered, with patience. In my case sometimes connection problems were the reason (the fact that you have fibre does not guarantee anything, on highways there are also clogs at 20km/h).

I'm curious, where did you get this story about "remember when this game came out and I remember when a certain someone cracked the source code...."? sounds great, have you seen it on Netflix?

I'm not going to continue, because it's not worth it, I can only tell you that if I were a moderator, you wouldn't be here anymore...

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on January 21, 2021, 10:34:43 PM

Quote from: macgiver on January 21, 2021, 09:47:59 PM

I noticed that in your Generic Mod Enabler, where #UP#_Enable_UP3.3 doesn't change to #UP#_Enable_UP3.3###_OLD_DONT_ACTIVATE_### after installing patch 8 as it has done in all my installations.

And that's the core issue (besides activating Widescreen Support, which you must not do anymore).
At the end of Patch 8 installation process, a script is run automatically by the installer which copies files across from UP3.3 (unpatched) the the Patch 8 JSGME folder.

@ throttle_control:
The reason your Selector is outdated is because the script has never been run on your system.
The reason #UP#_Enable_UP3.3 didn't change to #UP#_Enable_UP3.3###_OLD_DONT_ACTIVATE_### is because the script has never been run on your system.
The reason you see all these issues is because the script has never been run on your system, as this leaves your game with several gigabytes of files missing.

Wild guess: You're one of the clever guys who think it's a better idea not to run an installer as-is but to use custom "tools" (7zip, winrar) to unpack it manually?

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: throttle_control on January 21, 2021, 11:11:54 PM

Quote from: SAS~Storebror on January 21, 2021, 10:34:43 PM

Quote from: macgiver on January 21, 2021, 09:47:59 PM

I noticed that in your Generic Mod Enabler, where #UP#_Enable_UP3.3 doesn't change to #UP#_Enable_UP3.3###_OLD_DONT_ACTIVATE_### after installing patch 8 as it has done in all my installations.

And that's the core issue (besides activating Widescreen Support, which you must not do anymore).
At the end of Patch 8 installation process, a script is run automatically by the installer which copies files across from UP3.3 (unpatched) the the Patch 8 JSGME folder.

@ throttle_control:
The reason your Selector is outdated is because the script has never been run on your system.
The reason #UP#_Enable_UP3.3 didn't change to #UP#_Enable_UP3.3###_OLD_DONT_ACTIVATE_### is because the script has never been run on your system.
The reason you see all these issues is because the script has never been run on your system, as this leaves your game with several gigabytes of files missing.

Wild guess: You're one of the clever guys who think it's a better idea not to run an installer as-is but to use custom "tools" (7zip, winrar) to unpack it manually?

]cheers[
Mike

 Yes your right. I did unpack it that way. Seeing as I have 7zip/winrar and most lol... Only need to use an installer if they don't have winrar. haha. great. that's embarrassing and a bit surprising. I usually skip and unzip as a matter of habit to avoid running scripts that might run viruses. Not that I'd think someone would post a virus here. Finally I can play all missions on the server. Thank you macgiver??? Thank you Storebror for clearing that up.


 @ Mac giver... Your telling me my questions are incoherent. Everyone problem solves in a different way. Your not the same Macgiver that plays on the multiplayer server are you?


(https://i.postimg.cc/4xZ2pfq3/Macgiver1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
You haven't played on the server since January 2016? :P

(https://i.postimg.cc/VNvRFdRz/Capture2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on January 21, 2021, 11:23:53 PM

Quote from: throttle_control on January 21, 2021, 11:11:54 PM

Mac giver... Your telling me my questions are incoherent. Everyone problem solves in a different way.

maygiver identified the core mistake you've made.
All credit goes to him.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: macgiver on January 22, 2021, 02:46:53 AM

As for my server usage, no, I don't fly as Macgiver, but tonight when I logged on (nota bene in the same time as you have been on the server - "Creta") to test installations, I did it with the default pilot ("Mad"- because vanilla install without any config). I have only chosen aircraft and spawned in mission without starting engine. This is why you won't find me on statspage info.

Quote from: throttle_control on January 21, 2021, 11:11:54 PM

@ Mac giver... Your telling me my questions are incoherent. Everyone problem solves in a different way.

this is already incoherent supposing that two sentences are about the same thing...
And I would call your questions as pretensions and reproaches, what is incoherent is your description of problems and absurd mixture of all addressing in theory only one subject...

Quote from: throttle_control on January 21, 2021, 11:11:54 PM

Thank you macgiver???

Do not thank me, because I have not written it with the intention of helping you, but to argue my reproaches (assuming that they are thanks, because the three question marks do not indicate this).

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: FNRennier on September 28, 2021, 12:27:42 PM

Hi!  the mouse scroll doesn't work to zoom in the full mission builder?

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Ghost129er on September 28, 2021, 12:35:19 PM

Quote from: FNRennier on September 28, 2021, 12:27:42 PM

Hi!  the mouse scroll doesn't work to zoom in the full mission builder?

Never did unless you customized the controls for it..?

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: FNRennier on September 28, 2021, 02:35:21 PM

I did not do.  I would like to know if the UP3 has this feature

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: FNRennier on September 28, 2021, 02:42:46 PM

is there any way to do this? ;D

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on September 28, 2021, 11:47:28 PM

Maybe in future updates, but right now: Nope.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: FNRennier on September 29, 2021, 04:50:13 AM

I understand.  thanks for the reply, Mike!

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on November 23, 2021, 12:12:16 AM

1st post updated for Ultrapack 3.4 "Cassie".

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: bigans on January 22, 2023, 09:00:16 AM

Can I download ultrapack Cassie Superpack over IL 2 4.12.2? Thx

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on January 22, 2023, 11:27:36 AM

Yep.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on February 08, 2023, 12:11:35 PM

Hi!

I have installed it over my older HSFX7.0 installation....all seem working flawless....but installed give me this error:

Cannot create bin\selector\il2fb.exe

Any clue?

Maybe I have to update to last Selector?

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on February 09, 2023, 12:57:06 AM

Sounds like you've had the Selector opened up while installing Ultrapack.
If the installation proceeded despite the error, then all you need to do is to install the latest Hotfix (13 at the time of writing this) on top.
If the installation stopped at the error, then repeat that installation step that failed and proceed further once it works.
If it keeps stopping with the same error, check whether you can remove the file "bin\selector\il2fb.exe" manually and try again.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on February 09, 2023, 10:41:06 AM

Got it solved by updating the selector to last version....my il2fb.exe now is version 5.2.1.0....

Can I add UP pointing the installer directly to my BAT main folder without be afraid of possible interference with it or is better to keep it in a different installation?

I know that is stated in the posts that I can do it...but I'm too donkey to proceed without asking directly.....

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: Frankiek on February 09, 2023, 06:45:59 PM

Don't mix UP and BAT keep them separate as they are not compatible. You will have a Franken install. The best is to point it to a fresh 4.10 or 4.12 install

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on February 09, 2023, 11:21:48 PM

Like Frankiek says, the best practice is to keep IL-2 game versions separated.
While they technically can live together in one single folder, there are some dependencies which aren't all that obvious.
For instance, installing BAT 4.2.2 HF4 and then Ultrapack 3.4 P2 HF13 will work, but you will face issues if you do it vice versa.
Installing any further patches of either of these on top will arbitrarily wipe contents from the shared JSGME folder and will disable JSGME mods from both games.
Future versions always see either BAT or UP3 slightly ahead of each other in certain technological aspects (most notably the Selector) which might yield further issues.

If you wish to save some precious HDD space, go the Symbolic Links (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,62718.0/topicseen.html) route.
Apart from Skin folders, you can as well share records, screenshots and common (same size) SFS files.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: GPatricks on May 28, 2023, 07:30:53 AM

Dumb question likely but searching is not getting me anywhere.. I have Steam 1946 4.12.2 installed, is it really necessary to revert it back to the 4.10.1 (Page 1 of this thread) required for Ultrapak? It seems to have installed fine, along with the Patch 2 and Hotfix..

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: Frankiek on May 28, 2023, 01:49:00 PM

If you use the 3.4 "Cassie" superpack (and following updates) you can install on top of 4.12.2

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: GPatricks on July 13, 2023, 04:15:18 AM

Likely answered before but I couldn't find it, so apologies if its somewhere obvious. Right now 1946 is on Sale on Steam and GoG for €2,49. A friend is buying it on GoG and I believe the version is 4.13. On Steam I simply changed to the 4.12 in beta, for a standalone GoG version do you install the "4.12 megaPatch" found here (https://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=4469) or is there a preferred method to downgrade (assuming UP 3.4 needs 4.12?). Thanks for any guidance!

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on July 13, 2023, 04:19:31 AM

The Installation Options are described right in the opening post of this thread: https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,61481.0.html
You are in the "Any other IL-2 game Version" column.
I'd recommend installing the Superpack.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: GPatricks on July 13, 2023, 05:50:05 AM

Thank you Mike. I did see the options but what is not clear (to me) for the 4.13 GoG version of 1946, can you just install the 3.4 Cassie Superpak\Patch 2\Hotfix 19 right over this 4.13 version or do you need to (as I did with Steam, going to 4.12.2 beta) downgrade to 4.12.2? Or maybe I did not even have to go to the Steam beta for Cassie? I have no issues with my Steam version, just want to help a friend buying on GoG..

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on July 13, 2023, 06:18:50 AM

You can install the Superpack right on top of any working IL-2 version.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: GPatricks on July 13, 2023, 06:36:54 AM

Quote from: SAS~Storebror on July 13, 2023, 06:18:50 AM

You can install the Superpack right on top of any working IL-2 version.

]cheers[
Mike

Thank you Mike, last question, Does Cassie 3.4 Superpak change the 1946 version to 4.12? I ask because we may try and connect online and I assume we need the same 1946 version to do so?

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on July 13, 2023, 08:28:32 AM

The network-reported version (net stream compatibility) is 4.10.1.
The game version itself is very different, we've got elements from all existing game versions in Ultrapack and much more, which is why we call the base game version 4.60 here.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: GPatricks on July 13, 2023, 08:31:13 AM

Just noticed that going in.. so for network play all versions of the base game should be 4.10.x or does Cassie make the whole version thing a non-issue?

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on July 13, 2023, 11:00:35 AM

Cassie will cope well with 4.10.1 and any Ultrapack 3.x version that ever existed.
It will not work online with anything else as the net protocol changed after 4.10.1 and in contrast to the Ultrapack devs, TD never cared for cross-version compatibility issues.

]cheers[
Mike

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: GPatricks on July 14, 2023, 12:43:57 AM

Quote from: SAS~Storebror on July 13, 2023, 11:00:35 AM

Cassie will cope well with 4.10.1 and any Ultrapack 3.x version that ever existed.
It will not work online with anything else as the net protocol changed after 4.10.1 and in contrast to the Ultrapack devs, TD never cared for cross-version compatibility issues.

]cheers[
Mike

Ok, so what I get from this is, IF you want to fly online you (and everyone that wants to join) need to downgrade to version 4.10.1, then install Cassie 3.4\Patch2\HF19...

Title: Re: Installing Ultrapack
Post by: SAS~Storebror on July 14, 2023, 03:16:37 AM

Eh... no ;)
If you want to fly online, you should be as compatible to each other as possible.
That means: If you want to fly online with other Stock Game Users, use the same stock version like they do.
And if you want to use Cassie's features, it's highly recommended that all users use Cassie.
In General terms, IL-2 always used to be incompatible between different game versions or modpacks.

Ultrapack 3.x is the big exception to this rule: We retain as much backward compatibility as possible.
We achieved this by keeping the network protocol fully compatible with Stock 4.10.1.
"Fully Compatible" means: If a Stock 4.10.1 Player plays with a Cassie player, everything's fine as long as they stick to Stock Content.
In general, all content (objects, maps, airplanes, whatever) need to be limited to the smallest, most common intersection of content being available to all players.
Example:
Stock 4.10.1, Ultrapack 3 RC4 and Cassie Player together: Content needs to be Stock 4.10.1 only.
Ultrapack 3 RC4 and Cassie Player: Content needs to be Ultrapack 3 RC4 only.
Cassie unpatched and Cassie Patch 2 Player: Content needs to be Cassie unpatched only.
Cassie Patch 2 w/o Hotfix and Hotfix 19 Player: Content needs to be Cassie Patch 2 only.
You get the gist.

That being said, whichever game version you're coming from, once you install the Cassie Superpack, you get a full blown Cassie which fulfills the above mentioned criteria.
No need to patch your game up or down in advance.

]cheers[
Mike